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The BBC didn't plan Youview to become a competitor to Sky in paid-tv. They feared, in a fragmented landscape, BSkyB could use their install base and financial clout, to become the defacto standard for IPTV in the UK.
Until a few years ago, Joe Bloggs seemed to believe that you had to pay BSkyB to receive Satellite. You didn't, but people would still buy a subscription to watch the free channels. Or you would have to buy a sub to get access to a decent PVR with 7 day EPG. It took the BBC & Co launching freesat to finally fix the issue.
I believe Youview was born out of the same mindset, but rather than trying to fix a broken ecosystem, make the right one from the start. That BT and TalkTalk have been able to use Youview so successfully is a consequence of the fact they got it right in making the platform workable for both free and paid content. The TV brands are still dicking around with incomplete propriety systems that fail to offer the full menu, and Sky would try to lock everything in to a sub only ecosystem.
People talk about BT and TalkTalk hijacking Youview, but they've ensured it short-term success and in turn that actually benefits those after free IPTV. The boxes aren't cheap but the BT/TT sales will help obtain economies of scale, supply a second-hand market and maximise the chance of other content providers joining the system.
The area where Youview does need criticism is failing to get any of the TV manufactures on-board. IMO due to being too strict about the Youview experience and not coming up with a version of the specs that the TV companies can bolt on to a TV.
Re: (Non-commercial) parody MUST be protected
For-profit parody should be protected too. The import test is "Is it satirical parody?". Is it Imitating something to make a political/social point, or just to sponge off someone else's fame/notoriety?
...I ran an FM station I'd campaign against DAB too:
You can't go giving the great unwashed a choice. They might discover 6Music and stop listening to my completely non-unique blend of adverts and turgid X-Factor 'hits'. Car drivers should have the choice of four BBC stations and two commerical stations. Anything more is a communist plot to deprive me of my profit.
It makes sense for the important, signature projects to be under give-something-back style GPL licences. They're high value and value to many. You can maximise the total value by using this to really push the code ever forward and produce a quality program.
But most projects are small-time niché works; they're never going to end up with any army of people/organisations contributing code, and nobody is ever going to enforce the terms of any licence. You might as well just throw it open to the world and see what may.
It's the fundamental job of a search engine to get the user to their information via the shortest route. Showing a map directly instead of showing a link to a map is exactly what all search engines should be doing. Stopping a search engine from doing so is a retrograde step from the user's perspective.
To be fair, XP is a dead man walking, with just days over a year left until MS stop fixing security holes. It only makes sense for so long to hold off on new features because people are using an outdated browser. Besides, Ignore the prompts and the fundamentals of gmail still work in IE8.
Is Chromium a less objectionable option than Chrome?
Visit the Crofton Beam Engines in Wiltishire to see an original Boulton and Watt stream engine, still in its original location, and still capable of doing what it was designed to do two centuries ago. When it comes to tech that changed the world, you can't much important than the Industrial Revolution.
I've always found nedit to be a dependable workhork. However I see from wikipedia that development has ceased.
Re: YouView vs Windows Media Centre + TunerfreeMCE
Those who want to build a small form factor PC, configure the software and have it under their television are always going to be a 'special interest minority'. So your PC is completely the wrong comparison.
The masses want something a low-hassle, off-the-shelf device. Its competitors are Smart TVs (walled gardens at the mercy of whoever made the device), game consoles, BT Vision, whatever Sky bring to the market, etc.
As for it's business plans, remember it's not a single monolithic identity. Youview LTD is not-for-profit so just needs to turn over enough to keep developing the spec and running the root servers. The expensive bandwidth-hungry-content-spewing-media-servers will be run by the respective content providers; so the iplayer servers will be funded by the licence fee, ITVplayer/4oD/Demand5 will be funded using the same adverts as they use to fund their websites, BT will be looking at some subscription system, etc.
Don't view it as a particular product from a particular company at a particular time. It's more of an attempt to create an ecosystem that can develop and grow. Only time will tell if it success or fail, but if it is the former, expect 'Youview Compatible' to slowly become ubiquitous in all TVs, Freeview and Freesat boxes.
For some reason, I've started to get regular spam for PATesting. What kind of idiot would take up that offer?
"Hello, is that No Scruples Ltd? Yes, I'd like to invite you in to my place of business, and leave you alone for the afternoon with my computer equipment."
Rumour has it...
...in order to meet the director's original vision;
Jean-Luc now has CGI hair.
Wesley now has a genetically enhanced monkey that sits on his shoulder, wise-cracking and introducing moments of slapstick levity.
Data walking about is now accompanied by the sound of steam-pistons; an oversight saw this removed prior to the original broadcast.
The Borg only start to assimilate people after the TNG crew were mean to them first.
Isn't that a misrepresentation of Youview? They're defining the UI of the platform wide aspects (EPG, setup, browsing OnDemand providers, etc), but each content provider still gets to define their own portal?
The picture you showed is Youview-consortium defined, but then that's be it's the EPG for freeview (all Youview boxes will also be Freeview boxes). You can see the link to access ITV-Player, that'll lead you to a UI that is unlikely to be the same as the BBC iPlayer.
How is this different to HbbTV?
HbbTV: Overall UI defined by the hardware manufacturer. You use this to select an individual content provider from a list. Only then do you reach a UI defined by the content provider.
Youview: Overall UI defined by Youview, implemented by hardware manufacturer. You use this to select an individial content provider from a list. Only then do you reach a UI defined by the content provider.
The Freeview EPG is awful; Freesat is the one that got it correct. Partly it's a question of timing, all the +1 and whatnot could be correctly ordered from day one rather than added over time. However, it also breaks it down in to a larger number of groups, and the shopping guff is put last.
A brilliant, underappreciated game. Personally I loved using the Persuadertron to build the largest possible massive swarm of cannon fodder.
The only thing missing was the ability to rotate the world by 90 degree increments. I played a demo of the follow up, but the move to 3D killed the feel of the game. A modern day recreation, sticking with isometric but throwing in multiplay would surely be a blast?
Disappointed of Tunbridge Wells
You mean the end of Sneakers isn't realistic?
All it really confirms is they won't be a early adopter. If they manage to get Youview right, then somewhere down the road Sony will end up having to support it. If they get it wrong, we'll be stuck with the tyranny of manufacturers plowing their own furrows.
Yet another British business flogged off to foreign interests.
Who is going to be first to bemaon the darth of dearth of IPv6-capable, consumer-level routers?
Your computer might...
...but your router and ISP almost certainly doesn't.
...still to be one dimensional?
Am I tripping?
It looks like El Reg. It says El Reg. And yet it's a Youview article without frothing-at-the-mouth. I'm confused.
On the other hand
If the advert had said:
" Brennan JB7: Store an Unlimited number of audio cd's*.
* actual limit: 500."
they'd probably be okay.
I was hoping that the delays might finally push it in to a window where it'll be visible over here; for that to happen it needs to pass overhead in a short period after sunset, or before sunrise. I saw STS-128 in the early hours of Sept '09. Sadly, the new window for STS-133 puts it over Blightly just after 10pm, more than a few hours too late.
Can we put the old 'why do I have to pay for Xmb/s when I only get Ymb/s?' complaint to bed. It is brought up in every broadband conversation, and it's gone beyond boring.
The fact is you're not paying for Xmb/s, you're paying to use a certain technology that just happens to have a theoretical limit of Xmb/s but a practial limit of Ymb/s. As far as I can tell, whether your modem manages to talk to your exchange at 2mb/s or 20mb/sdoesn't change their infrastructure costs . It's how heavily you utilise the connection that ends up putting strain on the infrastructure and increasing their costs.
There's never going to be a discounted priced for people in your situation. If we were to return to the dark days of different pricing for different speeds, it'd be us being held to random with a choice between rip-off prices at higher speeds or artifically capped speeds, not bargin prices for slow connections.
If you want an anology; your desire for a price-by-connection-speed is akin to motor manufacturers making a cheap family hatchback that can do 100mph then giving you a choice of paying 9k and having it speed limited to 45mph, or paying 20k. Neither of those represent a fair price.
Will 2011 be the year of...
It's either going to blow everything else out of the water or be yet another half-baked solution that only does half of what you should reasonably expect it to do.
In the mean time, it's a desktop PC for me.
Inbetween the Jacobs cream crackers and the Hovis Digestives....
Would you like some cheese with that Butter Puff Biscuit?
(I do apologise profusely, that was a FAILed attempt to make some sort of buscuit related pun out of 'puff piece'. I really shouldn't have hit submit. )
re: missed pun opportunity.
trackle. tackle. One of these days i'll master the art of typing accurately.
Missed pun opportunity
Shouldn't the article read "Luckily Illinois law enforcement are trained to trackle deadly weapons of every description"?
I imagine it won't take much to upgrade Firesheep to defeat Blacksheep by being more rigorous in determining sessions that are actually successful, rather than just anything that appears to be an attempted login. The fakeness of the attempts could then be turned against it such that Firesheep detects those using Blacksheep.
I haven’t installed any sheep based plugins, but would a possible countermeasure be to passively listen for any occurrence of a login occurring from multiple IPs? It would only reveal an attack after the fact, and it wouldn’t work if the sidejack is routed via a secure tunnel, but it also wouldn’t be such a visible look-at-me countermeasure.
They've also now published the first draft of the Canvas tech specs. When can we expect your impartial technical analysis?
No tax dollars
I believe that the vistor stuff at KSC has to be entirely self-funded from tickets and gift shop sales, and no Govt. funding is allowed to be allocated?
Why has nobody recommended Alpine? You lot with your fancy, pretentious GUIs.
I run TB3 as my main email client, and can't say I have any complaints. If anything, I've found TB3 a step in the right direction. The only downside is somewhere in my attempts to share the profile between Ubuntu and Windows corrupted the calendar database and I lost everything.
The RAJAR number of 1 million listeners almost certainly masked the explostion in listeners by some margin; the closure announcement came two-thirds of the way through the RAJAR quarter, biasing the figure towards the pre-announcement figure.
A couple of years ago I finally made the switched from Windows + rarely used Linux dualboot, to Linux + rarely used Windows dualboot, due to better TV card support . However, I'm now planning on getting a second desktop to run both OSes in parallel.
Why? Because there really is no substitute for Lightroom. Well, except Apature on a Mac. And there was an attempt at an open-source equivalent, blueMarine, but it appears to have died already. The current linux options aren't bad software per se, they just can't match the high standards set by Lightroom.
"This actually was a blessing for Linux, because with one of the two desktop environments removing itself from the picture, development focused on the one that was still waggling its little legs."
Really? Despite KDE4's difficult gestation, and premature adoption by Kubuntu et al, I haven't noticed any large scale shift in support. For the most part, the pro-KDE camp carries on being pro-KDE, and the pro-Gnome camp carry on being the pro-Gnome camp.
I've carried on using KDE out of habit; while I regreted the initial switch to KDE4, it's come on a long way, and I only find small niggles now. On a plus note, nobody has tried to move my window buttons to the wrong side...
Did somebody pee in your cornflakes this morning?
While there are some genuine questions to ask about the openness of the specification, and whether they should rewriting the technical spec of the wheel, overall I think this is a good thing.
Quite frankly, the pre-Canvas progress at mainstream not-via-a-pc IPTV would best be described as laughable if it wasn't also quite so contemptuous of the consumer.
It seems that without exception, the "internet enabled" TVs so far have offered a risible garden-walled selection, presumably for grubby money reasons. Now given that irrespective of how it occurs, sooner or later we'll get a dominant system, and I'd rather have one based on the self-serving interests of the BBC, ITV and Channel 4, than the self-serving interests of BSkyB.
Wheres the fun?
Personally, I'm disappointed at the lack of a super-hero/super-villain themed distro. The first question asked during install should be a choice between 'I fight for the good of mankind' or 'Tonight, we try to take over the world!'.
terrible joke incoming...
"All we ever get from Mr Orlowski (on the subject of DAB) is complete and total "it's pants" opinion.....it's almost like the same old record being played over and over again...."
A bit like the music selection on FM...
Content is King!
DAB might have some technical and financial issues but it also has 6Music (for now), which makes it culturally more valuable than the entire output of FM put together. Quality of Content trumps quality of transmission every time, and FM offers an woefully, woefully narrow diet.
I'd rather listen to 6Music/NME Radio/Planet Rock/XFM/Amazing via a windup radio played via a speaker from a musical-christmas car, while underwater, than be sat in the corner of the recording studio of most FM stations...
I'm rapidly getting more anonymous
I'm only unique to 1 in 60,000. And it was 1 in 90,000 ten minutes ago.
I too was surprised at the lack of any reference to the Acer Revo.
However, the miniaturisation that most intrigues me at the moment is the Sheevaplug, and the upcoming Guruplug. They're headless which makes them more useful as a home server than a main PC, but I believe there's a headed version in the works.
Looking at that motley lot, it's not hard too look wistfully at Project Canvas and the treasures it might unleash. Why the disbelief that allowing access to a tiny, pre-selected section of the internet is going to be a successful selling point?
Can I request that you correct the title to "200 Welsh TV shows'had less than the statistical significant 1000 viewer cutoff limit".
At least the Telegraph put in that fact in to their article. Which I might add you haven't linked to, something which is poor etiquette to both the reader and the source.
And neither of you linked to the original story, which happens to be the article with the highest quality of journalism.
Tineye.com is a service where you can upload a photo and it'll tell you where else it occurs on the internet (it claims to handle resizing, cropping and other variations). Some sort of officially recognised repository where everyone can submit their photos would go a long way to solving this.
He should have claimed...
It's not a mistake, it's a typographical feature.
I also suspect that <VIDEO> will, to a degree, be held back by the fact that instead of URL obfuscation, it provides an opportunity for ubiquitous Right Click-Save As functionality in browsers. Sure, non-visible URLs is a security by obscurity feature of Flash that is trivial to sidestep, but that won't stop Pointy Haired Bosses demanding it.
Will the <VIDEO> tag gain widespread usage once pointy-haired bosses, lawyers and co find out that suddenly you can download videos by right-clicking and selecting Save As? Sure, there's a million ways around Flash's URL obfuscation, but it takes it from those who bother to find out how, to making it available to everyone by default...
..this car only runs on Ford tyres. Please take it to your local Ford dealer."
Apple don't have to like it, or cooperate, but equally it's perfectly fine for Palm to make theie hardware work in place of an ipod. You might as well claim it's wrong to open a .DOC in anything other than Word, to refill printer cartridges, ...
Tax funded copyright
Rob: "The NPG seem like they are only trying to protect the Taxpayers investment"
Which is an area where are vastly different atitudes either side of the Atlantic. The American view seems to be that if something is paid for by the public then it belongs to the public, and hence you can't impose copyright. So for example, NASA doesn't get to rake in millions from their photography to put towards their costs....
I can see both sides here; fundamentally they're public domain works and we shouldn't allow organisations to reclaim copyright. However, it pays to be practical about the fact it does cost money to professionally digitise a collection.
Perhaps a sub-type of copyright for labour-intensive digitisations; 20 years or so only (long enough for musuems to reclaim the cost, short enough to respect the concept of public domain) and with increased fair-use exceptions for any non-profit activities.
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