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Tablet OS != Desktop OS
A tablet operating system needs to work with touch screens using big fingers. It also must eek out battery life to beyond a day. Windows 7 - or any 'desktop' OS for that matter - is optimised for mouse input and consumes lots of power.
Even an infinite amount of bluster from Balmer can't change the laws of physics. Microsoft will have to create two completely different operating systems. They may be branded Windows 8, but they will be different in every way.
Just run that past us again please - we missed your point...
Oh, you mean Microsoft are failing as they don't have products that people want and their brand is waaayyyy from kewel.
You can't be talking about Apple; the iPad created the tablet market: prior to which there was no such market sector (don't even think about mentioning the Windos keyboardless PC things that have no battery life, aren't optimised for tactile manipulation, are heavy, look revolting and are totally undesirable). Apple can't make enough of the iPads to satisfy worldwide demand.
They've produced a solid update in the iPad 2 which doesn't alienate the iPad 1 owners whilst making it an improvement on existing tech. Not a bad achievement really.
What exactly was your augment? For the evidence doesn't seem to support your assertions.
And what exactly has that got to do with the price of tea in China?
It's clearly not a problem for the 15+ million purchasers of the iPad thus far. Certainly never been an issue for me.
Actually I wouldn't want a wide screen display as this means that it's less useful in portrait mode -- by far the most common orientation for reading, emailing and browsing. In fact of the hundreds of hours of use I've put my iPad, I think I've probably watched less than 10 hours of films/vids.
OLED's still not practical for this size of screen and very expensive (you'd whinge at that too). With 64Mb, there's plenty of space and synching with my main machine isn't at all onerous.
> "executive-class" machine that's "designed for the high-security requirements of mobile enterprise computing."
If an "executive" doesn't know the difference between an "iPad" style machine and a "laptop" then they wouldn't know the difference between a 'Slate' and an Etch-a-Sketch.
Tablets are very different from laptops, not least the finger-friendly input and single-tasking user interface. Anyone who's attempted to use an iPad for writing a document or creating a presentation would know this.
Microsoft are always slow
The biggest problem with Microsoft browsers has always been their damnable intransigence to seldom update and fix bugs.
It's clear they're still slow in upgrading which doesn't bode well for the unfortunate web development community at always has to clear up their mess.
@Jim 'troll' Morrow
Cookies aren't evil; they're a necessary workaround to the limitations of HTTP. It's possible to code around using cookies in some circumstances, e.g. RESTful URLs, but this doesn't always work and can be a significant security risk.
There's two types of cookies: session and persistant. Session cookies only last as long as the browsers left open and are generally vital for any application that stores state, e.g. Logon. Session cookies are really important for most modern applications.
Persistant cookies are the ones that get misused buy the advertising community. These hang around for ages - years- and allow advertisers to re-connect your browsing history on the site.
Browser manufacturers should have a setting that limits the maximum age of a persistent cookie to, say, 7 days.
Money to burn?
> I'll pick up a few Nokia shares
Yep, they'll be dirt cheap and will continue to fall.
What an odd and risky strategy for a CEO: wiping out any added value in a stroke and reducing a venerable company to a box shifter.
Wonder what the next shareholder meeting will be like -- odds are that Elop will be out on his arse.
Living with it is a different matter
I've used Roberts kit for years and there's always problems. The predecessor unit I have in the bedroom is quirky to say the least.
The touch front panel doesn't work; one needs to use the remote to control it. The screen is too bright but when dimmed to minimum can't be read in the dark as there's insufficient contrast. Blue is the wrong colour; red would be better at night. The snooze control works on all functions; adjust the volume and it switches off. The remote control's UI is unintuitive and needs to be learned. IPhones interfere with loud clicks & bangs. The radio alarm doesn't specify the channel; go to sleep listening to Radio3 and go through the channel changing rigmarole (snooze, etc.) to change to Radio4 in the morning. It's a bit unreliable and needs occasional rebooting (disconnecting) to reset.
In short lots of niggles.
On the good side, it's a brilliant high quality sound that belies it's size. Much much much better than anything else on the market. It looks great. It's solidly built. The functionality is great.
Would I buy another? Without hesitation as he positives far outweigh the negatives. But it still doesn't excuse the considerable annoyances.
Open sourcers = amateurs
Is open source better? Not necessarily as closed sourced software is, by definition, developed by professionals trying to scratch a living out of the success of their toils. Open sourcers are working ostensibly for fun.
Real innovation occurs when your life depends upon it. Hence 300k+ iOS apps.
Wonderful news - at last!
At last we're getting to the point where the OS is irrelevant to 'normal' users. There's no need for the bloated full-size OS's for *most* people. Sure, if you're a 'power user' you'll need a full-function OS, but for the majority of people who do a bit of browsing, emailing, light duty apps, this'll do nicely.
It's so daft that MS have neglected this. With their lead in Wince, they could have something here. But no, they've done their usual stunt of ignoring it and hoping it'll go away to further the life of full-fat windows.
Apple needn't be too complacent here either. Although it's probably true that most Mac users are in the power-user category.
Good on HP.
The possibilities are endless...
Email to head of HR... "you're a useless fuckwit oxygen thief who wouldn't know a well thought through policy if it beat you with it's soggy end. According to an anonymous poster in an obscure forum.".
And then sue for unfair dismissal for following a direct order. What a way to resign:-)
Choice; chance to compare
At last it'll be possible to see equivalent fondle slabs to compare like with like. Will the WinSlab be any use; will it have any battery life; will the user interface work without a pen...? Then compare that with the AndroidSlab, maybe even the iPad.
I'm so looking forwards to Android and iOS developing out of the tablet arena and into desktop machines. For normal lightweight use, one just doesn't need the complexity of the big desktop operating systems. Sure, for 'power users', but not casual use that most 'puters are put to.
It's the apps that set the slabs apart from their bigger cousins.
What's a superbowl?
Is a superbowl something full of sugar, fat and other bad stuff that will eventually kill you from McBucks/PizzaKing? The parody that is the oversized people in a field attacking each other is enough.
Never used one; never even seen one!
Not only have I never used one, I've never even seen one being used. I would have thought that after 4 months I would have seen someone on a train, in the office, or even in a shop, but no.
Nothing wrong with looking at alternatives to the established iPhone & Android. Just wondering what Microsoft will botch up next given that they've had a decade to develop something new. Pity they chose to sit on their laurels - ooh, we're the market leader so lets not bother with this innovation malarkey.
OK, it's rather perverse, but I'm relishing in watching Microsoft's slow-speed train-wreck. I wonder how long it will be until there's a revolution in Microsoft and the tired leadership get ousted - I suppose we'll have to watch out for the MS web going down when Bill visits;-)
Back to the review...
Why was a phone that's not really exceptional and that is crippled with lack of memory and an infant operating system given a high score of 80%?
Your favourite zune marketplace is a sideshow to the main event; the phone itself. Not that it's relevant to people with a large collection of MP3 files.
As ever, you're missing the point that Windog7 is still a version 1 product that's missing all the basics and includes all the 1st generation bugs -- just where is the promised service pack??? Not to mention the availability of applications is rather limited in comparison with Android and iOS.
So in summary, buy a Windog for the zune marketplace. Hmm.
Sorry to tell you this...
All the telcos are as bad as each other. I've used three different ones this year on the same commute and they're all crap. Like Vodaphone who doesn't have 3G in Victoria Station, or Orange and O2 who don't cover the city of London -- the lights are on (signal) but there's no connectivity.
The only thing they are good at is extracting money from our wallets.
OK, naming names
I mean sites like caio, pricerunner, reevoo, etc. Whenever one looks for a particular model -- and particularly if it's rather obscure -- these sites always come up and add no value as they all show the same set of vendors with the same prices, few reviews if any...
In short they're a waste of characters in the Google result set. I've never really found them to be of any use, e.g. adding any value to a search.
Let me give you an example. I bought a telly over Christmas. The one I wanted -- from LG -- wasn't available, so I was looking for a Samsung. All of these sites came up with the same set of answers. None of them listed the company -- Comet -- which I found to be the cheapest. I hate to say this but, like the Direct Line adverts, price comparison sites don't always work.
Would be nice if I could 'blacklist' certain sites from my Google searches. There's a pile of useless spammy tech sites that just parrot original content - and badly too. But my top blocks would be those damn stupid 'comparison' sites that add no value and are of no use to anyone.
At the end of the day Google needs to get on top of this in order to stay on top.
"This copy of windows is not genuine"
If you copy W7 it goes into lockdown mode, but this mode doesn't do anything save for whinge at you and change the desktop background. It allows updates and pretty much everything else.
This is MS's recommended strategy for training companies as they don't want 'live' corporate serial numbers to be used (apparently it's too easy for students to run an app to lift the serial number).
Kind of like MS tacitly accept piracy for exactly the reasons outlined in the article and they reserve the right to change this at a later date (they've got to wean people off of XP somehow:-O)
£4000 is an utterly eye-watering price
This is many times more expensive than it's direct competition. With 55" tellies due to become mainstream this year, prices will likely drop to a quarter of the price of this telly this year.
Goodness knows how Phillips make money as they're always difficult to get hold of and rarely competitive against the mass market competition, i.e. the far-Eastern mega-corporates.
I wouldn't say that. Sure, at the really techie end there's a definite lack of females, but IT isn't all tech. Move towards management or the business interface and it's pretty 50/50.
Pity that there's not more females interested in tech. It's a general societal issue where girls just don't seem to like "engineering" so shy away from it at a very early age. Maybe blokes don't care about being called geeky.
Shortage of staff = higher rates. Can't wait. It'll make a change from the "take a 10% cut or sod off" attitude that's recently prevailed.
But what price experience? So sick of listening to people who want an "expert" but are only prepared to pay for a junior.
P2P is harder to monitor
Phones OTOH are very easy to monitor.
Wasn't it last year that GCHQ offered a 'reward' to any company that could demonstrate cracking P2P comms?
BT === tossers
What is it about BT that they want other people to do their bloody marketing. Years ago I had to go around the village to drum up support for Broadband. Now the scumbags are doing it again.
It's OK for the townies who always get the latest and best speeds. Try living outside of a major town and see what 100k BPS is like and with no chance of upgrade.
BT don't like the fact that they're required to lay the infrastructure but can't make a fortune from their monopoly: "why do we have to lay the infrastructure and then give it away to other providers".
There's sod all difference to providing Broadband than providing any other utility; water, sewage, electricity, (can't get gas out of town). Quite frankly it should be provided for, or at least driven by, the government.
Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the straps
Bit different to the normal patent modus operandi - loads of big (US) companies getting together for a chat and all agreeing to do nothing except keep new entrants out of the market.
Let's hope that 2011 is the year that software patents are finally abandoned. Fat hope of that happening.
Still, at least it gives the big boys something to do and provides some quantitive easing for the poor beleagured lawyers. Pity it ends up as 'gadget inflation' for the rest of us; a tech tax.
Why not pump the helium into compressed containers? It's well known that helium seeps out of just about anything, but if you were to compress it to a matter of 5 to one, you'd save on venting the stuff and be able to trim the height.
Another company that doesn't 'get it'
A bit of a consensus seems to be going on in these forums. Tablet form factors, as lead by the iPad, are great for some things and rubbish at others. The convenience of instant on, very long battery life, smallish (but not too small) and lightish. The breakthrough isn't the form factor, it's the operating system which is optimised for finger control, and applications optimised for this genre.
This machine looks as if it's a PC crammed into a tablet form factor:
- light weight;
- long battery life;
- high power.
Pick any two. Ye can't change the laws of physics captain.
The tablet operating systems, that's iOS and Android, are optimised for lower power processors, so there's no point in having high power unless you use a desktop operating system such as Windows which simply doesn't work on these form factors (no keyboard or mouse, limited battery, fiddly mouse-oriented UI, high power consumption interface, etc.).
Market differentiation in the tablet sector isn't going to come through higher power. In fact there's little that the hardware manufacturers can add to differentiate tablets at all. Differentiation's going to come through the operating system and application ecosystem and Apple's a formidable competitor with a massive lead.
How much evidence do they need to see this? Microsoft have been flogging this dead horse for years: more iPads are sold in a month than all previous Microsoft tablet sales put together -- that's since Windows 3.1 tablet edition through to the latest versions.
So, why bother when it's doomed?
How does one treat a "reformed" convict?
They've stood convicted by the court of web developers as disruptive serial recidivists who care little of the trail of damage they cause.
It'll take a bit more than a few repentant words to fix the mayhem they're directly responsible for.
They should burn in the fires of Hades.
I bought Office 2008 home/student which included Entourage (=Outlook) for £80 (which included 3 licences). The new Office 2011 home/student doesn't include Entourage, so you have to buy the full version for £180 (one licence). That's a 150% markup, or 450% if you count the three licences.
Currently Office 2003 Pro is going for £50 on amazon
Office 2010 (complete with different interface, space and time wasting ribbon, licencing issues, etc.) is going for £329.
Milk that cash cow. Moo. Moo.
One rule for parents, one for everyone else
Can't we have a rule that states "Anyone with children should have filters installed". Given the importance of looking after the children (and their insufferable parents), the filters should be crowdsourced. So no mumsnet or daily mail to fuck with tiny little heads.
What's wrong with banning children from the internet anyway? They're not allowed in pubs, so why do we have to put up with their parents whining on about the internets - ban the lot of them and leave the rest of us alone.
Run windows in a VM. Never use it for browsing. Why bother using AV?
It's a standard risk assessment. Probability x Consequences. If you don't have kids, don't use Microsoft, don't surf dodgy sites, distrust all attachments, ensure you've regular backups, have the skill to deal with the consequences and have fallbacks... the risk is low enough to consider acceptable.
All depends upon your numptie quotient.
Note to Microsoft: piracy is your problem, not ours.
What value did it have? Pirates don't upgrade.
But it's lovely to be a Microsoft customer, or thief as Microsoft call them. Arrogant bastards is what most of us think of Microsoft.
Is it churlish to suggest that Microsoft's prices are the main cause of their piracy 'problem'? One could point out that Office has more than doubled in price over the last few years and the only real effort MS have put into later versions is the licensing.
Reap what ye sow.
Don't think you've really 'got it'
The iPad isn't a replacement for your laptops.
It is a great device for certain things which beats a laptop hands down. For example, lightweight browsing is great in portrait mode. I wouldn't use it for research, but a general poke around the web is fine.
It's instant on with no effort, meaning that I think "I need to look that up", I grab it, it's instantly on, I look up the thing I wanted to know about. Compare that with a lappie; it's got to be opened, switched on (fast on a Mac, less so for windwos), placed on your lap (it's got limited places where it'll work), fire up the browser, search. For me, the iPad is just a lot easier for casual use.
It's form factor is massively better than a lappie in certain circumstances. On a train/plane/automobile. Standing up. Portrait mode is much better for reading. Laying on ones side whilst reading in bed. Landscape mode for more detail, typing and films. Lappies don't have orientation choice.
An iPad is rubbish at doing multi-tasking 'work' things such as taking notes whilst reading a document (it's single-tasking user interface won't allow that). It's rubbish for long typing sessions, although it's fine for email, etc. The limited functionality of the browser means you're not going to use it to develop websites, not view sources. The 'odd' layout of the keyboard gets on one's tit - lack of tab or cursor keys for editing.
I paid £730 for mine and am delighted with it being a great device to AUGMENT my large 17" lappie, particularly when commuting, watching the telly, reading in bed, etc. It ISN'T A REPLACEMENT for a lappie. This is probably where people who 'don't get it' go wrong.
The fact it was given to you means it has little value to you. Why not give it away to someone who would value it, or even drop it into a charity shop.
Struth, is that it?
Steve, Windows aint right on a tablet format machine. It didn't work with Windows 3.10, nor XP and it's not going to work for whatever your latest monster's called.
Oh yes, I remember, you're not good at listening.
iOS and Android aren't perfect, but they're a hell of a lot more optimised for diddy devices than a full-blown OS such as OSX^H^H^H Windows whatever Hence Apple have flogged more iPads in a few months than have ever been sold in nigh-on 20 years of windows for tablets..
I give up. You're not listening and you're late to market. Ye reaps what ye sows.
But then again, maybe a miracle awaits us.
NTFS has extended attributes
Just a small point, but NTFS always has had extended attributes that can be used to stash metadata/whatever.
Maybe it's because iTunes on Windos needs to work on FAT as well as NTFS; just create a single code base that works on all file systems? If they exploited NTFS, they'd still need an alternative for FAT; conversely if the FAT version works on NTFS, why bother building for both?
Shirley this can't be so...
This means that the EU has done something good? Gosh that's hard to comprehend. There was me thinking the EU was faceless bureaucrats and pointless regulations leading to higher prices -- at least according to the right-wing nutters.
Here is proof that some markets need regulation lest it is left to shaft customers/users with aplomb.
Corner and edge protection
One of the main reasons to put the 'pad in a case is to protect it when the inevitable drop happens. A lot of these cases don't protect the corners or edges of the 'pad.
One of the benefits of the Apple case, which I still haven't replaced, is that it does the job of protecting the pad exceedingly well. It's also extremely convenient being thin, relatively unobtrusive and the little stand, whilst primitive, works very well.
What's worrying is that despite the iPad being out for 6 months plus, none of the folio case makers have really bettered the Apple case in terms of core functionality. Aesthetics maybe, but functionally not.
Upgraded both iPad and iPhon overnight - 650Mb download for the iPhone, 550Mb for the iPad. Now standing on a commuter train for an hour with no music as both devices are stuck "cancelling sync". Power cycling has no effect.
The fix apparently is to re-synch both. Not bloody possible whilst standing so no music for me:-(
Somewhat pissed off with Apple over this.
At least multi-tasking works at last.
Damn fail icon won't work on the iPad
Best strapline ever!
Now how do I get that tune out of my head?!?
Between the lines...
Are Goldman Sachs saying that they think Ballmer's got too much on his plate to handle all of the company?
No mention of all the enterprise departments flogging servers & services. Odd.