392 posts • joined 19 Jun 2009
An up-vote from me. However, I'm surprised the load is that high that it can't be server by 10 DB servers. Even if each request required a write I'd expect 10 DB server to manage between 10000 and 30000 requests a second (the ones I'm working on here certainly can). and even more if it was only reading.
So, if we take the higher write count, assuming they transactions aren't that large we're looking at 1.8 million requests a minute. I find it hard to believe that the British public could put that kind of load on the system for hour after hour (Wiki says that around 70% of access is from the UK and very little at all if we only look at iPlayer)..
I believe the all time peak for hits on the BBC was 1 billion in one day after the 7th of July bombings. So at the rate of transactions/queries outlined above it should only take 9.3 hours of processing time even without caches.
I'm sure it's more complicated than that as some pages require more than one lookup but I'm still unsure why removal of the cache knocked the site out for so long.
PS. The numbers are just rough figures to play with.
@I ain't Spartacus
Good thinking, you've obviously thought this through better than me.
It did however, occur to me that cunning criminals may decide to deploy mice against the elephants. We all know from film that elephants are terrified by mice so that might be a problem.
Re: ... a mammoth 2,000 olfactory receptor genes, ..."
It also seems strange that A Beagle can sniff a rat in a field and go straight to it. Yet the rat, with a supposedly superior sense of smell, doesn't seem to notice the Beagle coming.
Does having more olfactory receptor genes mean that you can locate the source of smells better? All the cats I've had can smell when there's fish but they don't really know where it is. Whereas my dos know where food on the table is even when they can't see it.
Either way I imagine blood hounds and their ilk are fairly safe as even if we can train elephants it seems likely that it's impractical to use them for tracking or in airports for drug searches.
Re: Not about Smut
Isn't the point that not only was the rule not being enforced there were only a couple of scapegoats fired.
So, to take the first example; Me and half the office have been working from home on a Friday despite company policy saying that it's not allowed. Then one day four of us are fired for it despite there being another dozen or so who've been doing the same thing, including a couple of the managers.
Can't say I agree. I've lived and worked in several other European countries and found the health care streets ahead of what we get in the UK.
I could give loads of examples but here's just one. My uncle was diagnosed with skin cancer in the UK, I was abroad at the time and had a cyst. I was operated on within a week as a non-urgent case. My uncle in the UK had to wait three months.
I could mention that in the UK I've had to wait a week or two to see my GP before now, whereas abroad I can always see my doctor the same day if I don't mind waiting.
I can't comment on commonwealth countries as I've never used health service there.
I take your point and fully agree but I'm not sure I'd want to call the NHS a proper health care system. I suppose it is compared to the US though.
Re: let's remember some history
Also interesting to note:
In house government civil servant IT projects were often late or over budget or delivered the wrong thing.
Outsourced government IT projects are often late or over budget or delivered the wrong thing.
So it seems the fault isn't with the in house staff as using the private sector has produced the same, if not, worse results.
It's almost as if the problem is with the government...................
Re: Getting facts right puts things in proportion
While it may be true that 30% of households conatin children I don't think it's true that 70% of the remainder have got an internet connection, so the uptake rate is probably not representative. Another factor to take into account is that we don't know if TalkTalk's customers match the proportion of childless households. It could be that they attract more households with children.
Finally I don't think it's true that only households with children will take this up. Anecdotal evidence suggests Granny will probably do it either because she considers herself not a pervert or because she thinks it's "protecting" her in some unspecified way.
Indeed. It should probably be "influencing or coercing the government through illegal means which cause widespread fear."
So, setting a bomb off is illegal and causes widespread fear, Fathers for Justice climbing Nelson's Column (don't know if they have), may be illegal but isn't causing widespread fear, hence they are not terrorists.
Re: Software didn't change a thing
Apart from score seven goals against Brazil and win the competition..... useless idiots!
To be fair
I don't think all of them are that bad, just enough to make ti difficult for the others.
It probably doesn't help that players don't see playing for England something to aspire to. There also doesn't seem to be any coordinated plan to bring kids through to the top levels. Perhaps there is and I haven't noticed!
I wonder whether they'd have been better off just playing basic football with people in their usual positions and not worrying about what the opposition would do and not worrying about saving players for later.... especially as it turned out there was no later.
I imagine they're starting in Belgium because in one sense it's an easy target. Mobile phone costs are high compared to neighbouring countries. People are also less tied to their provider because most people buy their own phones. The law doesn't permit telcos to give you a free or lower than cost price mobile when you sign up. Mind you that's always being pushed by the telcos.......
It'll be interesting to see what happens, I thought Orange would wipe the floor with Proximus when they launched (Orange became BASE) but they didn't. Initial coverage was bad but it seems OK now. I also wonder how they'll compete against mobile Viking, or whatever it's called.
Re: I prefer the infra-red camera trick
Or cool self to keypad temperature.
On reflection it may be better just to just lightly touch all the keys in the row while only properly pressing the right one.
Re: And what's the real subtext here...?
No, instead let's change it and pat ourselves on the back telling ourselves that we've solved all our problems!
My main point wasn't that adding a "kill switch" is a complete waste of time, my main point is that it doesn't address the biggest problem.
My second point was to question the statistics being offered.
I'll add a new point while I'm here: I wonder how long it will be before miscreants work out how to kill other peoples phones.
Re: And what's the real subtext here...?
Isn't it likely that the "durggies" (if that's who's doing this) are just going to steal something else instead? In which case we've just moved the problem elsewhere.
I'm also a bit curious about these figures (for thefts by brand). Is it really the case that a mugger checks your make of phone first? Isn't a casual thief more likely to nick the phone and then chuck it away later if it gets blocked? Especially outside of the US where Androids are more popular, the thief is going to assume that most phones aren't Apples and not change their behaviour.
Re: kids sizes
Ahhhh, I see your point :-)
On the other hand, one of my kids put his (or hers, let's not publicly blame him) batteries in the fridge to see if they'd come back to life. Words were exchanged so a couple of weeks later I caught him (or her) trying to boil them in a saucepan.
Re: kids sizes
Well, I think parents have been saying things like that for a long time "if I could capture just half your energy".....
However, I see a couple of possible flaws in your idea, sorry.
Firstly, I'm in the house relaxing, the kids are in the garden running around and charging my phone. Sadly I can't actually use my phone because the kids have got it.
Secondly, the kids have got it... need I say more?
Thirdly, The phone would have to be fairly sturdy and waterproof, or is that just my kids?
Re: Perfect Opportunity
So, there's a problem with the American patent system so we should bomb Luxembourg?
Are you, by chance, American yourself?
Re: Lack of options?
I can't say that the latest PS and Xbox offer fewer choices, unless you mean they're new and there aren't as many games for them yet.
A quick survey in the office indicates that kids still prefer to play on consoles and mobile gaming is only when they can't or aren't allowed on the console.
I buy the kids lots of cheap second hand console games and only occasionally the latest release. They seem to like the fact that there's a lot of choice. They know there's a limit on how much time they're allowed on electronic games and I never hear them asking to go on my phone instead of the console!
I don't think you're right
The Spanish chap got his data removed and I don't think Google do much taxable business there either. I think the point of the ruling is that Google are considered to be doing business in the EU and must therefore abide by its rules.
Re: So which is it?
What about the ability to have a wheelchair using avatar, or a blind avatar or one wearing women's clothes? What about one with one arm, or one leg or.........
Personally I can't see what the big deal is, I can't remember being able to play Tomb Raider as a man.
Re: AC Jim 59 customer information was not compromised
I've got to say: Top marks to the bank for asking the kids how they did it and not setting the law on them.
As for 'haters got to hate', are you 12 years old? I disagree with a lot of things and find many things to be quite barmy but that doesn't mean I hate them. The American legal system is one of those barmy things, if you can't see that I suggest you get out in the world a bit more.
Not really as I'm using all of those as they were intended by the government whereas Google et all are exploiting a loophole in a way which clearly wasn't intended.
Re: i agree
My understanding is that the EC doesn't appoint itself so our government has a say (as witnessed by David Cameron saying he doesn't like the current nominee for head of the EC).
According to Wikipedia the EC can only propose legislation and legislation can also be requested by MEPs and the Council of Ministers (representatives of our current government).
MEPs can also dismiss the EC if they want to.
So, any law has to come via the EC (possibly the ECs idea or proposed by MEPs or the Council of Ministers) and then agreed by MEPs and the Council of Ministers.
Which means that any EU tax law has been agreed by MEPs we voted for and our government via the Council of Ministers.
I don't mind subsidising Ireland
but I do mind Google, Apple et al skimming 90% off to a tax "firendly" country (most of the money doesn't stay in Ireland) at the expense of jobs in my country.
Nobody wins a race to the bottom with taxation.
Re: Really simple way of dealing with this....
I would have thought that could be accounted for by limits on the ratio between the cost of the IP and the turnover.
However, I agree in general that a lot of loopholes were put there for legitimate reasons. I think it's actually quite hard to write watertight rules, or at least harder than you'd think.
Sometimes I think it would be better to let the judiciary look at the spirit of the law in these cases. Yes, there are dangers but it seems that there are more if we don't. I think judges can already consider what parliament intended but I don't know how that works with tax law and where the limits are.
So the attack has started
The BBC are reporting that a paedophile and a dodgy politician are trying to get their details removed. I wonder where that information came from.
Of course Google are going to try and whip up opposition with false claims like this. However, I don't see anything in the judgement that means these two examples would have to be removed.
..or as I mentioned last time, in Buxelloises/Brussels zwanze (a mix of a Flemish dialect and French if you like) it would be "tof in den hof" or perhaps just "tof".
By the way, anyone know how to say it Klingon? This looks like the sort of site with readers who'd know......
Re: Crap performance
Thanks for the reply. Nice to know, I will avoid Drupal for busy sites.
Re: Makes a lot of sense
I haven't got a lot of experience with Drupal but I know it's not hard to integrate Joomla with interactive services. Making templates is fairly easy and there are lots of free ones available (even the commercial ones don't cost much). I assume the same is true of Dupal.
Well, now with out-sourcing it will be down for hours because there's nothing in the contract about ejecting disks someone left in a machine (or a USB stick or DVD etc).
You may laugh but I worked somewhere where something like this happened.
He liked his women big, if I remember correctly.
Thinking of the Italian job: There's a world cup coming up, we could cause traffic light chaos and make off with the gold to Argentina in a coach. I'm not aware of the Chinese delivering any gold to Brazil around that time but I've heard footballers get paid in lorry loads of cash so we could grab that instead.
We could call it "The Brazilian Job: It's not what you think" and sell the film rights too.
Would have been a lot cheaper
to keep hold of experienced staff instead of trying to save tuppence on staff costs.
the agreed nomenclature for El Reg was the Supremes. It would be a shame to see that go.
There's a big difference between the advertised speed and what you actually get of an evening. That seems to be a bigger problem in the UK than some other countries I've lived in. On that basis the stats are fairly useless.
To be honest I'm not convinced about the number of "connected" people stats either.
Re: OH Look! There's a great big..........
Well, if it was a space lorry, it probably passed by due to a dodgy GPS update. All we need to do is contact the manufacturers and get them to show the Solar System as a dead end.
I just wanted to mention that the BBC aren't the only organisation to think that just introducing new technology will solve all their problems. I suspect that most of the companies we work for are making the same mistake..... if only we had Big Data all our problems would be solved....... if only we used the cloud........ out sourcing will hit the nail on the head (nail in the coffin more like).......
There seems to be a general unwillingness to actually look at what's causing the company's problem(s).
Obviously, as someone who works in IT, I'm not against new technology I'm just a little bored of all these "emperor's new clothes" attitudes.
Re: When you think about it...
Wasn't there an article a few days ago showing that Twitter's figures for users are, shall we say, a little optimistic?
So, in fact there are probably less than 50 million users who are both real people and active in a way most of us would understand the word active.
Re: quantum keys are a bad idea
Good point. I'm also a little concerned that noise filtering could become a security hole once people work out how to read the data in such a way that it looks like noise effecting the message and not an eavesdropper.
Re: Yet nobody's asked 'why .london instead of .LDN'
Well, I don't like Lilly Allen's work (I did like her Dad's though) nor her effected accent. I just wasn't that taken by your "song" either. Fair do's though for the work put in, hence an up-vote for your second comment.
Re: 24 Years - Nah!
I thought there was going to be some ingenious reference to living next door to Alice.......... but there wasn't......
Re: programmed learning...
He probably does.
...and when we finally get bored and use a spinning rust disk we set the gap between the head and the disk with fag paper.
Yeah, OK to be clear, I meant stopping voice mail systems from not seeing past snooping. I'm not against CLI being used for a variety of other purposes.
Well I've never come across a system which made you enter a PIN when calling from your own phone, neither for mobile nor fixed. I've lived abroad in Europe and it was the same in the countries I lived in there.
Simply stopping the spoofing would be a good step for me as I like the convenience of not having to enter yet another PIN.
Re: Almost nice
At that price, with those specs I'm in. Finally Android as it should be where I'm in charge of the phone and not Google.
Re: RE: This will be completely successful, and will come under in under time and budget.
On top of those problems there's a change of government or a new minister who wants to make a name for themselves. They play around with the requirement, directly or indirectly, then claim they've saved a load of money while the real result if an unusable and expensive mess
Re: But why are we translating it literally?
Nearest I can think of in Bruxellois is "tof" or "tof in den hof" if I think of the feeling rather than a direct translation.
Speaking of which, do the Canadians say "les gosse de le chien"?
Re: But why are we translating it literally?
My understanding is the same: Dogs spend a lot of time licking them so they must be good. The, slightly politer, term used around here is the dog's doo-dars.
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