* Posts by Richard Plinston

2608 publicly visible posts • joined 27 Apr 2009

Microsoft buries Sinofsky Era... then jumps on the coffin lid

Richard Plinston

Re: A common API is definitely a must.

> Windows has always had a common API. It is called Win32.

You are obviously new to this thing called computers. Win32 did not exist on several versions of Windows. It started as Win32s, a limited version, as an add on to Win3.1. It developed in Win95, 98 and ME. A _different_, but almost compatible Win32 was written for NT but it wasn't until XP that the incompatibilities were mostly resolved.

Windows RT does not have the full Win32 API, it does have a limited subset and probably many incompatibilities.

> you can run a Win32 app written 10 years ago in any machine without any issues.

Simply not true for _any_ program. That is why Win7 has 'XP compatibility mode'. Basically an emulation of the WinXP Win32 API because there are differences.

Boeing bent over for new probe as 787 batteries vent fluid, start to MELT

Richard Plinston

Re: Not sure about this

> If you have four enormous engines running, in flight,

They save half the fuel by only having two engines !!

> I don't understand how batteries can help you save fuel during flight,

It doesn't. Actually, while the engines are more fuel efficient than previous jets, the 20% claimed fuel saving is not in total fuel used per flight but is fuel saving per seat-mile. By having less structure weight by using composites instead of metal and saving weight on batteries and stuff they can put in more seats and more passengers.

Google stabs Wikipedia in the front

Richard Plinston

> No. Jus like in any other industry where you have a dominant player, they need to not use their dominant position in one area to unfairly compete in another.

You mean like MS gives Nokia $1 billion a year from Office revenues to subsidize Windows Phone so they can sell 520s cheaper than Androids (and it still makes a loss.)

Like the division that sells XBox has accumulated approx $4 billion losses paid for from Office revenues.

> Microsoft had to unbundle IE,

IE was another example where it was 'for free' to kill off Netscape and this came from Windows and Office revenue. It also killed off Spyglass (who had written IE).

And, no, it wasn't 'unbundled'. MS was told to put up a screen offering other browsers, but this was 'forgotten' after a short while.

Top Microsoft bod: ARM servers right now smell like Intel's (doomed) Itanic

Richard Plinston

> I don't know if anyone here has used RT ... I daresay all that's missing is the server apps like DNS, DHCP,

You seem to have no idea what a server may be used for. It's not just for storing a few files.

Where are ARM versions of: IIS, MSSQLServer, Sharepoint, Backup manager, Terminal Services and hundreds of other _server_ applications ? Does RT even have SMB server capability ?

Richard Plinston

> If there's any problem with ARM it is the fact that every SOC is different.

And when you look at x86 _systems_, which include GPU, RAM controllers, network, USB, etc controllers you find that every _system_ is different.

That is why there are hundreds of device drivers.

Richard Plinston

Re: @DainB

> Also correct me if I'm wrong but ARM for now has only one advantage over Intel and this is power consumption

You are wrong.

Intel builds chips to suit its own marketing needs. ARM chips can be designed and built by companies to suit _their_ needs. For example chips can be designed to suit a specific workload on servers.

ARM also has an advantage on price. A few years ago, before significant numbers of smartphones were being sold, ARM said that a billion ARM chips were being made every year and the cheapest were being sold in quantity for 50 cents each. Now that quantity has more than doubled.. The Raspberry Pi can be purchased for $25 and that is a complete system.

Dell will AXE up to ONE IN THREE workers in its US & EMEA sales teams

Richard Plinston

Re: New Dell motto

> "Pink slip"

And there was I thinking that Dell was going to give them cars.

Intel bungs PC on an SD: Tiny computer for Internet of Things and wearables

Richard Plinston

> If it is an SD card it will require a host and that makes very little sense for the interwebs of things.

It makes a great deal of sense for development. Put the card in a reader on a PC and load up your programs to it, copy off the debug logs from a previous run, and such. Put it back in the device to run those programs.

It is also the reason that it doesn't have a 'hump' over the aerial - there is no need for the aerial when it is in a standard SD reader.

How hard is that ?

The production devices will use the soldered (non-SD) cards.

Richard Plinston

Re: Volume

> if it was a smartphone it would be considered a failure.

Mainly because it doesn't have the hardware required to make calls.

Why 2014 might just be the year of the Google Chromebook

Richard Plinston

Re: Don't think so.

> The "Microsoft killed them" argument is just a case of "A Big Boy did it an ran away"

Yes they did. They used 'loyalty discounts', and revived XP to force their OEMs to offer XP netbooks _only_. If the OEMs could have offered XP _or_ Linux then the outcome may have been different. As it was XP required larger disks, so HDs were installed, more CPU, more RAM, and this priced them the same as small laptops.

Netbooks were intended to be cheap with DVD player screens, SD 'disks'.

> 2014 will not be "The Year of Linux on the Desktop"

2014 won't be _anyone's_ year on the desktop. It will be Linux's 'Year on the Personal Compters', again, where these are the more personal smartphones and tablets. Not just with Android, but with FirefoxOS, Tizen, Sailfish, Ubuntu and others.

> Until Linux gives the punters the applications they know and are used to

What most users are 'used to' is Firefox, Chrome, and Android apps (and iOS apps). You may want to only use Windows, Office, Photoshop and Visual Studio and no one will stop you doing that.

Pre-Xmas phone numbers: Apple slips, Windows Phone grabs 1 in 10 new sales

Richard Plinston

Re: Credibility = none

> Sherlock with his shiny new iPhone 5 [...] Mycroft [...] Nokia Lumia 920.

And the message was: Sherlock is cool, Mycroft is associated with the 'evil empire'.

> I think they wanted a Red phone

That does explain the sales of the 520: "I want the pink one. What's an OS? Anyway, it is cheap.".

Richard Plinston

> They can use successful product ranges to support less successful product ranges.

That is why countries have anti-trust laws:

""" A company with large cash reserves can dictate the price of their products and they may use predatory pricing to stifle competition and force them out of business."""

Richard Plinston

Re: Market Share vs Profit?

> Just because old handsets can't be updated to newer software which requires beefier hardware doesn't mean that the old handsets are no longer supported.

WM6.x was dead-end when WP7 apps did not run on WM6.5. WP8 apps do not run on WP7. So what do you mean by 'supported' ?

Richard Plinston

Re: Market Share vs Profit?

> when it comes to supporting things in the long term,

Microsoft dumped WM6.x and replaced it with a completely incompatible WP7. They then dead-ended that when WP8 was totally incompatible. So twice in recent years users have been left with obsolete devices and you trust MS ?

Android will ship more than ONE BILLION mobes+slabs in 2014

Richard Plinston

Re: Yawn

> 6) Number of people who own an Android device, compared to number who actually use them for much beyond a phone and contacts (maybe facebook/email) is pretty disparate.

Many people buy a phone because they want ... a phone.

They choose between a dumbphone and a low end Android at around the same price level. They don't want to do anything else with it.

Richard Plinston

> How long has Android had "80%" market share and yet Apple and iOS is still the first choice for many developers.

It is possible that 'many' is roughly 20%.

Ubuntu desktop is so 2013... All hail 2014 Ubuntu mobile

Richard Plinston

Re: The paradigm may be already lost

> But just as the PC was never capable of running mainframe software,

That is not true. The IBM PC lineup included the IBM PC XT/370 which ran mainframe software as well as PC-DOS. There was also the IBM 3270 PC but that was just a mainframe terminal that was also a PC-DOS PC. see Byte Fall 1984.

Also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC-based_IBM-compatible_mainframes

Richard Plinston

Re: Microsoft's failure is Canonical's failure.

> The reason the industry thinks the desktop environment is dying is clear enough:

That is a straw man argument, 'the industry' doesn't think that "the desktop environment is dying", it thinks that the desktop _market_ is declining (for the reasons that you point out).

> Microsoft developed Win8 because they think the desktop is dying

No they didn't. They see a decline in _sales_, not a decline in usage. The reason they put Metro onto Win8 is because Windows Phone was not selling, plus they were working towards tablets with WP interface. Consultants told them the lack of WP sales were bacause of unfamiliarity with the UI. Bu putting this UI in Win8 they were going to make it "the most familiar user interface" (see MS announcements) and then users would _demand_ the same UI on their phones and tablets.

""" Myerson expects the coming release of Windows 8 for PCs to give the software giant's mobile platform a huge consumer awareness boost.

"The most familiar user interface for people worldwide will be Metro very soon," Myerson said. "And that's just great for the phone business."

Microsoft needs to get that message out to consumers so they understand why Windows Phone is a better choice for them, Myerson said. """

Microsoft always intended that users would have (buy) all 3 types of devices: desktop, tablet, phone; and that all would have the same UI. They thought this would be a sales point against Apple and Android.

World's cheapest tablet just got CHEAPER

Richard Plinston

Re: put an Aakash in the hands of every school kid in the country in 5-7 years

> No Andoid device older than maybe 2 years will run a recent browser,

Gingerbread (2.3.x) is 3 years old. It has a pretty good browser and runs Firefox (as you say on ARMv7 or above). In fact Firefox will run on Froyo 2.2 which is 3.5 years old.

> Other apps follow a similar pattern.

Yes they do. Most apps are still built for Gingerbread or above.

> So based on track record of Android progression and compatibility, the chances of the majority of mainstream apps made in the next 5-7 years being able to run on _any_ Android device sold today don't look that great.

Android has made great progression and has maintained backwards compatibility via the SDK. Developers can choose the level of support right back to version 1. As there are large numbers of version 2.3 still being made (now up to 2.3.9) and about 40% of Android devices in use run this then they are likely to use this when the app will fit.

> The apps' backward compatibility with older versions of Android has never been all that great.

That is not true.

Windows Phone app developers: These games are made for you

Richard Plinston

> Not too many thumb drives have WiFi.

'Thumb drives' are not the only 'external storage', but if you really want that then you can have it without cables: http://www.hypershop.com/

> It seems a bit daft to argue that having a USB port somehow makes a tablet less portable;

No, it is all the hundreds of devices that you seem to want to connect that does that, and all the USB cables.

> do mini-HDMI / DP ports have the same effect?

There are other ways of connecting devices than a USB port that you seem fixated on. Many of those don't require a nest of USB cables (granted HDMI does require a cable).

> Here's one use for the USB on the move: copying files from the camera SDHC card while on holiday.

My camera (Panasonic) has WiFi (host or client) and can send photos to my tablet or phone (or other) while I take photos, and can also be remotely controlled from the phone - without a USB cable - use Lumix Link.

Richard Plinston

> Also, bear in mind, that RT is full Windows ported to ARM, it is more logical to run Windows programs.

No it isn't. It has a cut down Win32 API that is restricted to being only available to Microsoft products*.

> That is why it doesn't support USB devices like a mouse, keyboard and memory sticks, additional monitors, external storage etc., the list is very long.

Various tablets are _portable_ devices. Carrying around all those so you can connect them via USB makes them less portable. In any case keyboards connect via bluetooth, external storage via WiFi, 'monitors' via HDMI. There is no need for a long list.

* there are ways of hacking this restriction.

Richard Plinston

Re: Of course you're not seeing Windows Phones...

> IDEs are also free and there isn't the added "you now need to buy a Mac" charge.

How is that different from "need to buy a Windows [8] PC" charge* ?

* I don't have a Windows machine.

Richard Plinston

Re: Of course you're not seeing Windows Phones...

> everything to do with how easy it is to get into. Cost to get started is minimal - SDKs are free,

How is that different from any other phone development system ?

Bluetooth Smart dev board hits US, UK for sub-$100

Richard Plinston

Re: Doomed PC? Hardly

> Ok, PC market vs PC. I suppose that's a valid point, but the difference is splitting hairs.

No, it isn't 'splitting hairs'. You thought that it meant PCs were about to be taken away from users, who would then have to do their work on tablets and phones.

> It's just one of many articles I've read recently sounding like a prophet of doom about the PC. All are ridiculous.

They only seem to be "ridiculous" if you completely misunderstand what they say. They are not about ripping your PC away from you, they are saying that you, and others, will keep your existing PC longer, for various reasons*, and therefore the number _sold_ will be less (thus the PC _market_ is doomed) while the number _used_ will probably still increase**.

* Offloading tasks to tablets and phones, such as email, web, games; budget constraints; existing PC is 'good enough'; wanting to avoid Windows 8; ...

** because the numbers being discarded are less than the numbers sold.

Richard Plinston

Re: Doomed PC? Hardly

> But that doesn't mean that PC's aren't needed

The statement says that the 'PC market' is doomed, not 'PCs'. The market declines because, mostly, those that need PCs already have an adequate one and will put off replacing them with something better and spend money on toys like this.

> This is not going to change for many years to come.

No, and more and more PC users are not going to change their PCs either - leading to a decline in the _market_.

Munich signs off on Open Source project

Richard Plinston

> HP expert Eden, who conducted the study on behalf of Microsoft, comes to the conclusion: ". Quoted 11 million euros in savings from Linux to a Microsoft solution can be as simple not vote and are not even plausible"

The Microsoft funded 'report' has been discredited. It makes assumptions about costs that were never incurred. For example it includes the cost of new replacement machines when existing NT machines were reused. It does not include many licence costs which would have been incurred if Windows was retained. It does not include the re-training costs of moving from NT -> XP -> Vista -> Win7 -> Win8 not costs of Office 1997 -> 2000 -> 2007 -> 2010 -> ...

In this way it has inflated the 'estimated' costs of moving to Linux/OO.org well beyond what Munich actually spent while 'estimating' a much lower figure than is possible for what would have been spent to keep with Windows/Office. It also made up an entirely fictitious amount alleged to have been spent by IBM.

Richard Plinston

Re: And then

> So to correct the very misleading headline figures above, in reality, after ten years, a full 30% of their user base still needs to use Windows.....either physically or via Citrix...

Windows is irrelevant. Some of the user base needs to _sometimes_ access specific _applications_, which are probably third party. It happens that those applications still only run on Windows.

You seem to think that they have done this because they hate Microsoft. Actually they have done the conversion first to save money (which they have) and also to have control over their own systems rather than having other companies control them.

You may hate 'the opposition', this is obvious from your posts, but others aren't driven by hatred. You may generate FUD (nothing you say is actually true) but, while many have a MS policy due to fear, others aren't intimidated by your rants.

But the real question is: why do you care with so much passion and hatred ? Does every Linux installation diminish you personally, do you lose yet another brain cell every time someone does not buy a copy of Windows ?

Richard Plinston

Re: PCs

> Wonder where they got the PC without Windows.

Originally many of the PCs that ran NT were reused for Linux. That was part of the saving. They would have had to be replaced for XP, and again for Vista. The Microsoft/HP 'report' wrongly included the cost of new machines at frequent intervals (as is done for Windows) to arrive at their inflated figures.

Apple iPhone 5s still world's top-selling smartphone – report

Richard Plinston

Re: Nokia

> but doesn't tell so much about the OS war.

It is only Microsoft, and their supporters, that think that it is a 'war'. The others are just supplying the best products and letting the users choose.

Ballmer: 'We made more money than almost anybody on the PLANET'

Richard Plinston

Re: BALLMER: 'WE MADE MORE MONEY THAN ALMOST ANYBODY ON THE PLANET'

> No, it's more like saying a microcomputer is a mainframe because they are similar in functionality.

What's your point?

'Mainframes' and even SperComputers are now being built using 'microcomputer' CPUs.

> I owned a Newton, it was all geared around personal data management, it was not geared around being a general purpose computing device.

In what way is an iPad _not_ "geared around personal data management"?

The Newton had various 'general purpose' applications. You wouldn't run a web server* on it, but then you probably wouldn't on a iPad or Surface.

"""Works word processor and the Newton Internet Enabler, as well as the inclusion of bundled 3rd party applications, such as the QuickFigure Works spreadsheet (a "lite" version of Pelicanware's QuickFigure Pro), Pocket Quicken, the NetHopper web browser, and the EnRoute email client."""

* My Nokia N800 does run a web server.

Richard Plinston

Re: BALLMER: 'WE MADE MORE MONEY THAN ALMOST ANYBODY ON THE PLANET'

> Apple's Newton was a PDA, not a tablet.

That is like saying that Microsoft had the first GUI because the others weren't called 'Windows'.

Terminology may have changed but functionality hasn't.

Richard Plinston

Re: BALLMER: 'WE MADE MORE MONEY THAN ALMOST ANYBODY ON THE PLANET'

> In their defence, they did have tablets on the market the thick end of a decade before Apple.

Simply not true. Apple's Newton was released in 1987.

> WM6 was an entirely useable mobile phone app (which allowed easy development and deployment of apps),

Not according to:

http://gizmodo.com/333536/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it

Microsoft made an error in making its early tablets and phones have a desktop-like UI. Later they made a mistake by making its desktops have a tablet/phone UI.

I KNOW how to SAVE Microsoft. Give Windows 8 away for FREE – analyst

Richard Plinston

Re: Except Apple aren't giving it away for free.

> but then you'd need to pay MS an annual subscription to keep the system up to date.

But then you'd need to pay MS an annual subscription to keep the system up to date use the system at all.

> In a world where people are moaning that their Android phone is stuck on a 2 or 3 release old version ... it seems strange that people are reluctant to upgrade to newer versions of Windows

They are not the same people.

Those with XP are probably quite happy to keep their Android 2.3.7 phones.

Richard Plinston

> MS doesn't make hardware!

Z80 Softcard, mice, keyboards, XBox, watches, Surface.

Richard Plinston

> It is already free to all intents and purposes. Nobody willingly buys Windows. They just get it bundled when they buy a new PC.

No, it is _not_ free. It happens that the price that is paid for Windows is included in the price of the computer. Just because you don't see that does not mean it doesn't exist.

You may as well say "the CPU is free".

'Don't hate on me for my job!' Googlers caught up in SF rent protest ruckus

Richard Plinston

Re: Public? Gimme! Gimme!

> Big tech companies borrowing public bus stops isn't going to work either.

And I thought that 'public' meant that it could be used by the 'public' (ie everyone) as a place to stop buses. Do you think that they should be made 'private' ?

World's OLDEST human DNA found in leg bone – but that's not the only boning going on...

Richard Plinston

Re: @Richard Plinston

> substituting them for real people that are no Gods doesn't seem to answer anything.

Yes it does. You appear to think that the term 'God' means, and must irretrievably mean: 'an actual supernatural omnipotent extraterrestrial being'. And thus Hirohito, when he was called a Shinto God, was being said to be an actual supernatural ... being, that returned to being only a human when the allies told him to.

Some refer to the Christian God (whatever they mean by that as 'Lord'. In London there is a House full of Lords - are they 'actual supernatural ...' too?

If, however, we were to use the term God as 'a leader or hero elevated to that of a deity with [non-existing] supernatural powers', then that substitution does answer [almost] everything.

> But worship them as all powerful deities? I'm not sure what logic there is in that.

I see no logic in that either, but apparently that doesn't deter others. Rastafarians hold that Haile Selassie (who was born Ras Tafari*) is their God, Shintos worshiped Hirohito, I am sure there are many other examples that are current.

> He might have been the son of God,

He might have been claiming that he was descended from the pre-Roman line of Kings, especially David. However, the term 'father' is also used for a priest or a teacher. Saying 'the Lord is my father' does not necessarily mean paternity, it may mean 'he was my teacher'.

* Did I mention that my Grandfather was presented a Lion skin cape by Ras Tafari in Aden in 1922?

Richard Plinston

Re: Oh come on Reg, y

> Your argument that since he doesn't describe the underlying quantum mechanism it is not a theory ...

I am not sure where you got that from at all. If you want to criticise me than do so based on what I write and not on your illogical misreadings. I made no such argument.

Newton did describe _how_ gravity works in terms of mass and distance within the limits of our 'normal' environment. That it is called a 'law' doesn't distract from this being a well established theory.

Richard Plinston

Re: Oh come on Reg, y

> Thus supporting the evolution theory. (Using the scientific definition of the word)

"evolution theory" is not a thing. It is like saying that "falling down supports the gravity theory". Gravity is observable, it exists, the theories are about _how_ it works.

Evolution is observable, it exists, the theories are about _how_ it works.

The various '[my]goddunnit' hypotheses, well stories really, were early attempts at an explanation. There were dozens of very different ones.

Richard Plinston

Re: Interesting, but changes little

> So, if we were to assume that a deity did exist, which one is it? The Christian God? Allah? Vishnu? They can't all be right.

When you ask the wrong question then the answer is irrelevant.

Yes they could all have existed. The term 'God' has been applied to people in our time: Hirohito was a God until the allies made him stop. Haile Selassie was, and still is, the God of the Rastafarians. Caesars became Gods when they died, Pharaohs were Gods. I have heard people say (on documentary films) that (the name not to be mentioned) and Obama were Gods, or at least god-like.

There is no reason that Jehovah. the God of the Jews, was not a real person: king, chief, warlord or whatever (or possibly a dynasty of several successive 'lords'); that was elevated to the status of a God. The same would be true of many of the other 'Gods'. Many of those ancient Gods fell into disuse as deities as they were replaced. With the Jews, though, they had a covenant, a contract, between the people and Jehovah that granted them their promised land. If he 'died' or fell into disuse then the contract was voided. Consequently they kept him as their deity so that they could claim a home.

It is difficult to decide what is meant by "The Christian God". This was supposed to be finally determined by the First Council of Nicaea, but wasn't and still isn't.

Richard Plinston

> Evolutionary theory ....

Evolution is an observable process. It can be seen in the fossil record, it can be observed in, say, bacteria. It can even be controlled with, say, animal husbandry to cause new variations in a short time.

The theories are explanations of the _causes_ of evolution. Darwin's theory was not that evolution happened, that was accepted, but that one cause was 'survival of the fittest'. Actually it was more non-survival of the less fit. Another theory is that of 'sexual selection'. Both are supported by evidence and have been tested by predicting outcomes. These are not exhaustive and there may be other causes alongside these two. Even Lamark's work has not been totally discounted.

Microsoft 'cautiously optimistic' about Christmas sales

Richard Plinston

Re: @Tom 35

> "Windows Phone outsells iOS in Latin America"

And there is more to it:

"Windows Phone shipments in Latin America have surpassed those of the Apple iPhone family"

The drop in Apple shipments is likely due to delaying until the new models were available.

"""According to Kantar, a large chunk of Windows Phone sales come from lower-end devices. That suggests that in Europe as in Latin America, people looking for a cheap smartphone may be finding the Windows Phone an attractive alternative to Android."""

Apple sell at the high end so these are not directly competing anyway.

Beijing leans on Microsoft to maintain Windows XP support

Richard Plinston

Re: Alternate

> No it wouldn't - the ongoing TCO of a current Microsoft OS and toolset are generally lower than alternatives

You only say that because you have a brain implant with a direct feed from Redmond marketing department.

Richard Plinston

Alternate

Given the cost of replacing XP with a newer version of Windows for half the Windows machines in China, and potentially replacing many of those machines with newer hardware, it would be cheaper to fork ReactOS and make it work fully so that it can replace XP for free.

Doing this would likely get Microsoft to a) extend support and b) provide upgrade pricing for Windows 7 for XP users.

But they should stick to using their ReactOS.

Android tablets to outsell laptops by 2017: IDC

Richard Plinston

> their Windows Mobile prediction was completely wrong, because it's now Windows Phone...

Which is a large part of why they didn't sell as many as the prediction. Microsoft dumped WM6.x and replaced it with a completely incompatible WP7 (but still CE based and thus rather limited). This then was dumped and replaced by a mostly incompatible WP8.

With the RT/WP 'convergence' scheduled for 2015 this may result in yet another incompatible system.

This dump and replace 'strategy' disrupts the developers and enterprise users who build their own in-house apps, which then cascades down to general users.

Richard Plinston

> You don't need a hulking PC for that anymore.

You probably do, but the one bought a few years ago will do that job for a few more.

iPhone slips in Europe as Windows Phone claims OVER 10% market share

Richard Plinston

Re: re:MS / Nokia are selling a lot of units because they are very heavily subsidized

> How much does ...

That is not particularly relevant. Microsoft gave Nokia at least $1billion a year and yet Nokia still showed a loss. It only showed a profit in one quarter when it sold its headquarters and took that in as revenue.

It was selling many of its phones at below cost. An analysis claimed that the price of many devices needed to be raised by 15% for the company to break even.

Richard Plinston

Re: Lolz

> Once iphone drops below 10% market share, I expect app developers will begin to prioritise iOS lower than Android/WinPho.

Developers target the numbers of phones that are in use, not just the ones that are sold today. The total sales of iPhone since the start of 2011 is around 320 million. The total of all WP8 phone sales seems to be less than 30million.

iPhone's app market is 10 times that of WP8, it will take several years before WP8 could sell enough to get close to that, even if Apple never sold another phone. It is likely that the converged WP8 + RT OS (in 2015) will replace both with something, yet again, incompatible with either, restarting the counter again.

The only way is Office: UK Parliament to migrate to Microsoft cloud

Richard Plinston

Re: Hmmmm

> the data must not be stored anywhere in US juristriction.

How can possibly work, the Americans think US jurisdiction applies to the whole world.

Best budget Android smartphone there is? Must be the Moto G

Richard Plinston

Re: The VERY definition of Android Landfill @ Nick

> However, for the several million folks who DO buy one, how many are going to have a set of Torx lying around ...

> None

Irrelevant - the service agent/ battery seller will have Torx screw drivers. Anyway, for those determined to open the back, Torx screws can be easily unscrewed by the point of an appropriate knife blade.

> and (even if you are correct about the soldered sheet metal)

I am right, you are wrong. It is obvious from the photos that there is no box of any sort over the battery, nor any mention in the article of one in connection with the battery.