362 posts • joined 24 Jun 2009
"Great. But the problem with that is that these features are on Android devices, and I haven't got time for all the fiddlarsing about that Android demands. Nor the clutter, and the all over the place interfaces."
Then try a Lumia, something mid range like an 830. Particularly if you throw on the dev preview. Has all the features iOS8 is touting minus the price and lack of HW choice Apple give you and none of the issues,you mentioned with Android.
Plus NFC that you can use! ;)
Have your own SharePoint farm, publish out OneDrive for business (on-prem, part of SharePoint) and if you want to go even further you can use SCCM to manage your own private app store too.
Same - in everyway!
Stating the obvious
But Shirley is the phone is in ones pocket then the thief can't know the OS it's running... Is there a greater proportion of Droid devices in DE compared to iOS and the opposite in the UK... Sounds a bit odd that a thief will actively target a device. By their nature they'll take what they can get.
Not sure I agree with the author
I just got a Lumia 930, and my colleague got the One M8 (Android). On the looks front even he conceded that the 930 has it hands down. The M8 seems well built, but it's not particularly "pretty".
The "app gap" is pretty much there. SkyGo and Virgin maybe MIA, but the overwhelming majority of users will be content with what's on the market. Even Barclays have a fully featured online banking client (at last!), eBay, Dominos, uTorrent, Plex, Vine, even El Reg has an app on the WP store. (Although it sucks). There really isn't much left at all now - I understand that the SkyGo app is in development and should be out in the coming months too.
Same with feature set.... Direct WiFi sync (lack of) is annoying, but if you use SkyDrive then that solves that. Better VPN support, text reader (e.g. SMS, web page reading out loud) and better attachment features for emails are the only things I can think of that I'd like to see. 8.1 latest update really has feature matched the current marketplace and added a few USP's too.
Like to see another OS in the mix maybe, the more that are pushing for market share the better. Just need MS to speed up development of WP and I see no reason why it shouldn't fly going forwards.
Not sure what the lie of the land is these days... will the HTC M8 get Nokia's HERE app suite? If not then sticking Nokia is a no brainer, if it goes then seems like a pretty good handset. Not sure about that flap though...
"Especially in conjunction with a PVR/Satellite box that does series linking."
Maybe I'm missing something, but if you have a STB that does series linking and recording why do you need it repeated?
Re: Balmer for the win!
1) Use it windowed... what's the problem? (Other than expecting 16-bit applications to run on platforms in 2014)
2) WINS. Look it up.
... Why not Win 2012 R2 server as the host, use NTFS Storage Spaces, can pass through disks as RAW/RDM's and have a guest Linux?
Sounds like most of your requirements are on the Windows side. Can SSH into the Linux VM, plus you can snapshot it too.
Re: I didn't read the entire article
Um, it will support anything a normal WinTel box will run...
If you have your favorite VPN client on a Win8 box then it will run fine on a Surface. It's just a Windows 8.1 tablet, runs all x86 apps as it would if you shoved Win8.1 onto a desktop or laptop.
Re: unhelpful review
Surface 2 = iPad competitor
Surface Pro 2 = MacBook Air competitor
Different markets, different prices
Although bloody huge!
3 year old rig. Some mid-range i5, 8Gb RAM and a Sammy 840 Pro SSD. Installed from VL ISO and took just shy of 20 minutes.
Upgraded fine - everything seems to work and the improvements are overdue and appreciated in equal measure. Small tweaks makes it vastly more usable than 8.0.
Is all very web-based, which if you want to target the biggest audience then it makes sense.
Something like a SQL DB backend, .Net middle-tier and a web front end in HTML5. Anything with a modern browser can access it, and .Net is going pretty strong plus you have a choice of languages too.
Can have any SQL backend you like, only MS tie in would be for the middleware so forking out for Windows Server to host and using VS 2012 for the IDE which is pretty good to be honest. IMHO I would suggest SQL Server, .Net middle-tier and IIS presenting the web front end in HTML5, tied up with ASP.Net maybe?
"However, the iMac could be criticised for valuing form over function."
From Apple?! No way!
Anyone saying that AD was corrupt, but also calls it "a router system" is clearly clueless.
Less said about taking 2 days to restore a fecking LDAP database the better....
Re: Larry's expensive walled garden or real choice.
Couldn't agree more.
After moving to WinPho about 2.5 years ago I'm truly shocked this has only just arrived. iOS has something similar, Android has loads of 3rd party apps which do the works but it appears as of today Windows Phone is the only platform where out of the box I can ring (regardless of volume set), lock, wipe and locate my handset using just what's built-into the platform.
Never thought I'd be saying that sort of thing about WP in 2013!!
Oh well. better late than never.
"Are the new ones indestructible?"
Yes and no. Compared to the older S40 handsets no they are not. Compared to current large screened devices then they are way ahead.
Polycarbonate shell makes it tough as nails, no scuffs, chips or even scratches on the body of my 920. Screen strength is better than anything else I can find at the moment on mainstream handsets.
Only thing to mention is that glass is the weakest link and whilst (IMHO) the Lumia range is one of the best in terms of durability they still fall short of the "indestructible" classics from the golden days of the 3300 / 6210 etc.
Whilst I think Linux has various areas which are superior to Windows, ease of use is not one of them.
6 years? You're a child.
And if you need 11 DC's for just 700 users then believe me its not the technology / vendor that's to blame.
Scaling has never been a problem for AD.
So instead of company being brought into look after system x and all associated software and hardware, the kit is re-purchased at a datacentre by a single entity, who spins up some VMware and Self-Service and now some company is being brought into look after the system and associated software and hardware at the datacentre instead...
Where's the cost saving?
I don't understand
Are people just doing D2D with cleverness like dedupe and compression?
Cause I thought most places still use tape for long term backups and archiving. Am I just behind the times?
Re: Eadon is dead!
Indeed.... Must say my mouse wheel is thankful for not having to skip over so many MS FAIL posts but would have been nice to keep the existing comments going.... in particular the referenced "tantrum".
El Reg - any chance of an article of recognition. Quite a change that's happened with him gone!
Re: So in other words
Do they have an overwhelming majority market share which would therefore lead to a monopoly?
Major economic downturn, computer sales slide 12% shocker.
Well bugger me. Major economic downturn, computer sales slide 12% shocker.
I'm not upgrading hardware at the moment because - like most people currently - I'm fairly skint compared to 6 years ago, and as other people have mentioned above hardware refreshes just don't need doing anywhere near as often, and when you do upgrade hardware / replace it the noticeable return on the spend is far less than in the late 90's as there is a negligible improvement on speed unless you're a hardcore gamer.
I won't be replacing my PC at home that I brought 3 years ago. I shoved in another 4Gb a few months back taking it to 8Gb and replaced the SSD at the same time as the previous one died.
Next year I may look at replacing the processor and possibly upgrading the graphics card. Although more likely to buy a new console at the end of the year instead and then replace the PC mobo, CPU and GPU in a couple of years instead.
Buying a new box every 3 years just isn't a priority for people's wallets at the moment. Throw in the extra £100 or so for a device to be touchscreen and making do with what I have seems like a sensible option really. Doubt I'm alone in this camp.
My decision making hasn't even reached the OS part, but even if it did then there's a range of Droid based products as well as iOS that I could use. Fingerpointing at Win8 is a tad unfair for the slump in sales, unless it's clear that it's occurred as soon as Win8 was launched. (I believe it was happening a few years ago.)
Re: Life coach
Out of all the platforms you pick Windows as the one associated with social awkwardness...
Says it all Eadon!
Re: If the US spooks have done nothing wrong
I note they don't like it when things are the other way round.
Re: Come on 150GB a month
Or 5 x 1080p films with 7.1 DTS sound.
If it says unlimited then it shouldn't matter if it's 15Gb, 150Gb or 15Tb. Just give us an advertised cap and be done with this unlimited BS. It can't be done with current technology and economics.
Re: And its SO HARD to use other services if you want to isn't it!
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought that MS were found to have a monopoly and as a result are under very strict rules and scrutinty. For example the various editions of Windows that come without media player or without other key parts. Another part was to only use the API's in public documentation within MS so they do not have a compeitive advantage. This seems like people would like to ensure Google do not have an unfair competitive advantage by having insider knowledge of the search algorithms / ways to improve the results of their other services. If all internal units as well as 3rd parties use the same guidelines then that's fair - this is what others are saying is not happening and therefore it's an unfair use of their position in the market.
Re: Rich rewards...... OH YEAH!!!
Give it a fucking rest Eadon. I can't be arsed to knock up a greasemonkey script just to blot out your repetitive, puerile and immature comments. Spammers have a more varied lexicon.
HAVING TO END IN UPPERCASE EVERYTIME (AND ICON MUST BE RED) AS I'M A FUCKING DICK
Re: 1366 x 768 screen ?????
"The <redacted> ribbon in Office takes up far too much real estate on the screen when it is 768 high."
Thankfully you can minimize the ribbon to just the title. When used that way it's quite efficient for the vertical height used.
Re: IR is NOT a useful addition to a phone
It's called a Logitech Harmony. Start at under £30 and if it cant be setup to work with all your kit nothing will.
Some are so big you just can't lose them!
Re: "[WP8] is well liked by its users."
Some of those are valid points and things that annoy me, although some have been resolved or at least are good enough to hardly warrant inclusion on a list.
Cellular data on Wifi...? Well don't all smartphones by their nature? Network operators only allow access to some resource (say payment of apps by your mobile bill) via their own infrastructure. Download of apps, syncing emails, browsing the web, streaming media etc. all happen over Wifi when connected.
Don't want cloud, don't use it. My mates have WP handsets and don't use Skydrive or Facebook. They don't have any accounts setup on their handset other than the mandatory Windows Live account. (Apple ID / Google account)
There is a file explorer. Not quite the whole system but all user data is accessible via USB share.
You can sideload applications if you want. Sideloading keys are on MS's website. We use them at my workplace for our in-house applications.
Well yeah, there's no syncing between Outlook client and the handset directly.... but wasn't that always a bit shit? Personally I think it makes more sense to have the handset sync with the mail server, and your desktop also sync's with the server. No dicking about with clients for various mail apps (If MS did one for Outlook would you then be complaining about Thunderbird not having a client). Bit of a non-issue as you can easily setup what you WANT regardless if there is a direct sync or not. In this day and age I would suggest more people keep their email on an email server centrally (e.g. Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo! etc.) and therefore clients that talk using IMAP or ActiveSync to the server is the most logical step.
If you want to know what data you've downloaded then try the Counters app from Nokia. There's dozens out there that will do what you want for free.
Well true - you can't uninstall the calendar or calculator - but other than rooting your Droid what handset can you uninstall SYSTEM applications from? You can remove any application outside of what MS have baked into the OS, so any crap from your network provider or 3rd party guff. Compared to Android it's a breath of fresh air.
I can download whatever I want. No idea what you mean.
I can send photo's over Bluetooth fine.
Rest of the points I agree with.
Re: "Thinner and lighter"
I'll tell her she has a dud then. It goes in both ways, but it's 50/50 if it'll charge or not. She did have problems with it when she first got it (wouldn't charge at all).
Re: "Thinner and lighter"
What does it add? To my knowledge it's a coil and a chip - not sure how much thickness or weight but the S4 is a lot lighter and thinner than the 920 so unless you have something to backup your claim of bulk I think its a little unfair to brush all qi charging as being terrible.
Personally I wouldn't pay £50 for a charger, but as Nokia gave me one free I am very happy with it. I'd pay say up to £10 - £15 for it. Yeah, it's a novelty. Then again my laptop users demaning Wifi even though they have 1Gig to the desktop is the same - just can't be arsed with cables.
Case in point: I lie in bed, decide it's sleep time and just place my phone on the bedside cabinet. It's charging.
My girlfiends iPhone 5 however requires her hanging half out of the bed, trying to find the cable, finally plugs it in only to find it's the wrong way round.
Yeah, it's not a problem. Have I even thought of it as being a problem? Nope. Am I glad I have it - you betcha. If only to have a smug smile on my face when my phone charges by placing it down and the miss's shiny shiny iPhone means she's scrabbling for the cables.
Why the hoohar?
Don't understand the fuss. 920 already does 4G very nicely thank you (which the article implies it doesn't). Only thing that's different is xeon flash rather than LED which I wish I had to be honest - and apparently it's slightly slimmer..... Not sure if that's engineering refinement or just a smaller battery.
Still both handsets are really rather nice.
Re: Age restricted sales = ID card preparation
Couldn't agree more. After posting my drivers licence for a photo update as required by the DVLA I found myself - at aged 28 - that I was unable to purchase a 6-pack of beer to take to a BBQ.
I was wearing a suit, was paying with credit card and had my car keys in hand.
Apparently I needed a passport or no alcohol. Common sense has just left the building....
Re: It's worse than you think.
Have an upvote just for this:
"Really? You do *NOT* want to know how I really feel, because it involves Industrial grade Nail Guns, trees, & electrified-barbed-wire-wrapped-baseball-bats applied repeatedly to your genitals."
Re: Internet connection required
Now now Eadon - only one trolling post per thread.
'Good for delivering a presentation, but other than Office on surface RT, I've not seen any office software that floats my boat. Trouble is, the lack of everything else makes Surface RT a bit of a one trick pony.'
Although doesn't surface rt use the ARM compiled edition of Office 2013?
If so can't you use any Windows 8 x86 tablet and buy Office with it?
Couldn't agree more, mirrors my sentiments entirely.
As usual with Microsoft the marketing has been poor. Can't say the Lumia's are amazing, but they are very capable, solid and affordable handset.
WP is getting the few core apps, mainly games, that the other two giants have, and I'd love more customizable autocorrect but otherwise it's a pretty solid platform.
As mentioned FM radio is enabled in PR2.0 firmware which is due July time I believe.
WiFi on when locked was out in the latest release on WP8.
Not before time (on both bits!) in my opinion.
Although I am the owner of an 920 which I'm rather pleased with still.
Re: If Talk Talk say they are so good...
True, I'm 400m from an exchange that's unlikely to have FFTC anytime soon (again, bumpkin land) and my connection is superb. Steady 4Mbs on private torrent sites, no caps, good reliability and very reasonably priced.
Their 'Customer Service' is closer to a threat than a department name but that aside; technically it's awesome for £30 a month including line rental, uncapped 22Mbs ADSL2+, and some unlimited landline call thing. (I don't even have a phone plugged in). Those YouView things are free now too if Freeview is your thing.
Obviously their non-LLU stuff is standard residential BT Wholesale with shite contention on the rented backhaul. Thought of that with the the woeful call centres is utterly depressing.
Would never had believed it myself until I saw the torrent speeds my tech savvy uncle showed off one day... Switched from the then excellent but-has-no-LLU-presence Eclipse with a business product and amazing customer service to the infamous TalkTalk.
Cheaper, and whilst the best BT Wholesale reseller going, it's also faster. Incredible - but true!
Always used Oracle Forms and Reports as the backend of our ERP is 10g. Used JInitiator until 4 years ago as it never ran on Vista so naturally moved to full JRE and it's nothing short of bollocks.
Deploying SCCM 2012 in the next week or so and spent today putting the latest version in the application catalogue rather than deploy as part of the image. Anything to reduce our Java footprint. We're in the throws of moving to .Net for the client and middle layers and it can't come soon enough.
Of course our only Oracle DBA/Java dev left a year ago so moving from 6 u26 to 7 u14 will be fun...
Platform trolling aside, is it any wonder based on their portfolio of products based on Windows Phone compared to say Nokia or even HTC.
Not saying the platform is amazing, or that what Samsung is saying is untrue - but if I was buying a WP device (and I have done) then Samsung would be the last of the vendors to get a look in. No value added.
@ Michael C
Snap. Took out a couple of addresses on Outlook.com and use it for my older Gmail and Hotmail addresses. Haven't looked back in all honesty.
Re: Non-admin accounts, Software Restriction Policies, ....... LINUX!
Disagree with the AC, and agree with most of your post but
"Windows however sacrifices security and needs to be heavily locked down, often requiring third party software at extra cost"
Microsoft changed to a everything off by default stance' a few years ago. In 2012 you can even disable the GUI if/when you don't need it, and back on for occasional admin that's a shit in the CLI.
As Linux improves in accessibility and compatibility MS improves on security it seems. Best of both worlds on both platforms if you ask me.
If you need 3rd party tools to lock down Windows you don't - you need to fire your admin.
For those unaware, MS are not ALLOWED to bundle hence the big monopoly / browser thing a while back, and the N and K editions.
Windows does ship with a text editor, mp3 player / library, zip tool, movie player and terminal emulator.
Win8 RT also has Office.
No where near as comprehensive, powerful or feature rich as Linux apps that are shipped in the box, but then again - where do you get these boxes? Because the end user sure as hell isn't installing an OS themselves are they?
MS can't bundle without being accused of abusing their market position.
So if they do then competitors complain to the regulators, if they don't people like you moan there's little shipped with Windows....
Can't really win this one can they? Unless you have a suggestion to keep both sides happy?
Re: Blue ?
If the goal is to remove all MS software due to some vendetta then fine.
Your point was cost of using Access. My point was that you're talking bullshit as there is a free runtime.
If you hate MS so much (as you clearly do) then no amount of cost or risk analysis is going to satisfy you - as the objective is to change vendor.
But FFS, please stop spreading the FUD and BS around. My thumbs will thank you when having to scroll past your constantly, repetitive, ill-informed, anti-MS bashing on my mobile.
Re: Blue ?
"A friend of mine ported Access DB scripts to LibreOffice Base, it wasn't a huge job, but he saved his company a fortune because they don't need to buy Access."
Um, what? Your friend never heard of the free Access runtime...? Sounds easier and much less time consuming, as well as less risky compared to rewritting to another dev platform. I would suggest cheaper (one copy of Access Vs. Man hours, training and possible bugs being introduced) Very odd choice.
I assume he is as knowledgeable as yourself on Microsoft software Eadon.
Re: MS is feeling BLUE. MS is on DEATH ROW.
Sounds like you need a real Windows Server engineer.
In 14 years of designing, building and supporting enterprise solutions built on WinTel using NT from 3.51 upwards I've never seen or even heard of those issues.
Need someone to build you a reliable benchmark tenplate of 2008 R2 or 2012 let me know. I'll even show you how to patch things properly and put HA in place for your web servers too. (What sort of shop complains about updates not doing IIS and starting it up again immediately, but you can afford the downtime of patching a server? Champagne taste but lemonade money?)
As a fellow Vulture reader I'll throw in a 10% discount on my day rate.
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