540 posts • joined 10 Jun 2009
As the Home secretary is so keen to retain all our communications, and as the internet purely exists for the propogation of cat pictures perhaps we should all send emails to our elected representatives with those lovely, large HD pics of kittens as attachments to ensure they have all the data they need?
Given the mission
"Ego ex officio" - "I am out of the office" according to the oompa loompas
Re: Get a grip
Of course it is because every mugger tweets about it first before they go and mug a granny!
And it was overwhelmingly successful in averting the bombings on the 7th of July and in stopping the murder of Lee RIgby, except it wasnt and it didnt despite the fact the people involved where all on the watch lists and well known to the security services and police.
Sucide bombers dont care if the data is retained, what are you to do with it? prosecute the crater they leave?
I thought our elected representatives worked for us and not for Google?
Its also frightening that someone with as much power as Simon Hughes does not understand the basics of the data protection act or the obligations of Google as a data controller.
Re: Who Said She Said @james
Because of course a woman scorned never has an axe to grind!
Your assumption that whatever is filed in the suit is true is the same mistake people made over the president of the Oxford union when he was accused of rape.
Will be interesting to see both sides of the story.
Re: Who Said She Said
Problem is that they where in a relationship that went south at some point.
Whats the betting that the relationship ended and all was fine until one party started dating someone else?
The moral of the story is dont use your work email to tell your significant other that you want to butter her muffin!
Here we go again
We already have mass surveillance and it clearly doesnt work, all that Treasonous May wants to do is add a legal shine to what they have been doing for some time.
If she doesnt want the British public to be misled then she should resign to prevent that happening.
As for the Labour party and its plans for IMP, they can fuck off as well.
I am confused
She sat in front of a parlimentary committee and admitted paying police officers for information, what more of a smoking gun do you need?
Well that's O2 subscribers fucked then
Given that O2 is owned by telefonica which is also a foreign company then if Charles "gone to" Farr is correct they can slurp all of that as well.
What did you expect
when you put together a "journalist" with poor research and understanding and someone who runs a site packed full of misinformation which will also be subject to this ruling?
Jimbo is shitting himself that he will have to correct a boat load of bad information and/or face legal actions and costs as he is now subject to EU DP laws.
The real issue
is one of jurisdiction.
Google wanted the courts to accept it processed data in the US and only flogged ads in each country, this actually runs counter to what it told parliment in the UK when it claimed it sold everything out of Ireland.
Google and others will operate with impunity until jurisdiction is established in each area.
As for that Wales character his fear is being forced to take responsibility for the mountains of incorrect and irrelevent shit on wikipedia as he is in the same boat.
Re: Won't someone please think of the trees?
Re: Won't someone please think of the trees?
"None of the evidence says that"
Yes it does:
"projections assessed by the US National Research Council (2010) suggest possible sea level rise over the 21st century of between 56 and 200 cm (22 and 79 in)."
"Melting of the Greenland ice sheet or the Antarctic ice sheet would produce 7.2 m and 61.1 m of sea-level rise, respectively. The collapse of the grounded interior reservoir of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet would raise sea level by 5–6 m"
"sea level rose approximately 20 m over a 500-year period about 14,200 years ago."
Selective quoting is only going to make you look like a twat Mr Anonymous.
In pulling the scary soundbites you missed this from the same section:
The melting of small glaciers and polar ice caps on the margins of Greenland and the Antarctic Peninsula melt, would increase sea level around 0.5 m. Melting of the Greenland ice sheet or the Antarctic ice sheet would produce 7.2 m and 61.1 m of sea-level rise, respectively. The collapse of the grounded interior reservoir of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet would raise sea level by 5–6 m.
The interior of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, as of 2009, was sufficiently high (and therefore cold) that direct melt would require several millennia. They could do so through acceleration in flow and enhanced iceberg calving. Also, melt of the fringes of the ice caps could be significant, as could be sub-ice-shelf melting in Antarctica.
Climate changes during the 20th century were estimated from modelling studies to have led to contributions of between −0.2 and 0.0 mm/yr from Antarctica (the results of increasing precipitation) and 0.0 to 0.1 mm/yr from Greenland (from changes in both precipitation and runoff).
Estimates suggest that Greenland and Antarctica have contributed 0.0 to 0.5 mm/yr over the 20th century as a result of long-term adjustment to the end of the last ice age.
The current rise in sea level observed from tide gauges, of about 1.8 mm/yr, is within the estimate range from the combination of factors above but active research continues in this field.
In 1992, satellites began recording the change in sea level; they display an acceleration in the rate of sea level change, but they have not been operating for long enough to work out whether this signals a permanent rate change, or an artifact of short-term variation.
So in highlighting your soundbites you conveniently ignored the important bits about "millenia" and the minor issue that Antarctica actually produced a sea level lowering in the 20th century.
No wonder you post anonymously!
Re: Won't someone please think of the trees?
Re: Won't someone please think of the trees?
"I dont see a 20 metre sea rise"
That's the likely long term (several centuries) impact of the current level of CO2 as most of the ice will eventually melt. Expect a 1 Metre rise by 2100 though. Which alone is enough to flood significant populated areas globally.
None of the evidence says that, and to date every single doom and gloom prediction has been halved and halved again.
Have to wonder why you are posting anonymously, is it embarressment?
Re: Won't someone please think of the trees?
"More CO2 = bigger, better, healthier and more apples for me! etc. etc. etc."
This is the highest level of CO2 in the last 20 million years. Do you think your apples will grow so well under 20+ metres of sea water?"
As someone who plants trees for firewood for my log burner I am harvesting the Ash tress I planted a year early due to the phenomenal increase in growth rates.
I then burn that wood at high temperature to release the carbon back, rinse and repeat.
Whilst we have had a lot of rain in the past 12 months I dont see a 20 metre sea rise but thats probably because I am not a raging fuckwitt!
And therein lies the problem for the tree hugging, sandal wearing guardianista's, the hysteria simply highlights the fact that they have no real, rational argument.
Thats what happens when you pay peanuts for the network, the kind of speeds that make a 56k modem look quick.
Combine that with a distinct lack of capacity and a government department so inept its laughable and hey presto, long queues and the kind of welcome that makes people go elsewhere.
Re: Daily Mail? @open_paul
Yet not one person with any interest in personal privacy on that group.
Why not ask the IAPP to join, they have excellent people who will look at this from a personal privacy perspective.
It probably won't go down well with the database salesmen or the people flogging financial data but as a member of the public the last people I want deciding on "open data" are a bunch of self interested people looking to make a quick buck from it.
Unless you are going to appoint people with an interest and understanding of the fundamental of personal privacy the group you are fronting is nothing more than a front for the industries looking to profit from our data. If you aren't going to do that then pop yourself down the vets for a one way trip on ketamine airways and do us all a favour.
Simply disconnect Russia until they deal with the issue, they can have Internetski and the rest of the world has the internet.
Keep the lapsang in his manbag?
Re: I would disagree
Merchant rates are always risk based so if you are a small new business with no real trading history or existing merchant account history then you start at the bottom and work up which in the UK typically means pretty high blended rates as opposed to seperate Credit Card and Debit Card rates.
Especailly if you are doing anything aside from vanilla chip and pin with the cardholder present, venture into MOTO and CNP or E commerce and recurring billing and the fees go North faster than Alex Salmond leaving London.
You then also have to factor in settlement terms, any deposit requirement versus risk and the additional charges as well.
Re: I would disagree @ Charlie
You may well be confusing a gprs enabled chip and pin machine as opposed to a chip and pin reader than connects to a mobile device and runs over an App.
I dont recall those being around in 2009 when Square was founded but if you have a reference to a mobile phone attached chip and pin machine from them I would be interested to see it.
I would disagree
When square launched a chip and pin card reader for mobile didnt exist, now it does and there is no reason why square cannot move to using a chip and pin reader on the phone.
Additionally 2.7% is cheap as a blended rate, go to Barclays or anyone else as a new merchant and its north of 3% before you walk through the door. Its only when you are an established merchant that you get better terms.
EE and Security, dont make me laugh
I left Orange as it was a few years ago and one of the reasons was the call centre droid telling me my full password which was visible to him and stored in plain text along with all my bank details etc etc.
Orange/EE have been aware of the CLI spoofing flaw for years and have done nothing about it, this is not a new revelation but they won't do anything about it as that would involve investment.
With a limited supplier pool the chances of market manipulation are high, but of course those paragons of virtue supplying the service wouldn't do that would they?
Nice to see
That Apple have borrowed the same magic elephant that the RIAA and MPAA use to pull numbers out of its arse.
So as long as they continue to believe that we are all potential terrorists they can slurp freely.
Trebles all round at the club.
We use zendesk
But I know from speaking to other zendesk users that Freshdesk is a serious competitor and much cheaper alternative.
I haven't used Freshdesk but it may be worth a look if you want something like Zendesk.
I know its Clarksonesque
But those two need shooting and the family billed for the bullet.
18 months and 2 years or in reality 9 months and 1 year if they are good, more of a taxpayer funded holiday than anything else.
Re: What fools
Why are you posting anonymously? Something to hide?
But that requires court action, legal arguments, obtaining injunctions and serving them and all those other time consuming and expensive legal oversights.
Instead what we have here is the content industry drawing up a wish list of sites they want to impact and then the tame muppets from the City of London Police to sign off on the list to give it a semblance of legality, after all, the police never get it wrong do they?
Of course we all know that everyone's favourite not evil search engine indexes torrents, will we see the plod blacklisting that site and cutting off its revenue stream? Perhaps I should google for the answer......
That until he made CEO they where quite happy to work on the FF platform.
At what stage does your viewpoint become unacceptable?
I suspect this is more about some cheap publicity stunt than any over riding moral crusade on behalf of gay marriage. Its actually quite sad as it does significantly devalue the work of the people who have been consistent in the fight for marriage equality to have a couple of non entities jump on a bandwagon for a moment of publicity.
Re: is it criminal watching criminals?
Having purchased the site and all its contents he was the owner of the material left behind as he had purchased it with the building.
Re: It's obvious!
Xenon, the god of car light bulbs?
I thought Hubbards mythical sky jockey was some volcanic lizard, or was that David Icke?
By payroll data
Do they mean a pay run for the month or do they mean the Payroll departments database?
Wonder who supplies Morrisons payroll services?
Zuckerberg didnt pay $18 billion
For data he couldnt easily access to find out how to advertise to you.
Why is anyone even surprised by this?
The number of degrees is irrelevant, If the person has no communication or social skills they are effectively unemployable.
Lets look at the real reasons behind this
PA consulting are a front for this, they get the data onto a US companies servers, get well paid and take some flak for it.
Meanwhile the NSA using the patriot act can now access all that information and do as they wish with it before passing the results back to GCHQ.
So the goverment can analyse all this juicy data without the need for any legal oversight, warrants etc etc.
A year ago this would have been a tin foiled hatted conspiracy theory, today its a different story.......
More of the same drivel
"The police and security services have been under pressure to explain why they didn’t know more about the murderers of Drummer Lee Rigby, and why more is not being done to disrupt the use of the internet by violent extremists looking to radicalise young people," the MP said.
Funnily enough Treasonous May said the same thing just before Snowden threw her under the bus with the revelations that GCHQ where already doing that and much more with no legal oversight.
The bottom line is that this is nothing more than the cynical use of the death of Lee Rigby and both May and Cooper should be ashamed of themselves, especially after it came to light that both of the scum bags who carried out the hideous crime where extremely well know to the security services.
Despite what these idiots will have you believe we are not over run with terrorists or paedophiles but they do make great headline grabbers. If Cooper wants to do something to get votes she needs to overturn the deals done by Blair with the murdering IRA scum so that they can be bought to justice rather than her dreams of her own personal great firewall of UK.
that reminds me
Will take the polar bear unfriendly Subaru turbo to the golden arches drive through and order a couple of "Mutant Beef" quarter pounders.
Its ok, I have a pine tree on the farm
Nothing says buy my product
like the endorsement of a dead junkie with an unhealthy interest in small boys and a pet monkey.
Owww, check your bad self......
Think of the data
All those messages about meeting for coffee at x, shopping at y, all geo-located and ready to pillage.
It's an advertisers wet dream.
And all nicely indexed for the NSA, what's not to like?
Re: Anonymised my arse
@jullien1 You don't know much about databases do you?
Anonymous data in one database can be cross referenced against other data bases for patterns which can then be used to make identifications.
If the data has no postcode area, gender or age its just a list of illnesses and not much use as a data set. No money in that for Camerons mates......
Anonymised my arse
With postcode and date of birth its really game over on that front.
In a highly populous area you might have a chance but where I live there are three properties on our postcode so its a piece of piss to link the data with postcode, date of birth and gender.
Opt outs will be going to my surgery asap.
As for the police having access, for what reasonable purpose does the police force need to know about your confidential medical records?
That is all
Re: A nest of men who co-ordinate attacks on women
apart from 50% of the people convicted for it who happened to be female.
But hey ho, why let facts get in the way of a little bit of man hating.
I am sure she was quoted in the Guardian as saying the woman prosecuted must have been corrupted by men.
What is the ICO playing at?
Given that this is both personally identifiable information and also falls into the sensitive information category I can see no basis in either UK law or European law that allows for this to happen without a specific opt in from the data subject.
Even if default opt in was allowed the fact that no attempt has been made to offer an option to opt out goes against everything the ICO has said over many years.
Its also concerning that the current Data Controller at the GP level has no choice but to comply with this. What if the European Court decides its unlawful at a later date? Who will be liable?
This really needs a swift judicial review before it kicks off as once the data is hoovered its not going to be given back or destroyed, its way to valuable.
a great victory for the feminists
Woman campaigns to get a man removed from a bank note and is threatened by a woman with a university education.
The irony is not lost.
Of course the man hating femonazis will find a way to blame men for the actions of this educated woman.
Please explain how many targetted individuals the NSA are following if they need tap into 200 million texts per day.
Even assuming an average of 200 texts per person day thats a 1,000,000 targets!
How they find time for any terrorism what with all that texting I will never know........
The problem is
That you are viewing the law from an incredibly narrow perspective.
Given how inept our police are what happens if Constable Savage decides that your screenname "nuked" suggests you might be a dodgy bomb wielding terrorist and he raids your house and takes all your IT kit and lots of USB keys.
Included in this is a USB memory stick that isn't yours that a friend must have dropped, its encrypted and you don't have the password.
But the USB stick was recovered in a search of your home and therefore its your responsibility and thanks to RIPA you get some jail time for failing to provide the key.
Welcome to our brave new UK police state world.
That as he had already given up the same password that he should be prosecuted again.
It seems more of a case that our high tech plod are less than competent as this would be one of the first things you would try when presented with an item from the same source given how many people use the same password.
Its also a monumental waste of taxpayers money to bring this prosecution when it stems from the incompetence of the plod in the first place, after all it may have contained more critical information and no one thought to try a known password?
The problem is easily solved
When the people responsible for the breaches of the data protection act are the ones who pay the fines and face the sanctions.
At the moment its simply a paper exercise moving £X from one civil service unit back to central government via the ICO.
Start to take it from the staff pension pot of those responsible and fire the people in charge and I guarantee they would take Data Protection law much more seriously.
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