700 posts • joined 18 Jun 2009
Contract law is simple(ish) - an unfair contract is not legal.
Obviously, interpreting it as fair or unfair is a different matter, but taking away or penalising the right to complain seems to contravene basic consumer protection.
It's "Most valuable to civilisation"
Not, "most impact".
On the origin is probably more valuable than any religious text (Bible, Qur'an etc.) purely because it's neither directive nor prescriptive - it documents a process whereby it demonstrates how closely related we are to each other (and higher apes, other animals).
Religious texts separate people, sexes, ideas, create the concept of thought crimes, hell, vicarious redemption where you don't need to apologise to the victim, just the judge.
While we obviously wouldn't want to model civilisation on Darwinian evolution any more than reading Animal Farm means you agree that it what should also happen.
>>Lemme tell you what the problem with that is.
No, lemme tell you what the problem with you is.
Drugs are great, I mean, really, really good, they can make you feel amazing, this is why lots of people do them, and the difference between getting smack at a grimy den with vaguely clean needles and doing a few of lines of coke in the club is about £150 - it's not a drugs problem, it's a demographics problem, if all you have in your life that makes you feel good is drugs, that's all you'll do.
When smack is cheaper than beer society has a problem - and it's not caused by the drugs, they are just a symptom, attempting to regulate a symptom will never work.
Personally I don't do (illegal) drugs, but that's because I'm busy doing other stuff, I do occasionally get fucked up on beer but only when I can have a bit of a lie in the next day, on the occasions when I drop off a sandwich and a couple of quid to a homeless person do I wonder if the money will go towards some kind of pharmaceutical recreation because they have nothing better to do, yea maybe, but I wouldn't want to deny them their only pleasure.
Re: OK, I can't follow this one.
I suspect it's just because there's very little pay off, even on vulnerable systems, the potentially most vulnerable say a website cgi would need to be running bash, and it's not a very common thing these days, if there's cgi it's more likely to be a language designed for cgi.
And of course, the more obscure (e.g. F5 admin interface) the less likely that it will be visible to all on the 'net.
The down side is that the big systems (like RHEL) will be patched up quickly and everybody will stop panicking, and the more obscure systems will be left unpatched and become part of more complex multi-stage attacks (e.g. packet fragmentation vulnerability through a firewall, subsequently attacking a router admin interface via shellshock which creates echo ports etc.).
Re: >> Thin, mostly plastic objects are snappy.
>>They were no more shatter proof than the cheap chinese rulers you'd get at Poundland
Actually, I think they were better than the cheap ones, but putting "Shatterproof" meant every kid smashing them as hard as they could against things, it took about a year, but they changed the word to "Shatter Resistant" (same font) - true story.
I tried to log in and bid on a couple of Macs, and a screen (last minute snipe) couldn't get in, eventually when I did, the auction was already finished and someone won a 23" Mac screen, a dual quad xeon Mac and an old powermac for £24 someone got a bargain.
Re: A year left to run on the EE contract?
In retrospect, it's not a surprise, O2 left first, being the smallest supplier of contracts to P4U, basically losing out in most contract comparisons, that left EE and Vodafone, directly competing against each other , both having to effectively discount their contracts with P4U skimming the commission, if they wanted P4U to sell a contract then they would have to undercut the other, EE was pricing Vodafone out so Vodafone left, with EE no longer competing with anyone they had no reason to stay.
Vodafone said "Phones 4U was offered repeated opportunities to propose competitive distribution terms to enable us to conclude a new agreement, but was unable to do so." I assume that the discounts that Vodafone was asked to give (which contributed towards the £100M profit) was too much for them?
Carphone Warehouse I suspect now will be in the same state, with the phone (contract) suppliers being in a strong position to offer only smaller discounts, if they don't agree then they will pull out, while they might hoover up some shops and staff from P4U, there's absolutely nothing stopping EE/O2/Voda pulling out - and if they did it with P4U, there will have to be a good reason for not doing it with CW.
When there's blood on the streets, buy property.
The turmoil in the markets means that there's a bunch of people already making money, when stocks go down, you'll find those that reversed bet the stocks rubbing their hands.
A "yes" vote will create even more turmoil and uncertainty, regardless of any positive or negative outcome there will be the same bunch of people making a lot of money, a "no" vote will be more stable perhaps - and so some who don't care about devolution for the people will still be hoping for it.
There will be winners and losers here, but I bet a penny to a pound, some people will gain a lot - and it wont necessarily be the average person in the street.
Re: What's in a name?
>>"Britain" is a corruption of the Norman French "Bretagne"
Before the old French (Bretaigne I think you mean) there was the Latin "Britannia or Brittania" being earlier, it's probable the Latin influenced the old French.
>>Ireland's never been described as any sort of Britain
Ptolemy wrote about "little Britain" in Almagest
Aristotle wrote about "British Isles" consisting of two islands "Albion" and "Ierne"
Re: What's in a name?
>>The 'United Kindom [sic] of Great Britain' reflected the Union of the kingdoms of England and Scotland in 1707.
<erroneous pedant correction mode>
No, "The Kingdom of Great Britain" was created with union of the Kingdoms of England (what is now England and Wales) with Scotland in 1707 the "United" was added when we joined with Ireland in 1801 when it became "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland", then subsequently (in 1922) Southern Ireland "left" and we were renamed to "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"
"Great Britain" is the old term for the large contiguous island, Ireland being the previous "little Britain" (and you thought is was just a show?) "Kingdom" is appropriate because of all the associated islands (not just "Great Britain").
In summary "Union" bit relates to joining with Ireland, not Scotland - it was retained to reflect the Union with Northern Ireland;
i.e. to use brackets;
"The United Kingdom of (Great Britain and Northern Ireland)" not
"The (United Kingdom of Great Britain) and Northern Ireland"
</erroneous pedant correction mode>
While I'm at it, your pendant mark-up is logically inconsistent ;)
Re: 3D printing of plastic is not going to save anyone
>>but we prototyped a float-valve on a 3-D printer. It worked for a whole day before falling apart.
ABS or PLA?
We are starting to print with carbon fibre epoxy now, amazing strength and very resilient, in fact zero G could mean printing with materials that gravity otherwise buggers up - zero G isn't a problem, it's an opportunity :D
Re: microwave oven–sized??
It's the microwave oven sized thing in the front, not the massive clean box in the background.
Less than half the missions to Mars have been successful, the ISS needs 18 hours a day maintenance to keep it up, you might want transporters, replicators, tractor beams and doors that go shwoop shwoop when they open but unless we prove launch, landing, habitation we won't be sending people to Mars, we'll be sending corpses to Mars.
It's been over 40 years since any human has been any further than low-earth orbit, that was for 12 days, do you think that an 18 month round trip including landing on a planet with barely any atmosphere and taking down enough fuel to escape it's gravitational pull anything but science fiction at the moment?
China have the good idea of going back to the Moon, maybe even a moonbase in the next decade (or two) they will be shipping habitation pods and fuel there, once it's proven for the Moon, Mars will become a rational next step (or maybe Europa).
Re: Why is Win 8 and Win 8.1 seperated?
The difference between 8 and 8.1 is more semantic or at least cosmetic, the boot to desktop (unless you have touch) makes it feel different from the switch on, start button, new apps etc.
But the same thing is true for Vista SP2 and Windows 7, Win 7 is basically Vista SP3, same code base (Vista is 6.0 Win 7 is 6.1), 7 just had some apps updated (IE), some of the admin pages moved (drivers) and some bits added for touch.
It makes sense to separate 8.0 and 8.1 if it makes sense to separate Vista and 7
Re: Why have a license at all?
>>it went from a country where the police were known for not carrying guns to a country where more and more of its police carry weapons.
Actually, less police carry weapons now than before, back in the 80's firearms authorisation was reduced, from a peak of around 17% of police carrying weapons (London) this has reduced to less than 10%, in fact only 7% are trained, and not all of them carry weapons all the time - this is the Met Police, the largest police force in the world, other British police forces have significantly less (NI excluded obviously).
>>At some point England became afraid of its citizens.
Guy Fawkes is one of our heroes, we know how to keep our government in line, do you?
Re: If you stop ranting...
>>better vetting of those who wish to have gun licenses and bring an improvement to the overall security of gun ownership
Perhaps you could suggest addressing problems that actually exist? Gun crime from licensed owners in the UK is so rare that when it does happen it's front page news, I think the large background checks, 1 to 1 interviews of family members, access to medical notes, gun safe inspections, credit checks etc. are pretty comprehensive, that, coupled with a requirement of "because I want a gun" being insufficient justification.
Re: Logic fail
>>As i understand it, he _can't_ be given a custodial sentence for his alleged crime. _He has already voluntarily locked his silly Ass(tm) up for two years for an offence for which he couldn't be locked up_. Yes, he's really that scared of the Feds.
I'm pretty sure that you _can_ be locked up for rape in Sweden.
My view is simple, he should face the interview and (potential) charges in Sweden, the alleged victims deserve that much.
The whole extradition thing is a separate issue, I suspect that the US (and if the alleged leaked "pending" extradition is true), then perhaps Assange will have an opportunity to validate the actions of people like Maning and Snowdon, imagine the outcry against the US if there is some conspiracy, imagine the US trying to cover it up, FOI would reveal all kinds of wrong doing.
I guess what I'm saying is that if the US government is playing a game, Assange should have the courage of his convictions and play it, if they are not, then perhaps he should turn himself in anyway.
Easy for me to say? absolutely! but then I've never asked anyone to take all the risk and act against their government (even if it's for the greater good).
I suspect he was actually providing a proxy service, providing access to copywrite material is significantly different to merely using a proxy.
This is why Google don't provide links to (some) torrents, but it's still in the fine line between holding material you didn't pay for and giving access to the same said material, with a vaguely competent lawyer he should be fine, for a start they would have to prove loss or damage, you can't be guilty of speeding merely by having a car capable of speeding.
Re: even if he did...
>>On the other hand, in the UK your rights are not specifically codified anywhere, so if bad actors want to pretend those rights don't exist there's nothing for you to point to to say they do in fact exist.
The US constitution is built upon British documents, Magna Carta for a start, and it's no coincidence that the first ten amendments are called the "Bill of Rights", they are called that because they are based on the British "Bill of Rights" from the 1600's, you're just a bunch of copycats from an upstart British colony.
Besides, how valid is your constitution when you have sedation acts which means the government can do whatever they like to you if you act against them?
Re: even if he did...
>>In principle, maybe. However, the USA has a written constitution. The UK has nothing to protect against governments making it up as they go along(*), and the hereditary principle in no way improves that situation.
Ummm... the UK has a massive constitution, from Magna Carta onwards, it's extremely developed, mature and enshrined for centuries, Bill of Rights, Claim of Rights, all the numerous provisions, statutes and acts, which by the way the US constitution (or "Constitution for Dummies" as it's known as) is based upon.
Re: aware of the benefits of 4K
>>Just because you can't see the individual pixels doesn't mean they have no benefit. If you are too far away to see an individual pixel on a screen or dot in a print, you end up perceiving the average result of those pixels/dots. A higher resolution results in an average that is more accurate to the original source.
Yes, and no, the interpolation/antialias effect you're describing is very real, however, for this implied averaging to be relevant you must be able to achieve an effect not possible on their own, as pixel size itself is no longer relevant (as discussed above) then it's only colour and intensity, with a 24bit (True Colour) palate it's about 16 million colours, given normal humans can "only" identify approximately 10 million colours it's actually irrelevant if the screen is more accurate - normal humans can't tell the difference between 24bit (true colour) and anything higher (i.e. deep colour).
I say "normal humans" because people (women and other people with two X chromosomes) who have an extra cone (tetrachromia) can see more colours (yellow-orange as I recall), but that's quite rare, and given that it's an extra cone (not just better fidelity) it wouldn't be an even colourspace so interpolating for a tetrachromat wouldn't be the same i.e. the normal 24 bit (8x8x8) couldn't simply be boosted to 27bit (9x9x9) as you're simply boosting fidelity on the traditional cones, you'd actually need to add a channel for the extra cone (8x8x8x8), which means you'd need to film in four colours and have that extra channel on the pixel.
So, yes, absolutely - an increase in pixels to make up for for low bit depth can be useful, but not really relevant for 24bit displays.
Re: aware of the benefits of 4K
>>Ah, yes the old, "can't see the pixels argument"
Hmmm... maybe I should have explained more simply, let me summarise, then feel free to go back and re-read the technical bits;
As soon as you can't make out the individual pixels, any further increase in resolution has no benefit;
For 20/20 vision (good vision) looking at a 1080p/2K screen at any distance over 2x the height of the screen you can't identify individual pixels, so if you're any further away from the screen than twice the height of the screen it is physically impossible to tell if it's a 2k or 4k screen.
So, for a PC monitor where the distances are closer, a 4K screen might be practical, for a home TV, unless you're really close, or it's really big, 4K could be pointless, note - Sony (who produce a lot of digital cinema equipment) have done several studies on this in relation to digital cinema, but the principles are the same (and with very big screens viewed at significant distances it's a little easier to understand).
@El Reg - why not do an article on this? with pictures and everything? 4k is a bit Emperors new clothes for home video (bragging rights aside).
Re: aware of the benefits of 4K
You're almost definitely wrong, and let me explain why, as this is simple physics/biology.
What is normal range? lets say "good vision" is 20/20 (some people have better, say 20/10), but lets run with "good" - 20/20 vision is a visual acuity of about 60 pixels per degree of vision this means that at a distance of 1.5x the height your total view is 37 degrees, on a 2k (1080p) screen that's 30 pixels - ie. even below average eyesight can see the pixels, on a 4k screen that's 45 pixels per degree and unless you have "good" (above average) eyesight you probably won't be able to pick out the pixels.
So..... if you look at a 1080p (2k) screen from a distance of twice the height you end up with about 60 pixels per degree, in other words 20/20 vision cannot pick out the pixels. for a 4k screen that's 90 pixels per degree - even 20/10 vision would in reality struggle to identify a difference as it's on the limit for 20/10 vision (the best vision ever measured is around 20/8).
60 pixels per degree is a theoretical maximum for 20/20 vision, more correctly that is if each pixel is a contrast i.e. could you identify a line of one pixel; but films don't consist of one pixel lines, it's more likely to be "moving pictures", so the ability it identify a static pixel doesn't really mean much in practicality.
Both physics and I agree that you're wrong, either that or you have the vision of a hawk (20/2).
Re: Religion... and the rest
>>People will ALWAYS find an excuse to kill each other, whether it is religion, politics, culture, tribalism, football etc. etc.
>>Take one away and something else will fill the void.
While that might be true on some level, wouldn't it be nice not not to have this appeal to authority, or this division of people, for example if you couldn't say "God gave us this land, simply believing in this flavour of God means this is mine" or "My god is better than your god".
Could something fill the excuse void as well as gods do?
Re: Stop deluding yourself with silly propaganda
>>They (being general) will do just as they are told no matter how stupid the requirement is. They won't question the clear stupidity of their superiors simply because their society does not work that way
While this is true to a great extent (from personal experience) - this cultural difference doesn't change the fact that there's lots of smart independent thinkers, put it another way, there's more elite graduates (passing with firsts, plus multiple degrees etc.) every year in India than there are graduates (of any type) in the US.
This is just a numbers game, its a big country, you're more likely to meet the average Indian graduate than an elite one, but often the elite graduates aren't staying in low-level engineering jobs long, and many do stay in India where its lucrative for an above average achiever.
Ahhh... the old "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" misunderstanding, just in the sky instead of under the water.
Has nobody seen Pitch Black?
I ain't going in there.......
@I ain't Spartacus
>>I want to play it again. I'm amazed no-one's released it for iOS / Android, or just as a Flash game online.
One word.... MAME
Re: Define "drone"
Drone is rather a generic term (but quite accurate in it's use as a generic term), if you're looking for something more specific there's two (overlapping) categories;
UAV - Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (the umbrella drone term)
RPV - Remotely Piloted Aircraft (closer to the control you mean)
But of course neither of these terms are fully satisfactory in answering your question, because within these there's;
MITL - Man in the loop (piloting)
MOTL - Man on the loop (destination waypoint with viewing, simple drop, return to base functions)
FA - Fully Automated (considered as issue orders and return, but may include abort functionality)
But these terms could be a bit fuzzy depending on the system in place, and even cover multiple definitions, it sounds like in this case it was a MITL/RPV drone.
This looks cool
At the moment I have a Pi with GPS/magnetometer/Sonar so it knows where it is, and I'm getting a servo board which will feed into my dedicated flight controller (KK), but a single board that does all this will be cool.
If this board is going to be an all-in-one solution (flight control and location/direction) it will be great, but depends on how much work the Pi is going to do (and how much IO is still available), I hope the board is going to do all the flight control (specifically stabilisation, level, altitude hold etc.) and leave all the CPU to do the actual navigation, operate a camera etc. (and with Rx input it should be fantastically controllable for manual override).
Price is going to be the biggie, a KK flight controller is £20, servo board £20, GPS £25, magnetometer £2, sonar £2 so $145 for an integrated bit of kit is good, not bite your hand off good, but probably the best bit of "all-in-one" for the price.
Re: I see this as a baaaaaad sign.
There's good and bad in this, and I suspect it's more psychological than practical.
Cheaper buy-in you might not want to spend $700 on one share but $350 for 5 feels better, % fluctuations don't appear as bad; a $70 drop on a $700 share is bad, but a $7 drop on a $70 share feels better (even if it means the same).
Re: I don't understand this
Before, the early ones were expensive bits of kit costing several thousand, but over the last years they have dropped substantially, my DIY quad with GoPro was less than £500 all in and is much better than those first quads, now you can pick up a quad with camera for barely £45 (my cheapest quad was less than £20 and massive fun).
It's like cars, when only a few had them, licences were not considered, once available to the masses it was deemed required.
Re: I've heard that before...
Totally agree with everything you said, except "We are alone. Any civilisation even slightly more advanced than us could populate the galaxy in 10,000,000 years" even the slowest SciFi fuelled craft requires close to light speeds to get anywhere.
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
- Douglas Adams
So imagine there is another civilisation, imagine it exists in a similar time-frame to us, imagine it built spacecraft several factors faster than anything we have ever created, imagine it even happened to point it at our solar system, imagine the craft survived decades of space travel, would we even know? with 100,000,000,000 galaxies each with 100,000,000,000 stars I wouldn't be surprised if some could have life, and further not surprised if some actually could/had/will have life, some of that life could even be massively intelligent, and having a whale of a time in it's own bit of the universe, hell, I get lost in Tescos (and have a particular problem finding the Bovril), just because we may never find it, doesn't mean we are alone.
My circumstances are different to yours so, whether is is a recommendation or not is debatable.
Second hand 2U Case - £20 + £15 delivery
(Came with six 3.5" SATA bays, a pair of dual core 280 Opterons, 2Gb RAM, GigE)
16Gb RAM £25 (delivered)
RAID card £20
2Gb flash card and IDE adaptor (has this already but <£10)
6x 2Tb drives (the expensive bit!) - always buy NAS disks new £330
Using NAS4Free and ZFS/Raid-Z gives me ~10Tb of protected storage, I'm not using the hardware RAID from the card because it doesn't support such large volumes, and if fact 2Tb is the largest drive it supports. I could lie and tell you it was simple to put together, but I had a real mare with the advanced format drives (they were quite new at the time, I suspect that NAS4Free has better awareness of them now).
Then for the media centres, I use Sumvision MKV (simple SMB browsing), which works fine, plays on iPad (using VLC), and various PC's, I use a powerline adaptor for the projector in the shed when I do "drive in movie BBq" nights.
The clue is in the article
>>Come on - what about telling us about the sort of work loads this beast will deal with.
"Magnus spends most of its time on radio astronomy and geoscience problems"
.uk vs .gb
Do you mean Northern Ireland? I don't believe it has a TLD, so if there was a .gb then I assume a TLD would have to be created for it, .uk makes sense so at leats it has an address, unless of course you use .ie, which kind of makes sense unless you start talking about offices in NI which relate to the UK, like the Northern Ireland office , which sits under a .gov.uk, where .gov.gb wouldn't make sense (apart from the physical inconsistency, where's the governmental responsibility implied?).
So, given a choice between .gb and .uk, .uk makes more sense, that said, no reason why there couldn't have been a .gb and a new .te TLD
The assumption that he could save lives is faulty
Mobile phones used while driving undoubtedly cause deaths indirectly by distracting people (and they are well documented to do so).
#1 How many lives are saved by mobile phones? did he disrupt someone driving to hospital? cut off someone calling emergency services by the side of the road during a heart attack?
#2 If someone is using a phone while driving and gets cut off by a jammer, are they more likely to be even more distracted (looking at their phone, attempting to redial etc.)
#3 If they attempt to use it but it's unusable will they spend more time, be more distracted attempting do dial or switching it off an on etc.
While I see what he was trying to do, the legal issues mean nothing to me, but I'm not convinced that it was actually constructive and it seems to me that it was potentially more destructive and dangerous, causing more distractions that he was preventing.
I'd fully support someone using a jammer in the cinema/library/museum/prison etc. - the random beeps and bright white texting is really annoying in the cinema (let alone actually taking a call), but I also think people should be made aware their phones won't work so it doesn't confuse them (and in case they have a critical call to take, in which case they can choose not to watch/disturb my film)
Judging by the upvote/downvote ratio, you don't "get it", I think it's been explained, but I'll summarise;
This is a Pi project, not arduno - regardless of the competition in the "small processor board" (such as the excellent arduno/beagle etc.) the Pi has managed to be a full computer, with excellent general purpose connectivity (SD/HDMI/USB) which you can just boot up into a Linux desktop, this allows the most novice of users to get their toes wet. The thing that separates it from (say) a nano iTX or other small PC is that it's also got well thought out GPIO, which is astoundingly easy to use, loads of easy to read python. But the icing on the cake is the $25 pricetag (although we all know it's a bit more than that).
The excitement that Pi brings isn't because of what it's capable of (individual projects can do the same) it's the fact that Pi is "mainstream" - ordinary people know what it is, this article isn't an instructive article for bit twiddlers (like you), it's another "look what else Pi does", it's here on the register not to instruct geeks (like the majority of ElReg readers are), but to show the geekdom world how we are going mainstream
The whole point of Pi is that kids pick it up and we generate excited kids, and enthuse a new generation of computer literate people - the 80's and 90's were fertile with teenagers cutting code, Amiga copper and blitter programmers having fun, who then went on to various techie/IT jobs, but the generation after didn't have the same exposure, just check the CV's of UK IT people, the majority are 30's through to late 40's.
Give someone a fish, and they will eat for a day, teach them to fish and they will eat for a lifetime.
Give someone a PS3 and they will shoot drug dealers for hours after school, give them a Pi they might well get excited about technology end up with an IT job which improves the industry and gets them a good income.
(not quite as snappy, but you get the idea)
Re: re:"*If you want contributions to the hacking of electronics;"
>>What colour box do you think it's contained in then?
Please tell me this was a reference to the HHGTTG.
Re: Should have told protesters where to go
>>As a private citizen he made a modest donation to a campaign for reasons he did not make public and presumably had no intention of disclosing except for donation laws.
So imposing his bigotry is fine if you keep it a secret?
Lobbying for slavery to be re-introduced is OK, if you don't tell anyone?
Remember, this is not merely a "view" he tried to get the law changed.
>>And none of which has anything to do with making a web browser. He should have told the protesters to go bother someone else.
Yep, his views have nothing to do with a browser, but why is his view relevant to gay people either? unless he's actually gay why is his view relevant to the world?, nobody is forcing him to marry a man.
His protest and the activists protests follow the same form.
Fundamentally, we have free speech, we can also (to some extent) vote with our money and consumer feet.
Brendan Eich, paid money in to lobby so that a sector of society shouldn't have certain rights, I support his right to do this 100%, but free speech doesn't come with a "- and can't be criticised for it" suffix, I can't force him to think differently, that's his choice, and his choice to attempt to impose his view on others.
The protesters against Brendan Eich, were doing exactly the same, instead of paying to have a sector of society denied rights, they boycotted (and encouraged others to boycott) a product he was subsequently associated with, I support this action 100% too.
Neither action or protest was illegal, but was one protest disproportionate to the other? lets compare them; a man lost a job (and may find it difficult to get another in the same salary range), that's a bit shitty, he attempted to prevent an entire sector of society from getting legal recognition of love, and (some may say) more importantly legal protection, pension sharing, next of kin etc. if it was disproportionate, perhaps he lost a little as a result of attempting to take away a lot from others?
Re: Could heartbleed be in any way related to the windigo botnet?
>>SSH != SSL
OpenSSH (which comes as standard with many vendor supplied OS's) uses part of OpenSSL (specifically libcrypto) however, OpenSSH doesn't use TLS for it's sessions (unlike HTTPS, which TLS is one option and within that TLS heartbeat is optional).
So while some versions of SSH can use bits of crypto from OpenSSL, the actual transport itself (the vulnerable bit) is pure OpenSSL TLS heartbeat.
Re: This didn't occur to me immediately
>>but it only affects the client if you connect to a compromised server.
Not exactly, and you may not even be able to detect if a server had been "compromised" - say for example the private keys had been copied off, it probably hasn't left any footprint.
Also, if someone had captured the traffic between a client and a server and then retrieves the private key the entire conversation is open to subsequent disclosure (which would probably include authentication details).
If you have a network capture then get the keys you have the content, if you get the keys then have access to (or create/redirect to) a transparent proxy (which is far easier than you may expect) then you have the content.
So, the safest option is to immediately shut down, reset all your authentication details, upgrade, generate new certificates, restart, note, don't make the same mistake as many and just generate new certificates from the old keys, generate new keys as well (i.e. don't use the same CSR).
The thing is with this one is that millions of servers could have been harvested for keys for months/years, with those keys they could have been snooping at the contents (such as passwords) for months/years, how often do you change your (supposedly secure) credentials? securing the sites won't change the fact they have your credentials - I'd suggest changing Amazon etc. passwords ASAP.
Re: Excel enables the next Holocaust!
>>So how did Stalin and Mao do better without the devil punch card machines?
Stalin was "killing" from 1927 - 1953 (26 years) as opposed to WW2 which was broadly 6 years.
The majority of Stalin's targeted killing was regional (people on specific land) and very easy to identify.
Mao was a similar story, there was no specific "target", just people on land.
I'm not sure whether you intended it or not, but you're emphasising my point of the post, the machines IBM supplied enabled accurate targeting and filtering of people integrated into an existing community with specific traits - unlike Mao and Stalin, if you honestly don't see the difference between the implementation of targeting sectors of society using technology and states that treated all their people as animals then you have no appreciation for history.
Re: Too early for a Godwin?
@Robert Long 1
You seem to be conflating using "an aircraft" with "machines specifically designed to enable the final solution".
Don't get me wrong, I do understand what you're saying, load of people traded with the Nazis before, during, between and after the wars (The Bush family made their fortune from trading war bonds and other financial instruments, the presidential race may not have been possible without it), but there's a huge difference (or possibly a fine line, depending how you look at it) between war profiteering and explicitly supplying a ground breaking technology specifically designed to enable extermination of sectors of society.
Put another way, if this technology (on which IBM is founded) was used for constructive social issues, say a national insurance or healthcare system, don't you think that IBM would have held it up as a pioneering tech? I'm not even talking about the relative right or wrongs of the system, merely the fact it's not discussed, because technologically, it was an achievement, on which IBM is founded, it's not just the money they made, it's the central database, standard interfaces, correlated data, centralised de-duping, automatic data processing, all those properties that define a mainframe.
I've got absolutely no axe to grind with respect to the American involvement in war, I just find it interesting that the subject is avoided, and given the impact of IBM the concepts on which mainframes are based, It seems to me relevant history.
Too early for a Godwin?
I wonder why it is that many articles and discussions about the history of IBM (and mainframes) avoid the subject of their part in the holocaust?
While it's true they deny an awareness of the use of their counting machines, it's a matter of record that they did supply the punch card census machines (mainly through Dehomag, the IBM subsidiary in German, and Watson Business Machines in the US).
There's the financial impact to IBM, they made a lot of money from Nazi Germany before and during WW2, then there's the technological importance of drawing all information to a central place for processing (which is in essence "mainframe" technology).
Surely you can discuss these two crucially important historical milestones without implicitly approving of it, or is it really that insignificant? or is the subject avoided purely because of a "ooh.. we better not discuss that mentality?"
"the US government’s withdrawal could leave a dangerous vacuum"
After withdrawal, there was no danger, just an odd farting sound.
"the US government’s withdrawal could leave a dangerous vacuum"
I had one of those once, turned out to be a loose wire in the plug.
Re: It's the words: stupid.
>>Therein lies the success of the propagandists denying AGW.
I don't think it's even that complex, we see it now, the politicians are clearly saying "what is the cost of avoiding this, compared to letting it happen", what is emotionally "right" (or even morally "right") is no longer relevant, it's whether it's financially "right", and that's why they want numbers.
If climate change is affected by man (and the consensus is that it is), then at some point it will either be too late, or it will be very costly to change.
>>But before you hop on the Pinto wagon (Ha!) do a bit of the same research
You're missing the Pinto point, it's not the number killed, it's the fact that the engineers pointed out the issue in production, and it was totally avoidable, 27 deaths may not mean anything to you, and statistically it's trivial, it's the fact that the explicit decision was explicitly make to leave it knowingly unsafe - even to the point of calculating the cost of recall vs the cost of lawsuit.
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