World of Warcraft?
Hmmm didnt South Park do this a couple of years back?
"Bring me........ The Sword of a Thousand Truths"
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Hmmm didnt South Park do this a couple of years back?
"Bring me........ The Sword of a Thousand Truths"
But as a single person my bin is not as full as the single parent family next door in an identical flat.... so there the argument about those who cause the costs have to pay falls flat.
"local government" has gotten above its station, I recall a friend in Sutton years ago berating the lib dems about a redesign of their tree logo and its cost. On being told that they needed to update the corporate image he told them that they were there to sweep the streets and empty the bins and that they didn't need an image for that. Add the sports car fiasco in wales and you can see that this has become just another trough for the political snouts (second division) financed for the parasites by us the people.
It always makes me laugh when they go on about the amount of benefits paid out (mostly to those who HAVE contributed all their lives) while forgetting that the worst class for the sense of entitlement to our money are MPs and their entourage, they insist we need pay restraint but for them its a matter of rewarding their immense (and usually well hidden) talent.
Banking , insurance and politics, three areas rife with fraud, corruption and greed.
... and look how well thats worked for some high end car owners?
Not so much worked up as wondering why there is so much focus on the "failings" of apple when Samsung products have disappointed me on such a wide basis that i wouldn't have another one as a gift due to abysmal battery life and buggy software.
You don't seem to see that for many the worth of something branded is not its Image... but its ability to fulfill the function or purpose that it serves, Aldi/Lidl have a decent range at good prices, My iPhone 6 performs well in all the things I use it for AND can last through my working day - which the previously owned unit didn't. My choice was driven by practicality, something that I could use and would remain useful through the day, the previous unit - allegedly offering more facilities did most things poorly and nothing outstandingly well (apart from running out of power)
Finally, your office isnt a representative sample - nor is any other workplace really,
2 more waiting in this house alone... and no we don't shop at Waitrose... nothing wrong with Lidl and Aldi..... Flashing the phones? no more than the Android users do.,.. my phone comes out if I need to use it, I wont shed any tears if that offends people like you.
I cant say I even missed the NFC functions that much when I first moved to the iPhone - With my S3LTE I used to use NFC to switch Blu tooth on and off and move between mobile data and wifi in car/home/work but as the 6+ I now have doesn't murder a battery in less than a working day I no longer need to worry. The car still has tags in it, but they are never used.
It must be strange in your world of stereotypes...
Oh bollox.. "we are going to use this to upsell to those who already quit our overpriced phone service and dont want our IPTV..." looks like a spam campaign in in the offing, Might be time to move my mobe again which is annoying as the identity crisis network is the only one that works properly in the are where I am employed.
Strange thing is that EE have been ok in rrespect of CS.. I call them... they do whatever I request... it just works for me - maybe I am lucky.
Where I live the car carries a licence plate from the local authority giving the car details (to prevent use on multiple vehicles, the car goes through a tougher than usual (private car annual) inspection every 6 months, carries a huge insurance policy and is subject to spot checks. Oh and the journey is metered so if you make it regularly you should be able to predict the cost.
I too had one of those. After reporting it to the ICO, and as there was nothing on TV I spent a fun hour annoying the hell out of the (Only?) guy answering the phone - isnt it fun when you have unlimited minutes? He seemed particularly mad when in reply to his "why do you keep calling?" question I replied that" I was hoping that by blocking the line up I might prevent some fool from being scammed by you losers."
Pretty sure that number goes all the way back to an overseas call centre, the droid I spoke to didnt seem to have a clue about London. When he claimed to live only a short walk from his central London Office I told him that even selling his body wouldn't earn enough for a muppet like him to afford central London rents - Unless he was hanging out with the winos and vagrants.
Im expecting the worst from the EE change and am already looking around for a new place to port my number. The annoying thing is that EE offer the better service to my work location, 02 and Voda are patchy to the point where calls are only possible in a few closely defined spots and im still dubious of 3, apart from the huge issues in this area a few years ago, a friend who crashed at mine for a while had problems with service.
Why is it so hard to find a network that functions in both places? I do know I want to avoid BT wherever possible.
Given the usual Golden Hour comments about accidents - maybe the EU should be focusing on keeping A&E units open around the UK rather than allowing the private healthcare using Politicians who spend most of their time in well served cities to remove vital facilities to remote "central hubs" as is happening across Wales now. The golden hour is being squandered on longer ambulance trips to the next county becuase A&E (and many other services) have been removed for "efficiency"
Given the state of many UK roads Im wondering how long before they finally deteriorate to the same state that l;ed to Jezzas BMW firing off airbags in the Top Gear Africa Special?
.......and yet a friend of mine in the U.S pays almost double for a capped 1Mbps service with the only provider available to him as I pay for my upto 80Mbps uncapped/unmetered fibre service with one of a range of providers available to me in the UK and over double what I was paying up till last year for my old upto 24Mbps ADSL2+ service.
Sure is a modern pricing arrangement, and to think back in the late 90's we were jealous of the cheap access that the U.S. had compared to the UK.
The morality of this disturbs me, When I type in a url, I expect my browser to connect to the site I have requested, not a facsimile, or anything that has been tainted by the hand of an adware firm, only the site as published by the owner.
So in my book this sort of malware *IS WRONG* , and the assertion by the jerks behind this worthless garbage they have done nothing wrong shows how morally bankrupt they are, they need to realise that their desire for a free lunch off of my web use is WRONG.
For a manufacturer to be installing this is worse, and Im sorry but I could never trust a lenovo machine now, unless it came with separate genuine windows installation media, which is how it SHOULD be anyway. I have never liked or trusted the crapware loaded installation partition stupidity - which also means you lose your installation media if the drive dies.
Thank god for pcdecrapifier!
"The track-day denizens at whom this is aimed will love the telemetry. You’ll note that all the in-car pictures here are taken from the passenger seat and, really, you do need a passenger to operate the computer as there are so many menus under the “RS Monitor” option."
Except of course that track days normally don't allow passengers to be carried on a live circuit.... At least the ones I have Marshaled at don't - so that demonstrates that like most of the electronics on modern cars it is over complicated to the point of uselessness - or worse - to the point of distracting. It is time to reduce the distractions and allow the driver to focus on the core task... driving the thing.
The breakers yards are full of relatively young french cars that have major electrical issues rendering them useless - however this is a trend in cars generally with thinner wiring often composed of ally and some finger crossing that it wont fracture during the warranty. I know of several Megane Scenics that went to the scrapper at well below 10 years of age due to major electrical faults
I wouldn't buy anything with a french badge - Too many technical issues, and dodgy styling... has anyone seen the abortion they have for tail lights on some of the Renaults now? I followed a 14 plate Megane hatchback yesterday and noticed the tail lights on that were really hard to make out in bright sunlight from even slightly off square from behind the car. Lights are NOT styling statements!
I only ever had a gmail account because my Driod phone demanded it, I never used it for anything that wasnt generated by Google - never will - My personal mail goes to my own domain and a trusted server (as far as one can trust anything that isnt self run) .
I am NOT a Marketing Opportunity for Google or anyone else to corral easily into their data silo
A number of people here seem to be unaware that many cars have a chipped key that "talks" to a reader that often surrounds the steering lock / ignition barrel, Overcoming that to the point where a car can be driven can be a "tech task", Without the ECU getting the correct code from the chip in the key the engine usually wont start. Clearly that issue is one of the major concerns of the police and is very much a technical matter
Tescos clubcard knows less than it thinks it knows about me, I often shop for others on my way home, I pass our local tesco on my commute - it is in the next town, locally here we only have a rather expensive (and small) co op... so the data Tesco hold on me is not exactly accurate for my household, especially as much of my own shopping is done at the weekend, a mix of veg and eggs from the farm stall at the Sunday market, Meat from the farm shop (If I finish early enough to catch them), Asda, Lidl, Poundstretcher and a few bits from Tesco to top up in the week. My fuel save discount at Tesco is mainly from other peoples shopping
When I am away from the area there are specific items I pick up from Sainsburys or Morrisons as we don't have branches locally.
Big Data doesn't know as much about me as it would like simply because most of my shopping is done with cash in stores without loyalty cards, and some of that is down to a dislike of the current thirst for data about every aspect of our lives. In the UK we suffer way too much intrusion and surveillance of our every day lives. Its time to take back some turf for ourselves, especially as those making these decisions are the same ones that expect privacy & confidentiality themselves.
And what is to stop them delaying call connection until *all* the ad has played through to its conclusion?
Just fuck off, This has no place on any phone I use. If this became widespread I would revert to a payg connection and communicate as much as I could by IM and email.
We really need a way to exterminate the marketing fucktards. We neither want nor need selling to at every step.
I am NOT a marketing opportunity. I DONT buy on a whim or just because some ad tells me I need this.... so it would just be wasted on me, and would most likely create a NEGATIVE view of the product/service for me and Id guess many others.
2 Former S3 users here, both now on 6+.... why? well I cant speak for the other one, but for me with an i9305 (thats the LTE one) it was lousy battery life, software issues that led to the phone frequently dropping its user ring tones and other customizations and its weird propensity to self dial people that I had just texted if the screen rotated while the text window was still showing. It also used to drop network easily and then refuse to work without a reboot believing that it was still off of coverage even though it was showing several bars of signal. There were other issues surrounding attempting to dial in a certain way from contacts which showed some software running (USSD code running) then an unable to dial message
Oh and the final straw - the micro USB socket failing after 15 months and Samsung supports assertion that such failure would be seen by them as chargeable damage not a defect despite the fact that the phone needed charging more than once in 24 hours which was the reason for heavy usage and yes the other S3 phone (I9300) here was showing the same sort of issue when it was replaced.. For a premium product it was just terrible the software was lousy and after the USB failure I knew I no longer trusted Samsung to provide me with the quality I expect from a mainstream brand.
My current 6+ runs for 3 days on a single charge with the same sort of usage and software in use. It just works which is what I expect from a premium price unit. In fact I probably use mobile data more now than I did with the Samsung mainly because I have a battery that will last me a day or more... rather than needing a recharge by 6 or 7 pm
Samsung products have disappointed several times and are now no longer considered by this household.
ADSL speeds are also dictated by line length expressed bt your router as attenuation, a line with 20db att is always going to be much better than one with 50db, 65db is the maximum that most routers can report and at that length a user will be seeing very low speeds.
This stuff isnt always as black and white as it seems - my 40db line only does 8(ish) megs on ADSL 2+ (around 5.5 megs on ADSL) but does 67 megs on FTTC.
Rural Tiddlers... Does that include the SME's round here that maintain the LNG processing plants and terminals and the oil refineries and the local power station (soon to be 2) that keep your lights on, your office warm and your car fuelled? Rural doesn't mean a village green with an exchange on it, nor are all SME's kitchen table start ups, in the same way as I'm sure not ALL urban dwellers have their heads up their arse... only some.
We have several SME heavy engineering firms locally in the petro-chem sector than need to be here (its where the customers are) that are pushed out of town by planning restrictions for industrial units, that only makes things more difficult, I know a couple of businesses that barely have broadband and are at the limit of the cabinets reach it is where the industrial zone was sited so they have little choice about location. Sometimes its a lot more complex than the average office droid can figure. Something in the region of 25% of the UK gas supply enters the network not 10 miles from where I am sitting. That network and plant needs upkeep, and its SME's that do the bulk of it.
Its a spooks wet dream... another step closer to a population under surveillance from the day it is born, we already have a generation of kids unconcerned by cctv monitoring, this just ups things another notch.
"Have you changed your filter please sir? ok...... now I need you to log off please.... and change the details to startup_domain @bt,com... the password is password"
Please to note that if we send an engineer to check your system there may be a charge of £149.
My Iphone ringing while I am completing a task during my working day causes the same emotional response as my old S3, and the Blade before it, and the 6230i before that etc...
"People know my hours why the **** are they ringing me now when taking a call is not possible...?"
Which coincidentally is a similar emotional response to those who ring me late at night/when I am in bed...
This study sounds more like a prior assumption looking for validation.
.......And in an ideal world these would be valid point, HOWEVER... the weirdos and crazies are actively seeking to stop free discourse and expression of ideas by use of deadly force, which means the "tolerance and understanding" school of thought is on a loser as it is taken by these nut jobs as being a display of weakness and "decadence" .
Turning the other cheek is all very well in the playground, but when the citizenry is being blown away by hate filled religious zealots (many of whom will be acting out of a view corrupted and bastardized by radicals who seek power for themselves and would wish to cast society back to some past feudal point), then that is time to up the game in defence of those for whom religion is something "other people do". As civilised people we don't arm and take to the streets, so if a group wants to make a protest in this way and possibly disrupt the use of radicalisation/jihadist sites then good luck to 'em!
Does anyone else see the Streisand effect in this? On Monday I have never heard of Charlie Hebdo. So any irony about Anonymous Defending free speech by deying free speech is more than outweighed by the global publicity given to a relatively obscure (outside of France) publication by those seeking to destroy it.
"You want a global real-time number database? "
No we want a stop to overseas callers spoofing UK STD numbers usually with ranges that do not exist.
Add t the the inalienable right for ME as the rental payer for the line to refuse to accept termination of calls from overseas. I don't deal with companies that have off shore centres but I get s many spam calls from outside of the UK where unscrupulous UK companies deliberately farm (Illegal) cold call work to avoid regulations in the UK
OH and introduce a requirement that a line should perform at n% or its likely technical capability for broadband, so where a line should be "technically capable" of 10 megs it should do at least 7.5 or something and stop Openjoke hiding behind excuses for knackered copper dodgy joins and ally crud in circuits- we pay line rental we have a right to a reasonable quality of service surely? Given that many lines (like mine) now only exist to support Broadband its time the rules recognized this,
Finally Stop the SFI con, if you are being charged for an SFI then the guy should be better qualified than a plain old engineer, and if the issue ISN'T down to you then there should be NO charge, Unlike what is happening up and down the country today.
It is time to stop BT acting like the abusive virtual monopoly it is in many places. and if that hurts the shareholders TOUGH, we are paying through the nose for a second rate service much of the time. Itr needs to stop and OFCOM need to grow a pair, man up and finally bring BT group to heel - not that they will... its too comfy getting along like old chums.
In common with a lot of things on modern cars its about form over function.
It doesn't matter how stupid or impractical as long as it looks /is seen to be *cool*.
Many modern car light clusters illustrate this perfectly.
Samsung would do better sorting out the durability across thier range, after a lightly used 42" had a motherboard failure at 13 months, and my galaxy s3 lost its usb port at 17 months I am sure there is NOTHING I want Samsung to sell me
Thier loss means a gain for Panasonic and Apple.
I'll pass on this toy just like I did with 3d.. its only TV... HD is more than adequate for most peoples needs.
So how is this any different to PC makers selling you a machine with a drive that is partitioned down from its stated size to accommodate the cab files to reinstall the OS?
Oh of course its bad because its Apple, cue much gnashing of teeth....
This is getting so old.
That might be the norm in CS HR depts, however... for those "at the coalface"
Days 1-5 require a daily "sick call" to be made to the office, after day 5 a Doctors certification is required, and calls then become weekly from line manager to employee - regardless of the certification, this even happens when surgery is involved with a "known" recovery time.
After 4 weeks a face to face interview takes place, at which point the Dept has the option to refer employee to their internal contractors for examination.
After 8 days continuous sickness or 2 instances of any length (even 2 single days) within 12 months it becomes disciplinary matter, which kicks in a 12 month "attendance monitoring" which will lead to further processes if health continues to be an issue - like when the office hero comes in with a nasty virus and spreads it to all their colleagues - who in turn spread it to their families. As the partner of a civil servant working under this regime I get so sick and tired of hearing people droning on about things that they clearly have ZERO knowledge about or generalising about the good deals that a tiny minority may enjoy.
Employers do NOT own you and surveillance of this nature should be a last result for most extreme cases. This over-reaction seems to be a complete waste of the public funding that people have been wittering on about here. The sad thing is that when councilors and local authority executives are caught making whoopee with public funds there are few consequences beyond a golden handshake - see Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire - 2 neighbouring Welsh councils with similar issues.
I guess this means a commons committee to look into the situation - Experts in the field can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J8JA7LNUL0.
Where would this leave the trusty old tinned Frey Bentos steak pie?
Some people really do have too much time on their hands.
There is a huge difference between a tree falling across tracks and a train company saying "we cant be arsed to provide the premium facility we have sold". Prime is a premium service sold on the basis of a 12 month availability, for them to suddenly say sorry that's only going to be 11 months now isn't acceptable
If you cant see that you really need a reality check.
I think before the Test is altered the standard of instruction needs a serious looking at. I have seen instructors stop their pupils in the most ridiculous places to "chat". No wonder they behave like muppets when they actually pass the test - they have been given bad habits by their tutors!
I note that now it seems reversing around a corner is allowed downhill (coasting), whereas I had to perform that maneuver on level ground/uphill to demonstrate appropriate throttle and clutch use.
Who are the idiots who think that Slavishly following a Sat Nav is more important than being able to make basic maneuvers safely and competently. I am reminded of a woman who turned into a side street on her right - across the path of a friend who was proceeding along a road from the opposite direction. Despite hard braking and a swerve they collided, when he got out of the car she asked him "didn't you see me indicating?". There are far too many on the road like her already, without this "improvement" lowering the standard still further. The fact that it is supported by the Instructors body suggests they are looking to improve their pass rates by dumbing the test down, what next? demonstrating an ability to change a CD while driving at speed on a trunk road?
Would these be the same public libraries that are facing cut backs and closures due to the current austerity regime?
That would be about right for UK politicians, a lack of joined up thinking - or a devious way to dis-enfranchise the lower orders even further.
The price of mans curiosity about what is "out there" can be high. Luckily for mankind there are some brave enough to risk having to pay it. They are the modern pioneers, and deserve much respect.
Wont buy another thing with the Samsung name on it. I have found them to be less than durable.looks like it will be a Nexus, Fire or 6+ next.
We have a tax on television too, however you frame the name, its a tax.
The fact that VAT is already levied on Internet access isn't a bar to further taxation... think of motor fuel... Which comprises Item cost + (specific duty ) Fuel Duty + (General Duty) VAT. A lot of people forget we pay tax based on a value that includes a tax already included.
When it comes to helping themselves to our incomes Governments will always find ways to grab more and ways to justify it - except where restraint would affect their standard of living of course. Dont think it couldn't happen here - especially where we have a government that has recently found a way to ensure any vehicle sold mid month attracts a double licence fee for that month as you can lo longer sell a car with a licence included, and the system will show a vehicle as untaxed once the DVLA have been notified of a sale unless licenced by its new owner immediately - from the beginning of the current month of course.
Ive often wondered why BT exchanges don't (cant) "verify" valid UK STD numbers before connecting the call.
BT lost me as a revenue generating customer when I called them after many overseas calls and asked how I could bar international calls due to the nuisance, as I don't get personal calls from outside of the UK. The Droid I spoke to claimed it would be illegal to do so, and had no words when I pointed to the illegality of the calls under Privacy in Comms regulations AND asked why spoofing CLI data wasn't held to be a breach of BT's T&C (and thus allowing for a block legally) he just couldn't answer those points. My view is BT like the termination revenue they get for this.
I moved all my personal stuff to mobile, dropped all the premium services on my landline (which now only exists because we are blackmailed into supporting a voice service to have broadband) and unplugged the handset BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS.
We have weak and ineffectual regulation, both within telecoms and in business regulation where companies in the UK specifically use overseas centres to get around the privacy protections in place. AS ever it seems the rights of the individual take a very poor place to the scammers and schemers in big business, both here and abroad.
Finally reporting spam calls to OFCOM is no use. Report them to the ICO via webform, if we bury the ICO in reports maybe someone will realise that this is a real issue, because right now it seems that no one in power understands how widespread the problem is - or how ineffectual the current regime is.
I view this with the same suspicion I see "all female candidate list" political fudges, quite popular with some UK politicians.
The best person for a post is the one most skilled and experienced for the task surely? Gender shouldn't enter into it. This PC garbage really does society a disservice where it excludes the best/brightest in pursuit of some misguided diversity goal. To get the best you have to be the best, Gender doesn't enter into it. Ive worked for some female managers who were fantastic, very skilled and knowledgeable, they got where they are by being damn good, and that is the only thing that should count.
I'm sure it wont be a popular view... cue the downvotes... At least I'm not hiding behind A/C
The thing is there is the problem by where we have no relationship with Openjoke and it falls to the ISP to chase problerms. Some are great at this (AAISP for example) others really "CBA"
If they are not pushing really hard and persistently for a resolution then they seserve to lose the business and should not be able to hold customers to a contract where thiey are failing in customer service top provide an acceptable level QOS - one technically possible for that line.
My local Trading Standards were very helpful to me. when Pipox were throttling my connection daily from 3.30 pm I had a long chat with TS after Pipex denied all knowledge, It was so bad I was even having trouble with large content pages (simple text was ok but anything else? - Forget it!).
TS gave me chapter and verse to quote to them about the relevant legislation and the nature of their failure. Suddenly Pipex were willing to admit what was happening (it is now a widely known fact but at the time it was something they flatly denied.)
Just had something similar with XLNTelecom trying to sting my boss for £299 to migrate the out of contract Phone service at work, I clued him up about the rights of Domestic & SME customers since about 3 years ago and suddenly they backed down and offered him a retention deal instead.
The telecoms sector is full of scammers - its nearly as corrupt as Banking!
I seem to recall reading somewhere fairly recently about some SIMs being shown to have software included that deliberately downgrades service/reception quality for some customers on cheaper or PAYG contracts, I wonder if this is a case of borked "throttling" software being on SIMs issued to "lower tier" customers by a network?
OSX on Non Mac hardware is like popping a Zetec engine into a Morris Minor. Its possible, its been done a number of times, but takes a bit of skill and knowledge. In the average high street you cant buy a laptop without paying the windows tax.
As for inserting a disc and installing - My first home PC actually came with a disc containing windows. Now if your hard drive dies a couple of years into ownership you are screwed because they are too cheap to even give you a CD or DVD rom for the licence you are forced to buy.
I wont get into the ludicrous situation of trying to upgrade a current machine with a larger HDD, if I have paid for a licence then I SHOULD be able to use it even if I upgrade my machine. Redmond has long been an abusive monopoly in common with a few other businesses in the UK.
You got a reply? that's better than I managed. After some discussions about line length from exchange with a member on a broadband forum - who was taking Google maps as gospel, I informed the chocolate fireguard factory that they are showing my exchange some half a mile in the wrong direction. It figures correctly on street view on a major junction on the outskirts of my town, but the maps show it as being "in town". It isn't hard to find, it sits on the side of a huge roundabout!
No reply, and years later no resolution, so Google maps are considered inaccurate in my household and are never consulted.
The BBC is an arrogant white elephant that has become overblown with its own importance. How dare they presume to set themselves up as an authority on what people might be using a service for? The more pressing matter is the need to look at why they blew a shedload of money on an illogical move north and selling buildings that they then have to rent back.
I am forced to pay a fee to watch tv despite the fact that it produces NOTHING that I want to watch.
It is time it was subjected to the harsh realities of the commercial world and made to fend for itself rather than being able to leech off of many for whom it offers nothing.
(And I say this as a person who once believed it was a cornerstone of UK Broadcasting and quality production)
The output of TV in the UK is abysmal.
I hate to see too much pandering to the requirements of designers when the subject is vehicle lighting. There are far too many atrocious lighting designs on modern cars, clearly its a case of form over function which should NEVER be the case with automotive light design. Admittedly this affects the indicator and brake lamps more, but it illustrates nicely where the muppet manufacturers priorities are.
Motor vehicle lights are safety features NOT styling statements.
You seem confused about how unions work. The leaders do not dictate policy, that comes through the membership and the reps, sadly the fallacy that unions are run by and policy directed by the leadership is likely to lead to new laws in the UK that will effectively remove the ultimate action from the working man allowing companies to once again ride roughshod over the ordinary working man.
Its the same sort of ignorance we see with the "nothing to hide nothing to fear" mob, Governement and big business do not always know best and frequently will screw the little man to further their own ends regardless of how that im;pacts those further down. The same is true of the music dinosaurs. I work today - I must work again tomorrow to live, not keep claiming payment for stuff I did 20 years ago - or things my late relatives did.The only thing the music mafiaa are protecting is themselves, thier bloated organisations and their over indulged lifestyles.
Adam Kramer of Facebook is reported by BBC.co.uk as saying
""At the same time, we were concerned that exposure to friends' negativity might lead people to avoid visiting Facebook."
The guy is Missing the point. Its Facebook with its arrogant attitude to people and the fact that not all of us feel the need to plaster minutiae of our lives on the internet that leads many to avoid visiting Facebook, a fact I am relived to see is dawning on some of those I know who are Facebook users, and are cutting down or ceasing their use of the data-mining service. Many of us can see NO value in joining, For my part I feel that joining would lead to a deficit in privacy and the quality of contact with friends, I prefer to relate to my friends individually - I feel they are worth that time and effort rather than employing the electronic scattergun approach of spraying dull details of everyday across t'interwebz
Simply put Mr Kramer, Facebook really isn't as compelling as you feel it should be, and - happily - people are starting to question their participation in it. I have never been and never will bne part of it, companies that increasingly demand a facebook or twitter account to interact with them should take not of the fact that I am p[art of a sizeable section of web user, one that may well grow in the future.
This is as sinister and underhanded as subliminal advertising, and it is time that this "service" was more strictly controlled - those running it clearly have no morals when it comes to messing with other peoples heads.
Oh thats ok, its tame... now if it was "Backdoor Sluts 9".......