600 posts • joined 21 Mar 2009
Seems OK to me
I've done several recoveries using Time Machine and Lion without any problems. So it must be a specific set of circumstances that triggers the problem.
Re: initial impressions
I installed the preview to see what it was like and get some experience with Metro as I've never seen it before (like I've never seen a Windows phone in the flesh). I was hoping above hope that Microsoft would have learned from Apple's Lion experience and done something really special.
Alas no. It's a complete mess that's targeted at tablets regardless of whether or not you have a tablet. They've abjectly ignored the normal desktop, etc. etc. All the reasons outlined in the rest of this forum.
The good news it's a preview, so hopefully there's enough time for Microsoft to turn off the Metro and return the start menu to where most people will expect to find it.
Unfortunately the bad news is Microsoft is belligerent in the extreme and from past experience won't listen to their customers as their arrogance shines through. Ribbon? Internet bastard Explorer? Vista? Of course it really doesn't matter to Microsoft as they'll charge their fanbois twice, just like they did with Vista and the 'upgrade' to VII.
Personally I'd like to see some real competition for Apple. Alas it ain't coming from Microsoft, hence Apple's stock prices are going through the roof.
Whether or not you give a damn about this post, time will tell who's right.
Re: Paul Thurrott ... Windows Super Site
He gets paid to attract people to his blog. W8 a minute... the fanbois are swarming like flies round...
It's truly amazing to see how he thinks it's Gr8 despite the obvious problems which are so nicely highlighted here. Praise be for El Reg!
I suppose the next "upgrade" will be to ditch the qwerty keyboard for a numerical keypad.
Re: You forgot the oldest, active debate...
I trust that's vi as in 'vee' 'eye', not 'vie'
Re: Screen width
Oh the irony... Have you tried buying a 1920x1200 monitor? The idiot screen manufacturers want us to all use the 1920x1080 letterbox. A quick search of a coupld of hardware sites shows about 30 monitors using 1920 width, but of them only three use 1200 height.
Bloody fashionistas. Don't they ever do any real work?
Btw W8 (ohh, that's wait!) will be pretty crap on a projector running the standard XGA 1024x768.
Microsoft have eloped with the fairies.
Re: It's utter balls, and not the doggy kind....
<winkey>R still works.
It's horrible on a non-tablet device. I'm really disappointed with Apple^H^H^H Microsoft for their belligerent attempt to fit a square peg in a round hole. Everything is not a tablet and tablets aren't the answer to all problems.
First impressions after installing it today...
Downloaded it this afternoon as an ISO so I could install it in a VM on my Mac.
The installation was great. 10/10 for cleaning that up Microsoft. Well done.
It runs quite well, the main operating system's working in the way that all operating systems should, i.e. you don't notice them.
Now the problem. It's the User Interface. If you're not using a touch tablet, the gestures are completely inappropriate for a laptop/desktop machine. For instance the logon requires you to drag up a cover from the bottom. Sorry, it's naff on a desktop.
Where are the applications? There's a load of pre-loaded stuff in the start screen, most of which is inappropriate for work; games, music, etc. Apart from <winkey>R, I can't find any applications to run. Not notepad, nuffing. Microsoft have lost the Start menu and replaced it with... well, nothing I can see.
The applications are really weird too. I can't seem to work out how to get context menus up on things like the PDF viewer or IE. Just odd.
I know it's a first cut preview and accept they'll be changes. But this is not good at all. Someone with 30 odd years of experience of all sorts of Graphical User Interfaces and I'm left feeling like a total numptie. I've no idea how it works and I've never before been left feeling like this.
I'm particularly disappointed as I was really hoping that Microsoft would show Apple how it's done. Yes, honestly. Unfortunately, it's like Microsoft took the worst things of Lion and then raided the rejects bin. For a user with large screens, keyboard & mouse, the tablet interface is horrible. OSX Lion is not good when compared with previous versions (vis-a-vis Launch Control and Mission Control). Windows 8 just doesn't have that finesse and is very far from intuitive.
As a desktop operating system user interface it's a complete disaster. If Windows 8 gets released like this it will really flop in business.
Now, lets re-visit this posting in a few years to see what happens.
The offset keyboard is uncomfortable when using it on your lap as the lappie needs to be straight but your arms moved to the left whilst your head is twisted to the right.
It's a LOW res screen
900 in the vertical is a low resolution screen. Don't care about the horizontal resolution; it's vertical that counts.
What is it with these damn laptop manufacturers that make them always whitter on about bloody telly resolutions? A laptop is for WORK not watching telly you numskulls. Even powerpoint needs a lower aspect ratio. Then there's that poxy ribbon...
New Nokia WinPhone review
That was hilarious too; couldn't even keep its charge for a day.
Just imagine what the battery life will be like with a general purpose kernel with context switched drivers and application multi-tasking. Maybe they want to bring back the old Motorola brick for the battery, it's so retro it'll probably sell as a fashion accessory.
Proving the old adage...
Security. Ease of use. Low cost.
Pick any two.
Finally, my Firefox memory problems are solved...
I've been really fed up with the constant demands for greater memory that Firefox has. So finally I've solved it; installed 16Gb of RAM in the laptop. Lightweight my arse.
If Microsoft had their way there'd be one browser. Thankfully we have choice of several which are far better for the competition.
I, like you Grease Monkey, am fed up with Firefox's shenanigans. The problem with having only one version is there's nothing to differentiate a "real" update (that's a Major one in old money) with a "pseudo" update (wot we called a minor upgrade last year).
As a developer I'm particularly pissed off -- that's way more than mildly miffed -- at the constant issues with the addins. I absolutely have to have certain addins working; without them there's no point in using Firefox. Therefore I need to differentiate between a viable upgrade and, well, bollocks.
I particularly hate being used as some marketing gimp by Mozilla.
For me, there's no other browser which comes anywhere near Firefox for web development. I couldn't imagine what work would be like without Firebug, the Web Developer Toolbar, Life of Request, and the minor tools (which to be honest are available on Chrome) such as Measure It and Colorzilla. I morn for the excellent HTML Tidy which got hammered in one of the architectural changes.
If Firebug and the full Web Dev Toolbar were available on another browser (and not that MS shite which is Windwos VII only), I'd be out of here like a shot.
Gimp icon as I know my place.
At least we have choice in our browsers. Interesting that Safari's not mentioned:-)
Nope ^ 2
> "Yes, I assume all laptops will morph into a tablet or ultrabook form factor at some point."
Including all the larger screen laptops; the higher-resolution laptops; the high-performance laptops; the large storage laptops.... Nah, I doubt it.
The low end might morph into smaller, lighter, lower powered, lower resolution clones. But not *all* laptops by a very long shot.
The premium price is for a premium product
Compare like for like and Apple's products are very competitive and very often cheaper than their rivals. At this point I could go off to Sony and find an equivalent to the MacBook Air, but I'll pass as there won't be one made from a single piece of metal nor have I ever found Sony to beat Apple on price on a like-for-like basis.
And Sony laptops feel like cheap tat in comparison.
Apple must be bricking themselves...
Suddenly all manufacturers are going to be making lovely quality metal ultrabooks with high performance...
What's that Skippy: you think they'll all be pig ugly plastic pieces of cheapo crap running Windos?
For that kind of price it should include a whole load more features. There was me thinking about £100-£150. The EPG doesn't look that good either.
you're assuming that iOS will remain static. And WinPhOS hits its targets.
Interesting that the report assumes that WinPhOS' main rival is iOS and not Android. Seems odd as WinPhOS will end up being given away as MS chuck money at it; therefore taking market share from Android.
Yep, that'll be the case. WInPhOS will be given away, so takes market share. Should we flog this to Microsoft as a strategy?
On another graph, profit, iOS is shown as 80% with all the rest left in the noise.
In the beginning there was Yahoo (note without the !), around 1995. This was good, but Google was better.
Why go back to Yahoo! when it's full of advertising crap. Google was a paragon of peace in comparison. Even! Yahoo! written! in! a! sentence! gets! on! one's! tit!
Is this the file system to be "released in the Cairo** timescale"?
** Cairo, for younger readers, is the codename for Windows 2000. Microsoft pulled loads of features from Cairo including the file system.
IE9 is NOT a good browser
Try running the ACID3 tests (acid3.acidtests.org). You won't ever get 100% because it doesn't support all the standards that ALL other browsers support. For example background gradients, animations, etc.
And it's full of bugs - e.g. Peekaboo's back.
There's a difference between just "using" it and developing with/for it.
IE9's not that good either when compared with proper browsers -- that's pretty much any other browser.
Alas IE8/9 running in IE7 mode only emulates some of the endless bugs and features.
The only guaranteed way of ensuring IE7 compatibility is using IE7 on both XP and Vista (yes, I have come across some bugs that only occur on IE7/Vista and not IE7/XP).
Test [virtual] machines
Lets hope the myriad machines we use for testing these God-forsaken IE browsers aren't updated silently. There are some people who *need* to use older IE versions!
Dent xiao Gates?
The image springs to mind of the ageing Chinese leader Deng Xaioping smiling and clapping to an audience of thousands. Ok, anything to see the back of Monkey Boy, but it's a truly damming enditement of Microsoft's current state that this could even be considered.
Hobson's Choice; they've only themselves to blame.
No innovation required
At least Microsoft will be on home ground here; just copy Apple et al and let their size and marketing budget do the rest. Or at least that's probably what Monkey Boy is thinking.
Anything that avoids taking the lead in innovation.
Seems like Microsoft's biggest challenge is their so-called executive leaders.
That's the Twitter generation for you
A bit like the economic disaster we all knew was coming, the current trend for twittering passing as communication will also end in tears.
Damn, why did this reply add up to 140 charact
Be my friend...
Be my friend, my special friend, be my friend, like me, ooh please be my friend
For goodness sake, just grow up
The one good thing about El Reg is you can UnLike someone. What is it with the 'Mercans where they only have a 'like'.
£ = M c^2
Where M = mess
It's nice to see some natural justice in progress. Let's hope lightspeed's backers loose their shirts.
Hacking XML is *sooo* easy
So lets get this right; to customise the Ribbon(TM) in an Office application, you need to hack XML, or download and install a tool that's aimed at developers.
Hate to say this, but if you can't see everything wrong with that, you should stick to back-end programming and never go be let anywhere near a poor suffering user.
Ribbon; for the love of everything logical, why???
My personal experience with the ribbon is it's a waste of space, doesn't do what you want, requires considerably more effort to find something, is *not* customisable, and generally a barrier to productivity.
The 'heritage' interfaces had a minimal toolbar which was customisable enabling one to easily add commonly used features or even custom macros. They also have a context-sensitive menu on the right-click. The best thing is the multi-level menu which hides away, includes icons for those who don't read, and by its very nature encourages a clear hierarchy of functionality. Oh, and works with modern wide-screen formats which are very low resolution in the vertical.
The ribbon, in contrast, is a homogeneous mass of iconic pictures of fixed size and contrast which seriously slows people down when hunting for the right icon to click. The icons aren't particularly well organised and there's no clear separation of function. Not to mention including all the complete rubbish one never uses (e.g. table styles, etc., etc.).
The great thing about Office 2011 is you can turn the damn ribbon off and get back to some productivity. Praise be for Jobs insisting that all applications have a menu.
This will be a huge barrier to many in "up"grading to Windows 8++ and is a great reason to stick with XP; you know, the OS that "just works" (and doesn't have a whopping great WinSXS directory to clutter up your VM discs).
Goodbye Firefox, we're leaving you today...
Firefox is great, but for some reason the current planners are determined to commit hari kari by constantly tinkering with things that aren't broken, but as a result break the bits that work well -- the addins.
Every little update looses more people.
Someone's going to sort out the 'lounge computer'
The integration of video, audio, TV, games, computing, intarwebs, applications, and a whole host of other things must eventually happen. It's like it's 2007 all over again -- you remember those dark days before the iPhone changed the mobile space forever.
The existing systems are OK, but definitely not great - in a similar way as smartphones were pre-iPhone. Currently you need lots of different systems each with different look & feel and functionality, not to mention loads of remote controls.
Someone's going to end up owning this space and Apple's pretty well positioned to be the one.
Not sure I want an Apple telly though. I'd rather something of the size of a Mini-Mac with tuners, discs, cd/dvd/bluray player, networking, peripherals, etc.
Things I've learned 1: you gets whats yer pays for
I subscribed to the Grauniad on my Kindle but find that I prefer reading it on my iPad. As all content on my Kindle is synced to my iPad against my account it costs no extra, so I've continued with my subscriptions.
I never buy newspapers but have really enjoyed reading the content on my electronic devices. More importantly I've now learned that the point about paying for content is that the quality is massively better. A tenner a month for the newspapers is about right IMHO. Any more and I'd probably not bother.
I'm puzzled as to why £10/month isn't enough as surely the production and distribution costs of news paper is astronomic when compared with digital distribution.
What is the world coming to?
My first -- and last -- visit to Groupon was as a result of this article.
I despair that they think they're valued at this amount. Endless tat in no particular order; demands for one's email address... A business plan in search of idiots.
I obviously don't get it.
What's that Skippy...?
> Microsoft reports the take-up of Office 2010 is the fastest for a software product in the company’s history.
What's that Skippy? You can smell bullshit?
What do Microsoft & Nokia think?
One would expect that Microsoft and Nokia dream of selling this number of phones in total, not just in one day!
Maybe in a couple or three years they'll catch up. Or maybe not.
Lewis didn't write this...
One hopes that Lewis read this article - it has some substance and basis in fact not supposition.
How could Microsoft possibly bash Chrome? They have created the absolute worst browsers ever thrown together in the known universe!
Oh, they're still looking for a clue.
OK, here's one. Write your operating systems in a way that doesn't need AV software.
Tablets != Laptops
How many times must this be said: tablet devices - fondleslabs - are not the same as Laptop computers. This blindingly obvious fact is still completely missed by many PC manufacturers.
A tablet device does not run Windows. It's very much the sort of device that Apple have produced; a stand-alone device with few if any peripherals.
Interestingly Apple seem to have pitched the price and product absolutely right. All the others need to beat this. Given that they can't improve the product -- such is the standard that Apple have set -- then they must improve the price. As Apple have years of experience of building high-tech high-volume consumer devices, the iPod, the PC manufacturers are indeed batting on a sticky wicket.
On the plus side...
Whilst the numerous worms did some damage, they did have the effect of teaching Microsoft about security. Prior to that time, security was very much an add-on optional extra.
Following the outbreak ISTR Gartner came off the fence and recommended that nobody implement IIS. This stung MIcrosoft so badly that they pulled Longhorn (which was probably going to be called XP Server) and had a root & branch code review, sending all their developers on security courses.
Ten years on, servers and workstations are far more secure by default. Security onfiguration is turned on it's head where you have to have knowledge to turn it off, not as it used to be where you need to be an expert to turn it on.
So maybe the authors of Nimda were being cruel to be kind?
That's what Apple did with their applications when creating a 'universal' binary.
Tablet != desktop
Oh, of course... You mean that there's no difference between a tablet-centric app and a desktop application for use with a mouse, keyboard, large screen and unlimited CPU power.
Not to mention fat fingers and handheld UI optimisation.
Do you really hate your customers - or 'users' as you would refer to them?
Two disparate operating systems
Windows 8 - two operating systems that share the same name. Sure, there'll be some code sharing, but the kernels will be quite different to support the fundamentally different requirements of a tablet (diet Windows) and the full-fat bloat of the desktop.
Dyson are great innovators and inventors but they're let down by poor engineering and manufacturing design. Various examples spring to mind that can be summed up as plasticky tat.
And the hand-driers are deafeningly loud and high pitched. Goodness knows how noisy these heaters would be.
Build your own cool box?
Put the ignition system into a tube or box, then wrap that in dry ice (-78C). Allow to cool. Take outside and play:-)
BTW, what's the price of one of these rocket motors?
Tablets != desktops...
Microsoft have tried running the Windows interface on tablets and IT DID NOT WORK. Not even with a pen interface to allow pixel accuracy mouse pointer resolution.
Apple proved that tablets are more smartphone like than desktop like and built a dedicated iOS to run it. Apple are also proving, with Lion, that desktops are not tablets -- some of their changes are completely maddening when tablet techniques are implemented on a desktop (e.g. Launch Control, Mission Control, intrusive animated page scrolling, daft full-screen operation, cheesy application changes in Mail and iCal...).
You need two interfaces. One interface for tablet mode when you've fat fingers, no keyboard and portrait layout. You need another interface for the desktop when you have fixed widescreen layout, mouse, no touch capabilities, a decent keyboard and possibly multiple monitors.
Microsoft are stating the bleeding obvious; APPLICATIONS BUILT FOR ONE PLATFORM WON'T WORK ON THE OTHER. Or at the very least they'll be very sub-optimal as user interfaces and even to the level operating system support with CPU capacity as battery life matters when in tablet mode.
Therefore just cut the cord: Windows applications simply don't exist in the tablet space, so it's a clean slate for them to start with.
Tablets represent a long-term structural change in the personal computing space. Microsoft, with their excellent development environment (there's simply no comparing iOS' Objective C with Microsoft's Dot Net) are in a very strong position if they can only get their act together.
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