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At the moment it is greedy, charging full RRP for a digital version when the digital version has none of the associated costs on a physical product.
Sony/EA/Ubisoft are going one better than that at the minute. Far Cry 3 and Fifa 13 both launched at an eye-watering £60 on SEN. Far as I'm aware, they're still that price, despite releasing at £40 or less in stores. Game even used Far Cry 3 as a loss-leader up to Christmas, selling it brand new for £20 when it was still £60 online.
What depressed me was that the £60 games were still at the top of the SEN sales charts. Consumers can't be *that* stupid, can they?
No-one really cares, not even Nintendo, now the replacement gimmick has arrived.
Re: All seems very sensible
Ever wondered why UK privacy reform is so mealy-mouthed and bitty? They're having to work around the fringes of the problem because the EU doesn't allow national parliaments to act on this issue any more,
Given their complete failure to act in cases of ISP wiretapping, etc, and their continued attempts to track as much citizen data as possible, do you honestly think the UK gov would give two hoots for your data privacy on its own?
You know what would depress me? Living a health-freak's life. Every time I pick up a drink or snack these days there's someone around to tell me all the ways it's going to kill me.
I'd rather drop dead at 70 having eaten and drank every bloody thing I like than make it to 75 without Dr Pepper. I've no intention of becoming a man-mountain, but I'm not about to start snacking on the muesli either.
Re: Sweet Poison
That would be the same Janet Starr Hull, "Nutrition Counsellor" (not a legally protected term, ever) who takes part in documentary videos about the expanding Earth hypothesis (I refuse to call it a theory)?
That one? That's your credible source on aspartame? The bullshitter who sells diets based on vague fears over "toxicity" that claim to reduce your cancer risk? (She would never say "prevent", just heavily imply it.)
These should be banned from schools, even diet versions.
The true mark of a free country, that. If something is even potentially mildly kinda harmful, BAN IT! BAN IT NOW BEFORE YOUR CHILDREN DIIIIEEEEE!
Ok, a little facetious, but I am really rather tired of the banning brigade. Has no child ever survived the terrors of a childhood filled with fizzy drinks? Oh, wait...
Kick ass! Ubuntu, Tizen and Firefox all confirmed for 2013. Now, someone confirm a Sailfish/MeeGo phone and I might actually have a choice of new smartphones!
Good timing, too. The charging port on my N900 is finally giving up the ghost.
Re: Expensive, but at least it'll heat your house too.
"To avoid overheating maximum screen brightness has been reduced"
So it's not an N-Gage, as suggested above; it's a fucking Lynx!
Re: Android and Linux
I am not even sure if there's any top-notch game engine anymore that runs on OpenGL
The Unreal engine still runs a silly amount of games, and part of the reason is that it runs on a silly number of devices, Linux included. OpenGL != Linux. The same cross-platform angle that lets them work on Linux also lets them work on Mac, iOS, Android, PS3, etc.
A reason would be nice.
I actually really like the design. By emulating a standard controller they've basically got spot-on ergonomic design, which the PSP had a problem with, and Nintendo never bothered with (seriously, the ergonomics on the DS range are hideous). And the battery life does sound superior to its peers.
The library of games is the real problem; the vast majority of the games on the Play store are pretty shit. Some indie ports have made it to Android, such as the Introversion stuff, but that's still not enough, especially when the Vita lets you play Uncharted.
Re: Mee didn't go
Good points considering the base could be basically the same. Still I see it always being a bit slower and bloatier than Android considering it will largely be Android with a bunch of extra crap bolted on.
You've got that entirely the wrong way round. Android is Linux with a Java virtual machine nailed on. MeeGo is just Linux, and with Tizen you'll have the option of firing up the JVM for running Android stuff when necessary. That's going to use fewer resources, not more.
Re: Babylon 5 influence
B5 was far more heavily influenced by LOTR than DS9 by B5
I'm sure that's been commented on elsewhere, but I honestly don't see it. OK, other races teaming up against the Big Bad, but beyond that, the themes are quite different. Even the Big Bad in B5 is actually just a different philosophy.
You could always tell the entire plot of a JMS B5 ep before the titles rolled, 'Passing through Gethsemane' being a particularly egregious example.
Was "Falling Toward Apotheosis" one of his, by any chance? ;-)
Re: Babylon 5 dissappointment
That episode when Delenn was going through some transcendental transformation..the transformation? She grew hair.
What exactly were you expecting a Human/Minbari hybrid to look like? A lizard?
Last episode of B5 I ever watched.
Sooooo....you watched the very first part of season 2? Off the top of my head, you missed:
* The Clark conspiracy
* The return of the Shadows and their influence on the Centauri
* The invasion and later liberation of Narn
* The imposition of martial law
* G'Kar mind-raping Mollari
* B5 breaking away from Earth
* The return of Lyta Alexander
* The entire frigging shadow war!
* The First Ones
* The theft of Babylon 4 and the reveal of Valen
* Sheridan divebombing a ship full of nukes onto a planet!
* The assassination of Emperor Cartagia
* Garibaldi being manipulated by the Psi-corps
* The Mars rebellion
* Psi-corps trying to take over the government
* William Edgars attempting to kill every telepath on Earth
* The breaking of the grey council and the Minbari civil war
* The Earth Alliance civil war
* "Scorched Earth" (fans will get that)
* G'Kar becoming a holy man
* The beginning of the telepath war
* The fall of Centauri Prime
* Llondo ascending the throne
* Babylon 5 getting blown up
And how could I forget:
* Lennir beats the shit out of an entire bar full of people because Llondo was cheating at cards.
Yeah..... I'll grant that Season 1 was the weakest, but running out of ideas? The whole thing was written in advance; that's how Paramount were able to rip it off, after all. Episodes, characters, etc are referenced across seasons, and character arcs span years at a time. I would recommend giving it another shot - you quit right before everything kicks off!
Re: Mee didn't go
Yet Another Mobe OS (YAMOS). Lovely thing about standards, there are so many to choose from.
I think you're confusing "standards" and "products".
I was wondering if anyone was going to mention how this "defiantly different" show was actually a rip-off. The article didn't bother, after all.
I did like DS9 when I watched it, but I later watched B5 and it's far superior. The budget may be lower, and the acting on some of the cast is pretty bad, especially early on, but the compelling story arc and character development blows every other sci-fi series I've watched out of the sky.
I am liking the way this year is going! First Ubuntu is announced for phones, then Tizen's release gets confirmed. With Jolla and Firefox OS also possibly on the horizon, I might finally have an upgrade path from my N900!
Sure, Tizen punts HTML5 as its primary ecosystem, but come on, it's MeeGo based. Pennies to pounds someone has a bash terminal out of it ten minutes after launch.
Re: Ubuntu = FAIL
I'm calling troll. If it deleted your MBR, that's most likely because you told it to install in the MBR.
And if that was Ubuntu 10.04 (10.0 isn't a real version number) then it didn't include the Amazon stuff. That only came in much later.
Re: Ubuntu ???
In some ways and not others. The base OS is still great, and it offers some user-friendly front-end stuff that many other distros don't come near. Everyone just threw their toys out of the pram over Unity, and you can see from the posts on this article that people are still acting like children about it, when all that's necessary is to install Kubuntu instead. All the upsides, few of the downs.
Um....who's tried to make HTML5 proprietary? Because they haven't done a very good job of it.
Amazed at the amount of negativity aimed at this. Personally, I've been waiting for Linux to make its way back onto the mobile, and this is a great step from where I'm sat. For years, my friends and I have been convinced that computing will eventually end up as a "core" device that you plug into different shells depending on the task you're doing. That core device is likely to be a phone, that you then dock to form a desktop, or slide into a tablet shell, etc, etc. The shells might augment its functionality, or provide things like dedicated graphics card, etc. This is, like the Motorola Atrix and others before it, a step in that direction. If you can't figure out why having your phone and desktop be literally the same device has advantages, I don't want what you're smoking.
Either way, I'm glad to see this released. I'm going to be emigrating soon and having something like this would be perfect to get a low-cost desktop running in my new place, as well as giving me something resembling an upgrade path from my N900. Android might be pretty, but its not suitable for what I do. iOS is miles off, Jolla and Tizen have yet to raise their heads, and there's little else to get excited about from a tech standpoint.
And would you lot please realise that Unity's going to make ten times more sense on a mobile than GNOME ever would? I'm not that fond of GNOME on the desktop, but on mobile? That said, I'd love to see a KDE/Plasma variant of this. I saw a demo of a Plasma-based tablet interface last year and it was gorgeous.
Re: Hasn't it been done ?
That was a thing they made that installed Ubuntu inside Android. You docked the phone and it fired up Ubuntu. It was a precursor to this that they demo'd at last year's World Mobile Congress. Even back then they were talking about this full replacement OS. Glad to see it finally arrive.
the lack of apps means i doubt its ever going to make for the only OS i would run on a phone.
Lack of apps?? Are you out of your tree??
Re: @westlake - A good question
The fundamental problem here --- the elephant in the room that no one ever talks about --- is the lack of compelling programs which are Linux only.
It's a fair point, though I would argue that those programs do exist. As a novice video editor (but an experienced computing geezer) Kdenlive is a great video editor. It's a piece of piss to use, has a simple interface, but still has a lot of functionality, and supports a wide range of formats.
Also, K3B is the best CD ripper/burner going, hands down. KDESVN is the best Subversion client I've used, and you don't realise just how good tools like KRDC, KSnapshot or Kompare are until you try them against other such tools (or lack of tools, as is often the case in Win/Mac).
(If you've noticed that these are all KDE apps, that's because KDE is awesome.)
Actually, based on that, I'm going to contradict what I originally said. I don't use Linux for the 3rd-party apps. As you rightly pointed out, I can set up Netbeans, Firefox, Skype and the rest on Windows just as readily as Linux. I use Linux for everything around the 3rd-party apps. The superior file and task management, shortcuts, interface customisation, widgets, command line, etc. Put it this way:
Firefox in Windows and Firefox in Linux are the same.
Explorer in Windows and Dolphin in Linux are most definitely not the same.
Re: A good question
I see it as a step toward a ChromeOS-like experience, where "the network is the computer".
Ah yes, the thin client. Those didn't really work in the '90s either.
This year's GNOME is no place for someone who just wants to get some work done.
GNOME, as the developers would have you believe, is not designed for nerds that want to customise things
KDE is. I honestly don't know why it's not rapidly replacing GNOME as the standard desktop. You never know, that might finally give better compatibility with Mozzy stuff...
Re: all that dosh!
so WTF does he (or any other high paid CEO) spend the money on?
Same thing we should all aim for (IMO): retiring early and spending the rest of our days enjoying everything else.
Re: 99% pay cut
Obvious troll is obvious, but hey, I'm bored. Bored enough to look Jim Whitehurst up on Forbes and read the part where he earned $7,407,214 in 2011 (figures for 2012 aren't there yet).
What makes you say that? Used it since the beta, and while admittedly the first few versions were a bit slow, these days it's a great browser. Flash got added in, the browser sped up, they redesigned the UI (though personally I liked the old one) and sorted out a number of other issues. It's a luvverly piece of kit.
Well, thanks for your valuable input.
Re: but the flash video player is STILL better
It's right there in the context menu on my YT HTML5 version...
Re: Dead on arrival...
The fact isn't that the game is shit - the fact is the blurb for the game claims a lot of things about the game which simply aren't true.
The blurb provided by the game developer/publisher, and similar to the descriptions on Amazon, Game, and every other retailer? Or do you imagine that all retailers personally write all product descriptions?
It was clearly more fun to poke fun at someones comment than actually doing the small amount of research required.
Poke fun == disagree with? Thanks for the patronising response, but I know how Steam works.
As for GAME, I'm not sure who'd be liable if they sold a game which advertised having things it didn't as most of the staff wouldn't have the means to check ( I worked there for awhile) however we'd prob refund it as faulty.
Exactly like Valve are doing?
Pragmatism, perhaps, but I wish they'd stuck to their guns. I'm watching YouTube HTML5 in FF on Linux with no issues - works perfectly. Seems to be more stable, too, and I'm not seeing any unusual resource usage.
Re: Windows has built-in games?
Wow, quite a surprising level of butthurt over an OS-included pinball game...
Step 1. Go to GoG.com
Step 2. Register. Receive Beneath a Steel Sky/Duke Nukem 3D/Ultima IV for free.
Step 3. Buy the Independence War games for $3.
Step 4. Get over yourself.
Re: Dead on arrival...
They denied something? Where? It's a bit harsh to go laying all the blame at Valve's feet when they didn't develop the game. Would you blame Game if you'd bought War Z off the shelf and it was shit? I'm thinking back to Sword of the Stars 2 as an example, which was released completely broken; no-one blamed the retailers, FFS.
Re: Those were the times
Upvote for the N900. Still got mine, still use it for work stuff over the S3. The S3 is a consumer device, in that you can view things on it, and browse things on it, but the minute I want to actually do something the N900 comes out. A task as simple as searching an e-mailed logfile became a tortuous task on the S3, but takes about 5 seconds on the N900.
Can't you just rotate it the other way so the soft buttons are at the opposite side to your hand?
You're not seriously trying to say I'm "holding it wrong", are you? ;-)
If I'm holding it one-handed at the bottom, it makes sense to rotate it from there.
I'm not sure why someone down-voted you, you were merely expressing your personal preference, whilst accepting that not everyone feels that same.
People do love that button. Two downvotes so far for "I think soft touch is shit and here is why."
Re: Get it right next time
Hysterical much? Satirical mucher.
Twice in two days; if you're going to do satire, don't do crap satire.
Re: Get it right next time
Putting aside the possibility that fracking will cause massive earth tremors that will destroy all our homes, infrastructure and civilisation
Re: My plumber has an iPhone
iPhone starts at £529 SIM free not £650.
I highlighted something for you. Also, he was talking historically, and so was I, though on reflection I got the currency wrong. It was €650.
Personally, I don’t care for Samsung’s insistence on using a physical home key on its phones but I’m obviously in a minority on that score
Personally I wish they'd take soft-touch buttons and throw them down a well, never to be heard of again. I utterly despise them. Almost every time I rotate my S3 one-handed - to watch a video, for example - one tenth of a micron of skin hits the back button and boom! There goes my content. It's absolutely infuriating, and really speaks to the obsession with crap touch controls at the expense of buttons, which work.
More western technologies to corrupt their ways of living....
Those western bastards, giving them the ability to fucking see. You're right, we should stop all these evil culture incursions, such as medicine and food. All we're doing is corrupting them!
Incidentally, you're a ringpiece.
What's wrong with you? You must pull out a device for a poxy 10 hours!
I enjoy keeping my brain stimulated? I'll admit, that's a clear difference between us.
A book too heavy for your puny little boy arms? Stop trying to justify your childish little strop.
Strop? He's moaning about electronics, then watching the in-flight movie, and I'm wondering how. I might also be taking the piss somewhat.
Unless you have an answer for how he can sit on a modern, electronically controlled airliner, watching a digitally recorded film via an electronic device, and have the testicular elephantitis required to call anything he doesn't use a "toy" for them filthy young 'uns...
Or do electronic things scare you, old man?
Re: Linux is much more stable for gaming than windows
Yeah, sure. For Tuxracer maybe. The rest has to be forced to work with a half-assed Windows emulator.
Pathetic, eh? OK, what frameworks does Windows have for running Mac games?
Never mind that the major game engines are pretty much all Linux compatible from the get-go.
Re: final blow for Windows
Your games portfolio must be pretty small. :E
You're only thinking in terms of old software. If they marketed it as a console and got people to develop for it, they'd develop for it as a new platform. I'm pretty certain that the PS3 isn't Windows underneath.
There are thousands of old games that will never get a Mac or Linux port, but if they can encourage major developers to cross-platform the coming games, then in time Windows will become redundant.
Gotta get AMD to fix their drivers first, though. They're horrendous.
Re: Just hurry up with the Linux port
Not too fussed about playing on my telly tbh but they need to get working on the Linux port now.
You know that's in beta, right? I'm in it. The client looks identical to the Windows one, the overlay is a million times faster, and it's currently about as stable as Mel Gibson.
*Cough* Called it.
Bloody knew it. Ten quid says Half Life 3 is the release title. Been saying this for aaaaages.
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