1192 posts • joined Thursday 11th June 2009 11:27 GMT
You can see how its dividing up in the forums.
Those that just consume and are of the skinny jean and white plimsoles persuasion love it and feel that desktops should be banned.
Then the rest that are just too tired/jaded to go through this crap and just want to get on with our tedious dreary jobs creating stuff and trying to make money with the minimum of hassle.
I've been using this system for nearly 20 years I really really don't care about Metro, sorry kids, Dad's not interested.
Take it out of 8 for Desktop/Laptop and leave all the nice improvements like the Task Manager etc. and let us get on with trying to keep our jobs.
One of those features......
hardly anyone uses.
I used to use it about 7 years ago to hook up a GPS unit to a smartphone but it was a PITA.
Abut as useful as those PCI-e slots on laptops. At least they dont bother with those anymore.
Feedback from folks I've shown it to so far....
These are normal XP/Windows 7 users -
"How do I..?"
"Why is that....?"
"I give up!"
"Okay okay I'll buy that Windows 7 PC!"
"I'm buying a Mac next time if this is what it's like!"
Glowing I'm sure you'll agree.
Yes I thought VAT on oil and gas etc. were kept low so as to stop old people freezing to death in their homes due to energy being way too expensive otherwise, because we don't have enough of it.
No one likes piles of codgers piled up in the streets every winter. Doesn't look good.
Missing some points here.
When I go into Game and look at the second hand games 95% of them are trash titles that should never have been launched in the first place. For every AAA title you may find there will be 50 Z list titles around it.
So in the long run it may mean the second hand game market dries up a little but it could also mean that if folks are more choosy about what they buy (as it seems by the second hand racks a lot of people buy crappy games a lot) then the games developers are going to have to make sure their titles are the ones people are going to really want to buy.
So it may mean less games released a year but the quality could improve a lot more. I'm all for that.
As for doing away with optical media I'm 50/50 on this. I knew there was a good chance that MS would rather die than out a BD drive in a Xbox but they could have used a modified HD-DVD drive as the tech was theirs and I bet there is still a warehouse in eastern Europe somewhere full of old HD-DVD drives that are bought and paid for.
I still use my 360 as my main DVD drive but I have never played an audio CD in it. Not really suitable. I've always fancied going back to cartridges since the days of my Morrowind DVD constantly playing up on my original Xbox.
Re: Have you seen their prices?
You don't think its actually women that buy that stuff do you?
I have offered to buy that sort of stuff fro my Gf many many times. Always she says "That stuff just isn't comfortable or practical to wear for any length of time!"
The fact that she only has to wear it for around 20 minutes maybe is lost on her.
Most purchased AP underwear never gets worn I bet.
Amazing bonus of Windows 8. Thanks Microsoft.
Since I have installed Windows 8 on a tablet laptop, I've been hawking around some of my customers that have been dawdling over upgrading from XP to 7.
I've sat them down with the Windows 8 laptop and asked them to play around with "the very near future".
All of them have now given me hurried orders for WIndows 7 machines.
Windows 8 - The best selling point for Windows 7!
..I just wish our country would stop dicking around and pandering to focus groups and just build the 5 or so nuclear reactors we needed to have built at least 5 years ago.
Get on with it.
How else will all the self-styled eco-warriors charge up their iPads and warm their Starbucks lattes?
After two hours using it......
....I've come to the conclusion that it's WIndows 7 but they have just made it 10 times harder to use.
I can't see how its slicker, quicker or more intuitive at all. The corporate feedback on this will surely bring on a u-turn from MS?
The main problem I have is that there are no prompts or breadcrumbs as to where I should go or do to get to things (still haven't worked out the proper gesture or sequence of stuff to get that right hand side menu up, unless spastic clicking-jiggle is the right thing to do). Plus it seems I'm having to use hot keys and the keyboard more where with all previous versions I'd just click with a mouse.
It's like an motorway system with the road signs removed. Interesting as an experiment but bloody tedious very quickly.
Re: Just installed it.
Okay I've found them.
But seems an awful lot more travel and clicking to get to stuff. Like clicking on My Computer, to get to properties I now have to right click and trail over to the other side of the screen to select Properties.
That just seems daft, then I have to go back to the desktop to use it.
...am I missing something here or is this just a major step backwards? I haven't felt this lost since I went from 3.1 to Win95 but after a few minutes I was fine.
Has anyone at MS sat their mum or dad down with a Windows 8 PC and said "there you go, do the following tasks!" and just watched what happens?
Just installed it.
I sat down to try it cold as a normal user for the first time.
So ...errrr.....where are all the applications like Notepad,etc.?
Where do I find them?
I don't need 95% of the stuff on the Metro page but the stuff I do need I cant find anywhere.
I'm trying to be clever and clicking on blank parts of the screen (there are lots of those) and that doesn't do anything' but make the desktop go small (why do I need it to do that?).
I did click somewhere and got a bit up the right hand side that gave me some options but I lost it and cant get it back.
I feel like one of my ordinary customers that hasn't had the benefit of 20+ years PC experience like I have. It's really humbling and to be honest a OS shouldn't do that.
I am not looking forward to rolling this out to my long term XP/Vista customers. It will be carnage.
Re: Played with it yesterday
Yeah the 360 is now a nightmare to use with a controller or the DVD media remote. Just doesnt work. So slow too.
A big step backwards. The UI just doesnt let you move around the mass of (let's be honest here) junk that takes up most of the features of the 360 setup.
MS meeds to junk a lot of the so called features and streamline it big time.
I cant imagine a lot of folks using the Zune movies now so thats one item that can go.
Re: Tesla is the future, old people....
This expensive fragile toy isn't the future.
Cheap, no frills 1000cc 4 seater commuter cars with high efficiency twin turbos are the future for most of us.
Simple Solition - Ban Powerpoint
You can then get rid of 25% of your workforce with no reduction in performance.
If fact it should improve as people can do real work.
Re: Re: standard definition
Nah it's crap.
Luckily at home I have a rare 32" Sharp Perfect PAL TV that has a 960x540 screen so it matches up nicely pixel to pixel (you dont see 35 lines or so as its hidden in non image data) with SD Freeview and DVD material. Looks fantastic with none of that horrible upscaling pixel wobbling you get pushing it up to a 1080 screen. Plus if you push 1080 material through it then its a very neat 50% downscale and it still looks great. My friends still comment on how much better and smoother the 360 looks playing on my TV in 1080 downscale than their mega screens.
My dad bought a 37" 1080p Panasonic a few weeks ago and the SD material looks really messy on it to me. HD looks good but anything else you have to sit 15 feet or more back from it to not see the 'bubbling'.
Why didn't they choose screen standards that properly scale up and down?
Havent bought from them in a while.
Used to use them all the while but just not the cheapest anymore.
I still use their site to spec up builds for a rough price as its the fastest for that.
Then I go to Ebuyer who usually end up £5 cheaper and also give you free delivery, to purchase.
Dragons Domain support group.
It's really odd I remember a few years ago I mentioned being scared witless at this episode on another forum. The reaction was much the same as here. Loads of 40 somethings all saying "Oh my god, I'm not the only one!" You could almost sense the relief.
I haven't come across anything else like it. I wonder if whoever wrote it realises they managed to create such a 'terror' for so many.
I'd shake their hand and buy them a pint.
I also watched several episodes of UFO a couple of years ago.
I had to make sure I wasn't watching the same episode over and over (I wasnt) as each one had roughly the same plot.
Which is -
Stryker sits pensive in his office/bunker, annoyed over some office politics. Meanwhile moonbase picks up three inbound UFOs. Interceptors launched to intercept. Two are destroyed and the third damaged, crashes on earth and has to be located. Meanwhile Stryker deals with office politics.
Not the most exciting show I've ever seen.
....terrified me as a kid back in 1975. I was only 4 but remembered those skeletons being spat out vividly. Stuff of nightmares. Slept under the covers for years after that.
Was intrigued to watch that episode again in 2009 when they were all repeated for the first time since I was 4. A cathartic experience. Most odd.
Season 1 holds up the best though Season 2 mission jackets were cool.
Dunno about a reboot as the original premise is pretty ropey really.
"Limiting what you can do with it..."
Well thats music to many many corporate IT depts the world over.
A remote device that the users have little choice in the junk they can install on it but has all the main apps the corporation uses for work.
Vinyl listeners - cloth ears?
I've listened to many turntables from Amstrad to Linn and they all have the same issue. The needle drops, pop crackle, crackle then after about a minute you get into it, past the surface noise. Then you get 5-10 mins of reasonable sound. Quite enjoyable. Then physics and the inherent limitation of the media kicks in as tracking distortion mounts. Then its 10 minutes of nails down a blackboard as the distortion becomes really noticeable. In this instance you cant help but 'listen to the hardware', the limitations are hitting you over the head.
This is on properly aligned decks too. After 20+ years of CD/digital sources I just cant get past the distortion of LP. Yet if you mention this on a audiophile forum they all say "No I cant hear it, rubbish!" To me its far far worse than what you could possibly get while listening to a 160k digital Ogg stream on Spotify through a £40 soundcard.
Which must prove they have terrible hearing. Which is why they can enjoy it maybe? Good for them is all I can say.
I was one of those.....
...that had a full Meridian Audio setup, would strip and clean my system down every few months, had the spiked tables, the £200 cables between CD player and amp etc. etc.
All you do with those setups is listen to the hardware, not the music. Very few 'audiophiles' ever learn this or will admit to it. They cant as they feel idiots to admit they spent all that money and have forgotten the key element in it all...the tunes. Just enjoying the tunes.
Since then the Meridian gear has gone into storage (I might get it out as an ironic joke one day) and most of my listening is now done on a separate PC speaker system through a Spotify account on my PC.
I now listen to far more music and really enjoy it. I don't care what the hardware is doing anymore.
The secret is....
....not to let yourself get into that truly awful situation where you cant stand average TV audio.
I'd dread to think how some would manage if faced with a truly life threatening situation.
Evolution rather than revolution
I don't think the next gen from MS and Sony will be as big a leap as the current gen were.
The bar is now set at 1080p and both companies will have done their market research and probably found that folks dont want to pay that much this time round and also they will not want to make such a large loss per box as they did back in 2005/6+.
Anyone expecting 6970 GPUs and 12 core CPUs with 16GB of ram are going to be disappointed not to mention a little delusional.
Try a Sharp instead.
Had a £120 Sharp soundbar demoed to us a few weeks ago. Then we listened to a £400 Sony one. The Sharp one weed on the Sony from a high height. I didn't buy either was just curious.
As for the reason behind Soundbars over multi-speaker setups is that not all of us are that anal about having full surround and also we don't like having wires and boxes strewn around the living room. I've seen very few surround systems that look or even work nicely. Most are just a mess.
Some folks just want to add a bit of oomph to their inch thick TV.
I dont think its about the GPU anymore.
After all it only has to push say 60fps at 1080p. A modded/optimised 6770 could probably manage that. The standard is now set very low. Back in 2005 that would have been a tough point to reach with average hardware.
I think the secret is to bump up the CPU side and do more interesting effects in software. That and bump up the cache/ram side of things. But as MS will probably utilise a modded DX11/12 platform it could make it difficult for developers to go off-piste so to speak.
Yeah new dash is terrible.
Easily the worst one its had so far. Just trying to find stuff is hard enough. Up down up down, left right up down. Jeez.
I still think the first or second dashboard the 360 had was the best.
I was hoping too for some new hardware this year.
Started using Love Film online a few weeks ago.
I have a 16Mbps ADSL link and picture quality is pretty good. Only get a bit of pixelation when something goes really crazy on screen.
Not that much different to Freeeview. The only criticism is as mentioned previously navigating the collection is really horrendous and time consuming. A lot of gems are really hidden away if you are just browsing.
Using anything with the new Xbox 360 interface...
....is nigh on hopeless without a bloody Kinnect. As I'm 40 I refuse to buy such a thing.
Worst user interface the 360 has ever had. Awful.
Hitting back a couple of times then takes you to a "Go back in icon" that just takes you back to where you wanted to leave. The whole across the top and then up and down...christ.
Bought it 17 years ago?
At the bottom of the market. A one bedroom flat would maybe have cost around £30000.
May well have been paying £50 a month mortgage on it.
I know as I got my one bedroom flat in a city centre for that around then.
Currently got it down to £40 a month.
Comet is a mess.
Went into my local Comet superstore a couple of weeks ago, it was awful.
No real organisation, the flat screen TVs had no sense of organisation. All the sizes randomly scattered around so you couldn't get any idea of comparison. New stock mixed in with old etc. etc.
The best bit was their clearance table. All the stuff that by the looks of it had been run over or used as a doorstop in the back of the store. All with an amazing too good to resist £1 off!
Exactly, hilarious he's making a remake....
....of a perfectly good TV movie as his last film.
How the mighty have fallen.
The original movie isn't bad so why bother? Oh I guess no one was around to say "George wtf are you doing that for????"
Not an original idea in that head....ever.
The guy retired pretty much after 1983.
Nothing really of note since then.
He got lucky with the first Star Wars movie and had a lot of people around him keeping him under control and telling him in no uncertain terms "George, that's a load of crap!" and therefore it was a vastly better film for that. By RoTJ things are starting to go astray and mistakes of judgement are being made.
Since then no one has ever dared tell him to his face when he's going wrong. Except the 7 billion that don't work on his payroll.
If he had kept a few strong personalities around him and listened to a few folks then it may have been very different.
It's just so sad to watch those making of scenes on the prequels where you see talented actors running around empty green draped hangers for sets giving no emotion or depth to them. Whilst Lucas sits a few feet away looking at a monitor with a latte in hand. No wonder all the performances are totally flat. Must be soul destroying for an actor.
I remember Terrence Stamp summed it up nicely when he said that at first he was quite excited to appear in a Star wars movie till he realised he was just in a glorified toy catalogue.
I agree to a point.
I have the WD 7200rpm 320GB in my laptop shortstroked to 100GB. Works a treat. Plenty of space still.
I also agree that this doesnt fit all folks. I just dont see the need to carry my entire 'digital life' around with me. I have yet to find myself needing 278 hours of audio or the contents of Blockbuster video on the go. Very few folks want to look at my 407 holiday snaps of Canada 2008 either.
Plus if you lose that laptop......you did encrypt it didnt you? Ahhh I guess not.
I think you might find Aviva sold the two data centres in Norwich and moved all their kit out some time ago. The two centres have been fully refurbed and are now run by Sentry42 and very nice they are too.
Sentry42 would be more than happy to have Aviva put their data back in should their current system not be up to scratch.