1777 posts • joined 11 Jun 2009
Re: Netbook market
Everyone I have shown my Chromebook to has gone "oh wow, this is sooo cool!"
Several of my tech buddies have said "this is the solution for my parents!"
Several in my small business network are interested in it too.
All Google has to do is really start pushing it. I think they also need to smarten up and simply the whole Google Apps/Docs thing. It's a bit fuzzy at the moment.
Oh and it runs linux. Just...(adopts ObiWan Kenobi voice and arm gesture)...not the Linux you are looking for!
Re: Multiple accounts?
I currently have three Google accounts on my Samsung.
My main account. A Google Business Apps account and a junk account to let people play around with when I demo it.
All work independently.
Re: Naive & sentimental comment -
Well it seems the problem is that the Govt's own watchdogs just want to look the other way.
I think what has happened is that a lot of people have been 'gotten to' by the banks and the big corporations.
Take a look at the faces of the regulator lawyers in the US when grilled and asked some straight questions.
You can almost see the look of "god don't let her ask about the brown envelopes!"
Re: Daft name
Yeah I walked into an Alpaca Pete's shop in the US and they didn't sell a single Alpaca! Just loads of products made from them.
Who would have thought.....
Re: Daft name
Been there 24 years apparently.
I was there last summer with friends.
Nice little shop.
We all jokingly remarked that we were surprised that Apple hadn't squashed them from orbit in some legal challenge (which is kind of a shame that we all thought that as soon as we saw it) and wondered if anyone had been thick enough to call them for Apple support.
We concluded "Well we are talking about Apple users here!"
Oh how we laughed that crazy hot summers day in Wroxham.......
Re: I'm sure I can beat 37 out of 37
One day someone really clever will design a plug for computing that actually works. Currently every one of them has some form of flaw.
Thinking of writing to my MEPs.
I find it hard to equate a corporations Green credentials when it now makes impossible to fix/upgrade products using lots of rare metals that is designed to last one week past warranty.
Any device like this should be mandatory for the user to be able to replace the battery and the storage device as a minimum.
With dwindling resources of metals like silver it's crazy that this kit is now classed as purely chuck to landfill and replace.
With a few user replaceable parts there is no reason for laptops and tablets to be able to function for 5+ years.
Sod obsessives and their aesthetic needs, we live in a world that needs to start thinking about making stuff last longer not shorter.
Re: Linux is a strong solution
I'm counting the days till we get the following post from him saying -
"NEITHER! THEY ARE BOTH FAIL! Everyone knows that Linux is a far better solution than Coke or Pepsi!"
Then we can call in the guys with the white coats.
Re: Backup needed
Sleep mode and SSDs are a tricky mix. I tend to switch off most of those options when using SSDs.
Re: No need for any cache - just go pure SSD
No your point was just totally over the top. Try a little less testosterone in your posts maybe?
Re: No need for any cache - just go pure SSD
"And a 512GB SSD would be enough for what exactly ?
Booting the OS maybe and just that blah blah blah."
My goodness you build some shitty computers! I wouldnt ask you to run my IT dept!
Re: Missing - hybrid drive?
Yes its all in the access times really. Once you get over 150MBps with near instant access times then application opening etc. becomes moot.
Re: Sandisk Extreme
Ebuyer have them for £85.
I have bought half a dozen of the Sandisks (Ultras and Extremes) all of them have worked fine.
So the lesson here is....
...just buy the Sandisk Extreme? That it?
Well It's what I've done already.
No you have to see the funny side.
Yes linux may finally get the desktop/laptop exposure it's always wanted. However, it just wont be the crappy distro/KDE/Gnome/CLI clusterf*ck version of it that the linux fans always dreamed about.
Now thats worth £220 of my money to make that happen and I did.
Yep everyone I've shown my Chromebook to really likes it. Several on order or purchased.
Re: Nexus 4...
No you just hold back until the press starts getting negative.
Re: Nexus 4...
Hmmm yes cos the folks at Google are just too smart to not realise selling a top of the range smartphone for half the price wouldn't have been a sure fire hit.
They didn't underestimate demand at all. They had already had dry runs of this marketing technique with the Nexus 7 etc. You want to tell me that Google makes those mistakes over and over?
Make it scarce and buzz gets around and more folks want one. Being scarce isn't necessarily a bad thing, it doesn't reflect badly directly on the product. Folks hear about so many people wanting it and they want in too.
You as a company look a bit of a twat but you just pull the "we didn't realise this product was going to be so danged popular defence!" Then once the buzz settles you release the 4 million in backstock into the channel.
In an alternative universe......
....Ms rolled out 5 million Surface Pros and got slagged off for only selling 1.5 million of them in the first week leaving retailers with masses of unsold stock after 7 days on sale.
No win situation......
Re: What happend to the company providing kit to do their dirty work with?
Yeah but that might work for the gadgeteers that know how to configure a pagefile etc. but what about the rest of the staff that dont have a clue about how to setup a laptop properly?
Again BYOD only works for the tech smartarses and gadget showoffs.
Office Willy waving of the next generation. It's just another way to create a pecking order.
As an aside the IBM Thinkpads and Dell lattitudes our corp issued us with worked fine. Maybe some firms just need to find better build teams.
Re: What happend to the company providing kit to do their dirty work with?
And most average joe's home hardware is any better?
I service normal computing folks gear for a living. I have to antibac it before touching most of it let alone have it connect up to a corporate network.
I have to say that laptops costing more than £400 are pretty rare. Not to mention most don't have a working copy of Office or legit software on them.
BYOD was thought up by an small elitist bunch of gadgeteers that didn't want to be part of the herd. However, as usual didn't bother to think how the rest, that really don't give a crap about their computer hardware and showing off how much disposable income they have would fare.
What happend to the company providing kit to do their dirty work with?
Why are we all wanting to let the company off their duty to provide the tools to do the work?
I would never use my kit for company use. They want me to do the work, they provide the kit.
If this carries on soon you'll find a electricity meter sitting beside your desk that you'll have to fill with your own 50p pieces.
The problem Apple has now.....
...is that they have painted themselves into a corner design wise.
If they design anything with the slightest hint of any other manufacturers previous design then they are in for even more legal battles.
So they either just keep reconstituting their current design or they come up with something totally un-phone like.
Re: Appel one..
The iPhone doesn't really have any cachet any more though. It's the most common phone around.
When everyone is the same no one is special.
If I see someone I know brandishing an iPhone proudly I just adopt Lili Von Shtupp's accents and say "Oh an iPhone...how ordinewy!"
You should see their little faces drop. Awww bless.
Let the market decide!
That is all.
Re: @Arctic Fox
Yes prolific with the same post over and over and over again......................
There is a time and a place to put your reasoned argument or counterpoint in a discussion where it can be effective. However, just saying the same thing every time just makes your argument less effective as people either think you are a crank or just blot you out as background noise. Maybe the person has some kind of mental issue. One that involves fixation on a single topic. Would explain a lot.
Yeah its odd. A version of Ubuntu I installed in 2010 was screaming at me that it was no longer supported just a few months ago. Had to install a new version which surprise surprise had a new UI to it!
But that's all okay I guess as it's linux.
One rule for one........
" hyping new versions for more money or ensuring old versions of Windows quickly run out of support"
But it you look more closely MS doesn't really do that. When does official full support for XP finish? Thats 12 years old already. Not exactly putting a gun to users heads is it?
Every version of Windows I've bought since XP has cost me less.
Re: IBM's arrogance was that they could make standards ..
Yeah its like digital cameras. The £70 one and the £400 have the same chips and sensors its just that the £70 one has the settings reduced in the firmware to make the £400 one look far better.
...a little bit of Token Ring's efficiency creeping into Ethernet.
Always feel with Ethernet I have a huge V8 Muscle car that's always stuck in first gear.
Damn you Microsoft! Die Dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
...oh...hang on, wrong topic, got carried away there!
I do apologise. As you were.
Has the words...LIABILITY
written all over it.
Hang on, do people think that the recognition factor/looks of a machine factor into improving performance/value for money?
What a funny world we live in.
Erm my other half makes responsive websites that automatically re-adjust. move content and resize depending on orientation and screen size. Took her about a day to learn that a few years ago and now puts it into all her sites.
But then again we've seen there are web designers and there are people who pretend to be web designers.
You get what you pay for.
Doesnt anyone do any bloody testing anymore?
Yes its tedious and boring but it stops you looking a twat later on!
Re: Installed ...
Ditto, Nexus 4.
Yeah that's the joy of having a proper mobile browser. Mates laugh at me when they say the Playbook has hardly any apps. Well when you have a proper browser you don't need that many.
Whist they are dicking around with some hokey third party app, I'm using the full meat and potatoes version on the web.
Reliance on specific apps for web services just reinforces the fact your web browser isn't a proper grown up one with all the features.
Once people get to know more about ChromeOS yes there will be a market for it.
I've had one for a week and already four of the people I've shown it to have bought one. These are ordinary folks and small business people that really do 90% of their computing in the web with a bit of word processing and the odd spreadsheet.
Normal folks just want something quick and simple to use. ChromeOS does just that. No real need for IT support either. That's the big worry for a lot of people here. If ChromeOS goes big a lot of people will be surplus to requirements.
Google just needs to start pushing it. It has a mighty marketing arm and so far I think it's just been doing an extended beta test.
The computing experience for the masses is about to arrive.
Re: Jason 7 - Confusing
No I'm in Norwich, Simon Wright is my MP.
You write to your MP, they then pass it on to the MP/minister/dept responsible and then you get a response back.
I have to say the responses you get back do appear to have had some thought. Not just canned replies.
I remember seeing a documentary on the TSR2 that had some retired Shop Steward grinning from ear to ear about how it all went down.
Basically management would tell the shop stewards that the next phase of work had to be completed in 30 days. The Steward said that 30 days was perfectly acceptable to do the job in but they would demand 90 days instead so the workers could do as little as possible. Apply that attitude throughout a whole project and you can see why it was canned and jobs were lost.
He however, sat there looking very smug and satisfied with himself. All just a big laugh!
Re: Petition, anyone?
I often wonder how effective and value for money all these BAe jobs are.
Say the average BAe worker earns £50000 a year. How much against that is the taxpayer subsidising that wage?
If those £50000 jobs are costing the taxpayer £2 million each to keep.............
Re: Why the love for all the US aircraft?
Plus you really don't need anything too cutting edge when your main adversary is roaming around on a donkey or in a toyota pickup truck.
The only likely 'toughish' foe we have on the horizon is Argentina. However, if conditions there go further downhill then the Presidents diversionary tactic of "oh look at the Falklands, not at how shitty things are at home!" wont really come to anything.
I wrote to my MP about all this.
Asking that it was about time that the relationship between the MOD and BAE was investigated by the serious fraud squad.
The reply from Peter Luff was most upset that I had raised the possibility of fraud and money wasting.
According to him 89% of BAe's programmes are on budget and 71% are on schedule.
Room for improvement I'd say.
My own MP when sending me the reply back mentioned that "you may be disappointed with it!"
Yes I think some people still feel internet connectivity is still like it was in 2002.
As for the Samsung's screen brightness, mine has a manufacture date of Jan 2013 and at full brightness its really is quite bright. In fact I have to turn it down a couple of notches. Maybe they have made some changes. The viewing angles still aren't that great but....it was £220!
Re: "..at $329.99 "
You are thinking old school here.
Just how often is the average small business or home worker not connected to the net when they are actually wanting to work.
Hardly ever. Maybe when I'm on holiday in the wilderness..but I'm on holiday. not working.
For most small businesses and self employed folks their data storage needs are tiny. A USB stick can handle all the data for some firms that have been going for 15+ years.
They don't tend to have 2TB of movies and music installed on their work machines. Being able to share their data and have it backed up is far more important. Plus with ChromeOS the need for a dedicated IT support is pretty much removed. I guess this is what most fear.
For a lot of individuals and small businesses its becoming very attractive.
Re: My Samsung Chromebook turned up last week!
Well I've run several Office docs on it with no issues and the Docs app appears to have all the core functionality I need. It's at least as functional as Office 2000 it seems.
So should suit 98% of people out there.
But...it does involve a little change (and it is little) in usage patterns and as we've found a few around here do have learning difficulties when it comes to change.
My Samsung Chromebook turned up last week!
Been out of stock for weeks!
Have to say its a great bit of kit. Great to use. Even works offline for the 2 minutes a week you might not be connected somehow.
Much better than a netbook, for me its far more usable (for the realistic, normal user) without the full linux bloat and an extra 168 pixels of depth. Would have preferred a 900 depth but it is only £220!
Worth a try.
Bought my ARM shares for £1!
Glass of port anyone? Chin chin!
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