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I get how it hides itself in a shared library once its installed but how does it get there in the first place?
Presumably you would need root permissions install the shared library. Is there an update system compromised or could it be a rogue sysadmin?
If nothing else, the should get the RIAA etc industries involved because GCHQ must have copied and used LinkedIns content without permission.
Wonder who would win? ;)
Re: Ch Ch Ch Changes
when was the last time you were on ./ So many promotions badly disguised as stories.
Its not ruined yet but certainly spend a lot less time there than I did
Re: Some rules do need to be tightened
And the tactic works all too well.
I had a conversation with my mother not that long ago that I started by moaning about having to take my belt off when going through an airport checkpoint.
I said that next they will be wanting us to strip naked and then fly in airline provided surgical gowns.
My mum replied that so long as it keeps us safe from terrorism that's ok.
I'm still not sure whether to be angry or depressed at her attitude.
The USPTO certainly shares a good chunk of the blame.
It could have been Google, IBM, Msft or a host of other however, as usual it wasn't. They could also grab the patent and then not use it offensively however they don't do that either.
Plenty of blame for both parties.
I haven't time to read the interview transcript but does Woz actually says anything like that?
The quote says that he wants them to work together rather than singling out either company for not wanting to share.
Some flame bating from the author perhaps? Especially given Apples refusal to licence any of its 'patents' and quick to throw a sue-ball tendencies.
Re: Nexus 4 owner here - caveat emptor
I'm not sure what you mean by build quality issues in the nexus 4. I have one and the only complaint is the glass back but I use a cover so its not an issue anyway.
I have never noticed any screen inaccuracies and get 2 days battery use with light usage (including background tasks that sync backups and lot of push messages).
I don't use the camera much but the odd pics I take with it seem ok to me.
I wont be getting the Nexus 5 (unless something happens to my N4) and am hoping that a Ubuntu/Tizen/Sailfish phone gets up and running for my next phone because I'm not 100% comfortable with the direction that Google/Android is heading.
I find it funny that you think that Apple do hardware right after so many issues with home button breaking, dust in the screen in the 3's, various antenna issues in the 4, 5s accelerometer etc. It is a high quality product but not so good that its worth putting on a pedestal!
so the same committee that basically said move along, nothing to see here is now going to be in charge of determining if the laws need changing.
Anyone willing to offer odds on them making a proposal that simply requires all data to be routed through GCHQ with criminal charges against anyone who dares to question what is being collected. Of course the wording will be slightly different because they are doing it for our benefit and of course lets not forget TERRORISTS!!1!.1!1!!! with a side order of Think of the Children!
"Far from being gratuitous harvesters of private information, in practice we focus our work very carefully and tightly against those who intend harm. The law requires it. All our internal controls, systems and authorisation levels are built accordingly and subject to independent inspection and oversight."
how do they know which bits are interesting unless they grab it all and then analyse it?
If all internal controls, systems and authorisation levels are built around focused searches then which ones are there to cover the drag nets ones they have been caught doing?
<quote>Apple's argument was that since the iPhone is more than a phone (e.g. Is a computer/music player/games machine as well as a phone)</quote>
Well maybe they shouldn't have named it an IPhone then ;)
Re: Steam on Linux
I have the exact same setup as you (Mint 13 instead of Ubuntu) and it worked as soon as I installed the Nvidia drivers through the proprietary repository.
It was a single click process so I'm a little dubious as to whether i'm feeding a troll.
I don't play a lot of games these days but every now and then one comes along that I *have* to have. The last one was XCOM: Bureau. If that had of come out for Steam Linux I think I would have finally blown away my windows partition and freed up my SSD to move my linux partition on there.
A couple of big brand exclusives would probably be enough to build up a critical mass.
Re: Same old same old.....
Agreed, my last phone was a Desire Z. Loved the phone but never received an update and there were a number of very annoying bugs that were never patched.
Good hardware, woeful support.
Re: DR - never important until you need it
That makes it tricky then. I would be highly concerned at corrupted backup files.
Might need to update your asset registry with application version levels as well as OS
</quote>The real lesson here is "add the php config files to the nightly backup set."</quote>
except I don't think that would have worked here.
from memory the version of PHP that came with earlier versions of Centos didn't require a config entry to allow for short tags, its only in newer versions.
Even if you had the original config files it would still fail. At least that was my experience going from centos 4 to 6 where I had the original config.
DR - never important until you need it
Part of your DR plan is always about having a location to put it!
also no DR plan works the first time so an actual disaster shouldn't be the first time you implement it. It should be tested until the most junior tech can make it work
If they had a alternate data centre with 'gobs of storage' why wouldn't you have copies of the VM already stored and tested ready to bring up and have the latest backup data restored to it.
Also if you're having to build from scratch why would you install a different OS version? wouldn't you put in place the exact same version?
I was bitten by the php short tags depreciation a couple of months ago but it was for a planned migration so it wasn't panic inducing.
Re: Waste of time
How long before the message will be,
"Widget detected. Design too similar to patented product. You cannot print this model without buying licence"
Re: Sell it like this
ah except opting out wont be any faster because the filter is now at the isp level rather than at your house.
So every request made will have to be checked for naughty content and then checked against the "dirty people who want to see naughty things" list before you get to the good stuff.
Slower internet for everyone. Hurray!
Pint because i'm really depressed at where the world is heading and this might numb the pain for a few minutes
Re: No wonder Linux is falling apart
How many times does it need to be said. The kernel != Linux.
And you moaning about new versions highlights Linus' previous rant perfectly where devs were trying to sneak features into a patch that was meant to be for fixes only.
So basically he's trying to get everything stabilised and fixed while people constantly keep trying to submit new features and buggy/uncompiled code. And for this service that he is performing everyone keeps slinging shit at him for not being polite.
Give me a fucking break!
Re: Let me see if i got it right...
you really think he cares enough about what other people think to have to make up excuses to have a rant? People seem to really have it in for him considering they know nothing about whats going on!
um you do realise that Chrome uses the Linux kernel...
I don't think he's in any danger of having to do a programming job any time soon and I doubt he would be interested in a suit and tie management role anyway.
Re: (ab)using a position of power
Do you really think that someone that created the kernel that is used in millions of machines around the world (data centers etc) is ever going to be out of work for long?
How many people have to put up with it? It's a mailing list for an open source project...
Re: I'm torn
The problem is that everyone is viewing his rants out of context.
Even the article that states "Torvalds tore into Sharp’s kernel boss" . He didn't actually tear into him. He tells him that he needs to stop letting people use him to commit code that they know shouldn't be committed.
His rants are always about experienced people doing things that they know damn well they shouldn't be doing.
Maybe its not the right way to deal with it but bloody hell people just love to jump up and down, I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry at the indignant rage that was spouted when he 'threatened' to kill peoples pet hamster that were submitted bloated features to what should be a fix-only kernel patch.
I guess the people here who are offended are the type to mark code stable that hasn't been compiled ;)
Re: @Peter - don't rub it too hard
ok, ill bite here
AND that Linux hasn't really innovated much since 64 bitness and multi-processors arrived - apart from bug fixes, support for new hardware and a bunch o' stuff under the hood that users neither see nor care about.</quote>
So what else do you want other than a stable, well supported system?
Especially as this is the kernel and not Linux itself. i.e stuff the user doesn't see until it breaks
Would you rather they spend all their time creating new icons instead.
Re: Insecure server makes it OK?
I don't think there was a 'hack' however.
It was a poorly coded page that allowed you to enter random ICCID's it returned the customers details.
Its not like they triggered a vulnerability in the web server that allowed them access to files on the server etc.
missing the point
Maybe i've been a bit spoilt in the companies that i've worked for recently but why the hell isn't personal information stored encrypted in the first place? Its really not that hard to setup and requires minimum overhead.
Aside from that I would still want to be notified if my personal data has been leaked regardless of its encryption state!
Re: Giving for free, whilst the Security Agencies have to dig for it
agreed In this case the line is crap unless there is a free mobile plan somewhere that I don't know about.
The problem is that this 'better service' will only be for those who are prepared to pay extra every month.
Fancy reading the news as it happens rather than in 4 hours when our network traffic dies down. That will be 10p per page thanks.
If the base price of the package dropped then maybe that could work however I think pink unicorns falling from the skies would be more likely.
Re: Baby steps
as i'm aware most isp's already do some level of blocking for certain sites.
I'm pretty sure it will soon be abused to get various non porn sites added, its just the way of things. Aus recently went through the same thing.
Re: Install updates
Agree in a perfect world...
However in a complex environment where you have hundreds of different systems/applications its not that simple.
It wasn't that long ago that a windows patch bluescreened a number of PCs, imagine that happening to your whole organisation.
Patches have to be tested and rolled out carefully to avoid bringing down critical systems.
Re: So. Linux then.
I'm interested as to how you get to "complete debacle"?
It was running behind schedule but thats about all I could find.
I was curious and so started to look for anything that could back that up. All I came across was a report by HP (disputed by Munich) that was paid for by Microsoft that Microsoft wont even release to back up its findings
Re: Micro USB charging
I would like to see induction charging on a watch.
My watch lives on my bedside table at night next to my phone. If I could just drop it on the charge panel with my phone that would mean it always gets charged.
Micro USB would be handy for the odd occasion that i'm not at home though.
Re: Nokia was right
except when Nokia was busy selling itself out the market was a lot different. There is a good chance that if Nokia had of combined Android with its expertise in making phones then they could at the very least be competitive with Samsung rather than a foot note.
Re: Is this a defence?
Interesting point however its not google associating Herr XXX with something nasty, its google reporting that other people are doing the associating.
If i tell my wife that a work colleague told me that his boss likes hairy dwarves and someone overhears am i liable for slander for reporting what someone else has said?
There could be an argument for slander charges against the bot net renter as they would be aware that they would be creating the association. Obviously that would be almost impossible to track.
Quality and return tracking could use some work.
I have 2 OCZ Agility 3 drives and I am pretty happy with them. I did however have to send one of them back after 2 weeks as after I wrote past 50% capacity of the drive it became non-readable.
Sent it back and it was replaced no questions asked which was fine however their defect/returns tracking web site constantly stated that they hadn't received the drive even though Royal Mail was telling me it was delivered over a week previously. Replacement drive just turned up one day and it has worked fine for the last 12 months
Re: Why Doesn't He Google It?
If you read the second to last paragraph you can see that's exactly what he is trying to do.
<quote>Vocal paralysis isn't a widespread condition, and there is a lack of case-study evidence for the condition. Page, therefore, is asking members of the public to contribute their experiences of the condition to the Voice Health Project.</quote>
Re: As a contractor...
I was in the same boat when I was contracting, I paid my taxes. I know colleagues that have massive daily tax deductions for lunch, transport, client drinks etc and pay very little tax every year.
I also know someone that was involved in a tax scheme that involved them being payed in rubles every quarter etc. They ended up getting audited and received a very nasty back tax payment request from HMRC that they almost lost their house over.
I used to view it as the more tax you pay the less likely HMRC would ever bother investigating; low hanging fruit and all.
Re: do not understand open source ... prefer not to be honest about it
if Open Source == fix your own bloody problems or hope to hell someone else does
Then Closed Source == hope to hell someone else does
Companies can provide open source software that you can download/install/use.
They still control the code for the project and provide fixes or features etc. If you don't like the pace/quality etc of the product then you can take the existing code base, fork it and run it as a community project if you wish.
OpenSource is not always a community of hippys doing things for the good of the IT world :)
As always disclaimer of use the best tool for the job applies :)
Re: Once again...
For the sake of clarity I should point out that the above post is in reply to Wardy1
Re: Once again...
Wow, way to reinforce my point of the view of OpenSource is a decade old!
to be honest I have no idea what your talking about.
I never said we created the corporate code, we use pre-existing projects as well as quite a few Apache products (many of them supported by RedHat directly)
How about having a browse of https://github.com/apache. All the code for various projects is there to download and use at your leisure.
We also use some open source identity management products that you can download the full source code directly from http://forgerock.org/openam.html. Its not on a public github server though so i'm not sure it stands up to your definition of OpenSource == Github !!!!
We are currently looking to migrate some of our Oracle database to PostgreSQL (I can't be bothered to pull the source links, you do it if you want to froth at the mouth some more)
Are you saying that if the source code for a project is not in github then its not opensource or that if there is a single proprietary component that talks to other open source components over standard communication channels then its not open source?
Yes you pay for support for each part, again wtf are you talking about?
I can agree that it means we have multiple support vendors for a solution as you put it. Its not currently caused us any problems but I could see that it may not be appealing to everyone.
Re: Once again...
only if you discount
A) the price
b) the lack of vendor lock in
c) the ability to download/compile/deploy the app ourselves from its source(we usually do that)
d) the ability to move support in house if we want to go to the effort.
e)no forced upgrade cycle (tired of raising a support ticket with IBM only to be told the bug is fixed in the next version and wont be ported back to the version we are using)
f)the ability and general availability of tools to allow you migrate your data to a different platform (related to point b i guess)
f) the ability to add features to the main codebase ourselves (granted, sometimes this does conflict with support agreements)
Its not always the right way to go. Its something you have to evaluate on its merits but drawing parallels from paid support on a freely available opensource product and closed source purchase/support is pretty tenuous
Two things with that statement.
a) it is correct currently but I suspect that it will change eventually. Baby steps to help them swallow the end goal and all that.
b) it is still a barrier to a newbie installing their first non MS distro. Its daunting enough to make that first step sometime without messages that intimate that your machine will be a spam infested, zombie bot by not running the latest Windows OS*
*Disclaimer: I haven't built a machine with UEFI so not sure of the message that pops up when you try and load a different OS.
lol flamebaiting aside, I love the irony in that statement!
Re: Once again...
I think a lot of people have a world view of opensource that is a decade old.
I'm my last 2 jobs I have architectured platforms that were open source that were worlds ahead of equivalent proprietary solution and that's not including RHEL that we use for all our servers.
I will add the disclaimer that I had a significant budget and was happy to pay for support contracts to go with the open source software.
Support for open source product X was about 3/4 the support cost of the proprietary software onto of the huge initial purchase price (don't even get me started on licencing confusion for load balancing VM clusters containing cpus with different thread counts and GHz)
If you simply go to sourceforge and download any random project and expect community support equivalent to what you get throwing lots of £££ around then you will probably be disappointed. However if you do your due diligence and select well established projects backed by companies that offer paid support you will generally come out on top.
Re: HTC One Black - no stock
well for me personally it was after buying the Desire Z for a premium price only to be told later that they wouldn't be updating the O/S even though it could physically support it.
There were also a couple of really annoying bugs with their sms and mail apps that I never received replies to etc.
It was a decent phone on day 1 but I will never buy from HTC again due to their post sale support.
Re: Not really anything to do with Linux....?
well a lot of it isn't. If a box pops up and asks if you want to install dodgy-package.msi and you click yes then it has nothing to do with Windows and more to do with the user.
Historically windows had so many infection vectors that could be exploited without any user interaction however that is, I believe, largely a thing of the past.
I have not said nor inferred otherwise so perhaps you perhaps you could actually think about what your saying before you hit the submit button in future?
Re: Come on El Reg
Android is a whole heap of fun, but its not a place to do business or put personal stuff aboard - but hey, everyone is doing it right!
There is all kinds of wrong with that statement. If you don't install random packages from dodgy warez sites and keep any sensitive details encrypted then you will be as safe as you ever can be with anything online.
If you want to have it made a little easier for you then you can go the walled garden Apple approach. If you want some flexibility/customization/usefulness then you go for Android.
Re: A Linux based OS with malware?
gaah, i don't wont to hear a whooosh but as I read it the malware wasn't in the app itself. I simply provides an advertising window within the app. Now this advertising window will then point at a nasty piece of code that the user will have to click on and install (assuming that they have third party package install allowed).
Not really anything to do with Linux.... ;)
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