Re: What's the point of upgrading
Buying a new PC?
A month ago I picked up a mint Dell Precision Workstation from 2008.
Dual 2.8Ghz Quad core Xeon CPUs, 8GB of ram, 875W PSU etc. etc.
1990 posts • joined 11 Jun 2009
Buying a new PC?
A month ago I picked up a mint Dell Precision Workstation from 2008.
Dual 2.8Ghz Quad core Xeon CPUs, 8GB of ram, 875W PSU etc. etc.
Haven't we discussed this about nine times already in the past 12 months?
Article looks pretty identical to those as well.
Nah, wimpy single core CPUs, slow SSD/HDDs and highly inadequate 600 pixel depth screens was more of a hindrance.
Parts bin specials for clearing out old tech.
People say MS limited the spec but remember the first ones launched by surprise from Intel/Acer/Asus with Linux installed and the hardware spec didn't radically change much from then on when Windows appeared on them several months later.
Looks like a space invader to me.
Loads of features, gives as good a performance as my old Draytek before it and costs less than a third of this Linksys.
5GHz wi-fi is very handy living in a city centre too.
..actually at £18.75 a month it does start to make DAB in the car look far more attractive.
...of calling my customers every time their Yahoo email is hacked. Keep telling them to move.
Yahoo basically has zero security. Makes one wonder if there should be regulatory penalties for such things.
Who in the Average Joe world cares about 'open and community driven'?
If it really really mattered to the masses, Linux would be king by now. But who is to say that had Linux become the dominant OS, that big corporate interests would not have moved in and basically taken it over as well. If there is a buck to be made...someone wants to control it.
No, folks want roughly what they are used to and for a good price and size. Everything else is secondary if considered at all.
Does it do what I want with the minimum of hassle?
Ethics rarely comes into gadgets.
Well most people saw the netbook as a handy alternative to lugging a 14" (as they mostly were then) laptop around on holiday.
My laptop back then weighed over 3kg with a brick for a power supply so wasn't a nice thought.
So the use of them for email and a bit of web browsing on hols etc or as a cheap machine for the kids to play on was all well intentioned.
Shortly the shortcomings you list bit hard due to average folks not having a clue about hardware specs and their ramifications. The love turned to hate.
Then tablets arrived that did the whole internet, media consumption and time wasting in a far more expansive and instant manner and netbooks were dead in the water.
Still they had their 15 minutes of fame.
For me Chromebooks are essentially a tablet with a keyboard. Bridging the gap between tablet and full laptop.
Well a search on 'Netbook Spec restrictions' seems to point the finger at both Intel and MS. MS more for machines that wanted to run Windows 7.
Seems Intel set the original spec (Netbooks started with linux after all) that doomed them. Always saw netbooks as a way for Intel to clean out its crap low power stuff that the industry demanded but no one actualy wanted at the time.
It wasn't software or cost that was Netbooks problem.
It was Intels crappy hardware spec restrictions.
Using a netbook was not a satisfying experience whether using Linux or Windows. The poor screen depth and slow CPU just killed the experience for me and many others.
(sits looking accusatory at his long abandoned Acer One wtih Ubuntu netbook edition on it's 8GB SSD)
Amazes me how many laptop reviews we have where people pile in going "Screen not good enough!" but netbooks always get a free pass on that one when their screens couldn't even handle most task/action windows.
....didn't she get pictured at the big BB launch last year Tweeting from....her iPhone about how great BB was?
One would have thought someone would have told her.
So have you actually tried one for more than an hour?
Some of us have found them pretty useful even after being initially dismissive like myself.
Indeed, as I mentioned above, if you don't like the spec then it wasn't designed with you in mind. But you could be surprised.
However, I can think of plenty that would find it useful.
Plus as I say to a lot of Chromebook skeptics, just try one. It's not the device to end all other devices it's another tool in your armory alongside, laptops, tablets and smartphones.
For me it fits the niche of "I like using a tablet but I miss the sheer speed of having a keyboard but don't want to lug around a full size laptop". My svelte 13" Dell just feels like putting breeze block in my bag.
For the price I'll thrash it for two years, buy another, log in in and I'm back up and running.
The OS is improving nicely and so far hasn't given me any niggles. It's become my travel laptop/device of choice over my 13" Windows laptop and 7" tablet.
As you say it tethers nicely and does the job.
The only issue I have with recommending them 100% is printing. For me its not an issue as I try to keep printing to a minimum. My take is if I have to print then I've failed but many shall we say 'senior' people love to print everything and that's the rub. Okay the setting up to print isn't tricky but for the average numpty its a few clicks and a new concept too far.
We'll see what develops this year.
Well I haven't experienced any ram/performance issues with my 11" Samsung Chromebook.
Then again I'm a more 'normal' user in that I would only tend to have say 4 tabs open at a time.
I don't quite get the need for 40 tabs being always open as mandatory. Especially on a 11" screen.
Again it's probably a case of "if this device doesn't work quite the way you want it to, then it probably wasn't designed with you in mind".
Normally I would agree but on a 11" screen, its not that bad actually.
On anything 14" and above its criminal however.
...in their Emergency bag, charged and ready!
I have thrown away numerous smartphones but I always keep my 6310i close at hand.
If the sh*t hit the fan big time its the phone I would take.
Ermm I'm one of those lucky ones that only flies for when I go on holiday.
So my original point still stands. I'm on holiday, I have better things to do than pour over spreadsheets or Powerpoints at 35000 feet.
Oh I can still do spreadsheets on the Chromebook at 35000 feet too though. Email and text docs too in fact.
Sleeping or sipping a G&T is much better however.
Useless if you are out in the sticks?
Are you one of those Chromebook deniers that's still living in 1998?
In this day and age, if I don't have an internet connection it's because I wanted it that way.
It's not terrorism this is being done for, it's full control of everyone.
The powers that be don't want any surprises as the world fills up and the resources dwindle. They want to be able to nip any dissent in the bud quickly in case what they have is in any danger of being taken away.
This is the 1% building their barricades for 20+ years in the future.
I think of all the 'Freedom BS' we used to hear during the Cold War when in fact those very Govts spouting about freedom were actually envious of what the communists were doing.
I don't have an issue if they try a few "turn it off and on again" type routines with the customer before a full return. Most people are numpties. I still see plenty USB cables pushed into printer ethernet ports. For the sake of 5 minutes on the phone.....
However, I do get annoyed if companies start denying all responsibility. If the product doesnt work it's not your fault but you sold it, take it back, deal with the supplier and make the customer happy. Not saying that's what Ebuyer was doing but it's a shame it still goes on today.
Regarding WW2 tanks, a German Tiger Tank commander said this about the Sherman.
"The Tiger tank I controlled was worth four Sherman tanks. Unfortunately, the Americans always had five of them!"
I always felt that bomber command should have removed all the guns and turrets from the heavy bombers. Their effectiveness was questionable.
It would have reduced the weight, made them more aerodynamic, faster and if a plane went down you'd have lost half as many men.
...Bitch magazine from the early 90's.
Always good to get some extra 'click baiting' revenue in before the year end.
You'll see we'll have at least a few "Gartners say PC market is doomed" and "Windows 8 UI debacle" articles on the site before they break up for Xmas.
changing the OS so that you are not allowed a ' . ' in the file name is in order?
I bought the premium version of this over a week ago from FoolishIT. Still waiting for the key whatever. Not heard a peep.
Seems he's gone off the radar.
Why are you paying all that for 8 pro?
I get them for £50 on average. Also I'm not a corporation, just a one man band.
I've installed Windows 8 on machines going back to 2006 just fine. Very few have had UEFI BIOS.
The FUD people give into......
I bought a load of upgrades of Windows 8 Pro for about £20 each this time last year.
I still buy up copies for around £40 if you hunt places that haven't updated their stock records.
I think I paid about £20 for my copy of Snow Leopard from the Apple Store (for a Hackintosh), so that wasn't free.
...if you speak to it just like the voice it uses.
Use the slightly broken up cadence, middle england, speaking clock type voice and it works far better.
Okay you then tend to sound like Peter Serafinowicz doing a voice over but.....
....will appear ready for the next scheduled corporate refresh in a year or two.
MS knew 8 as it was would never be an 'enterprise/corporate' OS so took the opportunity to try some new approaches for the domestic market.
Yep I tend to feel the same way.
Far too much unwarranted spleen really.
I saw a associate of mine that had a new desktop PC sitting on the table running 8.1.
Apparently a mate of his bought it to upgrade from his 10 year old XP PC. Apparently he spent just ten minutes using it and went "ahhh f*ck this!" and gave up. Just gave him the PC to take away. For some reason he was under the impression that after 10 years and three operating systems, nothing would have changed. No learning required at all.
The associate then said "well I agree with him! It's not like Windows 7! Can't shut it down, no start button, where is the desktop? (erm actually at the time it was sitting on the desktop so...anyway)"
I then took 30 seconds to show him where the Shutdown option was, the Start Button (just where the old one was) and how to boot straight to desktop.
So I now had it running like Windows 7 and the result? "Ahh well it's still crap!"
...is that 8.2 is another 3GB install that has to go over 8.1.
Why? Well I have Windows 8 Pro upgrades. So if I rebuild my Windows 8 machine then I have to install 8.1 and then another OS over the top to get 8.2.
Basically I'd like to be able to rebuild a machine in a couple of hours rather than 8 or 9.
I tried that too and it was horrible.
How do you get a job in recruitment instead, because it appears you do not require any intelligence at all.
Can't be that hard can it?
Maybe just write the word 'Degree' on your CV, on it's own on a visible part of it.
Might get you through the first round.
"I didn't say I had a degree it just says the word 'Degree'!"
How did that old Alice Cooper song go?
"Can't get a girl cos I aint got no car!"
"Can't get a car cos I aint got not Job!"
"Can't get a job cos I aint got no car!"
We used to call then ACGD's.
Accelerated Career Graduate Dipsh*ts
"Hello! I'm your new boss. I'm 24 years old, left Uni 6 months ago with no work experience, never met a customer or worked in IT but I have a third rate degree in Philosophy! Pleased to meet you!"
Yayyyy we're saved!
Chip? Shoulder? Much? Damn right!
...is convincing Pam in the HR dept who is filtering all the applicants purely by "has a degree? Yes or No" to begin with.
Kind of makes it difficult for all of us IT guys that are 40+ that were told to 'get a job' at 18, have a wealth of real useful experience but no degree. We have the certs/experience/been round the block etc. but no degree.
Really great idea to make a degree the modern standard equivalent of "Maths and English O level".
Well last week I picked up a mint condition Dell Precision T5400 Workstation.
Inside is -
2.8GHz Quad core Xeon with 12MB cache. (room for a second)
8GB DDR2 EEC Ram (room for 32GB)
I remember we used to use those for our engineers years ago. The main reason was due to them being about the only such device you could use outdoors which was quite important for such a device.
Back around 2006, we'd been using them for some time and I was organising getting in a refresh when one of the other IT guys who was managing a different fieldforce project stormed in and accused me of "adding another piece of kit to the portfolio of mobile kit!" Apparently he wanted to know why I was buying in these tablets when he had decided his guys were all getting Panasonic Toughbooks.
I simply said "Its not new tech as we've been using them for the past four years! Oh and I guess you tested the Toughbooks screen for outdoor use as well?...Cos these tablets are about the only device that works outdoors!"
He went quite pale and ran out of the office. I don't ever remember seeing any Toughbooks after that.
....sitting by my desk from my MPs.
You get a reply but nothing happens. The agenda continues.
A lot of people feel their vote is worthless and has zero power to change. So they don't vote. Spoiling your paper just sounds retarded and doesnt gain anything.
So at the next election why don't we try the following - Vote for anyone but the incumbent MP!
That way in theory every current MP would lose their seat, that would include safe seats, Cameron, Millipede etc. All gone. A total change at Westminster. Total chaos for all of them, total upset and a total show that the power to kick them out still rests with the 99%.
Sure we might still end up with a lab/Lib/Con/Co govt, but it would all be new faces and an extreme show of democracy. A campaign could even be setup to provide a more equal divide of the parties by advising voters the alternative to vote for in their ward to create a three way spilt or even a 4 way. Would be interesting to see how a govt would operate with 25% Tory, 25% Labour, 25% Lib and say 25% Independants.
Would be a more useful use of a vote I reckon.
....have all run the figures through their think-tanks etc.
They know that with increasing population and dwindling resources, if they want to keep what they have they have to clamp down hard on the rest of us so we don't dare get up and take it back.
So all this terrorist crud is really a smokescreen to enable them to deal with any 'troublemakers' in the future that might stir up the masses to realise what's going on. Stamp on any dissent. In the meantime they will continue syphoning off all we have and locking themselves away safe from harm.
The western Govts of the world are terrified of another 'Early 90's Eastern Europe' scenario happening. Whereby enough people wake up one morning and think "Hey, you know what? This isn't working for me anymore! It's time for a REAL change!"
If Russell Brand had kept going on about the politics I wonder how long it would have been till he was found 'accidentally on purpose' dead in a hotel room.
...I've never had the desire to buy a radio that has a brushed steel effect kitchen cupboard handle glued on top of it.
Other than how DAB ever got past the basic testing phases all those years ago, I'm still puzzled that this (what 25+ years now?) tech hasn't reached 'given away free with 4 litres of oil' status yet?
Don't worry he's another one of the regular Walter Mitty types around here.
This is the one that said all soldiers should be issued with 50 calibre Desert Eagles as the side-arm of choice.
Yet here we are discussing passing on a donkeys year old and vastly inferior (hardware/usability wise) net book that was designed to last a year tops...
Plus I'd rather try replacing parts in a corporate Lenovo than any crappy netbook.
Yes but it didn't use option windows that were 350 pixels deep did it?
Since I've had my Samsung a year the 13" Windows laptop I have gets very little use anymore.
Won't find Windows or OSX in my travel bag these days.