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Wonderful news - at last!
At last we're getting to the point where the OS is irrelevant to 'normal' users. There's no need for the bloated full-size OS's for *most* people. Sure, if you're a 'power user' you'll need a full-function OS, but for the majority of people who do a bit of browsing, emailing, light duty apps, this'll do nicely.
It's so daft that MS have neglected this. With their lead in Wince, they could have something here. But no, they've done their usual stunt of ignoring it and hoping it'll go away to further the life of full-fat windows.
Apple needn't be too complacent here either. Although it's probably true that most Mac users are in the power-user category.
Good on HP.
Hope Apple follow soon
Apple still enable auto run on the Mac. They don't even have a temp disable key - hold down the shift key - like windows did.
The possibilities are endless...
Email to head of HR... "you're a useless fuckwit oxygen thief who wouldn't know a well thought through policy if it beat you with it's soggy end. According to an anonymous poster in an obscure forum.".
And then sue for unfair dismissal for following a direct order. What a way to resign:-)
Choice; chance to compare
At last it'll be possible to see equivalent fondle slabs to compare like with like. Will the WinSlab be any use; will it have any battery life; will the user interface work without a pen...? Then compare that with the AndroidSlab, maybe even the iPad.
I'm so looking forwards to Android and iOS developing out of the tablet arena and into desktop machines. For normal lightweight use, one just doesn't need the complexity of the big desktop operating systems. Sure, for 'power users', but not casual use that most 'puters are put to.
It's the apps that set the slabs apart from their bigger cousins.
What's a superbowl?
Is a superbowl something full of sugar, fat and other bad stuff that will eventually kill you from McBucks/PizzaKing? The parody that is the oversized people in a field attacking each other is enough.
Never used one; never even seen one!
Not only have I never used one, I've never even seen one being used. I would have thought that after 4 months I would have seen someone on a train, in the office, or even in a shop, but no.
Nothing wrong with looking at alternatives to the established iPhone & Android. Just wondering what Microsoft will botch up next given that they've had a decade to develop something new. Pity they chose to sit on their laurels - ooh, we're the market leader so lets not bother with this innovation malarkey.
OK, it's rather perverse, but I'm relishing in watching Microsoft's slow-speed train-wreck. I wonder how long it will be until there's a revolution in Microsoft and the tired leadership get ousted - I suppose we'll have to watch out for the MS web going down when Bill visits;-)
Back to the review...
Why was a phone that's not really exceptional and that is crippled with lack of memory and an infant operating system given a high score of 80%?
Your favourite zune marketplace is a sideshow to the main event; the phone itself. Not that it's relevant to people with a large collection of MP3 files.
As ever, you're missing the point that Windog7 is still a version 1 product that's missing all the basics and includes all the 1st generation bugs -- just where is the promised service pack??? Not to mention the availability of applications is rather limited in comparison with Android and iOS.
So in summary, buy a Windog for the zune marketplace. Hmm.
Sorry to tell you this...
All the telcos are as bad as each other. I've used three different ones this year on the same commute and they're all crap. Like Vodaphone who doesn't have 3G in Victoria Station, or Orange and O2 who don't cover the city of London -- the lights are on (signal) but there's no connectivity.
The only thing they are good at is extracting money from our wallets.
I want my money back
So if I had a 'temporary outage' of my payment, they'd be OK with that? What about money back for all the time it's not been available?
OK, naming names
I mean sites like caio, pricerunner, reevoo, etc. Whenever one looks for a particular model -- and particularly if it's rather obscure -- these sites always come up and add no value as they all show the same set of vendors with the same prices, few reviews if any...
In short they're a waste of characters in the Google result set. I've never really found them to be of any use, e.g. adding any value to a search.
Let me give you an example. I bought a telly over Christmas. The one I wanted -- from LG -- wasn't available, so I was looking for a Samsung. All of these sites came up with the same set of answers. None of them listed the company -- Comet -- which I found to be the cheapest. I hate to say this but, like the Direct Line adverts, price comparison sites don't always work.
Would be nice if I could 'blacklist' certain sites from my Google searches. There's a pile of useless spammy tech sites that just parrot original content - and badly too. But my top blocks would be those damn stupid 'comparison' sites that add no value and are of no use to anyone.
At the end of the day Google needs to get on top of this in order to stay on top.
Grounds to be counter-sued?
Given that the judge has expressed reservations, what's the chances of him being counter-sued for libel? E.g. making false accusations?
"This copy of windows is not genuine"
If you copy W7 it goes into lockdown mode, but this mode doesn't do anything save for whinge at you and change the desktop background. It allows updates and pretty much everything else.
This is MS's recommended strategy for training companies as they don't want 'live' corporate serial numbers to be used (apparently it's too easy for students to run an app to lift the serial number).
Kind of like MS tacitly accept piracy for exactly the reasons outlined in the article and they reserve the right to change this at a later date (they've got to wean people off of XP somehow:-O)
£4000 is an utterly eye-watering price
This is many times more expensive than it's direct competition. With 55" tellies due to become mainstream this year, prices will likely drop to a quarter of the price of this telly this year.
Goodness knows how Phillips make money as they're always difficult to get hold of and rarely competitive against the mass market competition, i.e. the far-Eastern mega-corporates.
I wouldn't say that. Sure, at the really techie end there's a definite lack of females, but IT isn't all tech. Move towards management or the business interface and it's pretty 50/50.
Pity that there's not more females interested in tech. It's a general societal issue where girls just don't seem to like "engineering" so shy away from it at a very early age. Maybe blokes don't care about being called geeky.
Shortage of staff = higher rates. Can't wait. It'll make a change from the "take a 10% cut or sod off" attitude that's recently prevailed.
But what price experience? So sick of listening to people who want an "expert" but are only prepared to pay for a junior.
Makes Apple's walled app-store garden look good
Always the biggest problem when adding 'smart' to a phone.
P2P is harder to monitor
Phones OTOH are very easy to monitor.
Wasn't it last year that GCHQ offered a 'reward' to any company that could demonstrate cracking P2P comms?
BT === tossers
What is it about BT that they want other people to do their bloody marketing. Years ago I had to go around the village to drum up support for Broadband. Now the scumbags are doing it again.
It's OK for the townies who always get the latest and best speeds. Try living outside of a major town and see what 100k BPS is like and with no chance of upgrade.
BT don't like the fact that they're required to lay the infrastructure but can't make a fortune from their monopoly: "why do we have to lay the infrastructure and then give it away to other providers".
There's sod all difference to providing Broadband than providing any other utility; water, sewage, electricity, (can't get gas out of town). Quite frankly it should be provided for, or at least driven by, the government.
Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the straps
Bit different to the normal patent modus operandi - loads of big (US) companies getting together for a chat and all agreeing to do nothing except keep new entrants out of the market.
Let's hope that 2011 is the year that software patents are finally abandoned. Fat hope of that happening.
Still, at least it gives the big boys something to do and provides some quantitive easing for the poor beleagured lawyers. Pity it ends up as 'gadget inflation' for the rest of us; a tech tax.
Why not pump the helium into compressed containers? It's well known that helium seeps out of just about anything, but if you were to compress it to a matter of 5 to one, you'd save on venting the stuff and be able to trim the height.
Another company that doesn't 'get it'
A bit of a consensus seems to be going on in these forums. Tablet form factors, as lead by the iPad, are great for some things and rubbish at others. The convenience of instant on, very long battery life, smallish (but not too small) and lightish. The breakthrough isn't the form factor, it's the operating system which is optimised for finger control, and applications optimised for this genre.
This machine looks as if it's a PC crammed into a tablet form factor:
- light weight;
- long battery life;
- high power.
Pick any two. Ye can't change the laws of physics captain.
The tablet operating systems, that's iOS and Android, are optimised for lower power processors, so there's no point in having high power unless you use a desktop operating system such as Windows which simply doesn't work on these form factors (no keyboard or mouse, limited battery, fiddly mouse-oriented UI, high power consumption interface, etc.).
Market differentiation in the tablet sector isn't going to come through higher power. In fact there's little that the hardware manufacturers can add to differentiate tablets at all. Differentiation's going to come through the operating system and application ecosystem and Apple's a formidable competitor with a massive lead.
How much evidence do they need to see this? Microsoft have been flogging this dead horse for years: more iPads are sold in a month than all previous Microsoft tablet sales put together -- that's since Windows 3.1 tablet edition through to the latest versions.
So, why bother when it's doomed?
How does one treat a "reformed" convict?
They've stood convicted by the court of web developers as disruptive serial recidivists who care little of the trail of damage they cause.
It'll take a bit more than a few repentant words to fix the mayhem they're directly responsible for.
They should burn in the fires of Hades.
I bought Office 2008 home/student which included Entourage (=Outlook) for £80 (which included 3 licences). The new Office 2011 home/student doesn't include Entourage, so you have to buy the full version for £180 (one licence). That's a 150% markup, or 450% if you count the three licences.
Currently Office 2003 Pro is going for £50 on amazon
Office 2010 (complete with different interface, space and time wasting ribbon, licencing issues, etc.) is going for £329.
Milk that cash cow. Moo. Moo.
Note to Microsoft: piracy is your problem, not ours.
What value did it have? Pirates don't upgrade.
But it's lovely to be a Microsoft customer, or thief as Microsoft call them. Arrogant bastards is what most of us think of Microsoft.
Is it churlish to suggest that Microsoft's prices are the main cause of their piracy 'problem'? One could point out that Office has more than doubled in price over the last few years and the only real effort MS have put into later versions is the licensing.
Reap what ye sow.
One rule for parents, one for everyone else
Can't we have a rule that states "Anyone with children should have filters installed". Given the importance of looking after the children (and their insufferable parents), the filters should be crowdsourced. So no mumsnet or daily mail to fuck with tiny little heads.
What's wrong with banning children from the internet anyway? They're not allowed in pubs, so why do we have to put up with their parents whining on about the internets - ban the lot of them and leave the rest of us alone.
Run windows in a VM. Never use it for browsing. Why bother using AV?
It's a standard risk assessment. Probability x Consequences. If you don't have kids, don't use Microsoft, don't surf dodgy sites, distrust all attachments, ensure you've regular backups, have the skill to deal with the consequences and have fallbacks... the risk is low enough to consider acceptable.
All depends upon your numptie quotient.
Don't think you've really 'got it'
The iPad isn't a replacement for your laptops.
It is a great device for certain things which beats a laptop hands down. For example, lightweight browsing is great in portrait mode. I wouldn't use it for research, but a general poke around the web is fine.
It's instant on with no effort, meaning that I think "I need to look that up", I grab it, it's instantly on, I look up the thing I wanted to know about. Compare that with a lappie; it's got to be opened, switched on (fast on a Mac, less so for windwos), placed on your lap (it's got limited places where it'll work), fire up the browser, search. For me, the iPad is just a lot easier for casual use.
It's form factor is massively better than a lappie in certain circumstances. On a train/plane/automobile. Standing up. Portrait mode is much better for reading. Laying on ones side whilst reading in bed. Landscape mode for more detail, typing and films. Lappies don't have orientation choice.
An iPad is rubbish at doing multi-tasking 'work' things such as taking notes whilst reading a document (it's single-tasking user interface won't allow that). It's rubbish for long typing sessions, although it's fine for email, etc. The limited functionality of the browser means you're not going to use it to develop websites, not view sources. The 'odd' layout of the keyboard gets on one's tit - lack of tab or cursor keys for editing.
I paid £730 for mine and am delighted with it being a great device to AUGMENT my large 17" lappie, particularly when commuting, watching the telly, reading in bed, etc. It ISN'T A REPLACEMENT for a lappie. This is probably where people who 'don't get it' go wrong.
The fact it was given to you means it has little value to you. Why not give it away to someone who would value it, or even drop it into a charity shop.
Struth, is that it?
Steve, Windows aint right on a tablet format machine. It didn't work with Windows 3.10, nor XP and it's not going to work for whatever your latest monster's called.
Oh yes, I remember, you're not good at listening.
iOS and Android aren't perfect, but they're a hell of a lot more optimised for diddy devices than a full-blown OS such as OSX^H^H^H Windows whatever Hence Apple have flogged more iPads in a few months than have ever been sold in nigh-on 20 years of windows for tablets..
I give up. You're not listening and you're late to market. Ye reaps what ye sows.
But then again, maybe a miracle awaits us.
Is dat because I is cack?
It's not about price, it's about quality
NTFS has extended attributes
Just a small point, but NTFS always has had extended attributes that can be used to stash metadata/whatever.
Maybe it's because iTunes on Windos needs to work on FAT as well as NTFS; just create a single code base that works on all file systems? If they exploited NTFS, they'd still need an alternative for FAT; conversely if the FAT version works on NTFS, why bother building for both?
Shirley this can't be so...
This means that the EU has done something good? Gosh that's hard to comprehend. There was me thinking the EU was faceless bureaucrats and pointless regulations leading to higher prices -- at least according to the right-wing nutters.
Here is proof that some markets need regulation lest it is left to shaft customers/users with aplomb.
Brightness control - iOS4.2
There's now a brightness control built into iOS 4.2: double-click the home button and scroll right to reveal the iTunes controls, volume and brightness.
Corner and edge protection
One of the main reasons to put the 'pad in a case is to protect it when the inevitable drop happens. A lot of these cases don't protect the corners or edges of the 'pad.
One of the benefits of the Apple case, which I still haven't replaced, is that it does the job of protecting the pad exceedingly well. It's also extremely convenient being thin, relatively unobtrusive and the little stand, whilst primitive, works very well.
What's worrying is that despite the iPad being out for 6 months plus, none of the folio case makers have really bettered the Apple case in terms of core functionality. Aesthetics maybe, but functionally not.
Upgraded both iPad and iPhon overnight - 650Mb download for the iPhone, 550Mb for the iPad. Now standing on a commuter train for an hour with no music as both devices are stuck "cancelling sync". Power cycling has no effect.
The fix apparently is to re-synch both. Not bloody possible whilst standing so no music for me:-(
Somewhat pissed off with Apple over this.
At least multi-tasking works at last.
Damn fail icon won't work on the iPad
Annoying network popup still there
The damn annoying "network disconnected" popup is still there. Designed by Microsoft, this popup is inevitable when your train journey includes three long tunnels.
Best strapline ever!
Now how do I get that tune out of my head?!?
Between the lines...
Are Goldman Sachs saying that they think Ballmer's got too much on his plate to handle all of the company?
No mention of all the enterprise departments flogging servers & services. Odd.
Filevault doesn't work
FileVault doesn't work with Time Machine.
Nothing more to add.
EVERYONE needs WDE
FileVault is a half-arsed solution that doesn't work with TimeMachine. It only encrypts the /users directory leaving all the system files and applications unencrypted.
Whole disc encryption means everything is encrypted all the time. No exceptions.
Who needs it; everyone who values their personal information. E.g. everyone. Anyone who carries other people's data around has a duty of care to protect it, for example your address book or email archive, or your client's information.
Laptop computers, particularly the shiny Macs, are prime targets for thieves. Just take a laptop bag into a pub in London and see how quickly it's stolen. WDE with a decent pass phrase and decent (different) logon password will render the laptop's data useless to all but the most determined or security services.
I struggle to understand how people don't get this simple fact.
BTW Symantec only recently bought PGP. There's only one other WDE system for a Mac which is owned by a company that's even less desirable than Symantec. TruCrypt WDE isn't available on the Mac.
How long to de/re crypt a drive?
Encryption of a whole-disc-encrypted hard drive takes ages. It took 7 hours for a 3GHz MBP 17" on a 500Gb 7200RPM drive when I did this a couple of weeks ago after a hard disc failure.
No doubt it's the same to decrypt?
I *have* to run PGP whole-disc-encryption as it's the only one available. Apple only supply a half-arsed solution, FileVault, which DOESN'T work with Time Machine. There's one other company that does WDE, but they're on my list of "I just don't trust them".
Pity -- or maybe just as well -- that TruCrypt doesn't work on the Mac for a bootable full-disc encryption solution.
A HUGE thankyou to TheRegister forum poster "uncertified-dba" who made everyone aware of this yesterday.
Pity there's no cover over the camera lens. As it sticks out, it gets covered in grime which somewhat affects it's performance. How strange!
Ok, I'll rise to the bait...
You're right, it's too easy to say something like Win Pho sucky sucky. But why is it so easy. Oh, it sucks that's why.
It lacks basic functionality. It's buggy. It's very much a first version.
Platform & hardware aren't relevant as it's a software package. If you don't like Win Dog, just install Android. I'm sure there'll be a hackintosh hacked version of iOS to install one day.
There's little available software. Certainly compared with the 300,000 apps available on the iPhone.
To top the lot The iTunes^H^H Zune software sucks on Macintosh - I've never got any Windos Vista II on me and never intend to.
You sure lurve your WinDog:-). Good. I'll stick to my iPhone & iPad (used to write this)
Sounds like a North Korean dynasty Win Mo handed down to Win Pho. What happened to Win Dog?
That's a huge issue for whole disc encryption users. Having just suffered from a disc failure, that would have been a real pain.
Here we go round the goldfish bowl, the goldfish bowl...
I'm enjoying, nay relishing, no I'm "really excited" that Microsoft have eaten crow pie and finally come up with something that will be a worthy opponent in the forthcoming great SmartPhone wars. This is a genuinely good thing. It'll even improve Apple and Google's products.
What can't be denied is that Microsoft has released something that's truly a version one product when the competition are on their 4th major version (iOS), or second major version (Android - or is it the third?). Microsoft have an enormous chasm to bridge, and given their recent lack of innovation their biggest challenges are internal.
That said, I'm sure there's some good things about WinDog (I like that name, so I'm going to use it from now on). But you have to accept that there's a shed load of rubbish things about it. Having read some of the better reviews -- that's the ones that aren't paid for by Microsoft's PR department or written by barking MS fanboi shills. They all say there's a load of issues, as is quite reasonable given it's only just been released. Give it three more years...
Zune maketplace - only £90/year. Oh do leave it out. I've never bought a single track from iTunes, so what would I want with another DRM infested shop. I buy CDs and rip them. Or I buy tracks directly from the artist.
You didn't mention Office on WinDog. Wot a larf that would be to edit a document using a microscope. Still, at least it's not wrapped up in a ribbon. But in any case, Microsoft always add Office to their DogOS's. I've a 10+ year old HP Journada running Whince with Office. I never used Office cos it was crap then and nothing's changed since. Of course, if it were ported to an iPad with a decent screen size, that would be an entirely different story...
Sharepoint: snake oil. I once attended a 4 day introduction to Sharepoint course. I walked away with the feeling I'd wasted 4 days of my life staring in a marketeer's porn flick.
The fact is I, in common with absolutely loads of other IT *professionals*, have turned our backs on Microsoft. They make shoddy products, have the morals of a stoat, milk their cash cow markets dry; I'm tired of being lied to and Microsoft wasting my and my client's time and money. I'm thinking of IE primarily, but years of shoddy Wince phones, unreliable Office products and >100,000++ viruses tend to be rather significant factors.
For years I observed Microsoft release a product, pretty much any product, saying it's "the best", "they're really excited", etc. and that the previous product wasn't much use, certainly compared with the current release. Look at Office 2011, or Vista, or Exchange. When you've swum around the goldfish bowl a few times you recognise the same old rubbish and that it's really good to skip a few releases. I'm sure you'll grow to recognise it eventually.
So what makes you so happy about WinDog? Do you work for them or something?
Yes but no but yes but what's it *really* like?
> Yes they are a little late
Wow, the master of understatement.
> doesn't that say something about how well Microsoft have done with this product?
No. Not until it's in general availability and 'real' people have 'real' experience using it. At the moment it's very much a version one product with huge numbers of features missing and the only people reporting are either paid to report or have vested interests.
We don't know how reliable it is (fanboi shill opinions don't count); what it's like to live with; how long the battery lasts; if the missing features are really painful to live without; if the 'new' features are of any real use; being Microsoft, how much it crashes... It's a long list.
Gawd blimey guvnor...
Or a Cockney using the parlance of London: dog & bone = phone. Happens to fit the moment as "Windows Phone 7" trips off the tongue about as elegantly as a kebab hits the pavement on a Saturday night.
Why would I want to use the software? I don't do Facebook, think twatter is a bore and I've as much motivation to use WinDog as I have to downgrade my iPhone 4 from version 4.1 to 1.0.
You MS philes really are a sensitive bunch aren't you.
BTW how does WinDog work with YouTube? Can it render H.264 video in the browser?
Only two phones available?
> HTC seems to be having some software problems with its pair of Windows Phone 7 handsets
That's why there's a shortage, I'm not surprised they sold their two handsets even with software problems. I'm sure that they could sell a few more than that to Microsoft employees, etc.
The iPhone sold in hundreds of thousands at launch, even when it was overpriced.
BTW, if the WinDog7 software turns out to be a, well, dog, can one just install Android?
Dell eating WinDog dog food
Competition's great. But in this case Dell have to eat their WinDog dog food; if they don't then who else would. What a minging phone though - I bet the employees are well miffed with handing in their dedicated and finely tuned crackberries for a house brick of a glorified Skype phone!
We don't have a pathological hatred of all things Microsoft. We do have years of suffering their bloody awful products and have wasted years of development time. So if it seems like we're anti, we're not it's just our enjoyment of watching Microsoft squirm as the ball is on the other foot for a change.
I doubt if we're going to see endless 'new' products from Microsoft simply because they've forgotten how to innovate.
Oh, I'm writing this on an iPad. Where's the Microsoft equivalent?
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