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Re: @ Adam 52
Let me try to put this in geek terms. There are five of you running a helpdesk for 200,000 users. You are getting aroubd 200 calls per hour. One user's copy of Word has crashed but they won't use the document recovery feature, they insist on you coming down in person to clone their hard drive (which won't help restore the file).
Meanwhile one of the net connections has died, and whilst you do have a backup it's overloaded and thousands of users are getting partial network access.
Do you come in on your day off to help the first user?
To address the points raised:
1. You don't know the priorities. It only takes one vulnerable 90 year old to go missing to divert an entire shift. Vulnerable people go missng a lot (think about your grandparents if you're old enough) and if out overnight they almost invariably die. That's just one example.
Your friend was safe, he'd escaped. He is no longer a priority. Catching criminals is lower priority than preventing deaths or injury.
2. Assault is not a particularly serious crime. It usually isn't even prosecuted, so why waste time. You can argue the government, CPS and court priorities are wrong, but that's not a police issue.
3. CCTV, other than very expensive town centre style operator controlled CCTV is usually next to useless at identifying criminals. And it *has* to be backed up with a statement or it is useless in court. If you want to prosecute you need evidence.
4. Unfortunately social workers work 10 to 4, and don't do potentially violent situations or confrontation; taking a child into care is confrontational.
5. Society doesn't accept closed roads for long periods of time. It also doesn't like decomposing body parts scattered around.
Even if your CCTV was useful, which in all probablility it wasn't, it needs to be written to DVD and backed up with a statement by the CCTV operator to be usable as evidence.
As for the 3 days, it's possible that the officer, or her boss, felt that one of the 50 other cases on her books was more deserving of her time (maybe they were trying to explain to the 8 year old why she was being taken into care and would never see her parents or siblings again, or maybe picking up pieces of the motorbiker scattered along the local roads). Or even that she may have been on leave or on a night shift - you know police officers do have to take time off occasionally and some even have to sleep. I note you didn't care enough to prevent it being wiped.
That's not really fair on the police/CPS. Yes, there is a tendency to looks for evidence to convict the accused, but any evidence that is found during the investigation is disclosed. Usually.
Max didn't sue for libel - although many thought he could have. He sued for breach of privacy, and won.
He also did the court case relatively cheaply using a small firm of lawyers and yet the costs were still way out of reach of the average person.
In the next issue after the decision, the NoTW ran an similar article about a friend of mine that destroyed their career. The current law is clearly no deterrent.
Last time I checked, caller ID didn't give an address.
The red-tape you mention is about 5 keystrokes - flash call log to control rooms Inspector - and a quick note. That's why RIPA allows an Inspector to authorise.
Don't underestimate the number of calls a 999 operator will get from people who aren't thinking clearly. If my experience is typical, I reckon at least 80% will fit this category.
I suspect the next biggest is a scan of the local drug dealer's confiscated mobile phones.
You need to look a long way beyond the headline figure to get to anything controversial.
I say this every time this report comes out. These are not intercepts, they're data requests.
If the 999 operator gets a call that suddenly goes quiet before they've got an address you'll get a hit here, because someone has to go and find out if the call was a genuine emergency.
Good luck if you do decide to leave. Then you'll find out why everyone hates Tiscali so much - it's six months since I left and despite three complaints to the ISPA and a win at arbitration they're still sending round the bully-boy debt collectors.
@Peter 45, @AC
If it isn't true, it is a very widely held belief amongst constables.
Similarly because PACE allows a search of the home of someone arrested, constables believe that the desire for of a search satisfies the necessity criteria for an arrest.
Ever seen a police station car park?
Good luck anyone trying to get this to the charging point.
Other than that, eminently sensible idea. Most police work consists of running about in a limited area ferrying forms to different locations.
Yes, you may resist unlawful arrest. However you'll discover that the Met can *and will* bring more force to bear than you can. The advice from the Courts is, therefore, to sue.
You'll also find that the Met nearly always wins the cases that go to court, even the ones that look hopeless. If you do the analysis you'll note that there is one particular judge that takes almost all of the cases involving the Met., and he always finds in their favour (although sometime overturned on appeal).
I suspect if David had gone to court then he would have lost.
You're spot on. She's managed to do a deal with the border agency to avoid being prosecuted.
In other words she's committed a crime (one she herself created) and she's bought her way out of a prosecution. A bargain for her really because a criminal conviction, which she should have, would have ruined her career.
Some research has put (possibly outdated) numbers against those army benefits.
A private with no qualifications on minimum salary gets £1390/month [source: The Telegraph]. Housing subsidy worth £300/month [source:BBC]. PHI/life insurance worth £100/month [what I pay]. Pension contribution worth £350/month [source: army.mod.uk + Scottish Widows]. Whilst on tour add £300/month [source: The Telegraph].
Works out to an equivalent salary of £27,500 assuming 6 month tour, ignoring specialist pay, retention bonus etc.
By contrast starting pay (post-training) for a constable is £25,000 [source: policeoracle.com]
Starting pay for an arms worker £24000 + pension + healthcare [source: BAE systems]
@Fixing aaaaall the misconceptions
1. Armed forces staff get houses at substantially below the market rate. It might not be free, but it's worth about £300/month.
2. A constable is also a 24/7 position, the duty is absolute even when not "on duty". They also face mandatory retirement, and have to contribute much more pay into their own pension scheme, death in service insurance, legal cover etc. They also don't get a pay rise for every training course attended.
air-to-air fighter, but such combat is very rare
I'm not convinced by that. I suspect the QRA aircraft see a fair bit of action at the moment.
You seem to be misinformed. As an example, o2 do not provide subscriber details except in response to a RIPA request. http://www.o2.com/cr/resource2006/call_monitoring.asp
He does break it down a little more in the report, he estimates over 80% of the headline number is just a request for subscriber data. There's nothing sinister in that, happens regularly when a 999 caller can't/won't give their details (as I've posted before). I suspect you'll also find that in that 80%, there are only about a thousand actual people being targeted - the serial 999 fake callers - plus the mobile left in a pocket and a few genuine emergencies.
I think a breakdown would be useful, it'd help inform debate and stop scaremongering headlines like the Lib Dems are generating.
Report available at http://www.statewatch.org/news/2009/aug/uk-interception-of-communications-2008.pdf
This is the Met
They also have guidelines about not shooting people or beating them up, but it doesn't have any effect.
Reading his account, it looks like someone at Avon and Somerset has been taken for a ride by FACT and the arresting officer didn't have a clue.
Even so, this bit
"the seized items have been handed by police to FACT for computer forensics investigation"
"Beatbullying said that in many cases girls, in particular, are bullied into making and distributing explicit pictures of themselves"
So what they're actually saying is the sexting is common, but bullying around it is so rare that it doesn't show up in the statistics?
You'll notice their other point:
"These statistics support Beatbullying’s work by providing further evidence to highlight that peer to peer anti-social/predatory behaviour is one of the biggest threats"
They do no such thing, they just provide evidence that it happens and is common; no evidence of a threat there.
Horny teenagers have always been fooling around. You could argue that doing it by mobile phone is safer, since there's no opportunity for it to get out of hand.
The BBC doomsday project is always trotted out as an example of digital obsolescence, but it's not a very good one.
The whole project could easily be moved onto some other hardware and the original hardware emulated. The reason it hasn't been is not technical, it's legal and financial. Copyright in all that data was never assigned to the project and rests with the contributors.
All that will happen is that the laptops will be encrypted (BTW, this is Microsoft's big seller for Vista Ultimate into government at the moment) and the password will be stuck to the lid.
A title is required.
- He made a complaint last time. That'll get him a "complaint against police" PNC marker, so it'll come up first when they do a person check (possibly before the "carries firearms" marker).
- Those days are long gone, these days a copper who wears his uniform home if likely to find it firebombed overnight. Unfortunately it's a positive feedback loop.
Someone needs to send ACC Thomas back to school, the Home Office guidelines clearly say that failure to answer questions can't be treated as suspicious.
The "running at the police" angle is on the BBC website.
The Police spokesman comment "The only other choice they would have had is to use a police-issue firearm" is worrying. Lots of other options, including keeping a safe distance or using the not-a-source-of-ignition baton.
A good reason for not replacing PAVA with Taser.
So, in summary, soldiers are too busy attempting to stay alive to fill in the correct forms.
freedom of assembly
We do have a right to freedom of assembly - Article 11 of the ECHR. We just don't have courts prepared to enforce our laws.
You weren't one of the original IT girls. ICL had mixed teams in the 70s, I think the team that wrote their first X25 implementation was 30% female - I know two of them.
As for the glass ceiling - there are plenty of men who don't get promoted beyond the stage they reached at age 28 and they don't blame it on their gender.
If you want success you have to work for it, have a lot of luck, take a few risks and stomp on a few rivals.
Knives and forks
"Metal cutlery that is not spoon or fork must not be carried outdoors"
The legislation also bans pointed objects, so you can't have a fork either.
"Banning online knife sales, and presumably the sale of all sharp implements"
Again the legislation bans blades, not sharp objects. So it's illegal to carry a blunt blade, even plastic safety scissors (that's the CPS view, confirmed by the courts) unless it's a screwdriver (the courts have exempted screwdrivers).
Lots of reasons for him to be fired. When he was arrested he won't have turned up for work for one. Although given that he was a civil servant his employer was responsible for him not turning up.
At the end of the day though, we have a legal system that allows people to assume guilty on arrest.
No increase in risk?
"Google Earth creates no appreciable increase in security risks, given the wide commercial availability of high-resolution satellite and aerial imagery"
Absolute rubbish. What used to cost hundreds of pounds to those who knew where to ask is now available to the whole world, effectively anonymously and for free. A speculative search would cost even more.
Not saying that's a bad thing mind.
A turboprop has a few relatively heavy and securely attached blades, a turbofan has lots of lightweight slot-in blades.
If it breaks
This open rotor stuff - how do the engine manufacturers propose to contain a shedded blade within the engine casing (an airworthiness requirement)?
P&W's plan has the advantage that when the gears do fail, they're less likely to hit the passenger in seat 8A.
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