2320 posts • joined 10 Jun 2009
"Google should remove links that are old, out of date or irrelevant and - significantly - found not to be in the public interest."
What is old?
Do you want Google, Microsoft and friends to decide what is irrelevant or not in the public interest?
Is there some standard test for what is in the public interest?
However, the ruling continues to be a load of crap.
How is Google the polluter?
MS replace the profitable feature phone line they burned by supplying free OS to no-name Chinese phones.
Re: This isn't what you think it is.
They may get something from a University or such that is not paying "project managers, admin staff etc" who will be quite happy with a million.
Re: I think...
My dad used to pickup train cars loaded with new cars being shipped from Canada down to the US, cars going all the way to Florida or Texas still had sticker prices thousands less then the same car sold across the street from where it was assembled.
When the Canadian $ went down, book prices went up (even when printed in Canada), when the Canadian $ went back up, prices didn't drop at all, but they did stop printing both the US and Canadian price on the books.
They just charge as much as they think they can.
They took all those old ideas and added "on a mobile device" to get new patents, now they can do it all over again with "on a wearable device".
Re: Good to know
No you are reading it wrong.
It's more like...
If you are not a multinational with offices in the US you can piss off.
Rape the assets and walk away.
pr0n was actually rather popular
Or maybe it's the other stuff that they block as well, things like online translators that might be used to get round the filter.
Re: So many redundancies
It's the standard easy way to make the stock go up, at least for the short term. Good for an executive bonus at least. See HP.
Re: I'm guessing she's there because of the fiasco that is...
No, I expect she is looking into ways to get cash back into the US without paying any tax.
Re: Never mind that
You want Google or Microsoft deciding what is in the public interest?
This whole thing is as dumb as a bag of hammers.
I don't see what the size of the offended party has to do with it.
Because large corporations wrote this thing. It's going to be setup to work for large corporations with teams of lawyers on staff. In the same way a corner shop can't assign their trademarks to a postbox in a tax haven the way Starbucks can.
All that testing is cutting into profits. Sure our new super addictive happy pill has killed a few people but our profits are up 47%.
Blame the telco
They like android because they can install all kinds of crap if they want. But if you buy anything but the newest top of the line phone you can forget them providing any upgrades at all.
So Google wants to be able to upgrade more of the phones features from the app store.
They want to compete with Apple who don't let the phone companies control the upgrades. If Google upgrade android from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 the phone companies don't give a crap, they just want you to buy a new phone every 2 years anyway. But now more stuff is part of the google blob so you can upgrade your camera from the google play store without needing an OS upgrade from the phone company.
The only thing they should be looking at is to make sure they are not pulling a Microsoft and using incentives to make sure all of a companies devices are google devices. If Amazon want to make a google phone, but keep selling the non-google fire that should be OK.
I would not be a scout leader now if you paid me, even though I had a great peado free time as a cub and scout when I was a kid.
Re: Lot Of Sick F*cks Out There...
Re: for some definition of paedophile...
That's the same defense given against the ivory trade. "it's okay to buy it because I am not directly killing the animals"
That is a bit like the "you wouldn't steal a car" line though. Every bit of ivory is part of an elephant, and you can only sell it once. Ivory porn would be a picture of a piano. It might even be a drawing, or CGI rendering of a piano.
Re: for some definition of paedophile...
"The police do not spend 6 months investigating and then make an arrest for a handful of links in someones history,"
They also don't just happen to arrest 600 people at the same time unless it's a circus.
Re: Police declined to explain how they "snared" the suspects
Yes IF they have arrested people found with actual kiddy porn... Good Job!
If they were an IP in a log file, or a couple of thumbnail images, or a cartoon that looked like she might be under age, or credit cards again. BAD. "Kill them all and let God sort them out" is not how you should run a police force.
For people who don't buy every upgrade
Loads of people went from 2003, to 2010, and are not even thinking of 2013... how much more will Office 365 cost people like that? Of course that's the reason MS (and Adobe) are pushing the rental model.
And once they force every one onto the rental plan they will not even have to bother updating the software until the free software catches up at least.
Re: Once a trouble maker always...
"This is why only a fool would allow the source code out."
The programmers and others at the company already know the source code.
So if it's as crap as you say any one of them can pick the winner. Or maybe the owner of the company would like a change to the tax laws to go through, have his company get more contracts...
such a request could “leave the voting system open to hacking or manipulation"... by other people?
The source code includes variables like "Desired_Winner" and "Winning_margin" ?
The hard coded admin password is 1234?
How can you tell? Is it a different shade of brown then all the other turds?
I thought the mail one would be useful, until I had read all my new mail and the stupid thing started distracting me by displaying old read emails. Disabled.
It took very little time for me to disable, and shrink all the live tiles on my surface. Out of the box it was like a web page full of Flash ads.
The two things that bug me most
Other then the Metro crap UI are #1 the simplified error message, making most of them say "something happened" (even if you look in the event log) is not helpful. #2 now setting are scattered in even more places.
How is it going to talk to the heating system?
"In Europe, however, where thermostats either have to be mains-powered – which means a more challenging 240v install – or battery-powered, it’s more of a problem. In this respect, wireless is less life-threatening"
Sure the wireless thermostat can talk to the internet, but how is it going to talk to the heating system? Your going to have to connect something to the heating system and your right back to 240v.
The real advantage of wireless is being able to put the thermostat in a good spot instead of were it was easy to run the wires.
They want a big pile of cash like Apple
So if they make expensive locked down devices they will get a big pile of cash right?
Re: RE: "Without your consent"
"You may find that you have already given consent!"
You went and turned it on, didn't you...
Why, we might as well have been buying AIR
No they bought a fart.
The whole thing was stupid from the start.
A phone and a tablet, sure not that hard. I have some android apps that work fine on my phone and tablet.
A phone and a mufti-monitor desktop? No, it's going to be shit for one or both of them.
If they can come up with some good 30 second games it could be useful when watching TV...
Re: Great little box
Lots of luck with the firmware update. The one I bought got a hardware update (didn't change the model number, you had to check the SN# to know what one you had) and people with the old version only got one minor bug fix, then it was "go buy the new one".
Re: Funny ...
You think they have been sitting on their hands since April?
I expect the new law took them 5 minutes, but they waited to sneak it in at the last second so they would not have to deal with people saying this one is just as bad as the old unlawful law. They figure someone will come up with something to distract people by the time they get back.
There is no point making a challenge to our new emergency law since it will automatically end in 2016 when we will have a new law that everyone will like...
Re: Just use profiles
Only on a tablet, not on a phone.
My Nexus 4 - no profiles
Nexus 7 - has profiles.
Sounds like a little kid.
But Mom, Billy did it too.
Hay Apple, if Google jumped off a bridge would you jump too?
I just stand outside and use their wifi.
It could have had much the same UI as Windows 7
Beta Windows 8 did have that feature. Just had to change a registry entry and you got your desktop back. But the people who though Metro was a good idea had it stripped out for the final release.
It's no fun if you can't just pick out the bits you like.
Like the DMCA
Who is Google to decide if something is in the public interest? Can you even define what "in the public interest" is, or is it one of the I know it when I see it type things?
They are a company so they only care about what is in the companies interest, if they don't de-list something they could end up with court costs defending that.
If the request comes from Joe Average guy, they can ignore it. From a lawyer, or a corporation? Link is toast. Only in the most black and white cases will they not remove the link.
As I said before this will be just like Youtube and the DMCA. If Youtube get a takedown request your video is toast. Even if it perfectly legal and it's now your problem to get it put back. This is abused on purpose to get rid of stuff people don't like, or in error by automatic systems. I have personally experienced this when one division of a major record label proved me with material to promote a bands appearance and approved the final site, but a different division of the same company had the site taken down with a DMCA request a day later.
How did they control for free WiFi
The local Cable monopoly (Rogers) have routers* that provide two SSIDs, One secured, and a guest SSID that appears to be wide open but requires you to open an HTTPS: webpage and enter a password (so all your non SSL traffic is not encrypted).
*That only need to be rebooted a few times a week.
Re: commendable. But...
Maybe they could add features so it becomes popular for people sending friends pictures of their food, or subscribe to the funny cat video of the day. Make it so 99% of the traffic is useless crap.
You sound like Faux News.
Re: Easy access? on iOS there's...
Yes both Android and IOS have controls but I think a lot of them were added after Apple got a good kicking for living off the avails of scam apps. My old iPod touch only had a small subset of the stuff you list and they made it real easy to setup an account linked to a credit card and everything wide open by default. You could setup an account without a credit card but is was a bit like setting up Windows 8 without a microsoft account.
As for Google, the playstore gift cards have been available in Canada for about half a year, and have only matched the wide availability of iTunes cards for a few months.
stop buying freemium games
"State police were unable to circumvent the encryption used by criminal suspects in nine cases last year"
Were they people who had already been caught once with a wire tap? I think that would be much stronger reason for a drugy to encrypt then the Snowden news in main stream press.
Re: Direct Opposition
"despite some concerns about the scope with which the program has been collecting information on US citizens."
And shipping it off to their friends in England, Canada, New Zealand...?
Re: The ear can't hear square waves.
You might feed a square wave into a speaker, but it's not going to be very square when it comes out as sound. Even if you could move (and stop) the speaker cone fast enough the air it moves compresses.
Re: Just drop the damn thing when above the point you want to be above...
I expect this was an off the shelf RC toy (toys can be expensive and still be toys) and I don't think I've seen one with a "drop stuff" function as some idiot would think it was a good idea to drop darts or something like that on people.
You could add it, but that would require skill knowledge.
Re: Never ascribe to malice…
No Amazon don't care (much like ebay) it's easy to find blatantly obvious bootleg DVDs. But they jump if they get a complaint from a big company with lawyers on staff.
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