1714 posts • joined 11 Jun 2009
Are not 'essentially useless' without a internet connection.
Many of the functions still work in some way. In this modern age many devices other than Chromebooks/boxes are a bit limited without a internet connection.
However, quite why you would pay that much for a Chrome device I don't know.
It's a bit like taking a Bic Biro, maybe putting Quink ink in it and selling it for £75.
Re: @jason 7
True but what you say to one and what you say to many can differ.
The fact is he said that the figures for renewables don't add up. He didn't have to agree with me, it was just a casual off the cuff type of chat. He wasn't after my vote.
I have heard other Greens say that nuclear is the only real choice.
They know as well as I mentioned earlier, that as soon as people can't heat or light their homes the green argument against nuclear etc. is finished. The public will demand nuclear yesterday.
I guess it's just hard to abandon your public mantra after so many years when hard reality hits you in the face.
"If it was all exploited then we could power the country 5 times over."
Constantly 24 hours a day, 365 days a year?
Re: Politicians pandering to the Greens are the problem not the EU
Actually I was chatting to a Green Councillor a few days ago regarding the power shortages we may well be getting.
I said that we need to stop messing about and build at least 5 new reactors ASAP ans renewables are not the full answer.
He nodded and agreed. He said that many in the Green party are waking up to the fact that wind and solar won't cut it in the long run and nuclear is the smartest option going forward. Voters will soon drop their eco warrior stance when they can't charge their iPads and Prius.
His and my fear was that it won't happen till it's too late and the whole build process will be a 'rush job'. Not what you want in this case.
He's only a Mac user after all. You don't expect him to know much about tech.
Dives for cover.
Getting everyone to code is just as daft...
... as pushing everyone to go to University to acquire unrealistic job and wage expectations.
Re: I can't code.
Now if we team up would rule the world...
I can't code.
There I've said it. I've been around computers for 33 years of my 43 years on the planet. I can pull them apart and put them back together with my eyes closed, teach total novices to use them but coding...nope.
I just don't get it. I've tried but it just doesn't go in. The logic of it all I cannot see.
I remember being sent on a Lotus Script course many years ago (why? I don't know, I did argue it was a waste of time) and sat there as the tutor asked everyone to tell their coding experience. Person after person reeled off C++, cobol, pascal, Java blah blah blah. Every language you could think of.
Then it came to my turn.
"Erm...BBC B basic, computer studies O level 1987!"
I could physically feel the eye rolling and teeth sucking going around the room.
It got even worse when I asked a few minutes later -
"Erm excuse me...what does concatenation mean?"
So I just sat there for two days after I got totally lost 20 minutes into the course. Nice visit to Cirencester though so not all was lost.
So much money.....
....to spend on so much disappointment.
I mean really, how do you motivate a bunch of nightclub thugs who earn £200k a week to give a damn?
I bet all of them are told by their 'real' managers who pay the wages to not take any risks and to get back home ASAP.
Expect a lot of nil-nil draws in Qatar for the next one if it goes ahead.
I wouldn't class having to reboot...
..it twice a major cause for concern. Its just rebooting.
I booted it up, said it had X number of updates. I updated. It asked to reboot.
I then rebooted and then it said there were some more available if I wanted them. So I did.
No biggie. It hadn't been used for a month.
I think the point is that its bizarre one OS gets crticised for updates...when they ALL get updates.
I fired up my copy of Fedora yesterday.
That required 30 updates and a reboot.
After that it said there were 20 more...and another reboot.
How does anyone get any work done? Sheesh.
Re: Not fit for purpose
"Why aren't we allowed to know who is accused and of what?"
I guess because it involves some new or undisclosed form of surveillance that is highly contentious and probably illegal in most courts.
Re: It seems to me...
There is disparity in the industry.
Look on Ebuyer and the most expensive AMD A8 laptop is a £620 HP with 4GB of ram and a 500GB 5400rpm HDD.
Thats it! Some with 8GB but nothing special to tempt you. All with mundane HDD tech.
As for Intel? £2200 and every price and option downwards.
To be honest I've been going smaller and smaller with storage on my mobile devices.
My Widows laptop had a 500GB HDD whch was swapped for a 120GB SSD. I've now moved my most used data into Google Drive so that I don't need masses of storage and have now swapped the 120GB for a 60GB. However, as I now have a 11" Chromebook the Windows laptop doesn't get the usage it used to.
My days of storing masses of data on portable/mobile devices are over. The bulk data sits on my workstation, Google Drive or NAS at home.
Works for me. YMMV obviously.
Well I never understand the comments that say...
"It just grinds to a halt with 200 browser tabs open..."
Ermmm maybe its not the Chromebook that has the problem.
Instead of walking away...why not actually try one for a couple of days?
A lot of us were quite sniffy until we tried them.
Re: king of foo
Another factor is that if MS switched on all the security and restrictions (user accounts as default and not admin/EMET/DEP etc.) included in Windows by default there would be carnage.
Average users would moan at the restrictions or extra passwords they would have to use. Not to mention all the poorly or out of date coded software that would be rendered useless by DEP/SEHOP etc.
Damned if they do...
And at the end of the day ...
...in 99.99999% of cases its probably still perfectly good enough to stop the guy that nicked your laptop or picked it up on the train after you forgot it, from looking at whats on it before he sells it down the pub for £40 and a dodgy copy of Windows 7 gets slapped over it by the new owner.
A little bit of perspective here...
Since I've had a smartphone...
....with a keyboard I've used SMS more and more. It's the default messaging service that everyone will have.
In fact myself and my general community use SMS pretty much most of the time. Fast and simple.
Not to 14 year old girl from 2008 levels of use but when you have 2000+ texts a month to use...
Oh and we use full English spelling too.
So chances are you'll be using such a machine on a desk rather than your lap or on the train.
To quote Blackadder kinda...
"So some sort of larger external screen is required?"
I guess on this machine the screen included is really a mere courtesy or a real (ahem) power user would use it in a dual screen setup anyway. Just use the laptop screen for email/browsing while doing the real work on the 24" or higher.
Might be big....
...but I'd wager it will still be working fine long after those slimmer boutique style mega gaming laptops have died from heat exhaustion (or lack of).
I love to see democracy in action.
"...and I said with all the dignity I could muster...is this any way to run a f***ing ballroom?"
Turns out in the Fett movie...
...instead of Fett being a money grabbing amoral anti-hero type like Snake Plissken...he has a heart of gold.
Well who would have guessed.
To be honest they could remake Fistfull of Dollars and A Few Dollars More as Fett movies. Would be a interesting twist.
Facial closeups could be a issue though.
I thought the current situation was -
1. Design an original device concept.
2. Announce original device concept.
3. 24 hours later get blown out of the water by Apple/Google/Cisco/MS/HTC/Broadcom/Intel/Monster/EasyJet legal dept with patent infringement on the basic gist of 5% of the overall concept (say the device requires some form of electricity to work or you need to touch it).
4. Sign everything over to one or more of the above for next to nothing.
5. File for bankruptcy.
Rinse and repeat.
Very much first world flaws though...
I think one could survive.
Re: I have been a fan of the Xbox360 for years...
Indeed, bot the PS4 and the Xbox One are very lackluster.
How bad is it really? Well nearly 7 months on and I still don't know anyone that owns either one.
"Not bothered this time!" is the comment I hear most.
Last gen, by this time I knew more than half a dozen with 360s.
Re: This hybrid laptop/tablet approach still doesn't work
How many other mainstream tablets are if you are asking?
Re: "Surface ***3***. i.e. this is our 3rd attempt after 2 dismal failures"
Apple TV took how many attempts before it was usable out of the box?
Re: "people like to work offline"
I have to eye roll when I see the "Yeah but Chromebooks don't work when you are offline!" comment.
1. They do.
2. Most of us don't chose to live in 1997 anymore.
You can run Office on Chromebook now.
So thats another hurdle cleared.
Bought my Chromebook in 2013 and enjoy using it. Just another tool in my IT armory.
Re: Things are hidden :-(
Turning off the SSID? How very 2003.
Erm I do actually. Most of them are far better equipped than you state. Maybe you didn't try hard enough to find better value and powered kit?
Most of the charities I've worked for are running ex. corp Dell Optiplexes circa 2007. Dual core with 2-4 GB of ram, Win 7 etc. etc. I can pick them up for around £100 a go. Most of the ones I do support for are running a decent Dell or HP Xeon server or two.
Need to try harder for them. Good stuff is out there if you look. So yes, Windows 8 will work fine for charities.
It will run fine on anything with a dual core and 2GB of ram basically. Any PC pretty much since say 2005 really.
Yup, its now pretty much the product it should have been at launch, had Sinofsky not been on such an ego trip.
Then you need speakers or headphones that will actually output above 22kHz.
Not that many about last I looked.
Re: Do Apple want the streaming licenses from Beats?
Tax write-off then?
Re: A fool and his money are easily parted.
A case of the Kool-Aid supplier drinking someone else's variant of Kool-Aid?
The headphones will disappear..
...or at least the (ahem) technology will. As someone else said "lot of money to pay for bass boost!"
It's the streaming Apple wanted.
As for Pono...what an ugly device. Surely a small desktop unit would be more popular for that crowd of grey haired baby-boomers with sub par hearing and money to burn...again?
...owner of 07777 number.
Re: What about?
Oh dear how did some of you survive before the flat screens arrived?
Just buying a dumb monitor instead for TV?
Do you really need that 50" screen?
Re: Of course...
Yeah he turns up and is given an empty office with not a lot to do.
Or a door that only opens from the outside.
NASA incoming lawsuit in 5...4...3...
Have you tried routing the DNS through the FamilyDNS settings too?
Re: Trend Micro delivered this message in 2008
If only all the suites were not such a kludgey, shouty, paranoia, terror creating mess it wouldn't be so bad.
Why does each part of the suite appear to have been written and designed by different teams in isolation for a start.
Re: The truth from the greatest liar?
That quote is going to haunt then for a long time...
A definite Ratner moment.
Re: AV never was any good
And 24-48 hours behind the curve.
Re: One good thing Microsoft has embraced and extended
I never understood why the big AV companies never took a leaf out of MS's book on AV.
Just release a decent product that does a single job quite well and without all the fuss, complexity and nagging.
MSE isnt perfect but it does the job without any hassle or constant nagging. The only issue is that as its so popular its the main target and its really only a baseline level of defence.
All we want is a lean efficient AV software that just installs, scans and updates in the background. A single notification icon bottom right is all that we need to know its there.
Dont need link scanning, email scanning, network lock downs, child monitoring, arbitrary trusted app levels, convoluted firewall blah blah blah...
It's Channel 4 News for us.
Has been for about 8 years now.
If we catch BBC News at 6 or 10pm for some strange reason (like watching BBC at all?) it feels like watching John Cravens Newsround but not so grown up.
Re: Doesn't add up
Yes if a guy came up to me and said he could sell me a machine that would make gold from nothing...I'd be suspicious.
"Hmmm well why aren't you using it then?"
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