2494 posts • joined 10 Jun 2009
In an area where many people own guns, it is indeed a perfectly rational response.
"in case you didn't read the article, this was OUTSIDE." I think in most common law jurisdictions, "Home" begins at the boundary of the property occupied by the owner/occupier. The garden would be classed as "home", with permission (express or implied) required to enter the property. I have always had the impression that the mailboxes on the edge of the boundary in the USA were recognition of this (thought I could be wrong on that).
"A damaged quad could crash anywhere in battery range and poses a significant risk of injury, damage and fire."
This is the real issue here. Regardless of what method used (lead shot, nylon and rubber chain shot, water, radio interference), there is a strong possibility of the incapacitated drone falling uncontrolled from a significant height. The "uncontrolled" aspect means there is a risk of injury or damage to property, regardless of how "safe" the method of bringing it down is. Liability is then going to spread far and wide without clear laws on this.
Note: I don't really defend either party here. The drone operators behaved badly, but so did the man with the gun. However, my wife would insist on me finding a way to bring down a drone hovering over the garden, and I'd e classed as "useless" if I didn't - regardless of how little I would care in most situations.
Me too! Looking forward to my tee-shirt being delivered :-)
AO is probably working on it right now. We should see it in a couple of days.
Re: Welcome to the National Security State
So theocracy is a better bet than anything else?? Sorry, but that's bollocks.
Re: Therin lies the problem @AC OP
If he'd actually done anything serious, I might agree with you, AC. However, he hasn't, and I think the sentence is far too strong.
New keyboard, please!
Re: "Dutch MEP Sophie in ’t Veld"
I'm originally from Yorkshire, and my wife (originally from another European country) has never been able to understand that when I say "Yeah, it's alright", that is the highest praise I can give. When she forces the issue, "Yes, it is wonderful" sounds sarcastic, and that's when the argument starts ...
To an extent, I see your argument. However, the important bit is that judges use them to decide what the law is. This means that they are either a) being used wrongly by the judges because they are not official, and should be entered as evidence so that everyone knows what the decisions are being based on, or b) they are part of the law and not copyrightable under the relevant US federal laws. Either way, people subject to the law need to know them.
On an aside, this is exactly the way it should be in the UK - anything relied on by judges in coming to a decision should be in evidence or copyright-free. However, it isn't.
Re: It's very simple
It is the usual AC posting by one of the copyright organisations who writes the same drivel every time. There has been a change in the writing style - this one doesn't use "perp" - but the source is clear: just another troll.
Re: "........ consider how to translate 0.15625ml to a dry measure of furikake"
Why not just a "level/heaped smidge"? That would be easy with the wee spoons in the photo.
Re: What's depressing....
I'm sure "Rory Cellan-Jones" is Welsh for "I'm a Know-nothing Tosser".
Re: Who's laughing now??? @Annihilator
Apart from handing my passport to border control and (depending on airport) the check-in staff, I do not let my passport leave my pocket/hand, and my cards stay in my pocket too. There is no way on earth I'm putting them in the tray. I'd be pissed off if my wallet/ebook/phone went missing, but they are all insured and easily replaceable - not so my passport and cards.
Re: This is precisely why... @ AC
Would you care to be more specific about what there is in this particular trivial incident that makes you cut and paste your usual crap??
Re: SOP for VM
I'd be interested in the process for doing that too ... though my neighbours are all a bit far away for easy connection, it might be useful one day.
Re: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Citroen produced 'special editions' of their C15 Visa-based van called "Van Blanc" and "Van Rouge" in the 1980s. Perhaps it was those you saw. More details at http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/c15/c15-2.html.
Re: London time?? @tirk
Give the rest of us a referendum to separate from the south-east, and I suspect you'd be on your own by Christmas. There'd be a reduction of support for Scottish Independence from the reduced rUK too, since most of the dissatisfaction up here is with you lot down there hogging all the pies.
I take it you are a supporter of No2NP as well as me? http://no2np.org/ for anyone who wants to have a look at the opposition to this dreadful legislation.
@ Kubla and Loyal
Kubla - I have to agree. That "Sky at Night" special showed that the BBC can and will drag everything down to "Horizon" standards (I will not refer to it as "New Horizon" for obvious reasons!) Who were those dribbling baboons presenting, and did all those really tired scientists think they were being interviewed for childrens' television? Thanks for nothing, BBC.
Loyal - It is, and always will be, Charon with a "K" to me, regardless of what the discoverer, no matter how clever, thinking with his prick thought he was doing.
Re: Fair use...
Hi, AC - wondered where you were. I was nearly tricked by the lack of the use "perp", but your bosses at the PRS/MPA/BPI must have told you to stop using such a fatuous word. They haven't stopped you using a fatuous argument, though. Quite simply, if I have bought it, it is mine. Alternatively, if I have a licence to listen to it, I can listen to it how I want. Most people in this country believe that to be the case, and would be appalled to hear your argument. Law should reflect the views of the people, not the views of industry (I know - naive, huh?), and so you are on a hiding to nothing. Get your bosses to accept that the world has changed, they no longer call the shots, and it is time to look at their business models to reflect reality.
Oh, and IAAL (academic).
"... you probably shouldn't be checking delicate electronics into the hold anyway."
This was going to be my response. Why on Earth would you leave your electronics to the mercy of <del>those honest, careful members of airport staff who take every care to ensure that your luggage arrives undamaged</del> airport baggage handlers??
Re: No big deal
Sorry to disappoint you, AC, but no legislation is going to stop death. It can badly affect the way people live though.
There are several countries where personal liberties mean little, and you should be happy there. They tend to get warm in the summer, though - oh, and they tend to be a bit violent.
Re: Called it :) @ PassingStrange
Well said! If I could give you more upvotes, I would.
Re: The more of this I read @ James Hughes 1
"... they go wrong less."
At least while they are new. Just wait until the electronic components start to die.
Re: The more of this I read
"Because then you can't have remote start."
And the problem is ....?
Re: It is all a bit of a mess @ Trevor
Thanks, Trevor - that comprehensively answers the question. It is good to see law in action - there is an observed problem, and the least restrictive solution is put into place.
Re: It is all a bit of a mess @ Trevor
Trevor, that is one of the weirdest and most disturbing things you have ever posted! Why on earth would anyone make hitch-hiking illegal? And, based on what the OP was saying, would the organisation of a lift via a notice-board be covered - i.e. what are the limits on "hitch-hiking" in your jurisdiction?
Re: Police Target Practice
Don't forget the highly dangerous cow that required helicopters and the entire Northumbrian armed constabulary ...
Re: Foxes generaly don't chase people @ J G I
For some reason (possibly his years in the Army), my dad used to refer to corned beef as "corned dog" - which I now do. Is it such a long stretch to "corned fox"?
Re: Childhood Memories
*That's* what I remember! Thanks, kmac - I thought I'd been imagining that (or it was part of a movie I'd seen). Yes, truly wonderful ...
Re: I'm gonna get flamed for this...
I've been using ThinkPads as my main machines for so long that the Ctrl on a "standard" keyboard is in the wrong place ... :-)
All the above plus the absolutely wonderful page back/forwards buttons (they are either side of the up arrow, making the direction key pad a full 3x2 grid). So few people mention these, but I don't know of any other keyboard that has them. If I could find one, I'd have one for the desktop too - it means you don't need to use the backspace key for going back one webpage, and there is a key for going forward to one already visited without going for the mouse.
Re: ME! Oh ME! MeohmeohmeohMEEEE!
All the above plus the extremely useful page back/forwards buttons flanking the up arrow. These are soooo useful for browsing without needing to change to the mouse.
(Currently using X61 almost exclusively for all work and pleasure purposes.)
"It's like justice, only different." Just like the prosecution having the right to appeal a sentence for being too lenient (and yes, I know we have it here too - it doesn't make it any more just).
How hard would it be ...
... to say that all data about an individual belongs to that individual, and use (defined as analysis and action based upon it) of that data can only be done:
a) Where the individual gives full and free informed consent
b) Where primary legislation allows for it (primary legislation so that it is debated openly in the legislature) or
c) Where a warrant obtained from one - or some situations, more than one - judge?
Seems straight-forward to me - just needs some moral backbone from our supposed representatives (OK, so the Council of Ministers here consists of each Member State's Minister for the Home or Justice Department, meaning that the likes of Twathead May are there, so the current "compromise" is completely expected). The European Parliament, though, are starting to realise that they do have real power, so maybe we can pin our hopes on them.
Re: So Snowden, an NSA subbie bagged a copy of the MI6 agents in place ...
I thought my tinnitus was worse this morning, but it probably just the sound of lots of bullshit detectors going off (though, depressingly, not as many as there ought to be ...)
Re: Snowden is an arse clown @AC
Without evidence, you are to be assumed to be spouting utter shite.
That is all.
Re: Thinking the powers that be have missed the point
The police still think that they are part of the prosecution process (from the days before the CPS when criminal prosecutions were brought by the police). Now the CPS exists, the police should be merely investigatory, working for neither side. Getting rid of targets based on crimes solved should be high on any government's list, and then realigning the police as an arm of the courts, with dispassionate investigation at their core.
Would that be TTIP, by any chance? From the point of view of the individual, there is absolutely fuck all about that abomination which is any good.
Re: Not surprised about delays..
I'd been thinking the same re: universities I work for, which both use Microsoft products for their cloudy stuff. There is a lot at stake here, and the true leaders* of the USA need to put pressure on before business evaporates.
* Big business
If only it didn't have Matt "One-expression" Damon as the lead, and Ridley "Prometheus" Scott* helming ...
* I know, he has done some great stuff, but "Prometheus" (and, let's be honest, "GI Jane", Gladiator", "Robin Hood" and "Exodus") suggests his time is well in the past.
Re: Done before
"Welcome to Mars" by James Blish also covered this ground (though, if I remember correctly (it has been a while), he also fell back on indigenous Martian life to plug some plot-holes).
Re: The good news about Theresa May is...
Much as I loath Theresa May (and everyone else who has had the Home Secretary title for the last 30 years), it is clear that it is the Snivel Serpents in the Home Office who are behind all this. Previously sane(-ish) people like Jack Straw became indistinguishable from loons like David Blunkett and Theresa May. And here is the problem - get rid of the current holder of this sinecure, and the next one will be exactly the same. Any plans for changing this situation gratfully received.
Re: So Download Festival are trying to go bankrupt?
"WTF would anyone even consider attending
this any festival with this level of surveillance ever?*
* Genuinely sorry to those who go to festivals, but I have an absolute horror of these things. I cannot understand what the fun is is in standing in a crowd of unwashed, off-their-heads people in the cold and wet whilst someone pisses on your tent. Standing in the cold and wet is only to be done when rally cars are involved :-)
"The Number of the Beast!" Of course it is - it's a dog-tag!
Re: We need the FCC involved.
No no no - it's all a plot by Google! Dr Stephen Jones says so!
Re: Have your little dance now, children!
Stephen - you are to Google what Eadon (wherever he might be now) was to Microsoft, but without the humorous aspect. Unfortunately, that means you just produce noise.
Re: FUCK OFF!!!
"Location services... and Bluetooth on." Does this mean Bluetooth simply needs to be on, or does it need to be discoverable? Are there really enough people stupid enough to have location services and Bluetooth set to "Broadcast Widely and Accept Anything" to make this worthwhile??