@ Tom Chiverton
Yes - I wondered this too. It's a scandal ! "I think we should be told".
159 posts • joined 4 Jul 2009
@ Tom Chiverton
Yes - I wondered this too. It's a scandal ! "I think we should be told".
Fair enough but from the manufactures perspective they then have all the problems dealing with warranty claims for a "feature" they do not support plus the bad press associated with it.
I cannot see the problem - they found an issue and fixed it.
I suppose that if they ever claimed "Over-clockable" and then withdrew it that would be cause for complaint.
Anyway - why don't people just revert to the previous driver ?
Proof indeed. Clearly they did not parse the recent Register Website Redesign thread.
This is so stupid it is not even worth commenting on.
Blame Canada !
How did you resist peeling those stickers off the keyboard panel?
So, if it's translating the language you are speaking into one you cannot speak - say Mandarin - how would you know Google was not putting ads in?
I have to ask how you might know this?
It might be true to say the el Reg has lost control of the story re the new design which in turn leads to many negative posts.
All this righteous hoo-ha would probably be diminished and cooled by a proper statement of intent.
I don't think anyone is saying do not attempt a redesign. My reading of posts here is that people simply want a design that is fit for purpose.
Many sites would kill for this level of "engagement" A statement of intent could turn most of us around.
BTW: I do think it is a bit unfair to vote down Drewc and others who are actually trying to provide some explanations even though they may not be directly responsible. DrewC was the one who pulled the trigger on Eadon - that's got to count for something.
News just in: The workings of cartel comprising nearly all the major IT related companies has been exposed. Its aim was to claw back the many millions of hours spent reading The Register instead of working.
Allegedly; large sums of money and other inducements such as alcohol and bacon was offered and speedily accepted by the Registers management. A spokesman for one of the cartels members claimed "they bit our hands off".
An unknown source told us that a young team of inexperienced website designers was given a brief to upset as many of the core readership as possible with a new plausible but awful website makeover.
Sources also say that senior Register management are drinking their favourite solvents and patting themselves on the back at their choice of design team. "They are naturals at this bullocks" said one.
Meanwhile hundreds of commentards, mostly waving flaming pitchforks and many with murderous intent, are gathering vociferously at the Register Forum. Collaborators are quickly voted down without mercy.
This could get ugly" an industry insider told us. "Of all the groups of people a technical website should not upset is a group of intelligent know-it-alls that contains many apprentice and fully fledged BOFHs. Just imagine how they will react when they work out that they have been BOFHed by journalists?".
"There are enormous white margins down each side. Why? Too hard to resize the new layout to fit the screen?"
I think you will find that most sites have a fixed maximum width.
A key reason for Not letting content flow to your monitor (and wider sizes) is that text then becomes spread out in panoramic and hard to read lines.
I don't think we will get a poll although I bet an ad-hoc one has been made internally from all the reasoned and well balanced posts on these high traffic pages.
A poll would make you look weak and tacitly acknowledge that the new changes were not fully considered.
I fully understand the need to update 6 year old design html (although I suspect it got incremental tweaks over this time) and also to move towards a better basis for a full review / redesign.
I do think you missed a trick by not going "Responsive" with this new design.
The new page code looks rather good but I think many of us would have reacted less stridently to a responsive design, which itself imposes a rather strict set of design limitations so, could take lots of the blame.
One poster said he could do responsive in 5 minutes but seriously, it would not be more than a weeks work (from someone who has done quite few "upgrades to responsive" on sites way more complex than this one).
Back in the day . . I was a freelance recording engineer and worked to a mantra of "Give It What It Needs" and have carried this over into my new life as a webdev where it is also usefully valid.
IMO: The new site does things the designers knew how to do and knew would look "modern & open". It does not really suit the needs of the often excellent articles we all come here for. Like a badly mixed single it works but is is not "right".
Perhaps there is an element of "Biting The Hand That Feeds You" - your collective nature makes you do it?
!important; There have been some very valid use cases presented around sight impairment and also the Disability and Discrimination act which I hope you will act on responsibly. So few sites make any effort.
Those poor designers? I was thinking of how I would feel if a site of mine got this sort of response and my name was linked. Personally I would be horrified but maybe in bong terms these designers have successfully engaged with their end users and elicited strong opinions (traffic) so its a win?
In our office sweepstake I have 16 as the number of pages that this thread will run to and 190 up-votes for the estimable and erudite J R Hartly - keep these comments coming.
Any chance of a webcast from your next design meeting?
Who would want to showcase this?
Looks much better
"That went quite well I thought"
A complete lack of scale and proportion with badly implemented typography.
The people responsible are actually happy to be mentioned in the article!!. (they do seem like false names though). Did you actually pay real money to get this done.
First BOFH on a Saturday. Now this.
Serious Point: The light grey Visited class is not helpful to anyone with and visual impairment.
Umm . . .
Not to be picky but . . A "Gig" is something done by musicians - it is a one off event. You go, you play and then you leave.
In the context of a work article it would be better but still rather awkward to call it a "tour".
Friday is BOFH day - does tradition mean nothing to you?
A new BOFH is an essential training document - it should always be read in the context of a work environment and so paid for by the employer.
Yes I know people work day 6 and 7 but still . .
Lucky Us I guess.
I have to say that my experiences with BT recently have been very good. You find out a lot about a service when there is a problem as I have had recently with my lovely fast FTTC connection dropping out.
Took 5 engineer visits to pin it down but each time the fault was reported again they were out to me with 2 days. (Now on my third set of ports.) Told "they go down all time".
Having to work though an intermittent issue via a third party could be a nightmare. (Yes I know Open reach are a third party but you get my point.)
Praising BT does feel wrong somehow but who else for 20MBs uploads - Virgin?
(Behind your back)
SMBC has a good take on this subject.
(SMBC is a wonderful displacement activity site for Mondays)
If, you can carry a lot of energy such as nuclear and, you have all the tech to go to Mars is it such a jump to suggest that we might also be able to create our own portable magnetic field? Might be useful against micro-meteorites too
Maybe it's to do with reproductive organs? Maybe women's get damaged more easily then men's.
Governments have traditionally been quite good at supplying the Soma to keep us masses from protesting too much.
Well yes but, the article may have had more substance so I read it and decided I did not care and then made the mistake of saying so.
Fair point but how could I know if I don't care if I don't read the article? Having done so my post seems logical although really I just wanted to be the first.
To quote, from memory, a Ms Bee riposte - "You would need very sophisticated measuring equipment to gauge how much I do not care".
Well that's just lazy journalism.
Many journalists do seem quite lazy nowadays - Register hacks excepted of course.
If you take psychoacoustics out of the equation, assume monitor quality speakers EQ'ed to flat then the question simply becomes how analytical and trained your ears are.
I don't think this is something that can be taught quickly or "the difference" defined in any meaningful way
Many posters in this thread seem to think that all MS OS's crash frequently - they do not.
They also do not get bricked by OS updates plus we have patch Tuesday so our vulnerabilities get sorted out honestly and quickly (much less time than 25 years).
Also, if you had a long history and connection with a software company, would you not want other companies in your control to use said products?
Oh and by the way - @ JBfromOZ - both my win 8 tablets boot in under 30 secs from cold. On what planet do you think it takes 3 hours or is that a special Unix way of counting time.
@ Glenn6 "He may own the team, but that doesn't give him the right to tell people which brands they personally use" - the article said that he wanted MS products used by the team and its organisation - cannot see here it say anything about personal use.
Down votes - I've heard of them.
So, by definition, people who invest in Twitter are Twits?
There is already civil law about obstructing the highway that would bring these campers a next day appearance at Marlborough St Magistrates court and a fine.
If you set up a street trader rack on Regent St you would soon get police attention. If they are sponsored they are effectively trading.
Not that I want apple users locked up you understand . . .
Also: Anyone who uses the word "cool" is probably not.
Oh I don't know - there is quite a lot of software I trust much more than I do most humans.
I would imagine that the difference in mean times between failures was much better for complex software based systems than it is for humans.
What would you trust to land an aircraft in very bad and foggy weather - the 55 year old human or the automated landing systems ?
All that said, I bet the lawyers are drooling in anticipation of all the legislature that will need to be codified and all the cases coming out of accidents and "unforeseen" circumstances.
I don't think Eadon ever really left. He went back down into his burrow/lair and became anonymous.
Bring your own straw.
Are you here all week?
OK - you got me - Why did you need to borrow a cat?
I understand Mr Bransfield uses cats to gain the interest of ordinary people (lamers) but you only have to walk down any road here in the UK to see how many WAP and unsecured networks exist.
He might gain more publicity if he dressed himself up as a cat and walked around with a network detector of some sort.
He could then tell people that the cats (who now own 15% of the internet) are worried about security, have made him an honorary cat, and are conducting an experiment. Later that day he might also have an insight into the weak network security at psychiatric hospitals.
Only a matter of time before a Canadian BOFH and his trusty PFY pick up this poor robot and weaponise it.
I do not think Firebug is compatible with 29+
Re memory. Good to know my favorite virtual memory stress test tool still works in this new version.
A w(e)b.config file with only 30 lines - how on earth can it work?