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Wait, wait, wait, am I reading that right? Last year's stats included AMD machines, and this year's don't? I think I might know where some of the market share went, Batman. If that's not a typo, it's *really* disingenuous, guys.
Also, the iPad is *not* a PC. Stop pretending that it is.
Is this because of the decline of handheld consoles in general, or because even the most die-hard Nintendo fanboy is getting a bit tired of Yet Another DS Revision?
Oops, I implied criticism of the Great Ones. Cue downvoting! (I wasn't exactly wrong about that on the last thread...)
@TeeCee - You play?
You play tag? What system? Don't say Quasar. I'll cry.
As an avid laser tag player, I welcome this upgrade to the Olympic event. Perhaps next time we can have the ability for the target to fire back, requiring some sort of...vest apparatus? And then the time after that, we could play in the dark!
One step at a time. ;-)
Re: No it wont...
Greg. Mature enough to handle it? A 13 year old who claims or believes they are mature enough to handle porn or other 'adult' oriented games is exhibiting strong levels of immaturity. A more mature 13 year old will understand that some things are unsuitable. As true now by observation of my 13 year old and his contemporaries as was long ago in my teen years.
You seem to have missed the part where my parents made the assessment, not me. I wasn't rich enough to be buying stuff at 13. They would simply ask "can Greg handle this?" If the answer was yes, then I was OK. They recognised very early on that Unreal Tournament or Carmageddon with my friends resulted in laughter, not violence. Same went for films - I wanted to watch the stuff with adult storylines rather than the stuff with tits, so they were fine with that. Mollycoddle a child too much and you're just creating a time bomb for when they turn 16/18/21/magic number.
Re: "Cue fanboys."
Well that was predictable...
Can't even slightly agree. The "added twist" you say has been added to titles that have been done to death already adds nothing in my opinion. A couple of occasional forced gimmicky sections and an infuriatingly difficult-to-use 3D system (tried it on a bus?) don't make them suddenly original games again. Perhaps they could come up with a new franchise, or new gameplay? Taking Mario World and putting it in new graphics, then in 3D, then in 3D on a big screen doesn't change anything - it's still sodding Mario World, and I've already played that to death. (Well, in 3D's case it's more Mario 3 - Mario World's inferior predecessor.)
"I can't honestly see how you can say that they're out of ideas, sure they've refreshed all the main in house franchises"
If you can't see what is wrong with that statement, there's no hope.
"and it takes the HW manufacturers tinkering with input/output capabilities to push the envelope a little."
No no no no no no no no no no. Different controllers do not make for original games. Zelda with a Wiimote is still copy-and-paste Zelda, just with worse controls. 3D Mario is still Mario, just with an added headache. You want to see actual originality, or innovation in gameplay? Wander into the indie PC market sometime. Beyond the masses of "play your music collection" or "woo retro space fighter games", you'll find a whole host of cheap, fun variety.
"This seems so unbelievable that we can "send a man to the moon" but we can't take a fu****ing picture of the damned thing. Can't we attach that 21Gb Camera to something ?"
Ummmm....you do know what distances we're talking about, right?
Re: No it wont...
"You wouldn't buy your 13 year old son a porn movie would you? Likewise you shouldn't buy your 13 year old son an adult video game where he can steal cars and beat up hookers."
Shouldn't you? Depends if your kid is mature enough to handle it. That's the standard my parents always used, rather than some arbitrary magic number. I played every violent video game under the sun as a kid, and I've yet to even attain one star on my criminal record. ;-)
Re: @David Hagood
Macs have proven far more difficult to multi-partition than any Windows machine, in my experience. Windows machines these days are a doddle to me compared to something running OSX. First you have to resize the partitions using an editor that takes your inputs as mere suggestions. Then you have to deal with their non-standard bootloader (constantly), plus the hybrid partition table that becomes irritatingly necessary despite the other two operating systems both supporting EFI, and then because of the hybrid table, you have to have your partitions in the right order or Windows is screwed. Get all that set up and make sure you remember to sync the partition tables, otherwise OSX will merrily destroy your other partitions without prompting you. Gah!
Getting 3 operating systems on this 2011 MacBook Pro was....not fun. Not looking forward to a ML upgrade. Wouldn't be so bad, except my old 2007 MacBook was much easier!
Wasn't impressed by either the 3DS or the 3DSXL, won't be bothering with either. 3D is the latest in Nintendo's recent procession of gimmicks, trotted out to disguise the fact that they're terminally out of ideas on the game front. My DS and DS Lite still serve me perfectly well, and given that they haven't even bothered to up the screen res (are you kidding me?) I'll be skipping this revision just as I have every pointless upgrade since the DSi.
Re: Store vs Store
"I assume though that he's hoping the 'year of the linux desktop' can still come ... if it didn't happen during the Vista years, it's not going to happen now."
It didn't happen primarily because of lack of 3rd party support. Wouldn't you say that Steam is a rather large name on the PC? And given that several other online game distributors already support Linux, I'd say things are looking up.
Re: Web developers use windows
"While they could be way more comfortable using Linux, these guys use win."
We do? I use Linux, and only boot the other two when required.
Re: They've dropped the Windows version?
And that cross-browser testing is definitely necessary. Part of our system requires a pop-up to appear (it's meant to go on projector screens and the like, while the controls are on a separate screen.) During testing we tried this in Safari 5, only to find that not only did it block the popup, it also failed to inform users that the popup had been blocked. So from the end user's point of view, they clicked the button and nothing happened. Thanks, Apple!
But bear in mind that Mac OS X doesn't have the same level of long-term backwards compatibility and support that Microsoft do, which is one of the reasons businesses prefer MS gear. I do agree though that MS are so desperate to be seen as forward-thinking and progressive that they're trying to re-invent the wheel. They could have taken Windows 7 and fixed all the things that annoy people, rather than go overkill with Metro.
Little bit of gushing at the end there, but this does look like a far more worth upgrade than Lion was. iMessage is cool but useless unless you're already inside the walled garden. The text-to-speech looks pretty sweet though, as does the sharing integration. Might be tempted to shell out at some point, though to be honest my Mac runs Kubuntu 95% of the time.
>If I was Blizzard, I wouldn't be asking, "When will it end?", I'd be asking, "Why the fuck do we bother?".
I've been asking Blizzard that for years!
@Nick - exactly
So precisely what I was thinking that you're worrying me slightly. Powerline gigabit or better linking high speed access points in each room. Here's hoping they have this sorted by the time I purchase my next home in a few years.
Re: Its a MMORPG !
Fanboy much? Perhaps you'd like to explain how Diablo is an MMORPG?
Also, it has a single-player mode. Still MMO?
Re: People who wear Beats headphones have always baffled me anyway...
"Anyone who appreciates a wide variety of music would go for a decent make (such as Sennheiser, Bose, AKG or Beyer Dynamic) at around the same price point or higher."
How to tell if your expensive headphones are shit: did you buy them from HMV?
The Beats range is much like the Skullcandy range. They made a set of headphones that are superior to iPod earbuds (as challenging as getting drunk), but are still ultimately pretty mediocre, and then sold them to people who don't know better, who now brand themselves audiophiles. They're no better than buying a pair with "super bass boost" written on them. You're getting a shit pair of headphones.
"It's not reported which of the two orbs came out on top, which is probably a wise move to avoid a commentard bloodbath down at YouTube."
You've not spent much time on YT, have you? They're not going to argue over the video. They're going to somehow link it to a completely different argument. I imagine there's currently a war going on in the comments section about Republican policies on abortion, or the existence of god.
@TeeCee - Don't be a twat
So one person has concluded he's innocent without seeing the evidence, and you've concluded that he's guilty without seeing the evidence, and that makes the other person shameful, a supporter of rape, etc, etc. Don't be a twat. If anyone's closer to how the justice system actually works, it's the other guy...
Wow, this will really stop torrenting. Pity it won't stop t0rrenting...
Re: Interesting rant, obviously never tried it
"- Steam has weekend deals that are sometimes astounding (got L4D2 for €5, can anyone top that ?)"
In the last sale I got every GTA game ever released for PC, with all expansions, for £5. I worked it out at something like 66p per game.
Re: I do wonder though
"Idle question. When I buy a game like Civ 5 it comes on a DVD but the first thing the installer does is connect to Steam and (re?)download the game files -- all 1Gig of them"
You think Civ5 is only a gig? When I install a Steam game from DVD, it installs everything on the DVD, then goes and gets me the latest updates from Steam as part of the install. If there's been a GOTY release in shops since the game came out, Steam normally gives it to me for free. (I got UT3 Black Edition on Steam by registering a standard edition code, for example).
That download was likely a ton of extra content and patches.
Re: Other distros
"Eyefinity" = modern shorthand for "SLI'd 7900GTXs through a ridiculously expensive Matrox external splitter.
Well....if I'm really honest, that's how it was when I first started playing Crysis, and then like an idiot I incinerated the cards, all £400 worth. Fortunately, the splitter box is so insanely expensive that flogging it easily covered the price of an actual mid-range Eyefinity card at about the same power level as my previous cards, so not really an upgrade so much as "idiot burns out expensive cards". I even made a little profit off the splitter box, so PC gaming really did turn out cheaper. ;-)
At least with the PC it was my own stupid fault. When my PS3's yellow light came on, that sure as hell wasn't my fault...
Re: Other distros
"You don't pay much attention to the PC game market, do you? Developers expect gamers to be upgrading their hardware every six months to keep up."
This FUD again? Really? For the love of...
Look, I built my desktop 6 and a half years ago. Sure, it's a monster, but I haven't upgraded it since. It started out on XP64 and Half Life 2, and now it runs Win7 and Crysis. In Eyefinity.
I upgrade about as often as new console generations come out. What's the big deal?
Re: Platform meaningless without games
I don't know about the whole "no games for Linux" thing. If you look at the Humble Bundles (which come with Steam codes), all the games I've seen on there have a Linux native version available. There's a *ton* of indie games which will work on it immediately, I would imagine.
How the heck does this even work? I thought they withdrew because there's no way their latest gluing-everything-in bullshit would get approved, and then they just waltz back in like nothing ever happened? How can the laptops now be approved when they couldn't before?
A focus on F2P gaming?
Wow, there's a console I'll be staying away from. Most F2P games are the worst kind of nickel-and-diming.
"That's a good point, but there's nothing new or interesting coming out for the PS2, ever,"
There's nothing new coming out, but there's more good games on it than you'll ever play, so who cares? My PS2 is still hooked up and used often, in spite of all the hardware around it being far newer. It has an outstanding games catalogue, so why not indulge?
"It's a tablet computer not a dedicated media player."
Uh huh. And yet its primary uses seem to revolve around being a media player. Honestly can't say I've seen anyone do anything more advanced than writing an e-mail on one.
Why are Apple so bloody fond of the 4:3 aspect ratio? Given the iPad's status as a glorified picture frame, and that one of the only things people ever do with them is watch videos, why the chuff aren't they 16:9 or similar?
Here, watch a movie on your shiny new retina device. Don't mind the massive letterboxing. After all, you spent a ton of money on a high DPI screen so you could not use half of it, right?
Re: Forgot about the music!
Don't forget Cowboy Bebop!
Re: build it...and they wont come
"I don't understand the love people on here have for Nokia when RIM is nothing but a joke. Is it because they are being ravaged by the bad man from M$?"
It's not a love of Nokia at all. I couldn't care less about the new Lumias, really (though I kinda like WP7). It's a love of Linux, and how brain-buggeringly brilliant it was when Nokia did it.
Seems reasonable. They're supporting at least 5 years back, which is about the general lifetime of one of these machines. Still won't be buying it if it's as big a waste of money as Lion was, though.
Re: All very well...
"You are not in a position to judge my life, humorless or not"
And you don't get to speak on behalf of All The Gays, like you just tried to pull up there, Mr Chairman.
"I'm not even sure how you managed to equate me with Islamic fundamentalists?"
You should re-read the comment then. It was pretty obvious.
Re: build it...and they wont come
There were fewer apps built for it because Nokia announced they were deprecating the platform before it was even released. That's not got anything to do with whether or not MeeGo's any good. I was drooling over it up until Nokia dropped it.
Not had the chance to fiddle with MeeGo as much as I'd like, but Maemo before it was fantastic as a smartphone operating system (and by smartphone I mean "a phone you can do advanced things with", not "a phone that is shiny and sells well to idiots"). It still has the best multitasking of any smartphone OS, hands down, and can do more out of the box than pretty much any current smartphone, let alone those present at release.
Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what Tizen can do. So long as it doesn't turn out like Bada...
Re: All very well...
"This is the sort of casual homophobia which is particularly poisonous. I've got news for you and all the "it's ok because I'm joking" people: It is not ok. It is not ok by a long shot, it's crude, offensive and divisive. It perpetuates 70s stereotypes, you and all the upvoters of your pathetic comment should be ashamed."
As a bisexual dude, FUCK OFF.
A clever play on a company's nickname (and seemingly aimed in support of Google's initiative) is not homophobia, it's a fucking joke. If your life is so humourless that this offends you, I suggest you unplug and walk away from the Internet now. You aren't going to survive here.
I have no problem with gay rights (duh!), women's rights, or any other kind of equal rights. What I have a problem with is people who can't laugh at themselves. You perpetuate exactly the same kind of rigid, stern-faced miserable fuckpuppetry around the cause that the Muslims do whenever someone draws Mohammed in a dress. Nothing negative was said whatsoever. Get over yourself.
"Although it’s not quite like that notorious episode of the GITS:SAC TV series in which virtually the entire 30 minutes comprises internet nerds arguing around a table,"
I loved that episode!
Anyway, is SAC itself coming to BD at some point? I bought the special edition DVDs from the US ages back (the ones with the OSTs and t-shirts) and they're fantastic. Would love to see a BD re-release.
Re: those aren't her ideas
I was also going to call on the stuff stolen from Clarke, but I was thinking Odyssey 3 (I think it's 3 - the aliens living in Jupiter's atmosphere).
"EFI is in all Macs and boots anything you like."
Er, no. Mac's bastardised version of EFI is in all Macs, and boots whatever you like so long as you buy it chocolates first, and know all the magic hexes required. Three reboots to get rEFIt installed is pretty easy, but on my 2011 MacBook the booting process is:
1. Hold down the option key to select rEFIt from the options under the Mac boot menu. This - *somehow* - gives the non-Mac operating system correct access to power control and screen brightness.
2. Select Linux or Windows from rEFIt. This doesn't boot Windows or Linux - it boots GRUB2.
3. Select Linux or Windows from GRUB2. Now they boot.
Bit of a faff, wouldn't you say? And don't even get me started on setting up the machine that way in the first place. The partition editor in OSX is a fecking joke.
Re: My Windows servers never missed a beat :-P
Were they too busy remote-installing Skype across your network? :-p
Like that multi-CPU desktop I've got at home. Dreading booting it up tonight now.
"Cool down, no is trying to say android sucks so no need to work up a fanboy rage."
Nice try, but I use Maemo. Try making a valid point without an ad hominem next time.
Apple launched an inferior product, then tried to pull a Microsoft and claim the inferiorities were features. Love your iPhone status symbol more because it does less. Saying that Flash would die off with HTML5 is as wise as pointing out the certainty of day following night.
I guess I just don't get how the world works inside the reality distortion field, where supporting only one format is *better* than supporting both...
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