2642 posts • joined 18 Jun 2009
Re: no queues on-line
hot and cold running coffee and biscuits.
There's something wrong with your biscuits.
No, they're gingerbread men.
Hmmm, better get me coat.
Re: no queues on-line
It is however, a queue in the warm and dry, with hot and cold running coffee and biscuits.
Re: I would like to take the piss out of them
I bet you've since neglected it, and the poor thing is now dead. You heartless monster! Remember a Tamagotchi is for life, not just for Christmas!
Re: What they should do
You're allowed to demonstrate. You just have to get a permit from the local police station. Mark Thomas did a very funny radio program about it, where he protested about the anti-protesting regulations by having protests with as complicated paperwork as he could manage.
Re: Spend a penny?
Well they could solve the number 2's issue by not eating for a couple of days before joining the queue.
I guess they could go into the store for a pee, then cross their legs between 5:30pm and 9am when it's shut. Or to keep their place, just have the Apple store staff collect their filled bottles.
Reminds me of something I read in the paper years ago, about a Sumo wrestling demonstration in Australia. It turns out that not only did JAL have to fit extra large seats for them, but they're too huge to fit in aeroplane toilets. So they had to not eat the day before, and severely restrict their drinking, to avoid the issue.
The cynic in me would assume that apple didn't apply for the license on purpose so it got reported in this way instead of "Only 2 guys are bothering to queue for the new iPhone".
Congratulations on out-cynicalling me. I didn't think of that. And now I see you are a marketing genius. Would you like a job with my new Dogbert's Diabolical Marketing Agency?
Re: 23 year old estate agent
That's not fair to estate agents. They do the initial hard-sell. It's the conveyancers and lawyers whose job it is to hold up the sale for no reason whatsoever...
Re: Jesus Christ
And what a completely pointless waste of time and energy for all concerned.
Is it beyond someone to come up with a better system, rather than having customers physically park themselves outside the shop for days, waiting for a completely arbitrary date & time when they have to physically walk through a door?
To be fair to Apple, they will have it delivered to you on release day, if you order online in time. Or you can reserve at a store, if you're so sad you have to have the thing on day 1, so can pick it up where you work, at luch time.
To not be fair to Apple, they've apparently applied for the license for this tent for the last 4 years, making these poor saps basically unpaid marketing fodder for the Cult-of-JobsTM. But then they seem to be perfectly willing to get wet in this cause, so who am I to interfere with their 'fun'. Even if it does make me want to beat a bit of sense into them.
So they get to be first and get their 15 minutes of fame, care of lazy/bored journalists with copy to file. Apple get to look cool (or more realistically weird), especially when their staff start whooping and high-fiving. And everyone else gets to go, "what the hell is going on with some people?", and shake their heads sadly at the state of the world...
Do the staff in the UK stores really do all this high-fiving and whooping? I can understand the US doing it, they're less grumpy and cynical than us, but you'll notice that Wal-Mart did not introduce the Wal-Mart Cheer when they took over ASDA. Although apparently they did when they started up a chain in Germany. I have this mental image of all these poor Germans being forced to raise their hands and fist-pump while mumbling "Go Wal-Mart! Go Wal-Mart!" And I'm going to resist all temptation to make any bad-taste jokes here, I'll leave that to Basil Fawlty...
Re: "Dude, you're a barista"
Dude, I'm a barrister. Sure I'll make you coffee. My fees are £600 an hour, plus annual retainer and refresher payments.
For the lack of a wig icon, I think I'll get my coat.
That's true. Every Swedish film I've every watched has has been absolutely chock-full of beaver.
Re: CAT Bum Juice
My brother had to take his cats to the vet the other day, due to blocked anal glands. The cure for which was a nice cat bum massage. If it happens again, I wonder if he'll pay the vet's bill, or just go DIY?
Re: Could be worse:
I always assumed that most calamari was made from cable insulation. Hence the phrase, that calamari Hong Kong style was rubbery...
Although I think tripe is worse. It's not the thought of where it comes from, so much as the amount of time it spends in your mouth being chewed, giving you longer to think about what you're eating. And that was disguised in a rather delicious Vietnamese ramen type dish. I'm not sure I fancy tripe and onions - one of my Grandad's favourites apparently.
What was that quote from Neal Stephenson's Zodiac? Something like:
I've lost a job and several girl friends by reading the ingredients from food packets aloud, with explanations.
Re: Don't gloat too hard
Well maybe. If Adobe DRM was making profits, it would be worth someone else taking over the servers. But if it loses popularity, then it's all costs (running servers and keeping the lights on) for no future profits, and so no-one will keep it going. Although as I understand it, it's quite easy to crack.
Incidentally Amazon use their own DRM don't they? So you could regard that as being 2 chances of an organisation failing, or a more healthy ecosystem.
Adobe Digital Editions is utterly shit though. I tried to set it up for a visually impaired acquaintance. The reader/controller program that you install on the PC is in charge of authorising other devices, so you can put books on you eReader. However, if you want to read it on the laptop, you aren't able to increase the font size, and the laptop isn't able to authorise itself - so you can't use another program which actually works for its specified purpose! So I was left with telling them that their options were, buy an eReader to make the laptop they just bought for this one task pointless, or I suppose you might be able to authorise another PC? Or crack the files. As this was supposed to be to read library books - cheapness and regularity were the point, and they weren't up to the complication of sorting it out.
I don't like the idea of vendor lock-in, but I think the library service should just have out-sourced eBooks to Amazon. Kindle may be DRM encumbered, so I won't use it, but at least it bloody works.
I think you'll find that the moon is not low-hanging fruit. It's low-hanging cheese...
Sheepish admission time:
I saw various headlines online about revelations that General Alexander the head of NASA had built himself a 'Star Trek bridge' and this proved he was some sort of maniacal digital cowboy, trying to take over the world. I found this somewhat confusing, especially as I didn't think he was in charge of NASA. Until I finally took a close look at one, and realised that it read NSA.
I'm a bear of very little brain...
Can somebody remind me: why do Yahoo! exist again?
The world has not yet reached peak punctuation. While punchy punctuation production continues to thrive, there will always be a need for an exclamation mark buyer of last resort. Yahoo! clearly fill that niche.
These changes are an important step to building a more modern and personalised Yahoo!
It could be that they will soon exist to ruthlessly track and exploit their users' data... As that appears to be the standard Web 2.0 meaning of the word personalised... Or are we up to Web 3.0 yet?
Re: One Chip to Rule Them All
Ze beatings will continue until morale improves!
Also, you say that you cannot change the laws of physics. However, after a few hours with me and this cattle-prod, you will be singing a very different tune. Soon, all will be resolved, and I'll have you providing unicorn steaks for the canteen as well.
Oddly enough, I couldn't get anyone to agree to do that when I was putting in the business travel miles, ten years ago. We had offices in 2 major European cities. It was a ten hour drive or a €700 flight. Until Ryanair gave Lufthansa the shafting they so richly deserved for their gouging... But, there was a sleeper service on the train. Leave at about 11pm, get in at 7am, only €150 for a double room to yourself, and of course, no need for hotels. I couldn't persuade anyone to do it. I never had a meeting there, so never got to do the trip.
I bet the miserable buggers would have even refused to go by airship too!
Hmmm, airships as buses. Now I have this vision of getting up early, and commuting to work on a combined airship/bus/cafe. Hey man, I'm living in the future! Where's my silver jumpsuit? Now pass me the bacon sarnie and tea.
Even better would be if the bus station was some sort of giant tower with a lift to get up to the top and a slide to get down.
Clearly this isn't going to happen for us normal peasants. But maybe Google will do it? They already have free buses with Wi-Fi to their offices, cafes and a tendency to go mad with slides and cushions when decorating. Plus a huge surface on which to run adverts in the sky, what's not to like?
Re: Fingerprint scanner?
That's a good point. As I understand it the Apple sensor isn't scanning the surface of the finger, although I don't recall reading what process they're actually using. So theirs is supposedly not subject to damage and paper cuts interfering with the print. Which leads to the question of how their biometric compares with the actual fingerprint found on the incriminating evidence / gun / cattle-prod / whipped cream can in question.
I had a laptop with a fingerprint scanner a few years back. I played with it for a bit, but I don't think I ever got more than 50% accuracy out of it, so gave up. I don't know if that means I've got unreadable fingerprints and can go on a killing spree with impunity, or if it just means the technology was crap.
Re: Utterly Butterly
Julian Assange has undergone a psychological examination, and been ruled to be normal and as sane as you or I. I can't believe he's not nutter...
Re: Utterly Butterly...
That would make you dastardly bastardly...
That watchphone is so classy. I must have one now! I will be the envy of all my friends, if only I can get hold of one.
I'm sure the gold colour on the bracelet won't come off on my arm, and that it'll work perfectly, giving me trouble-free service for years.
I always thought Utterly Butterly was the most brilliant name of all.
But Utterly Appley doesn't quite work. Awesomely Appley perhaps? Or if one's feeling less definite Apparently Appley...
Re: Nokia's real fall
@ I ain't Spartacus
We can argue all day about the small data, but you cannot ignore the freefall in Nokia smartphone market share immediately after the burning platforms memo.
Dear Mr Anonymouse,
You're right, Elop drove Symbian sales off a cliff with the burning platforms thing. Presumably deliberately. Although also presumably not expecting it to be as rapid as it actually tuned out. However, Symbian sales and profits were already on the way down, and as we've seen from Blackberry's market share, and the sudden rise of both iPhone and Android - this is a rapidly changing market. So I suspect that Symbian was already well advanced into rolling over that cliff, and not much to be done about it.
Now as to whether pushing the accelerator was a mistake, I can't say. On the one hand, once the sales guys were pushing the new Lumias with the telcos it was all going to come out anyway. And when they started laying off all the R&D people for other platforms, that would have been a smidgeon of a clue too. It's all pretty complicated, and comes down to the fact that it ain't as simple as some people like to make out. Nokia had to cut costs because its current smartphone offering was dated, hard to write apps for and had an uncertain development path. Lots of infighting within Nokia had left them with Maemo/Meego and 2 or 3 versions of Symbian. As I understand it none of those could come to market any faster than a move to Android or Windows. Under those circumstances he chose to take a big fat marketing kick-back from Microsoft and bet on that, rather than betting that Nokia could beat Samsung as the only manufacturer currently able to make profits out of Android. Or going with Nokia's internal process that had failed them for the last 5 years.
In those circumstances going the MS route was probably the least risky. Particularly as MS were desperate for success in phones. Maybe not desperate enough to commit the resources and effort to make it all work properly first time, but desperate enough not to be willing to accept failure - and hence buy Nokia's phone division if it all went pear shaped. Much better than betting on one of the other options, failing and then having to pay the costs of closing that division of the company. If they'd gone Android, they'd probably have had to sell twice as many 'droids as they've sold Lumias - as you have to pay Google for their apps (Android isn't really free), and they'd not have had the MS cash. Plus Win Pho 7 and 8 use cheaper processors and less memory than equivalent (ish) 'droids, so you can either sell cheaper, or make bigger margins.
Sticking with Symbian would have been a gamble that they could come up with something new and awesome before the decline in Symbian sales meant making a loss on every handset - and then hoping that new thing could take off fast enough to get the economies of scale to take you back into profit. With no ecosystem of apps, and no support from a third party company.
Re: Good design?
I agree with you about Nokia's original UI getting more and more stuff added on to it, until their candybar phones of recent years had hideously messy menus. Although back in the green screen days, I'd argue they had the simplest menus of the phones I used (Sendo, Motorola, Siemens and Nokia).
But to argue that Motorola's appalling mess of a menu system was ever better than Nokia's is laughable. My first mobile was a Moto MicroTac - excellent for the time, but confusing. My favourite ever phone, the one I still wish I had was the Razr V3. Ergonomically brilliant. Software by Torquemada...
Re: @AC12:16 Nokia's real fall
Besides, what is the alternative to Elop being the worst CEO ever, that he is the best Microsoft mole ever? Because it is either one of the other, there is no other way to explain the "burning platforms" memo and all the following decisions.
What a load of bollocks. Of course there are. There are several possible explanations. Elop was right and it was the best option available, out of several crap ones. Elop was wrong, but picked a reasonable one of several available options when the required information simply wasn't available.
Gerald Ratner half destroyed his company with one crap joke at a city dinner. So Elop can't be a worse CEO than him surely...
Anyway no. Your binary view of the world is foolish. Elop may not be any good, in which case the board at Nokia are also equally crap, as they both appointed and supported him. As they were also in charge in the years before his appointment, they're also partly responsible for the clusterfuck that was Nokia's future product pipeline. Turning some of the finest R&D in the industry into a wasteland of failed products and never-launched ones.
Finally, those selective figures you link to didn't mention profitability. I forgot to mention it in my post above. But from my memory of checking the figures a while back Symbian profit per handset was dropping, including during the period when sales went up just as Elop was joining. So they were selling more, but being pushed down the food-chain as Samsung and Apple started to hoover-up all the profits in the entire market. That, along with the cheap £100 Androids, was something that Nokia urgently had to address, and didn't seem to have an answer for. At the low-end they were still nearly 2 years away from Asha! And at the high end they had what that was ready for market?
I'm no cheerleader for Elop, but I get very tired of the childish crap that I keep reading about this subject. Hence the odd long and grumpy post.
Re: Nokia's real fall
Those figures are meaningless. They only compare a good 2 quarter period of improvement after the Symbian relative decline had already begun, with the time after a CEO had publicly declared a massive strategic change. They also fail to analyse what would have happened in the market had Elop not made that change, or what his other options were. To be fair that can only be speculation. But they also fail to take into account the competition, which is known. Such as the growth of Chinese dumb phone sales in developing markets, and the new low-cost Android phones. Plus Samsung, who have done rather well at this competition malarkey, and have gone into quite a few industries in the last 20 years and trashed large numbers of their rivals.
It's possible that Elop is to blame for the dumb phone loss of competitiveness. Nokia had held off competition from companies with cheaper labour costs for ages with excellent sales and logistics, plus huge economies of scale, I've no way of knowing, but those sort of sea-changes in relative competitiveness often happen over longer periods.
Finally, this guy writes as if everything at Nokia was rosy, then along came that nasty Mr Elop and spoiled it for everyone. Well if that's true, how come the board appointed someone as crap as Elop? Then compounded the error by sitting back and letting him implement his burning platforms strategy? Then left him in place as it continued? Why, it's almost as if they agreed with his strategy themselves!
Also how come they had about 4 competing and incompatible operating systems? All unfinished after millions in R&D cash had been lavished on them? Nothing finished, nothing even seemingly determined as the one to go with. And this 3 years after iPhone had shown the massive flaws in Symbian! Sure Symbian did more, with huge efficiency, but Apple were taking market share off it anyway, because iPhones were actually nice to use... Even it one disagrees, and thinks Symbian was better, the market and the profits say otherwise. None of that was Elop's fault, it all happened under the watchful eyes of the board that appointed him.
Even if I believed Ballmer and Elop were competent enough to execute a Manchurian Candidate conspiracy, it was still the Nokia board that oversaw the years of internal chaos. They still appointed Elop. One assumes they asked him what he planned to do... They approved his strategy change. They continued to support him as Symbian collapsed. They agreed this sale to Microsoft. So even if you believe Nokia were pushed - they'd already jumped by that point.
I've just installed FlashBlock
Something on this site brought Firefox to a crawl again this morning. I'm not sure what, as I opened a couple of tabs and then it wasn't working enough to find out which tab was the problem. I forced the Flash process to shut down and regained control of my browser - read and closed the tabs, then installed FlashBlock. I've no idea if this was the O2 ads again, but I was under the impression they were now working.
It's a shame, as most of your ads seem to be Flash based, so I'm effectively blocking your ads, which is something I didn't want to do. I don't know if that matters, as I don't know whether the advertisers know that I'm not seeing them, but for the last week or so Firefox has been unusable at least 5 times, and I've had to force close it, and that doesn't count the times I've looked at this site with Chrome (not my first choice browser). Anyway it's only your site that keeps crashing things, and today I don't think it was the 02 ad (though it isn't possible to be certain). Anyway given you're an ad-funded site, I think this is something you need to take a serious look at.
It's not a great advert for Adobe or Firefox either, admittedly...
You're right. Yesterday the site worked. Today, I'm back to using Chrome. Firefox has become un-usable again. Bugger!
Re: Campaign ends on September 19: In the meantime...
Seems to be fixed now. I have many O2 adverts on the screen of the once sad office PC and all appears to be well. Hooray!
Re: Campaign ends on September 19: In the meantime...
Thanks for the update. It's always nice to know what's going on, even if you can't fix it.
It's an interesting question as to whether it's reasonable for you to break your side of the contract, given that the problems with the ad don't directly affect The Register. Apart from damaging your reputation of course.
I would say that they've trashed O2's reputation as well, but I was once a customer of theirs, so that isn't really possible...
I got an email from Drewc saying my complaint on here had been forwarded to the backroom boys. But no further queries from them about what the problem was. So some attention is being paid at least.
I'm just wandering in from the old PC at home this morning, also Vista 32bit and FF 22.0 - and it seems to be working. So either the ads have been fixed, or there's something weird wrong with my office PC.
Or I suppose it's possible there's something weird wrong my home desktop meaning it doesn't display the bug even though it should...
I was too busy to install Flashblock, so hit the Chrome button, which allows me to visit the site again, without the browser grinding to a halt. But it seems that this O2 ad is running more now than it was last week, and it still hasn't been fixed. Which is going from the understandable cock-up of hosting other peoples' adverts into a level of being quite annoying.
Also the O2 advert is now appearing in the square section inside articles, as well as the banner. I don't think I've seen that version on its own (without banner) so have no way of checking if they're both buggering things up.
I've deliberately chosen not to go totally shields up - because I want sites like El Reg to get their fair share of advertising cash. But if I do, I very much doubt I can be bothered to craft different acceptance policies for each site - so please don't push me towards doing it.
I've noticed sites getting slower and more crashy of late, and I'm not sure if it's just web admins getting more lax/profligate on how many objects / how much data gets shoved on the front page - or if its just recent bugs in flash and browsers, or a trend in adverts. Bring back the days of <blink>, 32x32 bitmaps, and pages loading slowly over dial-up...
Re: Ornithologists Unite
Everyone loves to see a pair of great tits.
Sadly though, when looking at 'specialist twitching magazines' what one often sees is the lesser known species of orange tits...
Re: 007 watch!
I hate you both! And that Dabbs as well!
I had to persuade my Mum to go from buying supermarket own brand crisps for school lunch to walkers, or Smiths or whoever it was. Then slowly eat our way through them until there were enough vouchers for both me and my brother. Then when we sent them off with our cash, we got a letter back saying they were out of stock! No James Bond watch for me. If it hadn't been for you 3, there would have been enough left, and I too could have been the proud owner of an Octopussy watch. Sniff, sob, sniff, sob, sniff... [weeps pathetically]
Think: Is Octopussy Watch a show with Bill Oddie and Kate Humble on the Playboy channel?
I've just reported you to the police and your employer. Using language like that suggests you're a dangerous fucking anarchist!
weird. I've never encountered it being downloaded with anything else. Fucking Adobe trys to infect my machine with Macfee every few weeks, but I've never seen anything try to give me chrome.
Dear Mr Anonymouse,
I've seen Chrome try to download itself with Java. It did with all new installs and updates - but that was about the time I started removing Java from PCs rather than installing it. Also I'm pretty sure it was an option on there last time I downloaded OpenOffice, I don't recall if the same was true of Libre Office though. Also Picassa and various other Google bits'n'bobs offer it by default.
I've seen quite a few PCs with both Safari and Chrome on even though the user had neither heard of, nor given permission to have them installed. Apple were obviously using iTunes as their trojan horse (which they've thankfully stopped), and Google a few more vectors. A few years ago, everyone gave you the Yahoo toolbar, if you weren't looking too closely, now it's Chrome.
no mean feat when one considers Internet Explorer is installed on just about every PC sold and Chrome is nearly always a discretionary download.
No mean feat when one considers that the two leading versions of Windows have different browsers, so split the numbers and fall below Chrome in the charts - and Chrome is nearly always downloaded without your permission when you get something else online...
Or is that an overly harsh interpretation?
Certainly when I've helped friends with their PCs I've been amazed how many have Chrome installed. Often these are people who I couldn't persuade to dump IE for Firefox 5 years ago - it's hard enough just getting some people to understand that you're running software to run the internet, not just having it turn up on screen due to magic computer fairies. But now they have Chrome, so have they had a moment of enlightenment and started thinking about the software they use? Nope. They're just not paranoid enough about unticking boxes when downloading stuff - and basically got infected with, it like malware. Then you find the McAfee security scan software on there too, that got on the same way.
Not that I'm saying Chrome is malware. It's a perfectly fine browser. I dabble with it and IE, but I got used to Firefox, too lazy to move, and prefer the 'old fashioned' look. I like all the separate menus across the top. It's funny how loads of people complain about the Office ribbon, but no-one seems to mind losing all the nice buttons at the top of their browser and having to access all controls through one big menu.
Are you sure all those exclamation marks are at exactly 9°? If not, you're going to be in real trouble!
I used to work for a US multi-national. I needed to put our logo on a template document, and along with the logos received the 21 page document explaining how to use it. Along with all the rules about colours, borders and backgrounds the logo must always be at exactly 19° - it never said why...
Re: The new logo looks much more staid and corporate
Jeez! You guys are so un-hip, it's a wonder your bum's don't fall off!
Re: Holy Remind Me Of GeoCities Batman!
That's a busy page o' stuff. Not the fastest to load either, for some reason... I guess I shouldn't be surprised. We keep an old legacy BT email address, from before the company had a domain, and every so often I have to log into Yahoo Mail in order to unbreak it. Boy is that site a hideous ever-changing mess, where they seem to have pages and pages of news stories, half-dressed models and adverts, but hide the inbox button in ever smaller more out-of-the-way places. Actually a quick check shows they seem to have cleaned it up somewhat. So I assume that 6 months ago the Yahoo! main page must have been much worse too. Nice.
Now you've just exposed your lack of whimsy to the whole internet...
Nokia are unlikely to re-enter the phone market, having only just got out of it - and hived off all their R&D, sales and logistics people to Accenture and MS. Plus the ones they laid off. I guess they've retained that option, but I doubt they've got very much expertise left in house, in order to do so. Unless they fancy building the business up from scratch. Obviously they're now profitable without the loss-making phone division, with $4 billion in the bank, and another $5bn coming from MS, plus a generous cheap line of credit. So they've got a nice cash-pile to play with. But only Samsung and Apple are really making money from the phone market now, and that's mostly from the expensive smartphone end - the margins on the volume end are dropping. Not a market I'd suggest that's worth re-joining.
Especially as they've got nice profits coming from their software side, and software doesn't need the huge setup costs in production and distribution required for a profitable move into volume manufacturing.
I suspect this is the actual reason for the merger. Not that MS can't get Nokia to cooperate with it, but that MS can't get MS to cooperate with Nokia. So by eating it, and bringing the Nokia CEO back in-house, they can try to get someone big enough to win in the MS upper-middle-management bunfight that seems to screw up half of any good work the company does.
Of course Elop failed to manage this at Nokia, which is why he junked all their myriad competing OSes and ideas, and went with an outside one (Win Pho). So I'm not sure this augurs well for the future of Win Phone.
After all Windows had a perfectly good phone OS with around 50% of smartphone market share. OK that was Windows Mobile 5, and it was getting very old and crappy by the end. But it competed perfectly adequately with Symbian back in 2005, which was also pretty ropey (in different ways). However, MS stopped caring and updating and got overtaken, then steamrollered, by the rest of the market. As did Symbian.
I don't understand why big corporations can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Surely the whole point of having different divisions is that while all the CEO's time is being spent on trying to rescue Longhorn/Vista, launch XBox, sort out the Software Assurance mess and the like, the divisional head of phones can happily beaver away improving Win Mobile. I'm sure you've got to convince the board to be allowed to re-write from scratch, but they didnt seem to do any development on it at all for years. Then lots of flailing. And they still appear to be in the flailing stage, just slower and in different ways. And I say that as someone who likes Win Pho 7 - and owned a Nokia Lumia 710.
Dear El Reg,
Surely you can get some spaceplane sponsorship cash out of the Ministry, with a CEO called Lohan Presencer?
Re: Rename it!
Ministry of Sausages?
I don't think the ASA is completely toothless. Although I believe it's a voluntary code, which the industry joined in order to avoid regulation.
Anyway, Iooked this up the other day for some reason, and they normally start by telling people off a bit. If they can be bothered to wake up from their afternoon naps. Maybe a slappy-wristy-lettery-wettery-thingy.
But repeat offenders do eventually get put onto the naughty step. Which is that they have to have their adverts pre-vetted by the ASA. This happened to FCUK (the ones too stupid to spell fuck) a while back.
There is a final sanction, which I believe they have used - but probably not often. Where they tell the advertising networks that you are persona non grata, and then they won't carry your adverts any more. The ad sellers and networks are supposed to keep up with the ASA's list of banned adverts and people on the naughty step - and refuse to accept them.
Re: I really liked my last Samsung
I agree, their UI was pretty rubbish. Although my one allowed you to select the most common functions and link to the 4-way navigation thingy, so I didn't often have to brave the menu. But then Nokia's original elegant simplicity was pretty crap by then. I had a work Nokia (in about 2008?), and by that point their menus were just as filled up and confusing as my old Motorola Razr, which also had crap software but a lovely form-factor.
I've got a good memory and some IT skills, so unintuitive software is bearable but annoying. Except trying to set my Mum's Mini up with Bluetooth, which is almost impossible (particularly as the instruction manual appeared to be wrong and I had to guess).
Re: Hershey giveaways
That can't be right though. As the Romans brought edible dormice and garum (which is a 'sauce' made from leaving fish guts to ferment in the sun) - and yet their empire lasted for hundreds of years, so everyone must have loved them.
Even worse, they apparently had a popular desert of pears poached in wine with custard. Yummy, but sadly it was fish sauce custard. For which the inventor should be burning in a very special hell.
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