economics......

Is apparently a science..... That being the case maybe an economist would care to state why it is that they perform no better than tossing a coin when making predictions.

Maybe they'd also like to comment on the disparity between rampantly buoyant boardroom pay and what every body else gets, and maybe on the impact that has on an economy???????? S'funny it's all gone quiet.....

Maybe the author of the article would like to comment on the impact on the economy if everybody was in a position to stick two fingers up at the tax man ???????? ........crickets......

Culture rules.....

I rather fancy that the GSV Sleeper Service, coming as it does wrapped in it's own starship and commanding it's own fleet capable of "fucking star systems" tends ot leave the rest looking a bit pale.....

"Let's see what gappens if we don't....."

....pay the professional renta-queue folks...."

Take home lesson.....?

Is that a lazy, dumb journo is both lazy and dumb, and unlikely to be taken seriously again.

missing the point....

.....it's not about increasing productivity or functionality. It's about moving all the furniture, doors and windows to the extent that folk need retraining, earning MS a wedge of cash over and on top of what they'll earn for the product itself. In addition it's going to be about making your employers hardware obsolete as it will not be able to cope with running Win 8/9/[insert version here], thereby driving the upgrade cycle that so many hardware manufacturers rely on. For gods sake, have some honesty.

Fanboi icon, since many here are in danger of forgetting the true purpose of an OS and veering into "my OS is better than yours" pissong contests.

prior art ?

er... the shift key ? The Num Lock key ? Er...... does US patent law not include a clause to the effect that an invention should not be obvious, or is this waived if the company filing is a big player ?

letters and numbers

What would it take to get Imation moving again? Sack the board for gross misconduct - ie sabotaging Imation for their own short term benefit ?

As always, when it comes ot Europe....

The government talks twaddle. http://www.thebookseller.com/news/france-delays-e-book-vat-cut-2012.html

never in the movies .....

but if it's a vast mothership you're after....... Ian M Banks Cullture, the GSV ships, and the one with the best name IIMHO - So Much For Subtlety

recruiter==protozoan

Back in the day I resorted to recruiters and agency's for assorted labouring work. I was lied to consistently, when temping couldn't reliably get paid, and generally treated like a turd. Having got into work with a PC manufacturer in a techie position, suddenly, when they closed I find myself flavour of the month. Unfortunately the experience didn't improve..... Called at my new place of work repeatedly, despite instructions not to do so. Sent to interviews with piss poor information only to find that they've sent me for the wrong vacancy and I don't have the skills for the position (or indeed an interest), arseholes requiring 5 years experience with a product that was available for a year or two was favourite (and I still see those crop up).

Now I find myself with some limited lasting mobility problems after a road accident 10 years ago and even "ethical" recruitment company's routinely lie (ie I overhear the the rep telling a receptionist they are never in if I should call), never return emails/calls and frankly it has merely confirmed my view that the lot of them are viscious 10%ers, a shower of shit who should be whipped and driven across the land.

It used to be said, "If you can, do. If you can't, teach". These days there's an alternative, set yourself up as a recruiter. Flamed ? He should be incinerated along with the rest of the trash nibbling 10% men that seem to define modern business.

Be honest, now......

The hard core deniers are not scientists or indeed anything but paid shills for the petro industry. Unless a polar bear steals their lunch, on snow drifts overlooking Miami beach, or the dollars dry up, there is no such thing as global warming. I mean, these folks are rich, so they know this to be true.......

@Tom 38 - Can't agree, if the product is on offer throughout Europe, then preserving the same revenue in a single market at least logically and prior to taxes/duty would mean that the price paid would be the same throughout. In other words, the price at the top of the range would come down, whilst at the bottom of the range, the price would go up.

Either there is a single market or there isn't. Vendors at the moment are cherry picking what aspects of the single market they choose to implement and making a mockery of the rest. The big losers historically have been British resident buyers on just about everything they've been able to buy. It's not possibe to make the argument that as an example a product such as a CD, DVD or Blu Ray disk should cost more here than elsewhere in Europe as an example, and still keep a straight face. Tobacco and booze of course are subject to different duty througout Europe, but as pointed out, if it's for personal use, tough luck for whichever member state it ends up getting used in. Governments have had to take the hit, companies should be learning likewise.

Either put in place equitable prices throughout Europe or have the good grace to shut up if somebody gets what they want form another member state because they are milking citizens in their own.

Fleecing the rights holders ? She's accepted Greek tech support and billing, foregone an English language commentary but paid the going rate for an EU member state. Are you saying, that whilst on holiday abroad you buy no product that would be cheaper in that state than back here in Blighty ? I smell BS.

Lastly, you don't work for Rupert do you ?

Looting, jobs, benefits....

looting - Sod plasma screens, I'd defy most humans not to feed their family in extremis by any means necessary, and even the best can join the mob in desperation in the right circumstances. This lot though take the biscuit. Nothing to do with survival, arseholes each and everyone, helping themselves, much as bankers and politicians did a year or two ago..

Jobs - yes jobs are available for immigrants, jobs paying illegally low wages or at best minimum wage.... I suggest some of the right wingers here think on that. Consider tryiing to pay rents,bills, food, the whole shebang. I also suggest you give thought to the prospects of the morons rioting when it comes to employment....... You gonna employ 'em with a nice fresh criminal record ?

Benefits - ok, cut their benefits to zero..... How many square meals do you reckon that would put them from desperation and looting for food ? It doesn't take much to see what would happen in those circumstances...... what you gonna do ? Fence off the inner cities ?

Difficult questions and reducing them to these terms is muppetry of an order rivalling the rioters, but hey, the mob has spoken.

Satan, as frankly we're all going to hell if we follow some of the suggestioins here.

No story ?

My arse..... The time frame of the deletions coincides with the periods that NoTW activites are being investigated. Pruning is one thing. Disappearing anything potentially incriminating is another. Don't forget that the NoTW was no stranger to the libel courts in its time, and that those self same emails would be expected to be of as much interest to the defence team in such cases as anyone else, you'd expect them to be hanging on to mail on the off chance that pending cases could make use of it.

No story indeed - We have allegations of : bribing the police on an industrial scale, possible bribery and corruption of the political classes, impropriety in hiring policy, allegations that the wider company was raided for funds to be used in assorted projects in ways that are stirring up all manner of interest at places like the SEC, hacking of email, illegal access to voice mail again on an industrial scale, a possible involvement in a murder, at least one person driven to suicide, breaches of parliamentary privilege, possible breaches of rules regarding security breaches, in their use of leverage in developing stories a possible case for blackmail, libel,perjury, confessions of some of the above by Brookes and Coulson in Parliamentary committee in 2003 and much, much, more..... the list goes ever on......

Dear right wing trolls..... there are all sorts of stories here and if you don't understand them, maybe, just maybe you should read a paper or watch tv news not from Murdochs tainted stable, or simply step out of Tory HQ or whichever News Corp office you're sat in.

No story indeed.

Don't forget......

That the beeb seem to have 900 million quid available to them for this move to Salford. Yup £900,000,000 that they are spunking up the wall....... They're doing it in order to be able to make the claim that the beeb is not London centric...... Yeah right, moving to Salford will make a difference in the editorial content..... my hairy arse it will.

Oh really ?

Never made any inappropriate payments ?

so what the f**ck is this then ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1AJjnl2y8U

be honest....

Be especially honest at a time when every bloody penny is counted. What new functionality is there in 7 of value in an office environment, over and above that in XP..... errrrrrrr ???

It's about driving the MS bottom line, hardware certification (and was that ever fudged) and training revenue.

Swapping a known quantity that runs your core apps, new hardware, retraining. glitches (such as spectacularly increased file copying times on Vista and 7 - still not fixed - oh hang on that's a feature, you might be stealing "premium content") etc.

In other words, it aint about you and your needs, it's about Ballmers yacht (or what ever it is he does at weekends), shareholder revenue, that's thier job. Everything else is secondary. If your boss has money to waste, and tells you to do it, fine. Otherwise screw it.

Ultimately it's an O/S.... it's there to run apps and allow office wallahs to do their job. Pretty new UI's aren't going to cut it with the bean counters.

@NomNomNom

Have looked back at your previous posts in other discussions and at your comments on this subject in particular. You can be only a troll or Andy Coulsons best buddy........ By the way..... the paediatrician, and related controversy was not restricted to phone calls. There were if I remember coverage at the time riots, property destruction and assaults. How about the poor bastard that had the misfortune to have some degree of resemblance to one of NoTW's publicised paedophiles ? It was rabble rousing almost a la Damian Day in order to sell papers.

Be honest chap...... which of Murdochs organs do you work for ?

@nomnomnom

So if a guy goes into a bank, tries to rob it, makes a balls of it and gets caught, it's everybody else's fault ? Crap analogy, I know, but really ?

Get real chum, they are alleged to have bugged, blagged and bribed across all of their titles according to breaking news, and the police, who come out of this as badly smeared by some individual officers alleged actions if not worse, are in the position that cases against officers and NI staff could end up compromised by NI wilfully leaking details of the case. They're cycnical and still honestly believe they can get away with all this.

@Sir Wiggum

Bang On !

just a thought but

"Technologically an embarrassment, Dark of the Moon is flawed, perfunctory and utterly devoid of vitality or personality. "

Hasn't that been a standard complaint of all movie tie in games since the beginning og such licensing venture ?

holy crap.......

..... I actually agree with Anonymous on an issue, if not with their DDoS. Better..... much better use of political anger.

the reviewer of the Samsung.....

.... fails to mention whether the GPS works at all..... My admittedly cheaper Samsung GPS has never worked at all, and despite being advised to upgrade the firmware appears to have been abandoned, no updates available, with fifth rate PC client software into the bargain. Samsung == massive fail.

@trafalgar

trafalgar

What is cheaper?

Posted Tuesday 24th May 2011 13:06 GMT

Departments that do nothing at all ? Oh yeah right...... Only in your own head ya numpty.

Do councils paying tax payers money generate tax income ? Yes, income tax on employees earnings, and those of suppliers, and spending of wages that goes back into the economy, or do councils now manufacture their own bog roll.

Go back to trolling the Guardian's CiF pages and avoiding tax.