2231 posts • joined Wednesday 10th June 2009 08:25 GMT
Free roaming in the US?
Canda! Do Canada too! Having one UK number with free Canada/US roaming would make my life so much easier.
In what is perhaps a tacit admission that its console isn’t finished product
Are consoles ever going to be finished products again? Both major consoles last generation received regular updates that added (and removed) kit, because they're essentially PCs now. Why would the PS4 be any different?
Strange how people still vigorously deny that Windows Phone is getting anywhere, given that at this rate it has a chance of taking the #2 spot from Apple.
And I'm sure if Apple had 70% of the market their supporters would be crowing about it, so...
And yes, if it's an indicator of trends and future sales, then it certainly is a measure of success.
Man, am I ever glad you came here to tell us all how superior you are! Don't think I could have gone on with my Friday without knowing how much better than me you are because I have a Twitter account.
The difference is the hoop you will have to jump through if the problem is on the PS4 compared to this.
That would be the hoop where Sony immediately RMA the machine and mail you a new one? The horror!
Yeah, but most of those 400 games are slightly pants indie titles.
Can't agree. My Steam for Linux list includes the Double Fine games, the Valve games, the Introversion games, Mark of the Ninja, Bastion, X3, Hotline Miami, Penumbra, Amnesia, Strike Suit Zero, Serious Sam, FEZ, etc. These games won awards for a reason. Hell, I'm currently replaying one of my all-time favourites - Psychonauts!
Every platform has its share of shit games, but the Linux set has more than enough games worth playing, especially compared to a freshly-launched console.
Man, there's some backwards buggers in this thread. Personally, I am one of those video game kids, from pretty much age 4, and my parents rarely restricted my access to any media. I played the violent games and the non-violent ones - whatever I enjoyed, essentially. And how violent, dangerous or otherwise warped did it make me? I got great grades, I never hurt a fly, and I have no criminal record whatsoever. Oooh, the horror.
"You have a degree??"
"I'm sorry! Unreal Tournament made me do it!"
OK, look: if violent video games make violent people, and you all like to call out GTA without actually having played it (as if GTA were anywhere near being the most violent game out there), and GTA is now the fastest selling entertainment product ever, shouldn't the whole of society have just broken down? Shouldn't there be a global prostitute shortage as they're all beaten to death by 11 year olds? It's your posit that if I do it in a video game, I will then do it in real life, so explain then why violent crime figures continue to decline as the popularity of GTA continues to rise.
It's horseshit. I've done some incredibly nasty things inside games, but funnily enough my brain is capable of spotting the difference between pixels and people. My addiction to Civilization didn't make me a general, my love of Time Crisis hasn't made me into a gun-toting murderer, and I can absolutely promise you that Uplink does not teach valid hacking skills. Don't be a moron.
If they decide to ban people for swearing in a game where you shoot people directly in the face, I'll simply ban the overbearing fuckheads from my house.
This is the situation I've been in. The other techies at work are upgrading to the new SSD powered Macs, but I don't want to lose the optical drive, and I don't like having a machine that cannot be serviced in any way. I want to replace the dead optical drive with a new blu-ray jobbie, swap the hard drive for something faster, and double the RAM from 8GB back to 16GB (I had an 8GB stick die on me along with the optical drive, because Macs are more reliable than other machines). Cheaper than buying a new machine, I can do all the servicing myself, but the company would prefer I just got a new one. No thanks, guys.
I can't see why the end result wouldn't be just as capable of doing what I already do. I mean, the machine runs Linux half the time anyway - OSX is the slowest system on here, so I'm not that fussed about Mavericks.
Re: It doesn't say if the CPU and GPU share the ram, or even how much there is.
It's not a very good pic, but that's clearly the Steam logo.
You know Steam has had offline mode for longer than I can remember, right? Yes, you need to be online to activate and download games - obviously - but past that I can always play offline.
The downside of either machine might seem to be a relative lack of games, at least compared to the next-gen
Errrrrr, what? The Steam for Linux store just broke the 400 entry mark. How many games are currently available on the PS4? Sure, Linux is missing the AAA market right now, but that's changing*, and Steam, PSN, XBL long since proved the market for the games that are available.
*Metro: Last Light and Arma: Tactics being recent high-profile converts, as well as Serious Sam before them.
Re: Why Windows is doomed. @ Greg J Preece
Thanks. That's precisely the point I was making.
So only operating systems small enough to not even have 16-bit colour are good enough for you? See, this still seems like a really terrible argument to me, but OK, you stay in the "good old days" and we'll stick to a more....feature rich time. If that's your definition of "bloated", then merely looking acceptable on a modern monitor is apparently grounds for the accusation.
Re: A shining example of how Microsoft got it wrong
James, for a minute I thought I was reading a Linux help forum from a few years ago.
Hang on, were you expecting a GUI-based method of installing a GUI that doesn't yet exist on the system? Errrrr....
Re: Why Windows is doomed. @Wardy01 & @dogged
Windows XP came on a CD, Win 7 on a DVD. I rest my case.
That's a really shitty case. Windows originally came on floppy disks, Windows XP comes on CD, therefore XP is bloated.
See? Really stupid reasoning, isn't it?
Re: Why Windows is doomed.
The reason Windows is finished is speed. They've stuffed it so full of lazy code and pointless bells and whistles that it takes an age to start compared to phone or a tablet.
Have you used Windows recently? It's not my primary operating system, but what you've said here is plain wrong. Of the three systems installed on my Macbook Pro, Windows 8.1 is by far and away the fastest, easily outstripping the OSX that the machine was made for. It boots faster, runs faster, and just feels damn quick all around. Similarly, on my various phones, my Windows Phone is way quicker than the others. Microsoft even made a big deal when WP7 was launched about how blazingly quick it was. I remember being at Mobile World Congress, where they had a challenge set up; if your phone can do anything faster than ours, we'll give you money.
And you can accuse it of being bloated, but my Windows 8 install was smaller than the previous Windows 7 one, and when I installed 8.1 I somehow gained back 10GB of space. It's still far bigger than my Linux install with everything thrown in, but then OSX isn't exactly tiny!
Given how diametrically opposed your claims are to my experience, I have to ask if you've actually used Windows on a day to day basis, or whether you're repeating FUD from the safety of another camp?
Re: total meh
At least the Wii U is managing games at 1080p/60 - the only console in the UK that does.
I'm sure the PS4 is more than capable of running ports of Gamecube-era Zelda games at 1080p... How capable do you reckon the U is of running Shadowfall at all?
Had a play with both the PS4 and the Xbox One already. They're perfectly serviceable pieces of hardware. The quickness of the PS4's interface is a massive improvement, but the new controller will take some getting used to after three generations of near-identical Dualshocks. The new Xbox pad is fine, but not as good as the 360.
I had more fun with the PS4 games than with the Xbox ones personally. The new Killer Instinct is a badly-coloured mess, and Forza had some annoying Kinect lean-to-look thing that I couldn't figure out how to disable, that just left my driver's perspective twitching constantly from left to right - bloody infuriating. Knack and Killzone, on the other hand, are actually pretty fun, and I say that as someone who really didn't like the earlier Killzone games.
I think in 6 months time, when the kinks are worked out, the missing features are patched in, and the delayed games are out, it's gonna be a cracking generation. (Provided Microsoft don't also patch back in the bullshit.)
I'll be getting a PS4, but after some of the interesting looking games for it were delayed until next year, I'm in no rush to go out and get one, especially considering the first-batch hardware problems people have been encountering.
ah yes the here we go again gaming doesnt exist on xbone or PS4 does it now.....Halo, Call of Duty, Gods of War not repetitive at all
At least there's a choice. Don't like those games? Go play others. On Nintendo there are very few games outside the Ninty fold that are capable of making money or worth a damn in the first place.
For people who like games that have visual artistry and brilliant gameplay mechanics.
...There's the indie games on the PSN store?
I was wondering when the inevitable "get a Wii U instead" comments would appear. Hey, are half the top ten sellers on that console still release titles? Yeah, thanks, but I'll go with one of the ones with games outside of Nintendo's very limited pool of here-we-go-again gaming.
Re: what's the fuss?
Perhaps not. Which culture is that? The one which slapped the Catholic Church with roughly $1B in fines?
Re: Inori is close, but not quite...
Hmmmm, joined just to comment on this article, two posts consisting only of how super-dooper-awesome IE 11 is.
*Waves* Hi Microsoft!
A year or two ago, yes. Now? It's just too unstable.
Can't remember the last time I managed to crash it, myself. Flash I can crash, but that's easy to recover from.
Is it bad that I quite like this thing? I saw it the other day and the animation/design is pretty impressive. You have to admit, it's a step up from the 90s Microsoft ads. Who else remembers "W-w-w-Windows, Windows, 386!"
Re: underpowered but consistant hardware
Time was, an N64, was an N64
Until you plugged the memory expansion module into it.
Hardware revisions have been going on for as long as there have been computers. No biggie.
Re: Missing one thing...
Where are the games?
The creep toward major publishers putting games on Linux is starting. Metro: Last Light has just been put on Steam for Linux, Tripwire have been putting everything on Linux, as have Double Fine, Valve themselves, and Egosoft. All we need is for someone like Activision to start doing it, and a console might be that trigger.
Steam for Linux now has (I think) over 300 entries in the store.
Re: what xbox ?
for media playback i assume, not having discs is the whole point of steam, no
Actually, Steam does support installing from disc, and games only ever get bigger, so optical disc transfer might still be viable, at least for this generation.
This wasn't already illegal? They're pushing for gay marriage, but it's still legal to sack people for being gay?
Re: Fixit were able to take it apart
Do they re-use the pile of junk they have created?
Isn't the point of the exercise to find out whether they can?
It's one of the most polished and modern-looking alternative OSes out there, too.
*Glances at screenshot.*
Ever hear of the disposable society?
You know most people see that as a bad thing, right?
Re: So what did Google say about Android
So you should throw an android out after less than two years
Yes, that's what they implied by saying they wouldn't put Kit-Kat on the phone. In fact, if you can't get Kit-Kat on your phone, it instead downloads an update that makes it explode, so best to throw it away first. There's no possible way it could keep working otherwise.
Re: This is definitely a DEALBREAKER, a classic sneaky, royally scumbag corporate move...
How exactly did they dupe you if they never said it could do any of those things you're now complaining it can't do? I mean, in terms of media it sounds fairly similar to my PS3, which I use for media all the time, so...yeah, that's about the level I expected. It's a feckin' games console, and you're complaining that it focuses on games. I'm glad it focuses on games!
Hang on a minute...so of the "limitations" you're complaining about with the PS4, one is that it can potentially do 4K, but they haven't enabled it? OK, so it's vastly superior to the Xbone that's still upscaling 720p for some games, but that's a limitation?
And it can do 3D, but no-one's making 3D games at launch because they're mostly pointless, and that's a limitation of the console?
And it can't play CDs, like no-one in their right mind has for years (and I still buy CDs), and that's a limitation?
It has features that you have no particular interest in using, and that's a limitation?
Hey, El Reg, this just in - the PS4 can't play Betamax either! What a restricted, locked-down POS! Seriously, this article was straining for things to nitpick in the console. Face it, it's still a better prospect than its peers.
The lack of backward compatibility does annoy me though. I mean really, how different is a Dualshock 4 to a Dualshock 3? If the Move can work with it, the PS3 controllers should be able to.
Something about not spending any more money on non-essentials I think.
Of course, the problem we've had for years is convincing the Americans that their grossly OTT armed forces are "non-essential".
Re: The point is
I can't replace the engine (myself) in my car either...
But you can replace the battery, surely? Or swap out a wheel when you get a flat? Or change the oil?
No-one's asking to be able to completely disassemble the motherboard and replace the A7 (the correct comparison to a car engine), just to be able to have some serviceable parts, especially the low cost ones that fail most often.
Re: Is there anybody who approves of this?
How often do you take your phone or tablet apart?
If it's broken? Pretty regularly. I'll happily rip a gadget to pieces if I can fix it myself.
PC gaming is back on the rise, too. After the original Xbox One announcement I heard plenty of voices within the gaming community saying "right, that's the final straw, back to PC". Steam has apparently just eclipsed Xbox Live in terms of active subscribers, and the PC platform has really been leading the way in gaming in recent years, more so than usual. Better online services, cross-platform gaming, cheaper prices, more games, more peripherals and huge support for a thriving indie scene full of interesting ideas.
Given that my preference has always been for the PC platform, it's great to see the revival happening, especially after a period of time where it looked like PC versions of games were either going to be half-arsed across the board, or abandoned altogether.
Re: FLASHblock also blocks the FLASH advertisements
Riiight, because Mozilla have a track record of giving a toss what advertisers think. They partly created the proposed Do Not Track header, have had click-to-run for outdated Flash versions for a long time, opposed DRM in web standards, etc, etc. I think you're thinking of Chrome.
Re: @Greg J Preece
Greg J Preece sounds like the sort of pig-ignorant person that this article is featuring. Obviously never been brought up to have some kind of good manners and quite obviously unable to interact and give other people undivided attention.
Obviously. Yep, from three posts that you clearly didn't read properly, you've got my entire personality nailed.
Why are you at a meeting/presentation so boring that playing with your shiny-shiny is necessary?
Christ's sake, can at least 10% of you at least attempt to read a post properly before leaping onto high horses.
If the meeting/presentation is worth your time, put the toys away unless you are on call
Which I am. And you'd know that if you'd read my posts.
Re: Shipment doesn't mean...
Actually, my Nexus 7 is rather spiffing. Admittedly, it might not be running Android any more, but that's the nice thing about non-Apple kit.
I hear Ford Focus card are popular too, but would you really expect anyone to care if you mentioned you owned one?
I think you're using the wrong metrics when deciding what type of bloody phone to buy...
Looks like we've been having nicer weather than the UK recently. :-p
Stop broadcasting an SSID altogether and configure your devices manually?
Re: I am an Apple fan...
I doubt it. The thing Apple got right was that you can't stick a keyboard/mouse interface on a phone, something MS has been trying (and failing) to do for ages. If they have forgotten that lesson, their design prowess is shallower than I thought.
It was 2011 when Lion started the conversion of OSX into iOS, with its pointless Launchpad crap and the ditching of Rosetta (which is fair enough in a way, but was still part of the strategy). Jobs was still around then, just about, and I don't doubt for a second that it was his idea.
Re: I am an Apple fan... (@AC)
I also think we're already several years past the point where people who like to upgrade their computers would consider a Mac?
I dunno. There's a difference between laptops not being that upgradeable, and not even being able to jam more RAM into it. With the new Macbooks you can't easily replace anything. Custom hard drive, RAM soldered to the motherboard (seriously Apple, piss off), etc. I'm typing on a Macbook Pro right now, and the first thing I did when I got it was shove 16GB of RAM into it. Apple were going to charge me 300 quid for an upgrade that cost me 100 quid, so I did it myself. Bollocks to the new Pros - this one's already had two hardware failures that I fixed for $100, and replacing those parts in the new ones would have cost me thousands.
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