257 posts • joined 26 Jun 2009
Being a manageable workplace risk shouldn't Safe Work Australia be involved...
What could go wrong!
Is what everyone was getting with a passive optical network... Yes 6% of pundits could ask(pay) for more and get a dedicated fibre rather than one there sharing with, what was it? 16 other premisis.
So you could then run it at a high speed. Yes in theory the switching gear could be upgraded, when new stuff comes out. But with the spend on building the NBN people would demand a return on investment, so how could upgrades NOT lag for a number of years before having the digital divide argument again.
The NBN was being rolled out in Tas with so many complete stoppages that it made you wonder if Telsra was directly paying the union safety bods to make it fail. The contractors were being hellishly squeezed.... (Some hearsay rumor of $5K to clean a pit of chemicals used in the snotboxes,let lone asbestos, so perhaps the safety guys were making money)
Anyway... With the setup final fibre connection to a house could take 4 or 5 seperate visits? Over a couple of months! OMG! A well laid out development plan or Money pit, You decide.
But the devil IS in the detail
How Microsoft has fallen
WOW! I'd never thought I'd hear such enduser friendly language from microsoft.
You'd never catch face(mindcontrol)book, or goo(collect everything)gle attempting to massage public opinion by shoring up the pipes(please ignore the back door).
Oh.... Hang on.... DOH! I get it now. NSA isnt paying microsoft for tapping the traffic OUTSIDE the data center!
Mircosoft change...LOL..silly me.
Yes we're putting up with some crappy stuff from this guy, but the others.... Another term, and there would be no small business sector left....
The guy in charge of the ALP the puppet master for the Kevin vs Julia wars, and the old power brokers responsible for so much pain and hurt are still there, conroy, wong,...
We need people to export, manafacture goods, use refrigerants, insulate your house, grow cattle, provide dental work, all sectors that the ALP DECIMATED in the truest meaning of the word!
You seriously want to go back to where generous grants are only available to those that can apply within the first 12 hours of a program? That somehow only works your employees are in the right union.....?
What am I missing.?
You still want paper based voting. So a vote slip is printed and may be verified, recounted etc. But it must able to be electronicly scanned.
Hell you could even printout your vote at home, zoom down to the pooling booth and submit it, there. If you didn't post it perviously. The only trick is ensuring that you only vote once.
I hear Labor doesn't like that ;-)
My Eyes my Eyes!
Let this be a reminder to the kiddies out there, not all links are to be clicked on. When words like cringeworthy, goatse or phrases like 'youll never believe' and ' 5 things that ....'
DONT NOT CLICK ON THE LINK!
P.S. Anyone know of a good therapist that can remove tautological rhetoric. I'm just glad I'm not a QLD employee, otherwise I couldn't post here....
Would we be told?
I guess whizzed by answers that question.
A week... Could have booked a nice place with the right view....
Bomb because there's no pouting icon.
First thing that sprung to mind was the fate of people who tried to blackmail the guys on the series 'Nip Tuck'? Dont mess with plastic surgeons :-)
Thumbs up on the handling of the 'stuff up'... So far.
OIL OIL OIL
What a coincidence... Now what areas is Russia interested in? Where are its troops massing
I've been trying to find the percentage of people required in a country to run a successful revolution. I thought it was a fraction of the ethnic russians.
Protecting ethnic russians is happy coincidence
Worried about NBN not lack of it
Its all Hype, Smoke and Mirrors.
There is a reason that the Libs make the insult 'You've been drinking the NBN coolaid'
Tasmania is one of the most NBN connected areas. We have fibre to the node in some areas NBN via wireless in others and NBN via satalite...
It has been a poitically motivated roll out. The fibre is a passvely shared network. I forget if it was 16 or 32 premesis that share the one fibre. They essentially deliver 3 strands to allow for future upgrades in a way that doesnt take you off the network. But still its a party line. When the neighbours endpoint fails in the right mode its going to leave a lot of unhappy customers.
Fully subscribed your bandwidth will be 80Mb (assuming no communications overhead)... Which is a lot, and technicaly possible to upgrade, but given the headache of the fibre rollout I cannot see it EVER being upgraded. 6% of lucky subscribers may be able to have their fibre upgraded to a point to point connection. Could be cool.
Cost for access? yes unless your Aunt Dorothy you'll be paying more.
So it sounds fast, has the ability to be upgraded, so whats the problem?
Well we have all experienced dodgy mobile phone connections. Wireless NBN will provide take out your old copper and instead give you VOIP over the wireless... Nervous yet?
How about satelite? VOIP over that anyone? Suddenly the concept of removing your old phone services and leaving you with a layer 2 connection port to your service provider suddenly sounds like you've just had a run in with IT on an evangelical agenda.
And we have seen agendas play out. Telstra dragging its heels, scares of asbestos stopping all work, across the state. Electrical Trades Union bignoting itself. Thats locally, wont mention conroy and underpants or lack of spectrum, satalite slots etc.
The wife has an accountancy practice in central hobart. We are having the copper disconnected in 6 months. The second round of dissconnections. The first round will be in may. Telstra are at this point in time UNABLE to process orders to have our data and voip service transefered from copper to the NBN (digital business). There is at minimum a 6 week delay between placing an order for the NBN and it being delivered. Oh n those cutoff dates are set in stone. The way out is to have a contract with Telstra saying your moving to their NBN, but as of last week you couldn't place an order.
Going to see someone with satelite NBN tomorrow, he is very unhappy with his broadband. Said voice was impossible, long delay then echo. Guess I'll see if my fears are true.....
Pot meet Kettle..
For a laugh....
Ask those questions of Microsofts own software
Oh and be fair
Ignore the rule 'Falsely claim to be a program from Microsoft.'
and then see how your microsoft software checks out.... I'm wondering what they have that passes
NBN is Telstras flood of 67
Jim: How am I going to explain the missing documents to the Mail?
Sir Humphrey: Well this is what we normally do in, circumstances like these. [hands over a file]
Jim: [reading] This file contains the complete set of papers, except for a number of secret documents, a few others which are part of still active files, a few others lost in the flood of 1967. [to Humphrey] Was 1967 a particularly bad winter?
Sir Humphrey: No a marvellous winter, we lost no end of embarrassing files.
Just dont forget the spares
You don't know what people have been doing to those machines. Do they even contain the memory and drives they origionally had? People often ummm, mislead you with what they say. If they can boot off a USB or CD, then SNAIL MAIL them up a linux cd and usb stick, tweek them a bit so they open up a reverse tunnel to you. (dd over the ddrive will show if there are any problems with the harddrive, lshw and you wont have any surprises with the hardware, hell you may even be able to talk them through actually running memtest!)
If your feeling really clever, you can mount the drives with ntfs-3g and try to copy back the system hive c:\windows\system32\config\system.dat If you can you can read the hive for what has been installed on the machines. (a little less error prone than checking directories, oh hang on ive got scripts for that ;-)
Best option probably would be to take up a bunch of refirbs, so you can set them up in a lab and have them as bomb proof as posible. ie a couple of days testing memory and drives, and have a system that they can use to reimage them. Have all the networking sorted so you just have to plug them in and migrate old data.
Refurbish and resale what you bring back. But I guess it all depends upon your budget.
Otherwise make sure you have plenty of spare parts.....
From getting rsync working with dos PROPERLY ( ie link it in to volume shadow copy,so you can backup registry etc, vshadow.exe ) Ugggghhh what fun! And then a bit more of a code nightmare getting it to network properly. FUN FUN FUN.
Each new version of windows had a new way of doing things, and significant changes to the capabilities, so when powershell came out yeah it'll be about as useful as vbscript, capable but you still have to dig out the old tools, and forgotten when the NEW thing comes along. So with my meddling in powershell recently, I have actually been plesantly surprised by it...
Mind you, these days for scripting I'm finding myself going for python more and more. Just simply wrap any command line and the ease of getting stuff done well
Light emmitting DIODES people! DIODES, as used in easly logic circuits. This could have all sorts of digital applications. (Key of course is the electrical characteristics)
So they're trying the sicky tape approach with other materials and seeing whats useful. Better jump to it or someone else will patent the results....
Hmm... Duct tape is so much better.... And I think even mythbusters got the Saami Rocket happening....
I wonder.... B-)
I have a problem really understanding patents, but couldn't this one be be avoided entirely by not having a great goofy logo in the middle of the cover?
Re: it all begins to sound
I've got to aggree with John P. Windows 8 appears to be a much better engine. But the guys doing the Interface OMG!
Then there's the creepiness factor! People still think they own the software, even if its a 12 month subscription (Office 365), so its rare that they don't get upset when your signup process demands their age, sex and would like their phone number. Its productivity software, not some sleazy site....... Doh!
An interesting effect. I had one client with a windows 8 machine, his settings disabled updates over connections that cost you money. Somehow he had drivers that had 1/2 downloaded updates. His computer got stuck in a reboot loop trying to update components. (solution was to somehow get it in a safe mode and activate the updates over connections that cost yo money, but I digress)
Observing the complains about the components, well why don't you fix it by installing the files, updating the registry entries. Nope. The files were at their correct versions, the registry entries were correct. The thing was baulking due to components not being registered correctly in windows side by side. *sigh ok where's the problem here*? Well the components appear to be digitally signed, with an expiration date etc....(looks like a digital certificate chain, presumably they can issue CRL's) Oh... Comparing to another machine, and a few basic experiments later, They're signed against a signature PER machine. I didn't think of looking at TPM (Thought that was killed years ago) :-(
So what does this mean in reality? Well You have to TRUST M$, because they control the keys that controls what you CAN run on your computers. Trouble with this is that you also have to trust the US government. We have never had ANYTHING like this every before!
This isn't a DRM issue, nor a trust them not to seal data (which it is), its a sovereignty issue. US government with the keys to disable all your Internet connected windows 8 machines, no they would never abuse that sort of power....Yeah Right!
Re: "everyone bets on Linux today"
"And that will continue until Outlook runs on Linux boxen. Natively."
Either that or someone tarts up evolution.
Re: Wouldn't have happened with Windows 8...
I'm offended that you would think I don't take the time to look after my clients. With windows 8 I have provided more initial support than ever before.
Unfortunately most of my clients are well, 'the unwashed masses', and metros schizophrenic nature plus M$ forcing their online services down peoples throats (IMHO) are causing issues.
One well meaning old dear had ADSL issues, so the email system prompted her for a password. She just enters all her account details again, what she thinks is right. OMG the mess from that simple little misunderstanding!
I could list a long line of, only win8 bugs that I have encountered, but hey every windows version is the same, initially.
The thing that I was commenting on was the fact that, from my experience, when vista came in you had people complementing it(+), people reserving their comments(=), and people being derogatory about it(-).
With windows 8 I've only had people reserving their comments(=) or being derogatory about it(-).
How about you taking the time and listening to what people say
Re: Wouldn't have happened with Windows 8...
"I think you will find that Windows 8 already has a couple of orders of magnitude more users than Ubuntu...."
Only due to ignorance! :-P
(Actually, I have yet to find a client that thinks windows 8 is ok. They universally seem to hate it, not even Vista got it this bad! Maybe I need more clients! )
I want to hear one say
"Malformed XML Exception!"
"Malformed XML Exception!"
"Malformed XML Exception!"
Before going on a murderous rampage. PLEASE!
(Malformed XML is always a good reason for a muderous rampage!)
Re: Alternative to Windows?
Ok I'm late to the forums AS usual but I have to reply to this
"(NTFS use kills the CPU on Linux, a very well known bug they can't be bothered to fix)."
For fun try
1. copying the contents of Documents to a network drive.
2. Now while that is happening try zipping documents, and copy the ziped file to the network drive.
If you have any number of documents at all 2 will be faster than 1. Hell in the past your lovely windows would say its all done, when its only copied a subset of your files. So I suppose you could say MS is improving....
"Microsoft has pretty much just spit in the faces of their users and has indicated that it no longer has any real interest in remaining in the business of making products its customers want. "
Umm,... hate to tell you this, but once you understand that Microsoft is about the money 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Some of their rather unfortunate behavoiur makes sense.
M$ spitting in your face since... ummm DOS (maybe before, but i'm only aware of those products and later).
Rise, Rise Rise of the machines?
Machine trundling along the inside of a ball is one thing, but If they could violently change its centre of gravity. That would be really cool! Bounce over obstacles. Self bouncing ball anyone?
"for super simulating silent subs"
Didn't they sort out the noise issues when they removed the windows based combat systems and replaced them with german kit?
"um sorry the systems rebooting"
Not looking good there. Including device encryption is one step away from, enabled by default. At least now if someone does something goofy we can get a fair bit of their data back.
Last couple of windows 8 issues Ive had to deal with were windows component registration issues. The underlying file was ok, but the registration of it was corrupted so endless reboot loop. In the past this could have been fixed, correcting the registry, fixing the files. But as more of the system becomes encrypted, digitally signed theres going to be less that we can do.
UEFI was the first step, cant have us loading something before their stuff. I guess I'm a little surprised at the pace, 8.1 device encryption and finally on by default? When? At this pace the major update after 8.1.
At that point off line fixes will be no longer practical. You'll have to fix things the Microsoft way. I need a new job, FAST!
The experience is not a plesant one
last time I tried the google option didn't even look like google. The Mum and dad users certianly ar not going to complete the process.
Secure OS seriously?
Why would you loose the chance to implement random weirdness in your competitors?
On a similar note has anyone managed to change the search provider to google in ie10 yet?
1. Whatever will get us a vote
2. Go the Man
3. Polls are irrelevant.
4. The Plebs only have the memory of a goldfish
5. Truth is whatever we say it is, today.
Its scary, the scale of the corruption/incompetence (delete the most uncomfortable term)
I'm just delighted we still have a constiutional democracy. If this lot had the Governor Generals Powers we could kiss goodbye to any semblance of democracy.
Re: What it's for
"Um so why haven't govs killed of notes & coins cash yet?"
Do you think they pay for those billion dollar projects in cash? Its an interesting exercise calculating the volume of currency required for <INSERT DEBACLE HERE>
Not to far of a stretch really
Oh hang on.... Not Crack, ummSpeedy Gonzales?
Oh I know
They're Top Guns.... The highest of the high.
There is nothing so EVIL
As being on the receiving end of COUNCIL politics!
Hey stop bashing guys!
If ubuntu gets anything much done here it's a win to us all. The stuff that I want to do with my phone is easy on my linux desktop (except for the telephony bits), but very clunky via android.
The more applications and the better linux support the more flexibility we all gain. You know benefits of FOSS software, etc.
Re: To be fair to Vista
If you've ever thought the windows registry sucked. The first transition to 64bit in xp and vista used registry redirects, err reflection, to give different results depending upon if the registry call was performed by 32 or 64 bit code, add to that the first real use of winsxs (windows side by side for OS files) Its no wonder Vista was a dog, performance wise.
Thankfully they dropped reflection with win7. Since MS use winsxs for code signing I cant see them removing it from the os files. So if the manafests get stuffed good luck having the os work. (I can fix the files, I can fix the registry, but not the manafest digital signatures they seem to be signed to the pc )
Read up about either system and if you dont think they're dumb, for please vote me down!
Why is this news?
Using off the shelf stuff to get a crappy experience,
To avoid lugging around heaps of adapters, charger's n stuff he'd need Zeiss Cinimizer's but $800? Ik!
Mind you With utter and tasker you can do a lot on your android phone :-) Its still quite rough though. You need your phone running and unlocked, and then to click on the utter command icon to activate the thing. You can install nova launcher to enable long press on menu to fire off utter. Much better experience, but you still have to unlock your phone first. You could use a NFC tag to fire off utter, but to enable it while the phone is locked would expose your phone to all NFC all the time (No thanks)
Just too awkward, and clunky with android at the moment. Will the ubuntu phone concept push the wearable computer over the line? It may be enough for me.... What this guy has done? No.
Re: Waiting for answers
$14B for telstra, and about $20B that cannot be backed out of already. So the Libs have to do something with it. The Scortched Earth policies of this current government are incredible. Hell the surplus they were going to have was simply from shifting the outgoings from this current financial year to the next.
Just wait for all the social security benefit funding to run into the wall, set for 2 years from now. They're happy to produce all these reforms now, cause they wont be picking up the bill. Bloody economic vandals.
I would love to see fibre to the home, but not at the price of this lot staying in power. This bunch is SO toxic, that it makes Tony Abbot look acceptable!
The only way there's going to be a change is if WE the people actually get off our backsides and get involved with politics. It may be distasteful, but its not that hard. Go join the political party of your choice and MAKE a difference. You really can.
Re: Oh Linux...
VS M$ The software that should always remain in a beta stage...
VS Apple The software that always keeps users always in a padded cell...
There I said it!
Actually Win8 looks pretty damned robust at the moment. Its a shame really. Who wants to be locked in to M$ forever? Please avoid!
I must be dotty
Cause this news put me in a bit of a spin
OMG Troll in the 'DARK AGES'
Jeez, how come so many of you BILLBOYZ don't understand a very simple fact: People do NOT want WINDOWS!
Yes, you might like it, as might the tech support guy you hangout with, but 95% of the people who use computers on a regular basis (whether for fun or for work) have no interest in WINDOWS, and will never have it!
And quite a few of them, like me, have tried it and either don't like it, or don't believe it's worth the effort. IOS or preferably Android is all we need!
There fixed it for ya "Troll baby"
Good luck to them
Given how the trolls tend to have more corporations than patents and can simply have the corporate entity behind failed legal action X go bust rather than pay up. I can understand why even big corporate players are asking, not before time, for some balance.
Yes we have seen how big payers if they are given free reign, will abuse the system. Google will want to SHARE eveything. For Patents to work these days you need almost a productivity test.
Is the patent being used by a small biz, is their production (sales value or volume) enough to allow them to be trodden on.
Does the patent holder just hold the patent or do they produce goods with it.
Are any of the parties engaged in nuisance litigation. Are they the inventor, produce goods directly based on the invention, or have enough financial capital to really fight it out?
The easy approach is not to do an in depth analysis of what is actually good for the country. The result is that the big corporates win.
So anything, that seeks to get a meaningful report on the mess HAS to be applauded.
Interesting on the PC repair trade.
If your asked to remove this virus it could all fall on you. Hear of someone with this virus, refuse to work on their computer as it would require you committing an offense. Direct them somewhere else (Dodgy Competition) and then call the police on the competition. PROFIT!
Re: Wah Wah Wah
re is my experience of UEFI. Let me know If you would find this something you would be happy about.
I use linux to repair malfunctioning windows machines. I boot them via network PXE boot and then work on them with Windows essentially offline.
The new UEFI standard means on HP laptops I have to.
1. Find the magic key get into the bios
2. Diable secureboot and be told that this will likely make my system inoperable
3. Activate legacy boot options and enable
4. Enter a random generated pin to get the secureboot options off.
5. Reboot and press magic key #2 to get the legacy boot options to work at all, otherwise it boots stright into windows
6. Go and choose the network to boot from, even knowing I set it to be the defult boot option within the bios
7. Allow the machine to boot
(from this point if I want network boot I must repeat steps 5,6,7)
vs before UEFI
1. Find the magic key to get into the bios
2. Set the default boot device to be network,
3. often enable PXE rom in the bios
(From this point boot OS is determined via dhcp options)
Now if to boot windows you had to
1. Go and set an option that tells you that it will destroy your computer
2. Enter a code to show that you really want to destroy your computer
then for each time you boot
3. press a key that is not normally displayed
4. Actually select that you wanted to boot windows not (linux ICK!)
Would you be happy?
Would you send the bloody stupid thing back cause its not fit for purpose?
Now as a consumer you cannot buy an alternative, because a behemoth company, used financial inducements to influence what you can buy.
Is the average lay person going to try a live CD when they are told that this will destroy their PC? This goes a little beyond a choice of browser. Unfortunately this is probably better describe as an anti competitive cartel. Action needs to be brought against the manufacturers. Otherwise Microsoft will just say it was up to the manufacturers if they wanted discounts for adopting a standard.
If MS loose a few billion. Nothing will change. If the manufacturers do, as well.....
Things will really change.
Re: Windows 8 - It should go away.
Actually I disagree on this. Win8 FINALLY gives the average plebeians a versioning backup system where they only have to plug in an external drive and turn on!
This is well worth, suffering the 'metro' start menu silliness.
Icon cause, well its Microsoft looking for our wallets again.
Re: I'm not Eadon...
But corebios is looking good about now. The more I read about UEFI the more i want to put linux there instead :-P
Re: But at what price
No, you can't use that trick anymore
Typically a USB-3 drive these days have their own controller card. ie the card on the drive has only USB-3 output
Re: Oh Bullshit Mrs Ginger.
Chuckle, The funny things been the responses.
40% repeat and treat it as news,
30% say Oi she ripped the guts out of the relevant budgets n cry "Bullshit",
20% say it sounds lovely but given the current lots track record, don't hold your breath they're an pack of liars
10% Dont want to say anything as they might anounce something "Strategic" in the secor you work in "Bloody Hell!!!!"
Not our most destructive fires either
The temerature was the same then as when this set of fires occured.
Of the 4 main fires in Tassie. The reported causes were
An inproperly extinguished campfire.
The big one destructive on was due to a stump that had caught fire a number of days earlier reignighting. Apparently the roots could have still been smouldering underground.
I have not hear of reports of the other two.
The number of people who would fall for that. Yes we will ditch MS and then want to use the spawn from hell software that got us into the whole mess in the first place.
Had to do a mail merge from a sqlite db recently. Ok so I haven't done this stuff for 10+ years. What do I have available Office 2007, and can find a ODBC driver for sqlite. So I should be able to do this. Hurdle 1 its a 64 bit win7 so have to register the odbc via the 32 bit odbc manager that is only available from the windows directory. Ok mail merge, hang on, office needs to get its data via DDE? So I need to have Access Installed?!? Even though office recognizes the odbc connection?!? So the job is going to cost my time plus the office upgrade. Well its a personal job, "She who has to be obeyed", her accounting practice. My time will cost about as much as getting Access.
Angry I build the whole thing in Libre Office. Even though I'm unfamiliar with Libre Office, it takes less time to build the whole shebang from scratch than it did to get as far as I did with MS, and its working on linux and windows, its portable to other machines in the office, no additional licenses. Sure I lost out on time I essentially built it twice, but I wont be doing that in the future.
Libre Office FTW
Is also well worth checking out. (for those without the luxury of a wipe and reinstall from an image)
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