1678 posts • joined 11 Jun 2009
So have you actually tried one for more than an hour?
Some of us have found them pretty useful even after being initially dismissive like myself.
Indeed, as I mentioned above, if you don't like the spec then it wasn't designed with you in mind. But you could be surprised.
However, I can think of plenty that would find it useful.
Plus as I say to a lot of Chromebook skeptics, just try one. It's not the device to end all other devices it's another tool in your armory alongside, laptops, tablets and smartphones.
For me it fits the niche of "I like using a tablet but I miss the sheer speed of having a keyboard but don't want to lug around a full size laptop". My svelte 13" Dell just feels like putting breeze block in my bag.
For the price I'll thrash it for two years, buy another, log in in and I'm back up and running.
I got mine last Christmas
The OS is improving nicely and so far hasn't given me any niggles. It's become my travel laptop/device of choice over my 13" Windows laptop and 7" tablet.
As you say it tethers nicely and does the job.
The only issue I have with recommending them 100% is printing. For me its not an issue as I try to keep printing to a minimum. My take is if I have to print then I've failed but many shall we say 'senior' people love to print everything and that's the rub. Okay the setting up to print isn't tricky but for the average numpty its a few clicks and a new concept too far.
We'll see what develops this year.
Re: Is that enough RAM?
Well I haven't experienced any ram/performance issues with my 11" Samsung Chromebook.
Then again I'm a more 'normal' user in that I would only tend to have say 4 tabs open at a time.
I don't quite get the need for 40 tabs being always open as mandatory. Especially on a 11" screen.
Again it's probably a case of "if this device doesn't work quite the way you want it to, then it probably wasn't designed with you in mind".
Re: Mandatory comment on the resolution
Normally I would agree but on a 11" screen, its not that bad actually.
On anything 14" and above its criminal however.
Everyone should keep a pre-2003 Nokia mobile...
...in their Emergency bag, charged and ready!
I have thrown away numerous smartphones but I always keep my 6310i close at hand.
If the sh*t hit the fan big time its the phone I would take.
Re: So if we award all desktops to Microsoft then I make it...
Ermm I'm one of those lucky ones that only flies for when I go on holiday.
So my original point still stands. I'm on holiday, I have better things to do than pour over spreadsheets or Powerpoints at 35000 feet.
Oh I can still do spreadsheets on the Chromebook at 35000 feet too though. Email and text docs too in fact.
Sleeping or sipping a G&T is much better however.
Re: So if we award all desktops to Microsoft then I make it...
Useless if you are out in the sticks?
Are you one of those Chromebook deniers that's still living in 1998?
In this day and age, if I don't have an internet connection it's because I wanted it that way.
I just wish they would drop the whole 'terrorism' cover.
It's not terrorism this is being done for, it's full control of everyone.
The powers that be don't want any surprises as the world fills up and the resources dwindle. They want to be able to nip any dissent in the bud quickly in case what they have is in any danger of being taken away.
This is the 1% building their barricades for 20+ years in the future.
I think of all the 'Freedom BS' we used to hear during the Cold War when in fact those very Govts spouting about freedom were actually envious of what the communists were doing.
I don't have an issue if they try a few "turn it off and on again" type routines with the customer before a full return. Most people are numpties. I still see plenty USB cables pushed into printer ethernet ports. For the sake of 5 minutes on the phone.....
However, I do get annoyed if companies start denying all responsibility. If the product doesnt work it's not your fault but you sold it, take it back, deal with the supplier and make the customer happy. Not saying that's what Ebuyer was doing but it's a shame it still goes on today.
Re: The Mossie
Regarding WW2 tanks, a German Tiger Tank commander said this about the Sherman.
"The Tiger tank I controlled was worth four Sherman tanks. Unfortunately, the Americans always had five of them!"
Re: The Mossie
I always felt that bomber command should have removed all the guns and turrets from the heavy bombers. Their effectiveness was questionable.
It would have reduced the weight, made them more aerodynamic, faster and if a plane went down you'd have lost half as many men.
I much prefered the short lived...
...Bitch magazine from the early 90's.
Re: Seems a tad odd
Always good to get some extra 'click baiting' revenue in before the year end.
You'll see we'll have at least a few "Gartners say PC market is doomed" and "Windows 8 UI debacle" articles on the site before they break up for Xmas.
changing the OS so that you are not allowed a ' . ' in the file name is in order?
I bought the premium version of this over a week ago from FoolishIT. Still waiting for the key whatever. Not heard a peep.
Seems he's gone off the radar.
Re: Yes give it away for free..... genius!!
Why are you paying all that for 8 pro?
I get them for £50 on average. Also I'm not a corporation, just a one man band.
Where did you get that idea?
I've installed Windows 8 on machines going back to 2006 just fine. Very few have had UEFI BIOS.
The FUD people give into......
Well they do sell it cheaply to start with.
I bought a load of upgrades of Windows 8 Pro for about £20 each this time last year.
I still buy up copies for around £40 if you hunt places that haven't updated their stock records.
I think I paid about £20 for my copy of Snow Leopard from the Apple Store (for a Hackintosh), so that wasn't free.
I have founds voice recognition works much better...
...if you speak to it just like the voice it uses.
Use the slightly broken up cadence, middle england, speaking clock type voice and it works far better.
Okay you then tend to sound like Peter Serafinowicz doing a voice over but.....
The Start Button proper.....
....will appear ready for the next scheduled corporate refresh in a year or two.
MS knew 8 as it was would never be an 'enterprise/corporate' OS so took the opportunity to try some new approaches for the domestic market.
Re: Well For A Tech Site !!!!
Yep I tend to feel the same way.
Far too much unwarranted spleen really.
I saw a associate of mine that had a new desktop PC sitting on the table running 8.1.
Apparently a mate of his bought it to upgrade from his 10 year old XP PC. Apparently he spent just ten minutes using it and went "ahhh f*ck this!" and gave up. Just gave him the PC to take away. For some reason he was under the impression that after 10 years and three operating systems, nothing would have changed. No learning required at all.
The associate then said "well I agree with him! It's not like Windows 7! Can't shut it down, no start button, where is the desktop? (erm actually at the time it was sitting on the desktop so...anyway)"
I then took 30 seconds to show him where the Shutdown option was, the Start Button (just where the old one was) and how to boot straight to desktop.
So I now had it running like Windows 7 and the result? "Ahh well it's still crap!"
...is that 8.2 is another 3GB install that has to go over 8.1.
Why? Well I have Windows 8 Pro upgrades. So if I rebuild my Windows 8 machine then I have to install 8.1 and then another OS over the top to get 8.2.
Basically I'd like to be able to rebuild a machine in a couple of hours rather than 8 or 9.
I tried that too and it was horrible.
How do you get a job in recruitment instead, because it appears you do not require any intelligence at all.
Can't be that hard can it?
Re: The first hurdle....
Maybe just write the word 'Degree' on your CV, on it's own on a visible part of it.
Might get you through the first round.
"I didn't say I had a degree it just says the word 'Degree'!"
Re: Catch 22
How did that old Alice Cooper song go?
"Can't get a girl cos I aint got no car!"
"Can't get a car cos I aint got not Job!"
"Can't get a job cos I aint got no car!"
Ahh yes the 'Fast Trackers'.
We used to call then ACGD's.
Accelerated Career Graduate Dipsh*ts
"Hello! I'm your new boss. I'm 24 years old, left Uni 6 months ago with no work experience, never met a customer or worked in IT but I have a third rate degree in Philosophy! Pleased to meet you!"
Yayyyy we're saved!
Chip? Shoulder? Much? Damn right!
The first hurdle....
...is convincing Pam in the HR dept who is filtering all the applicants purely by "has a degree? Yes or No" to begin with.
Kind of makes it difficult for all of us IT guys that are 40+ that were told to 'get a job' at 18, have a wealth of real useful experience but no degree. We have the certs/experience/been round the block etc. but no degree.
Really great idea to make a degree the modern standard equivalent of "Maths and English O level".
Re: nice collection but a bit on the boring side
Well last week I picked up a mint condition Dell Precision T5400 Workstation.
Inside is -
2.8GHz Quad core Xeon with 12MB cache. (room for a second)
8GB DDR2 EEC Ram (room for 32GB)
I remember we used to use those for our engineers years ago. The main reason was due to them being about the only such device you could use outdoors which was quite important for such a device.
Back around 2006, we'd been using them for some time and I was organising getting in a refresh when one of the other IT guys who was managing a different fieldforce project stormed in and accused me of "adding another piece of kit to the portfolio of mobile kit!" Apparently he wanted to know why I was buying in these tablets when he had decided his guys were all getting Panasonic Toughbooks.
I simply said "Its not new tech as we've been using them for the past four years! Oh and I guess you tested the Toughbooks screen for outdoor use as well?...Cos these tablets are about the only device that works outdoors!"
He went quite pale and ran out of the office. I don't ever remember seeing any Toughbooks after that.
I have a pile of cream coloured envelopes.....
....sitting by my desk from my MPs.
You get a reply but nothing happens. The agenda continues.
Here's an idea.
A lot of people feel their vote is worthless and has zero power to change. So they don't vote. Spoiling your paper just sounds retarded and doesnt gain anything.
So at the next election why don't we try the following - Vote for anyone but the incumbent MP!
That way in theory every current MP would lose their seat, that would include safe seats, Cameron, Millipede etc. All gone. A total change at Westminster. Total chaos for all of them, total upset and a total show that the power to kick them out still rests with the 99%.
Sure we might still end up with a lab/Lib/Con/Co govt, but it would all be new faces and an extreme show of democracy. A campaign could even be setup to provide a more equal divide of the parties by advising voters the alternative to vote for in their ward to create a three way spilt or even a 4 way. Would be interesting to see how a govt would operate with 25% Tory, 25% Labour, 25% Lib and say 25% Independants.
Would be a more useful use of a vote I reckon.
....have all run the figures through their think-tanks etc.
They know that with increasing population and dwindling resources, if they want to keep what they have they have to clamp down hard on the rest of us so we don't dare get up and take it back.
So all this terrorist crud is really a smokescreen to enable them to deal with any 'troublemakers' in the future that might stir up the masses to realise what's going on. Stamp on any dissent. In the meantime they will continue syphoning off all we have and locking themselves away safe from harm.
The western Govts of the world are terrified of another 'Early 90's Eastern Europe' scenario happening. Whereby enough people wake up one morning and think "Hey, you know what? This isn't working for me anymore! It's time for a REAL change!"
If Russell Brand had kept going on about the politics I wonder how long it would have been till he was found 'accidentally on purpose' dead in a hotel room.
You know what.....
...I've never had the desire to buy a radio that has a brushed steel effect kitchen cupboard handle glued on top of it.
Other than how DAB ever got past the basic testing phases all those years ago, I'm still puzzled that this (what 25+ years now?) tech hasn't reached 'given away free with 4 litres of oil' status yet?
Don't worry he's another one of the regular Walter Mitty types around here.
This is the one that said all soldiers should be issued with 50 calibre Desert Eagles as the side-arm of choice.
Yet here we are discussing passing on a donkeys year old and vastly inferior (hardware/usability wise) net book that was designed to last a year tops...
Plus I'd rather try replacing parts in a corporate Lenovo than any crappy netbook.
Re: Cruel and Unusual Punishment
Yes but it didn't use option windows that were 350 pixels deep did it?
...throw it away and buy a second hand Thinkpad or the like.
Nothing puts people off computing whether it be Linux or windows than a crappy slow netbook experience. Any machine that requires you to have to move standard option menus up and down due to limited screen depth is an instant non-starter.
They filled a niche back in 2006-8 but their time since is passed.
I now in most cases refuse to support them. Luckily most of my customers who had them took the advice and dumped them for tablets or better laptops.
Slow netbook is...slow netbook.
Since I've had my Samsung a year the 13" Windows laptop I have gets very little use anymore.
Won't find Windows or OSX in my travel bag these days.
Normally I would agree but on a 11" screen 1366x768 actually works fine for general use.
However, a move to say 1440x900 as a minimum would be nice.
Maybe next year.
Had good results...
...with the new 500GB version of the Momentus, 'The Slim' . But that's in Windows installs. Worth the money for the simple boost it gives.
Currently running the full desktop size 1TB version in my work machine and it's working a treat.
I remember back in the early days of the 360....
...there were games that needed the TV to be set at PAL-60. I only had one such game (The Outfit??) but it caused issues. Haven't seen any of those since 2006.
The vibe I'm getting from both Sony and MS is that no one likes proper product testing. And certainly not testing it with anything more than 6 months old or isn't just laying around campus.
Re: Microsoft account needed for Facebook? ??
I have to admit this trend of having to have successive accounts to access material is getting very tiresome. I'm thinking of just abandoning several of them.
Re: Say What?
@drxym Yeah really the full reviews for the PS4 and One should come out in May 2014 which by then both systems should be pretty much as intended from day one.
Also why I never buy a new console for 6 months.
Re: Where did I hear this before ...
If you look at the fans in both machines they have taken very different directions.
The fan in the PS4 is a pretty standard almost laptop cooler type whereas the One has what looks like a 140mm fan in there.
Re: The blue light issues have undermined what was an otherwise solid PS4 release for Sony.
I think the issue here is that the previous generation suffered from numerous cock-ups and lapses of QC and attention.
You would have thought after all these years, this time around things would be monitored with a higher level of scrutiny and testing.
Re: This is why...
Thats where I am too.
I guess you can give up caring about that when 85% of your business/income is from the disposable world of phones.
Take it or leave it I guess.
Re: Still a problem for non-techies
Not really, fully aware of the need to protect 'important' data etc. from preying eyes.
I just like to tease the Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible Wannabes. You know who you are.
Yes when they let Jacobi be The Master, I thought "Oh that's inspired!" and then they changed him almost straight away to Simm it was "oh that's predictable and disappointing!!"
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