60 posts • joined Monday 15th June 2009 11:51 GMT
I'm more than happy with the Apple kit bought over the years ... the uni-body Macbook Pro's are simply the finest laptops I have used and own. OSX just gets better and better and is a pleasure to use. I am forced by work to use Windows, however I *choose* to use OSX and FreeBSD everywhere else.
The iPhone 3GS is my favourite gadget for the last 30 years (and I have a graveyard full of tried and failed gadgets) .. very compelling to use, lovely to handle and more useful software available than I can shake a stick at.
I am notoriously tight with money ... I research, try out and spend ages pondering the pros and cons of all the kit I use ... it has to pass tough tests before I splash out on new gear. I won't pre-order an iPad as I want to spend time with one before considering to purchase or look elsewhere. I'd certainly like a touchscreen, A4 pad form factor, always-on, always-connected, style of device - I been looking for such a device since using the Internet in '85 ... is the iPad it or would a cheaper less technically capable "netpad" be a good choice ... not sure yet.
The point is that Apple make compelling devices, it has superb customer service, it has a great feel for physical design and interactive/software design. As someone who spent many years in the field of interface design research and development, I appreciate the design touches that make Apple products so engaging. Its the physical little things like pulsating power lights, battery indicator LEDs, magnetic catches, the seal around the macbook pro screen and even the lack of user accessible battery compartments.
Hear the woosh ...
... as the point flies over people's heads.
1) A contractor .. so what. They like money as well as the next contractor.
2) A commodity / component supplier ... so what. They like money as well as the next supplier.
3) Ditto ... repeating for effect does not work.
4) There is a whole world beyond the US with a far larger untapped user base.
5) And they have bought and moved in-house two top-level ARM-based chip design houses.
There are only TWO components that really matter to joe public / consumers about a product .. physicality and usability ... both of these are under Apple's direct control.
No, £429 is the starting price..
And you can pre-order it today at that price from apple.com and you will be able to buy it in an Apple store at that price from May 28 ... it is highly unlikely you will get it cheaper from an Apple reseller, and due to worldwide demand Apple may even withold supply to resellers for a few months.
I also note that Apple are not discounting the iPad (student or EPP sites) by the usual 7to9% that they do for most other kit (iphone has always been an exception to this discounting as well).
But its still going to be a street price of from £429 not £500.
they also want a full GPS and not to have to carry a separate mifi which only has a few hours use (i.e. a lot less than the quoted battery life of the ipad when using builtin 3G).
Also it is no compulsory to buy an iPad ..
Vote for 3
I've had two 3 mobile broadband sims for 2 years now and recently extended both contracts (each are 1Gb per month for £5 inc VAT - yes JUST a fiver for each!) and was "given" a new (faster) USB dongle and a MiFi dongle for nowt.
One of my original dongles is now fixed in the car linked up to a netbook acting as a trip computer/GPS/OBDII/webcam/wifi router ... and it gets a good signal most of the time and holds a connection very well even when driving around the countryside.
I've been VERY happy with the 3 network and have no problem recommending them and it sounds like they can only get better. The tariffs are very reasonable and the more you buy the better discount you can get 8-)
You get A-GPS as well though 8-)
Agree that £100 for the addition of 3g (oh why the micro sim considering the space on the inside) and Assisted GPS [that is pukka GPS + cell triangulation] and that slightly dodgy looking plastic "window" (equals less aluminium cost) is a huge markup based on what is probably around £20 (max) component costs.
Still .. I'm tempted ... but I'll hold off until I actually handle one and then I'll decide.
Steve is right when he says ...
"Please educate yourself. UK prices must by law include VAT, which is around 18%. US prices do not include tax."
So says Mr Jobs to two emails about price differences.
As other people have said when you allow for £/$ variability, add in duty (if you are lucky Customs will say its a laptop/PDA with 0% duty or if you go for the 3G one then it might be classed as a PDA with GPS and hence attracts 3.7% duty) and VAT and then there is very little difference in real prices.
I've noticed that Apple have got better with their UK/US pricing over the years with closer alignment, once you take in to account VAT and currency exchange.
What is a rip off is VAT regardless of its %age - blame the EU for that one.
That would only be true if ...
the pound tanks and Apple DONT update their prices on either side of the Atlantic.
Judging by the markets at the moment .. that could actually happen next week. Apple have a tendency not to change prices except when they update products, so fingers crossed!
To be fair you are probably not the target customer
My parents and schoolkids are the target customers .. hence the need to keep the price low.
I can easily see my dad reading the newspaper on this device, browsing the web on the sofa whilst my mum watches yet another soap.
I on the other hand have more gagdgets than my wife has handbags and shoes, so I will probably get an ipad for the sheer fun of it .. and it does look fun. Whether it ends up in my "gadget museum" alongside the Newton, Palm, Z88 [great little word processor!], Zaurus, TRS-80 Model 100, Psion 7 to name a few, is yet to be seen.
Certainly my iphone 3GS will stay with me a bit longer ... as it currently sits as my best gagdet phone of all time (tm) alongside my unibody Macbook Pro, 2nd Gen iPod shuffle and 1st Gen iPod touch [damn you Apple for making such compelling products!] ... coming in a close second is the Acer Aspire One running Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Sony DTS receiver + BluRay player.
@furthermore, i think the confidence that this won't greatly reduce iphone development is unfounded.
The T&Cs have always had a "we will refuse your app for any reason we feel like" .. you can't get more ambiguous than that ... does not put the thousands of developers off now does it.
Apple have made this "market", if they feel they have broken it they will change their mind. So bring on the competition, only the end-user will win.
It's understandable ..
It's understandable that Apple want to keep the API clean and require developers to go through them. This allows Apple to implement changes to the kernel and sub-systems with less fear of breaking the hundred of thousands of existing applications.
I've developed translation software in the past, e.g. generating pure X11 toolkit API calls from a graphical IDE. I don't see that Apple terms would restrict that approach if the generated code is clean, strictly follows the API and then Xcode is used to perform the final checks and compilation. In fact, if the translation mechanism is written correctly it should be quite hard to distinguish handwritten code from translated code. So Titanium could be okay .. only time will tell if Apple are trying to future-proof iPhoneOS APIs or if they are being unnecessarily draconian.
Yeah right ...
So by "artificially" delaying a rollout it means you will definitely sell more units and people won't wander off to the competitors who are falling over themselves to pre-announce units that they are desparately trying to deliver as early as possible in order to take the wind from Apple's sales ... yeah that makes loads of commercial sense, NOT.
I'd go for cockup, not conspiracy every time .. they either got the demand planning wrong or the sub-contracted builders are having component / yield or other construction issues.
@Also missing is Adobe Systems' Flash and third party applications
Tut, tut. What about choice? No wait, no one needs flash or other badly written 3rd Party apps.
@Consumers should react!
They do, in ever increasing numbers ... just look at Apple's quarterly figures.
Consumers don't care about the technology, they care about the experience it gives them.
Jobs may not be an engineer but he is no IT moron. He may not be the nicest person in the world but that does not make him a devil either.
They give you another one
The battery is of course built-in. If it dies within a reasonable period of time Apple will give you a new one. If it dies outside of the reasonable period of time or if the battery has reached its recharge capacity then Apple will sell you a replacement battery as a service .. you give the ipad to them and they give you a new one (new battery and new casing, possibly old mainboard etc).
See here for full details ...
Umm, its a tuesday ..
.. and Apple usually do store updates on a Tuesday and fairly regularly in my experience .. yes there may be new kit coming out but probably related to updates to one or more of the following which are overdue (based on previous update cycles)
Aperture 3 (press release has announced it)
Non-cultists can more along.
Firefox is Open Source ... so why not fork off?
You want later versions to work on your older kit .. then use the source Luke. After all that what it is there for. That's too hard? Then pay someone to do the port.
Mifi from 3 ...
is very cool and I got one as a dongle upgrade and now just pay £7 per month for the 1Gb tariff which may or may not be enough for mobile ipad usage but definitely a cheap deal.
It's true that a 2nd or 3rd gen ipad would definitely be better but I will wait to see how well it actually works in the hand to see whether I get hooked now or later 8-)
No yes yes!
I'm sitting here leaning back in my chair (working from home of course) with the foot-rest up (no lazyboy but comfortable) using a laptop but could quite easily use a tablet instead.
Plus have a look at iPad case here http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/#case-flat
looks very usable to me.
"This resigns tablets to passive consumption of media" ... umm, yes and what do *most* people do with computers in their homes? Niche users will use it for data input and reference, e.g. medics, pollsters, students etc.
The iPad will sell well because it will fit in with the lives of millions of people .. however the next version will sell even better and version 3 will be even better ... or am I just thinking of the ipod and the iphone alone?
... nope it's following Dieter Ram's 10 principles of good design.
Dieter is a genius and I for one applaud the lack of extraneous buttons, stupid branding logos (single iconic apple logo is fine), crappy plastic, etc. Their design may be minimal but the physical engineering these days is superb. I will be looking forward to actual hold and interact with one.
I have a secondhand newton and secondhand cube ...
Both still great products .. the Cube is still alive in use as a 17" design workstation for my wife.
The newton had potential .. even the handwriting recognition got much better .. it just got beat by a cheaper, simpler version in the Palm Pilot (also have 2 variants of those .. Palm lost their way after the "V" ).
Quite a few people do, so there.
I've been longing for a portable, easy to use, always-on, always-connected, slate-like (ST:NG) device for years .. this is the closest I've seen (okay rumoured) in the last 30 years that resembles it.
However, as with all hype and rumours I'm prepared to be disappointed (valley of disappointment?) because of some possible limitation (too expensive or tied to crap carrier etc). But like ~900 people in Derbyshire, I live in Hope.
I've just added to the stats ... from an iPhone.
As a long time Three dongle user I'm actually pleased with O2 on this paygo iPhone .. £10/month for 'unlimited' mobile Internet and free openzone/cloud wifi is good value.
That was my first thought too
Font is too elongated and really makes me think 1980's. Its vaguely early Apple Mac but not as iconic.
Then again it is the only thing which says "Nokia woz here" to me on those screenshots.
I got the Aspire One version with 3G modem built in for £196 without contract (Three SIM works fine) .. so better antenna and no dongle 8-)
The nokia does look very nice and rather Macbook Pro like ... have to agree that HDMI out and no LAN seem odd choices but not a deal breaker ... however the price is the deal breaker, even without a contract they would sell shed loads if they halved the price.
wasted screen space
That pic of Opera in action just made me think what a waste of screen space ... the top and bottom areas are just dead space and ought to be hidden or at least minimized in normal ... I want to see the web site content not navigation controls.
Start off tight and then loosen later ..
Its much "easier", PR wise, to undo a hightened level of security (like Apple's) then it is to add it after the event (like Google) .. it is also an easier positive spin to say that things are now better due to streamlining/automation of the approval process.
Apple have a wildly successful marketplace for apps, so they can stay very tight for much longer ... for the majority of users (who just want things to work and don't care about developer angst 8-) this is a good thing.
Personally I would rather see Apple come up with a neat way of allowing background apps on iPhone OSX (some form of user controlled scheduler and auto-kill when too much resource is used, would be good) then to worry about wholesale changes in their approval process.
If I want to have open development on a smartphone then I would not pick Android, I'd go for Nokia's Maemo platform instead (niche and may fold but worth playing with - the N900 is nice but would be much better if cheaper). If I want to make money from the smartphone market I'll stick with Apple.
Well, from what I have read, the root password of "alpine" is as set by Apple in the iphone firmware .. which if true, is far too easy to crack and should have been set to something long and obscure as it should not really ever be used.
looks good for macbook pro use as well
My 13" pro is already pretty silent and rather fast but even faster for £70 would be really good. 40Gb is perfectly big enough for a Snow Leopard install and even a bunch of useful applications and data.
@That makes it an iPhone worm.
Nope .. it makes it a worm targetting a particular IP address range (in Australia) looking for SSH daemons with a crap root password of "alpine". The fact that it hits jailbroken iphones where individual users have deliberately ...
a) jailbroken them
b) manually added the SSH daemon
c) not set the sshd config to disallow root logins
d) not set the sshd config to only use keys
e) not set the sshd config to listen on a non-standard port
f) not changed the hidden default root password (well known since 2007 in the jail-breaking community
... is a coincidence which media outlets pick up on because its an iphone.
Sorry but a fool and his/her security are soon parted.
EyeTV supports multiple tuners and has since version 2
I use 3 tuners with EyeTV 3 on a Mac Mini .. an EyeTV 400, a 410 and a Miglia Mini ... can't see why two of these would not work together as each would have a different usb location id.
Interesting heads-up display with at last a decent image resolution ... would be great if it could be linked to an iphone with augmented reality software.
The resolution has to be good (tick), it needs to allow normal vision to work (i.e. not just the dark headsets found in the existing lower res devices) and not be vomit inducing!
I'd have one if the price is pitched right, has iphone connectivity ... and assuming the lasers won't blind !!
@calm down dear
Visual Voicemail .. who cares .. I'm on a 3GS Pay&Go and so have never had it .. I use mobile data all the time and only make the occasional call (had it nearly four months and spent around £5 on calls and texts so far 8-) ... so its been quite perfect for me.
The first 12 months includes the £10/month unlimited data option ... which I might stick with next summer as its very good value (even if coverage is spotty) but that will depend upon the ability to officially unlock the iphone and use with my 3 SIM instead.
If my company had Exchange rather than Notes then I'd rip the O2 SIM out of my CrapBerry and stick it in the iphone (actually my BB Bold has just died after a mere 3 weeks of ownership .. so I'm mobile work-email-less 8-)
Ohhh shiny technology ...
Never mind the cost feel the chips.
eVoting is yet another example of chucking technology at a problem when there really isn't one.
People make the best optical recognition systems and when multiple people are used you get the advantage of making it harder to commit fraud and more accurate results.
If people think their evotes won't be counted properly then they will be even less likely to vote than they currently do. Making voting quicker by a minute or two and counting faster by a few hours or so does not mean that we will be voting more than we do ... just look at the quality of the candidates, their policies and how willing they are to fill in their expense claims and pass pointless laws .. improve those and people will be very willing to go out and vote manually even if it takes days to count and even if it costs more (which clearly it does not).
... publishing the document as a whole or a majority part would be in breach of their IP? But publishing the actual "facts" detailed in the response to the FOI request would be okay? Hmm, lawyers at work here.
As long as the "facts" are out in the open then who cares about the fancy PDF fonts, layout or weasel words used to wrap them up ... sounds like SU is trying to spread FUD to stop people using the "facts" for fear of being sued for breach of IP??
I bought 2 Beetles CDs once ... never again
I even have them on my ipods but do they get played, nope .. I even skip them when they come up on shuffle mode. They were the Take That of their age .. file alongside Elvis under influential but not essential.
Musically, I'm stuck (on repeat) in the 80's and the only 60's music I like is the original 45RPM single of Telstar by the Tornados ... daaah dah dah, dah der der dah dah daah.
Reasonable kit ruined by software .. again
WinMo is yuck and causes the problems. Apple gets away with less than bleeding edge hardware because of the great software (leaving aside any moral issues about app store lock-in or the approval process which does not affect most customers).
With help from ex-Apple employees Palm also "gets it" with the Pre software and hopefully it will cause Apple to succumb to the "no background" apps restriction and allow some extra services to run in the background (GPS tracking and Skype would be my favourites).
The only hope for the WinMo handset makers is to move to Symbian and press for a better UI ... I would not bet on MS providing a better WinMo unless they start from scratch.
Buy the 13" pro instead ...
I've just upgraded my 3 year old macbook to the 13" Macbook Pro and it only cost me £845 (EPP or Student discount pricing gives a £50 saving) and it was a no brainer compared with the "entry-level" Macbook reviewed here.
The £150 difference in price (£100 if you qualify for the discount) is really worth it for the faster CPU, faster memory and bus speed, backlit keyboard (really good for late night hacks!), SD card reader, 7 - 8 hour battery life and the superbly engineered aluminium "unibody" shell.
The Pro runs really cool and I'm very pleased with it .. best engineered machine I've ever used in 30 years.
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