238 posts • joined 18 Jun 2009
If a customer (read guinea pig) can stump up the cash, I'd guess that the device is going to get used & talked about incessantly. The big G need some affluent human data points, they found them.
Then surprise the masses a bit down line, with a significantly improved version for about 500 units of your chosen denomination, whilst still having a fat margin.
Nokia Car Mode anyone?
apple, this is not innovation.
Interesting that after what many do see as a Trojan horse, Elop is still in Nokia having to deal with the internal fallout he's created.
That being said, the 1020 stands alone if you want an interesting device. It's a good telephone, it's imaging abilities are well documented & the mapping second to none.
If Elop can keep making things like this then he may end up being the only Microsoftee that can deliver flagship mobile hardware that is actually good. That's not happened before and testament to the Nokia of old.
Despite the Lumia growing me, I still have the N8, now repurposed in an underwater case as a camera / timelapse device, we won't see another phone like it after these events and that is a bit sad.
For the days when plugging in extra things to your thing was a thing.
Re: Yahoo has always been the Ryanair of the net
They ruined Flickr too fwiw.
You only have to look at the derth of instapoladroidster apps/sites to see how badly they failed to innovate after the buy out. They had it all there ready to go...
Re: Hmm sounds a bit fish flakey
There is a time and plaice for jokes like this.
That said, small (ish) tanks are fine and will happily support life, with the big if being how the water is looked after.
Never clean the filter sponges under tap water (take a bowl full from the tank instead) and keep the fish hungry, tiny amounts and often is preferable to a cloud of food in the tank too.
The moving stress did likely do the fella fella in however, from the Twitter pic they are (were?) ranchu goldfish which are essentially selectively bred genetic freaks. Handle with care.
OK on the update & arrived about an hour after the announcement.
One turn off turn back on again before the update would actually download.
I too had the extras app update at the same time but had to go looking in store for the additional updates for the Camera update, Beamer, the app folders are a slight waste of time however, as you cant pin everything into them to make a genuine hub for each type service. Train times at specific stations as an example.
The ability to kill background apps from a single screen is probably the most useful part of the update, allied to the camera improvements.
Still, cant knock the phone itself, its a great converged device & getting better it seems.
You 'Design' the stores to the n'th degree and then invent a system so your flock are just staring at their phones.
So could the system be looking up images of shredders 'for something to do' and then putting two and two together later down the line?
TMNT Baddie issue averted already it would appear.
Re: Not expensive at all for what you get!
If it makes you feel better, my Lumia 1020 shattered after a drop that all previous touch phones have handled... A bezel can be annoying but the glass has little hope when it's so close to the impact point in this style of phone.
Streaming no, Streaming Radio yes.
With actual DJ's curating and mixing the content for me, which I can then choose to buy, maybe even sometimes on a 12" disc of hard pressed plastic!
There are so many of these stations online that most bases should be covered from Gershwin to Gabba Techno.
A stream of unmixed singles wont inspire many, hearing a DJ play a forthcoming tune thats unavailable for a while will lead to more sales, and physical sales at that when the release date arrives.
If someone says they love music & only has downloads I couldnt believe them, I for one, must have a tangible asset when it comes to spending my hard earned on beats.
Remember when as gadgets got better you could plug more things in, connect in different ways, plays all discs etc...
Devices ability to do things are being devolved to enforce walled gardens and suit advertisers, seems a bit rubbish to me. Plus I'd have to duck tape every camera.
Has it got a memory card slot still?
All started by apple I might add...
Re: they really have nothing
Looks more like a Sony Tablet S than an i thing.
Handy flap on the Yoga it is.
Re: For all those that slam Apple
When apple can make things like Pureview, then I'll stop slamming them. Tricky to innovate with just a glue gun these days...
Re: Resale value
To be fair that's actually quite innovative.
Re: Resale value
Itunes, thats whats wrong.
A Machine Built For Obscene Profit
Is what all apple designs look like to me. Shiny on the outside, cheap corners cut on the inside.
Never a better metaphor really, thinking on it.
Buy another one, rather than fix this finely crafted and slapped together with a glue gun 2k device of mine...
Wondered why my EE locked mobile briefly displayed the O2 logo last week.
Re: Another comparison
In fairness the Merc still comes with a CD player I'd imagine.
As to the key point, this device is the equivalent of a 'designer' desk lamp.
Re: 20+ Inches of case...
Yes it's design over function, apple internal drives break a lot, makes total sense to dispense with them, etc etc..
I like the ability to rip audio/video myself and my key point still stands.
It's a big piece of kit that will not be moved regularly and for the money, apple should be making their own hyper reliable internal drives that blend into the design unobtrusively, if you need it or not.
Then again, all you downvoters use itunes don't you?
Who am I trying to kid, carry on.....
20+ Inches of case...
Yet no room for a CD drive....
Some 'design' right there...
Re: Is it a bird, is it a plane?
My first thoughts when I saw the revolution that apple have imbued to their clients was Symbian Belle.
Yet it apple still doesnt have proper mapping, a memory card slot, USB OTG, a camera that's not run of the mill, or even proper drop testing...
iOS anything? no thanks,.... N8 still the one, 1020 at a push.
So supposing this happens, placed correctly and in sufficient numbers the panels could be made to resemble a pupil. Therefore turning the moon into A MASSIVE SPYING EYE IN SPAAACE!
Or have I got my acronyms mixed up?...
I'd go as far as REVOLUTIONARY!
Seeing as with Symbian you can skin your phone and icons with alternate designs easily, Im highly surprised apple does not offer similar, being that their all revolutionary and that.
Feel the white hot flames of innovation!
I'd have an 808 now if I could have bought an offical uk one, this shall do nicely.
Its the raw unique tech i like, the bundled OS is not really a deal breaker.
Looks to me like proper Nokia Flagship phones are back (shortly)!
Re: Whatever you do, don't show the Win 8 scrreen!
I think you are confusing moving optics (zoom?) and fixed focus.
Fixed focal length is a very differentent thing to fixed focus. No high end phone camera is fixed focus as far as I'm aware, that would be twatty. Probably best we leave hyperfocal distance for another day though. Feet are essentially your zoom with a fixed length lens.
The inherent quality of the glass/plastic the sensor/film is looking through is where you get bang for buck. Certainly makes a bigger difference to images than any of the other technical points mentioned. Who is that Zeiss fellow anyway..
That aside, if EOS is a combination of pureview 1&2 then I'm going to happily put up with WP.
At the end of this..
Wouldn't it be funny if apple ended up paying 30% in a deal.
Re: Not what I was waiting for
Exactly my predicament... funny how the N8 is still! the most versatile converged device.
That's the rub though, the amount of 'choices' apple make carte blanche for their clientele is starting to bite them on the arris.
I don't think they can change a drilled in ethic this strong overnight. Trouble is they need too.
Bit like Lewis leaving McLaren, you gotta depart the jobsian way but stay close to home kinda thing. Or just stop shlitigating yourself out of all credibility and put a memory card slot in a phone.
Bit cheeky but I think #susanalbumparty tipped the balance.
They want it!
Streaming audio giving more regular hiccups over the last few weeks too, usually signifies a snafu somewhere in their network. This story popping up at least means I can stop getting angry with my router.
One thing for certain...
The first i one will be shit, followed by a miraculously revolutionary version 2...3....
4 will be particularly cool I hear...
etc etc, no thanks.
So vape it then...
If it really is just a bit of rock...
Don't buy it myself, at least go for a closer sniff... might save drilling holes, you never know.
Arm the laser!
Interesting certainly, and an uneasy feeling, looks skeletal.
Tho that could be the beer and my incomprehensible desire for ribs.
it is still Friday right?
The phones may be nice but their still mee too devices in a flat slab kinda sense.
Save for a rumor of full fat PureView coming I'd given up trying to want a WP Nokia.
Time is short it seems...
That's the smell of panic as the lasts of the RDF burns off the brand, time for some running around in circles at infinite loop.
I have no suggestion as to how they fix this.
Re: Please Jobs
He started it!
Beggars belief really, apple customers must surely start to be wondering if their choice of shiny, really warrants coming from a company who are in reality, just a saccharine soaked marketing mouthpiece with a penchant for excessive pecuniary.
Fuck apple longtime & not in a nice way, they need to find reality if they want to halt the slide their currently accelerating down.
I mean they look nice (Like a very big Sony X1060 Walkman if you ask me) but yeah RT & Win8 is just not cricket.
Still cant fathom how they could make something so unintuitive.
I blame apple.
Do people really need telling that apple mobile products are just wallet raping hobbled devices?
Far far to limited to be called a 'smart' device in my eyes, its only smart is taking the 30% cut so the marketing team can keep the cool cannon firing.
iTwats gotta love em.
Re: Result skewage
In app ads...
The ones that are purposely placed on the screen to garner the most accidental taps?
Click fraud essentially and the elephant in the room with these stupid numbers.
Still not Opera is it...
Not today, likely never, thanks.
Bring it back quietly I say & make the 808 available easily in the UK. Better that than sullying Nokia hardware with Android in my eyes. Or an N8 eqivalent with Pureview, that would sell too.
Its clear why Elop did what he did, cant help thinking though that even if the Symbian devs were still fired there was enough life left in Belle for another flagship device or two .
Maybe then when WP is actually up to speed with the competition, people can see a clear & simple upgrade(?) to the latest WP device, that does just what the S^3 devices can do right now and have been doing for the last 2 years!
Good news for now....
Until the next lawyer finds a hole and it will start over again.
You Americans like litigation tooooo much!
Well there's a turn up, I wonder if the devices will have expandable memory and normal SIM cards?
Must be pissing themselves, I've been given a cheap RC yacht for Christmas that's got better lines than this. Tho in black it at least might look a bit meaner.
So essentially it's a floating pile of i devices with a mirrored bow, makes it marginally more useful I suppose...
Rumour I hear...
Looks like an ipad.
Smell that innovation!
Photographs regardless how digitally mangled will always be somebody's.
Essentially fraping your own userbase on content that harbors personal feeling is just stupid.
Flickr has it right, even if it's not cool because you have to pay for it.
Delightful! Like people didnt see this coming from the off..!?
Just as Flickr have started pulling the stick out of their proverbial too. That said, Flickr could do without a megadump of hipster chintz (seems from what Ive seen to be the alt repository of choice), there are enough eyebleeding HDR images already as it is.
Flickr had all this in the palm of its hand for years, heres hoping for a resurgence.
apple cant get the content...
As the studios wont let them have it, hardly surprising given the 30% kerching machine that is itunes, why would a company want to make it that easy for a competitior to make money...?
It wont be anything other than a giant wall mounted ipad, with stupid connectors, friction stir welded into permanent never to replaced place.
No thank you.
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