504 posts • joined 17 Jun 2009
The way I understood it Spam is a form of processed meat from the US.
It was popularised in the UK (and possibly EU) by Monty Python.
There was no way manufacturers Hormel could (or would) have done anything about the Monty Python sketch, it boosted sales and was in no way derogatory.
Then as a result of the Monty Python sketch where it's repetition is the humour the word was carried into another realm as a description for (repetitive) junk email.
Hornel at some point tried to assert the trademark over companies selling anti-junk email software and using the word spam in their marketing.
They quite rightly failed because the word had become generic in the context of junk email, that and it was not competing in the same industry (food vs software) and it was not adversely affecting Hornel and the sales of Spam.
Hornel were very lucky to have had their product popularised in such a way and even with the use of the word in a separate context I'd say that as a result there will be a continued demand for the SPAM (TM) foodstuff as produced by Hornel, not many companies will be so lucky and in my opinion the attempted Trademark assertion over various software companies was pure folly.
Back to the topic.
When I read this story the only thought I could muster was WTF? Just WTF?
Lotus Fucking Notes
3 million users.
Not one of them by choice.
I know I'll patent an idea of a device which is really small and can both blow and suck, and of course it'll use some kind of really small tubing moulded into the thin keyboard or something like that.
From what I can gather I don't actually need to provide information on how it actually works, just what it does.
Then when Apple realise they need something to do that then they'll have to pay me. Kaching!
"let's face it, this one's hardly that unlikely, is it?" - LOL
So, which category does "Palinism" come under then?
Definition - A form of homespun, Midwestern demagoguery and fear mongering comprised of a stream of logically unrelated and unsupported talking points uttered by an attractive woman with nice cans and a presumably fine ass intended to engender loyalty among those inspired by demagoguery, non-sequitors, a great smile, nice tits and a presumably fine ass. (apol. Urban Dictionary)
The ticket cost and fees are separate.
8% isn't what I'd call extortionate for the convenience of not having to go to the ground and queue to buy tickets, and instead have them sent to your door.
That happened some time ago.
Not only is the recompense inadequate, I've no doubt that he's now well known by the constabulary and whilst they may not try to fit him up any more.
I'm damn sure he won't be given the benefit of the doubt. Ever.
Call me a cynic, but I reckon there's a few coppers out there clenching their fists thinking this is one that got away.
What's your point?
Are Hoover Ltd. going to sue you for that?
I think you'll find only one manufacturer of vacuum cleaners will market them as Hoovers.
Hoover is a genuine case where a non-generic term has become a generic term for vacuum cleaners.
App store has always been a generic term for a store selling applications.
I reckon it's just coincidental that App consists of the first three letters of Apple.
Mainly because it is a coincidence.
Look up the etymology of the word application, then look up where the company name Apple Computers came from. They have different origins, this is what the real world calls a coincidence.
It was not a divine act from the heavenly Jobs. Trying to claim it as one is pretty absurd.
That works on at least 2 levels
By that logic
Apple should have not bothered changing the iPhone to allow third party applications to run and instead gone back to selling overpriced PC hardware.
Re:I've made my point quite well.
No, not unless your point was that you're delusional, in which case, yes, well done.
App is generic, store is generic, but when you use them together they're the product of Apple?
As it's been pointed out before in the context of "stores", the Apple app store is not the only one to sell "apps" and by a long way it was not the first to do so, it's like Clarks trying to trademark "shoe shop".
Give it up Reverse Lewis Mettier.
Are you mental?
Smartphone market didn't exist before Apple made it? So there were no smartphones before 2007?
Fucking hell, someone better tell RIM, Nokia, Samsung, IBM, Motorola they shouldn't have bothered and they should just stop now, and let Apple trademark the word smartphone. If they could they would.
I get it, you believe the hype that apple make everything and they were there first for everything, but let's face it, that's bullshit.
Because there is one stupid trademark there should be more of them?
I'd say this is profitable
There's money in making old books modern.
I particularly like Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.
In that case we should kill all beavers then.
I guess another part of the (naive) perception is that nuclear power is synonymous with nuclear bomb.
Sounds like flying
It just makes me think of the whole thing about flying being one of the safest forms of travel yet it is a great cause of anxiety in many many people.
Possibly because when things go wrong they go colossaly wrong and bad plane crashes are generally horrific in terms of losses and gruesomeness, similarly when (and it's the only one really of note) Chernobyl happened there were massive consequences.
I guess it's just perception.
I was thinking of the "At-Risk Survivors" category, but if you want to be a bitch about it that's fine.
What a moron, blind obedience .
Seriously what kind of criminal carries ID on them when they're robbing a bank anyway?
Lock him up throw away the key, award him a darwin.
I like Veal, and Zebra, Kudu, Wildebeest, Lamb, Venison, Wild Boar, Ostrich, Bison, Kangaroo, Springbok & Blesbok
Even some insects.
Nothing seems to be quite as good as a decent slice of smoked pig though.
I call parody and fair use.
So stuff Lady Gaga, actually no, belay that. I really wouldn't.
But surely the whole point of the court case is party (or parties) A versus party (or parties) B
I'm not sure why it would make a difference that it's v. said "and"
probably some bizarre legalese rules
It's the legalese and the strict adherence to the word of the law whilst remaining completely ignorant of the spirit of the law which makes those fluent in legalese a lot of money, IMO (allegedly etc.).
It seems pretty obvious to me
Whitelist - If it's on the whitelist it's bubbled to the top
Blacklist - If it's on the blacklist it's dragged down to the bottom (or excluded altogether)
There does seem to be an argument about the lexicology coming from Google, but as the article says, Google have used the terms themselves in the context of search. Any semantic argument is just a fallacy. Simply calling it by another name doesn't make it something else. You can't really choose to ignore a simple term such as blacklist or whitelist.
If you were to call a horse a dog, it would still be a horse.
I'm hoping they wont have a war against underwear, or hygeine, or cardboard.
Or daylight, I quite like daylight.
And shoes, they're useful.
Sure, a lot of references citing App store may be referring to the Apple App Store, but I think that a lot will be prefixed. I'm sure El Reg's are always prefixed.
Apple App Store
Orange App Store
Blackberry App store
Android App store
So are Apple maybe ignoring the prefix in their analysis?
What a pleb
I mean seriously trademarking your own name?
Love the comparison though.
Going for some kind of anonymous twat-o-tron legal feedback loop where the anonymous commentards repeatedly try to sue other anonymous commentards for defamation of their already dubious character?
I don't think they'd run around and desert you either.
You think websites appear on google just by chance?
The issue is when you attain a level of recognition through google and other websites, through word of mouth, other advertising and just generally performing better than the alternatives. Your ranking grows to number one on the google website.
The google decide to move into your market and suddenly you find that regardless of their capability or price your customer base drops and they are suddenly the market leader, meanwhile your revenues force you into administration.
You can live with the advertised services because it's clear they are adverts, but when the results are simply modified by the Mountain View Chocolate factory you have no way of competing.
I thought this was about abuse of a monopoly
Like when Microsoft tried to force everyone to use IE, you could have chosen not to use the MS OS, but that was more expensive than to just use IE.
You could choose not to use google, but then you don't appear on the worlds no.1 search engine.
If google decide to move into your line of business and bumped you down their search results you lose business, it doesn't matter whether you're better, cheaper or whatever.
Their monopoly on search was home grown so I don't begrudge them that, but it shouldn't be able to be used to gain a monopoly in other markets.
Your point, Scorchio, would seem to be that people on the internet can be tracked. I do not dispute that.
My point is that Aaron Barr and yourself seem to have the (in my opinion misguided) impression that the Anonymous collective is a hierarchy and that in determining who the leaders of this hierarchy are is to have infiltrated Anonymous.
I don't think Anonymous works that way and that if ultimately you removed what you consider to be "the head" that the body would not die, it would just grow another head.
It's a simile
It's an IRC channel.
The point of a loose collective is that it expands and contracts, leadership is transient and generally irrelevant. That's what anonymous is.
Trace a bunch of people logged on, a bunch of others log in, take them down another channel opens.
There will always be more to rage against the machine.
Can you understand the simile now?
I read about this elsewhere
It's quite amusing, they got Penny (CEO) to go and speak to the Anonymous IRC and there's a log of the whole conversation - http://pastebin.com/x69Akp5L
I think more than anything this proves that corporations and organisations are just a bunch of people, and each and every one of them has their own opinions, they lie, they slander, but they're also truthful, witty & endearing. Every now and then there's a fuckwit who seems to value themselves over others though.
I pity Penny of HBGary, but the anonymous people have made fair points (albeit in a flippant and sonetimes surreal manner)
Aaron Barr seems in this case to be the fuckwit, claiming to have infiltrated anonymous, seems a bit like someone saying I've invaded Midgaard (all you mudders out there know what I'm talking about)
When the fuck would that be used?
Let me get this straight, some actual AMERICANS are saying that the biggest and fastest is not the best?
That's colossal, it's like they've turned British.
Superpower not quite so super any more?
Ambassadors do speak for nations, so he was speaking for you.
That's the way it works.
If you're going downhill with a tailwind
that would have worked better if he was French?
Only one thing to say
This might be okay, if the police don't abuse their powers.
Of course that never happens does it.
A genre vastly overlooked when it comes to best films.
I think the italian job misses out because it has some comedy in it.
Never mind eh?
Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad.
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle,
Don't grumble, give a whistle,
And this'll help things turn out for the best.
After practising it for 4000 years
You'd think they'd be a bit better at it by now.
They're not managing to predict the lottery numbers.
Hell, they weren't even able to predict the sex of my mates baby and that's 50/50.
Blackadder goes Forth
I saw the show they're talking about and the comments, weren't actually that funny but neither were they offensive.
It's not as if anyone said Japan was dressed like a tart and she was asking for it.
At some point you have to make light of these things, to point out the ridiculousness of it all. A prime example is Blackadder goes Forth, an entire series dedicated to making light an event in which Millions died.
Perhaps we should just stop exporting comedy shows, nobody gets us.
It took me longer to figure out what was meant by advacting, my primary thought was to acting, but second thoughts made me realise it was not. That's why I singled it out, but yes, I should if I'm going to go grammar nazi do a better job. For that reason I will be downvoting my own post.
Tounge is a good one, it was used twice.
and it's pr0n.
Nobody knows and there's no way of finding out.
I like having tarted up stores, it makes it nicer for me to go and look at things to buy off the internet.
Internet & Girls
Back when I moved into the internet about 18 years ago there weren't really many girls there, not real ones anyway, plenty of the virtuals, the pretenders and the few nerdy ones. As a result I have a kind of "dr. house" mentality that everyone on the internet is lying.
I met quite a few people who I knew online and they were on the whole ordinary people, but I can't say I found it anything other than surreal. Internet persona's don't tend to be exactly like a real persona.
The film sounds intreaguing, but I might end up getting irritated because I'd be thinking he was stupid for taking anything on the internet as gospel.
I don't think I can't be fooled, but I wouldn't emotionally invest myself in any online relationship.
I'll probably wait for the post cinema release, good review anyway.
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