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Nein, nein, nein
If IE Nein doesn't suffer from this vuln, then at least they've finally written some new code.
I expect it's related to the scripting built into CSS that's proprietary to IE. If it's quirks mode then IE Nein will also suffer as it ships with no fewer than four parsing engines for backwards incompatibility with their browsers formerly known as "great" or "best ever", but now on the scrap-heap.
This can be blamed on Ballmer too
1995-1997 - beat those bastards at Netscape by ignoring standards
1997-2000 - write our own "standards" and build several substandard browsers
2000-2005 - created a substandard browser that proper fucked the web and held back development
2005-2008 - created a substandard browser that proper fucked the web and held back development
2008-2010 - created a mediocre browser that didn't support HTML5
2010 - built a browser that's nearly, but not quite, as good as all the others
Why, Google, Why?
Microsoft chose to only make IE9 available at the enormous cost of upgrading** and it just ain't worth it.
Just install XP with any modern browser and remove access to IE6. Job done.
Why should a business building and selling spod rods and gangel pins be interested in filling Microsoft's coffers? It's Microsoft's business to extract more money by obsoleting IT, a job which they do extremely well. It's the gangel pin manufacturer's business to sell more spod rods and keep costs low.
If XP was good enough 8 years ago, it's good enough for now.
** Costs include: training, planning, migration, hardware, software, testing, support, personnel, infrastructure updates... Not migrating includes costs such as: [none of the above].
Senheiser glow-in-the-dark cans
The've got a pathetic blue light on them that can't be turned off AFAICT.
Turned it from a 10/10 to 0/10 for me as soon as I realised that.
1) MS just haven't potted their *beta* IE9 to XP yet and will do it later.
2) Their code is so shit that it needs hardware acceleration - unlike all other browsers.
3) A MS marketing tard fantasises that people will move to VII just to use IE9
The fact is that rubbish browsers from Microsoft generates huge wealth for the web development community. Sure, it's a right ball-ache to code for, but that's why the punters pay us so much. Let's celebrate that IE9 won't be generally available to the vast majority of MS customers for years hence.
Nay, 'orses for courses
Sorry, but you've missed the point. An iPad isn't a replacement for a lappie, even a small one.
It's an entirely different device aimed at different uses. Reading in bed, on the bog, standing on the train, watching the telly. Sure you could use a lappie but it's not the same.
Take, for example, this morning. I checked my email on my iPhone whilst waiting for the train, realised I needed to write a few paragraph reply. I got on the train and pulled out the iPad to write the answer whilst listening to some music. Did so and sent the message as it's always on network is transparent to use. Then decided to do some paid work so as the train wasnt too full, I brought out the 17" Macbook Pro to update a course I wrote using PowerPoint, Word and various Windos virtual machines; you need a machine with real grunt for that along with a decent keyboard and mouse.
Why carry both? Simply that the client whose site I'm working at needs me to do some design work which isn't possible on their lousy machines. Hence the Mac. So I billed twice today because I used my time wisely.
Each computer is different and optimised accordingly.
Lack of cursor keys
Spot on with that observation; it's amazing how useful cursor keys are and how annoying it is to use the point and magnify facility for typing. Doubly so if you're using a RDP emulator to connect to a server/whatever.
The lack of an an 'apostrophe' where God intended it to be by the return key is also annoying.
But, it has to be said that it's (yet another hit of the return key where the apostrophe should be) a great device for when you are travelling really light. I took mine on holiday just to do lightweight emailing & browsing; terrific for that.
I actually find typing - with the exception of the aforesaid apostrophe - really quite a good experience.
I reckon we need a keyboard application so we can customise the layouts or have special keyboards with four rows for editing.
Will be so much better with the forthcoming OS upgrade.
Take away general purpose computers
Surely this is the strongest argument for taking away general purpose computers from numpties and giving them a locked down device where they simply can't do any harm. Like an iPad.
I don't understand how Windows allowed an executable .scr that's from an external source. Doesn't it pop up a window? I thought outlook classified executables such as .scr's as non functional and prevented them from even running. Oh, of course, it's IE to blame.
It's still 150% more expensive
You're right; Microsoft have finally added PST import into their fourth version of Office for the Mac. About bloody time. I admit I was wrong and apologise for misleading anyone.
To quote from Amazon.co.uk about the £104 Office 2011 3 user: "Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student 2011 includes Word for Mac, PowerPoint for Mac, Excel for Mac and Messenger for Mac."
No mention of Outlook. I've seen this elsewhere but can't find the reference. BTW Messenger is a free download.
Office 2008 Home & Student 3 user - which includes Outlook^H^H^H^HEntourage - currently sells for £70)
Also from Amazon.co.uk, "Office for Mac, Home and Business Edition, 2011" includes Outlook and sells for £177.
Office 2008 Business edition (AFAIKS the only difference between the versions is an Exchange connector) is listed at £322. This also lists the free remote desktop connection application as included.
So, like for like, most people will need to pay an £177 - that's an additional 150% or £107 -- for the equivalent version of Office 2011.
Again, I'll restate that Office 2008 is actually quite a good application so there's no point in upgrading, especially as 2011 include the damnable screen-space wasting ribbon.
Gouge the punters for me Steve...
It appears that this is a lightweight, superficial update to something that works perfectly well thank you very much. It adds a few new features but there's nothing that's compelling enough to dig out large piles of money for the upgrade.
It's still missing critical features: Entourage^H^H^H^H^H Outlook still cannot import PST files. You will need to shell out for a third party product for that.
Pricing is interesting; up from that charged for Office 2008 (currently selling for around £70) to £190 for Office 2011 Business Edition as they DON'T include Outlook in the base version.
Mac users have the choice of using the built-in OSX Mail and Calendar applications and are quite pre-disposed to using other suites - iWork (£60), or OpenOffice (free). It's going to be a hard sell for Microsoft.
Maybe their pricing strategy is based upon the average Mac user being more affluent than PC users? Affluent maybe, but not stupid.
I use my copy of Office 2008 daily and really like Entourage. I sure as hell won't be upgrading as there's no point, certainly not at those prices. And where's the iPad version?
Certain demographics only?
That only applies to certain demographics. Like those with Facebook accounts and of those, the ones who actively take part in their network.
In short, mostly younger people.
Statistics, damned statistics and lies. Probably propagated by the FaceBook PR company. Again.
Citation please. Base data too.
Hope it fixes 3G performance
Ever since installing iOS4 on my 3G it's run like a dog and is borderline unusable.
Could this be a sneaky way of getting people to upgrade to the iPhone 4? If so, it was obviously planned in Job's secret island whilst stroking his white cat. Not sure I want to upgrade now my arm's been twisted.
How I wish I could downgrade to iPhone OS version 3.1 as iOS4 offers very little to 3G users, certainly not multi-tasking.
Pondered these for ages and finally got the chance to listen to them at the Apple Temple to Tech. Hundreds of yoofs filling the store. Put these on my head, plugged in my iPhone and.... like entering a different world. Now had them for three months and have never regretted buying them.
The attenuation of external noise is superb. Train journeys are a pleasure. The sound quality sublime. The comfort, like an old pair of slippers.
But it's the quality that just can't be understated. Cannot be compared with the plastic tat from the likes of Bose, et al. Like getting into a Bentley in a car park full of blinged up todger-mobiles.
Not to be underestimated, the box opening experience is one to rival Apple. Superb, and one that reinforces your decision to spend money on decent head gear.
And then there's the natty soft quilted case with magnetic flap to store them in once you've finished.
Only criticisms are they're heavier than their plastic counterparts. Not that heavy, but you do notice them after a day. They're also not particularly comfy when hung around your neck, such as when you slide them off your head to speak to someone.
I just don't get the point of this gadget. I've never bought music or videos from iTunes and won't be starting any time soon. Not least because the network and bandwidth is lousy and unreliable.
But most of all because I just don't get 'rental'. If I download something, I want to keep it and play it on any of my devices be that a Mac, iTelly or car stereo when I want and as many times as I want.
Calling it an Apple TV just seems a misnomer. More like Apple iTunes portal with added DRM. Surely it should also be free or next-to-nothing as without downloading from Apple, it's pretty limited.
Surely an Apple TV device worthy of the name would record from air a-la Freeview box; play assorted format files; allow purchasing and streaming from iTunes; rip DVDs & CDs; run apps from iTunes; have huge storage; networking abilities... In short it's a Telly-centric iPad plus extras. Hey, a Mac Mini with Elgato device.
That sure as hell isn't going to happen as it does too much for too few bars of latinum that Jobs loves to covet.
Definite miss for this device.
Phones in secure locations
You aren't allowed to take phones into secure sites/locations. Makes no difference if theyre with or without camera.
The meta tag is necessary to stop (L)users from setting their IE8 into IE7 mode (or idiot IT departments setting a policy). IE8 has two engines; the ok but nothing special IE8 engine, and the bug-ridden IE7 engine for "incompatibility" mode to render shite, broken websites the same as IE7.
Properly coded website *may* be incorrectly rendered by IE8 in IE7 mode so you *have* to use the meta tag to ensure your site works.
Will this poxy nightmare continue? I can hardly be arsed to bother downloading the beta as we all know it'll be the same old shit that Redmond always turns out.
Kids will be kids?
So, you put a button on a page that says "in case of emergency, click here" or wotever. How many kids could not resist that? About 200? How many were journos? How about friends of SeeOp?
Can we have audited clickthrough figures please.
They're only developing the 'interesting' stuff and not focussing on the important but boring suff such as re-writing the broken printer engine. There's loads of bugs outstanding for years that remains unfixed because it's percieved as dull.
Dull and important. No, lets play with the toys.
Go Apple go!
> only applying them when the company has "adobe" in its name is hardly fair.
Oh yes it is.
Adobe are a menace to the web with more security exploits per application than even Microsoft; total absence of standards compliance; creators of more unaccessible sites than FrontPage; and a bunch of rip-off merchants to boot.
Bring back Madame La Guillotine
The problem with crushing is that you have to kill the hard disc. If they dumped computers into the crusher there's a chance that the hard disc may well escape.
The only way is to remove a hard disc and literally fold it in half. Dropping a heavy spike on it, a-la guillotine, right in it's spindle chuff would proper fuck it. Or an oxy-acetylene torch. Or a disc cutter. Or even a 10lb sledge hammer. Ooh, torturing hard discs, what a great job.
It's surprising that there aren't mobile disc breaking services like there are for paper shredding. Tenner a disc?
Fantasic news for... web developers:-)
Oh yes as the dog says.
For years we'll need to create TWO websites; one for the HTML5/CSS3 compliant browsers, the other for IE6, IE7, IE8, i.e. Microsoft's legacy.
I wonder where this is leading? Will it a) hold back adoption of HTML5/CSS3, or b) lead to a two-tier interwebs.
Certainly going to be challenging for the laggard IT departments who still consider a 'browser' to be just for looking at thar intarwebs and not delivering mission critical applications. The ones who see this as a fantastic opportunity to move the corporate forwards will be well rewarded.
But, IE9 only works on Windows VII. So what's the choice for upgrading if you're going to stick with XP... oh yes, use a non-Microsoft browser.
Microsoft are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Shweet, they've only themselves to blame:-)
There's a choice of three. All different. Lumping them all together is negligent.
OSX "upgrade" version
The OSX Snow Leopard upgrade version is a full version. It's licence may not be, but the software is.
Mac users have always bought a licence - when they bought their original Mac.
Some Mac users run lots of windwos
On this here Mac, I've over a dozen virtual machines for testing various windows and browser configurations.
Therefore only 7% of my Mac is running OSX, compared to the 93% of Windows operating systems running.
Can I have a house-point for getting this statistics malarkey?
Isn't that a free download? Did they forget to include Remote Access or SlitherLite into the package as they're also free downloads.
No idea who would want messenger anyway - there's plenty of better IM clients available.
Yo, you's the spinmeister Monkey Boy dude.
That's TWICE the price of office 2008. That came with Entourage==Outlook for about £90. Now it doesn't.
To top that, there's sod all benefit for upgrading. Office 2008 works just fine and 2011 provides very little in the way of substance. It ain't werf it at half (I.e. a quarter) of that price.
Spinning lying money grabbing bastards.
IE6 should die
Developing 'simple' intranet sites using IE6 is fine. However, the world has moved on and we're now developing 'applications' as opposed to static web pages. Getting these kind of pages to work with IE6 is difficult bordering on impossible -- pushing costs up massively.
There's a cost to developing with IE6. I'd argue that cost is far greater than the cost of upgrading.
When will those donkeys who do "IT Strategy" for the government realise that sticking to IE6 isn't an option.
It is not just a browser, it's the delivery mechanism for all applications. With ever-increasing applications being written that are web-based, e.g. nobody builds thick clients these days, it's getting nigh-on impossible to develop for IE6.
The root cause is Microsoft's pathetic attempt to integrate the browser into the operating system as their response to the browser wars of the nineties. This means that any attempt to co-exist browser versions isn't supported.
Government's best bet is to install an alternative browser; Firefox or Chrome. Both will be better for security. Whilst they're at it, dump Microsoft Office and sanction Google Docs (run on secure private servers).
Fluff and no fixes?
All this tosh about the UI when there's a ton of really serious bugs that have been outstanding for years to do with printing. Sure, not exciting, but it's a right PITA to fix. For instance if you use fieldsets properly, it won't print beyond the first page. Similarly if there's any overflow set.
Also 505747, 508498, 129941
Why does everyone get so excited about a new lick of paint when the damn foundations aren't up to the job?
Just need a pen option
Sounds like a great idea; should be able to place the mouse pad in front of the keyboard, between your arms, so should be easy to use. It'll be nice as it's larger than a normal pad, so the gestures should be a doddle to use. Just imagine using Omnigraffle (that's like, but better, than Visio for the Windows oiks) and manipulating objects; rotating, resizing, etc. Thus far, it's not possible to do that on a normal desk unless you're using the Macbook; if you've a remote keyboard, forget it.
I can't help but think that it'll be a great device if you could use some form of pen/wand, a-la Wacom tablet. Then you have all the benefits; use it as a normal touch-pad mouse and creatively for those times where a pen is mightier than the finger.
For those who rate Apple's mice by the smeg-awful puck thing from 10 years ago; the Magic Mouse is just about the best mouse I've ever used. The scrolling is amazing and it's really comfy to use for hours at a time. It scrolls vertically and horizontally and does a bunch of other gestures such as 'back'. It's rarely wrong with right-clicking, unlike it's Mighty Mouse predecessor and it's umpteen orders of magnitude better than the aforementioned phuck.
And the advertisers...
Don't they flog jam rags & pile cream during the breaks?
UK gov ASAP
This is just the ticket for typical UK government use and would save an absolute fortune as the Microsoft Office monopoly crumbles. It would mean that the existing machines won't need updating just to run the latest version of Office and might result in a better choice of browser.
Come on ToryDems, grow some gonads and save some real money
This 59p iPad/iPhone application is a Webkit browser that INCLUDES Adblock and various other useful features.
Zuckerberg spins more tosh than Tony B-liar
It's nowhere near half a billion. How many accounts are dormant? You can't get off the bloody thing once you've signed up.
And how many accounts are for fictitious 'people'. The only account I've ever created is for a start.
Lies, damn lies and browser statistics
There's no doubt that Firefox was the developer's favourite and that anyone using IE by choice can hardly be considered sane enough to be called a web developer. But there's no getting away from the fact that Chrome's an excellent development tool. Now with add-ons, Chrome's only missing the excellent Firebug and developer tool maturity of Firefox.
Microsoft only have Ballmer to blame for this. It was he who disbanded the IE development team leaving IE to stagnate -- screwing millions of web developers in the process.
It's such fun to watch Microsoft finally take a thoroughly deserved beating.
Keypresses - IE Skype addin?
Loosing keypresses - check that the Skype addin on IE isn't causing grief. This was the problem on a client's machine recently - and I took the blame prior to this.
The law's open to everyone?
"The council said it would seek to recover £50,000 in legal costs from Djanogly."
Brilliant; attempt to resort to the law and loose your shirt. That's what Robert Maxwell used to do to intimidate people.
Have you tried Objective C
Objective C is about as challenging as learning Chinese and the code makes about the same sense too.
OTOH developing in web-based technologies for simple applications is quite trivial and any half-decent HTML / JS / CSS coder can do this. Turning a website into an application makes a lot of sense; just look at the sorts of things the eBay or Amazon application did.
Of course, developing in normal languages is well beneath the hyper-intelligent mega-being's tool of choice: Obfuscative C.
CC:mail and MSMail connectors from donkey's years ago. Maybe also like the public folders vs. newsgroup connnectors...
Given that Facebook is similar to email, it makes sense to use an email client to access it.
But for whom? Corporates? SMEs? Maybe of some limited use in the corporate.
Lot of effort to go to though.
Interesting that 'classic' ASP is still going strong.
One of the frustrations with ASP.NET is the constant restarting of the application whenever a new DLL is loaded - this plays havoc with user's session state if you're daft enough to use the out-of-the-box state management. All this makes it difficult to scale applications without a lot of release management effort.
The reason the Somalis have so much shipping to choose from is so much has to go through the Suez Canal.
An airship can go from A to B, OK, from A to B navigating around troublesome countries.
Thus the Somalis et al can go back to banging rocks together and trying to figure out a way of evolving into a amicable society.
Where's the Java-based sites?
Java's very popular for application development, particularly in SOA stacks. Strange that this tech wasn't found in your research.
Too much style, not enough substance
I bought the app. Thought it was OK, albeit a bit thin and not enough detail -- I'd like a little more meat on the bone as it were. Yeah, a lot like a typical glossy mag which has more style than substance.
I won't be buying another copy unless it's a lot better. I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment.
"LeBlanc grumbled that the assertion of the Financial Times (which wrote the report) that “Windows is known for being vulnerable to attacks by hackers and more susceptible to computer viruses than other operating system” could not be supported by the facts."
Come on Microsoft, if you're so certain the FT are wrong then sue. Then we can all look forwards to finding out who the liars are.
In a week or two we'll tell you
It's so exciting waiting for next Friday to have a play with the new precious. Pity I'm away for the weekend, but I digress...
In a couple of weeks El Reg could do a survey of iPad owners and produce some primary research for a change:-)
Me, I'm looking forwards to putting it to use on the daily commute. I think it'll be just the job for this, particularly when standing up (can't use a netbook for that).
Bedside radio use
Doesn't look as if it'll be much cop as a bedside radio. For a start the display colour is wrong - need amber or red. Also one wonders how well you could see the clock at night.
The display's a bit old-school blocky LCD, especially when compared with an iPod/Phone in the dock.
Strange that manufacturers don't make something for this market.
You're counting a Blackberry as a smartphone?
This discussion is about Flash usage. The Blackberry has a lousy web browser and effectively isn't much cop for surfing. Similarly the Windows mobile internet exploder thingie.
It would be a lot better if you sub-divided "smartphones" into them that browse (iPhone, Android), and those that don't.
Using that, Apple have a much greater proportion of smartphone browsing devices.
So, you had one duff G3 iBook, circa 2000, and therefore everything subsequent from Apple is broken.
Sounds more like religion than logic.
For what it's worth (about three fifths of nothing), I've had a lot of Apple kit since 2005 and it's all been fine; nothing has broken. So as I've had 4 lappies and 2 iPhones, to your 1 broken machine, that makes it a 6 to 1 failure rate. Not bad really. Is this Maffs or Stastistics?
Keyboard backlight brightness
You'll be wanting the F5 and F6 keys to raise and lower the brightness.
Why share the "info" in the first place?
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