1865 posts • joined 26 Jan 2009
Re: Operating Systems should be free
> Paying $200 or more for an operating system is insane. Especially for one with a desktop for kinky gardeners.
The real cost is more like $90. Just get an OEM copy. These are pretty trivial to find.
Only a total rube would buy the "consumer boxed version".
Re: But slowly – over time - and maybe not...........
> Great - and have ~ ten times as many security patches to evaluate
Don't be an idiot. It's Unix. It will chug along happily until you decide it needs to be changed. Since it's not a festering pile to begin with, you can forgo the updates if your Windows experiences have made you afraid of them.
Same goes for a Mac really.
If you are a real business user and not just some poser, your real problem with be "support". What obscure vertical market apps do you need and what platforms do those run on? The current version of monopolyware might not be supported yet.
Re: But slowly – over time - and maybe not...........
> 3 Using the original discs, clean install Win XP in VBox
Personally I like this idea. Although I am not sure how noob friendly it is. Running an entirely other OS in a VM may also be too much for your XP era hardware to handle.
Re: 'if you're stuck using proprietary drivers'
> It depends on your graphics hardware, of course - some open source drivers work exceptionally well. And with the SteamOS announcement, this should become the norm rather than the exception.
Gabe doesn't care about political purity in device drivers. He cares about performance.
If anything, Nvidia is in the drivers seat here because they have the best combination of silicon and drivers available for Linux. Anything involving Intel is a total non-starter regardless of platform. The hardware just isn't up to the job. AMD also has a chance to influence things because their hardware is not a joke.
Until AMD can provide a superior result (under Linux), Gabe will just follow Nvidia's lead.
Re: @ Pete 2 - Reversing Moore's Law
The right tool for the job.
The things that I use most often are front and center in my UI. There's is no need to go searching for them. FORCING me to use a search interface for common tasks is less efficient and less easy.
The problem with Unity and other interfaces like it is that it sabotages my ability to keep the most relevant stuff handy.
Re: Prior Art
> If properly applied, the concept of "prior art" would destroy many large companies like Apple, Microsoft and Google because they simply commercialize ideas that other people
Improving an invention does not require hijacking that invention and effectively stealing it from those that actually invented it.
In 2013, one simply doesn't need a 20 year monopoly in order to make money off of a better mousetrap. The entire market moves much too fast. Progress happens far too quickly and an invention may become obsolete before anyone successfully clones it.
> Then I discovered the US version of Netflix and realised half the films I've ripped are already there, often in HD
Your DVD rip is still probably better quality.
The features of your PC video player probably trumps whatever Netflix player you're using.
Your DVD rip is playable on just about anything including platforms that Netflix doesn't support.
Playing your local copy doesn't require any sort of external network and doesn't consume your 3G or your home Internet bandwidth cap.
Any task is going to be harder if you procrastinate until you have a huge mountain of work.
Re: You must rip those CD's.
> You must rip those CD's.
> It's the closest you'll ever get to "sticking it to the man".
It's your own personal property. How is it in any way shape or form "sticking it to the man"?
...it's funny you should mention this.
> Reminds me of 10 years ago when I started uni. I remember 2 people I lived with -
> The end result though, was that at some stage, they both "lost" some of their music. The guy who'd ripped everything ended up needing to delete some, because back then a 20 Gb laptop hard drive was fairly big.
It's funny you should mention this because the hard drive in my laptop 10 years ago was 100G.
Although for real "portability" I wrote my collection to CD/DVD.
20G was NOT a big laptop drive 10 years ago.
The Manhattan blues...
> The real problem with CDs is the space they require for storage...
Not really. Not unless you live in some place like Manhattan where real estate is priced by the square centimeter rather than by the acre.
CDs are not large and need not take up any more space than the media itself, especially if you don't have to keep the media in any sort of "ready to use" setup.
Re: grip on Linux does a nice job
> The interval between "feed" and "feed in next one" is too short to fill with any useful activity, but long enough to be very boring.
The interval can be as long as you like. You don't need to chain yourself to the desk during this process.
The computer is more than capable of going about it's business without you. Let it.
Re: grip on Linux does a nice job
Ripping CDs is easy. There was as perfectly n00b friendly ripper (ripperX) on Linux back in the dawn of days. This is not and never has never been a hard problem.
It's just data. There's no DRM or DMCA hurdles involved. Anyone and their mother's cat is free to create a suitable and LEGAL CD ripping program.
DVDs and BDs are a little more interesting because of the DMCA but still not rocket surgery.
Re: Well yes... I guess
> Boxee et al want us to think that listening to MP3s requires turning the whole loft into an always-on datacentre.
Keep the PC on. Share your files using that thing that moves the "big letter I" around the screen. Done.
Not rocket surgery, even if you are using the NAS approach.
> 'Cause I'd prefer to have something that ate less Juice then my PC.
Chances are this will be something that any one of us could build for ourselves. It will be made out of industry standard PC parts that can be replicated at Frys or your regional equivalent. It will be very much like a Mac in this respect. The only real difference will be the bundled combination and the size of the package.
I would be surprised if it's very far off from being a smaller version of the Zareason Mediabox I already have.
Re: This is really stupid
> So Valve have decided to bring out a Linux microconsole. Except that there won't even be a standard hardware spec.
If this is running on Linux then this hardware will likely be driven to a pretty predictable configuration actually.
Re: Watching with interest
> That's totally untrue. For a start 90% of the extra power is used for prettier graphics only,
Nope. The extra CPU can also be used for more interesting AI. This means larger maps and more sophisticated NPCs and more NPCs. So even a low horsepower type strategy game will get dumbed down on a console.
Re: iDIOTS Operating System
AirPlay is just a proprietary mirroring format.
Comparing it to DLNA is like comparing an Apple to a Banana.
DLNA by itself tries to do all of the heavy lifting that is not addressed by AirPlay at all. The functionality of DLNA is addressed by various "apps". That includes playing more than just one subset of one particular video or audio format.
You're also crowing about needing such a thing to get past the fact that device you are streaming to is unecessarily crippled. Otherwise AirPlay would be a moot point. You could just run Plex directly.
It's "apps" that are superior to DLNA.
Re: Would LOVE to see how "vanilla" Android 4.3 fares!
>> "It would fair better, but stock Android is quite like iOS in it's simplicity."
> Well it's an iOS copy after all.
In other words, a copy of the Windows 3.1 program manager with the keyboard ripped away and only one mouse button.
Re: I use both extensively
I find the "full of crap" line to be pure bullsh*t. An S3 no more crappified than an iPhone is. It's not at all anything like a PC full of shovelware.
On the other hand, even a technical rube can do things with an S3 that make it completely unrecognizable. They can do this without any help or prodding from the "technical elites". The sight of a phone in that condition is a little humbling actually.
Re: so does that mean
>> "Samsung is still more portable than any Air"
> And my Dad could beat your dad in a fight. Tit.
I bought my first "Ultrabook" in 2001 and it was made by Sony.
Re: so does that mean
> OS X has had virtual desktops since v10.5, i.e. 2007.
Kind of sort of... after a fashion, using a user interface that's more cumbersome than something that a Linux user might have been using in 1994.
MacOS has virtual desktops in much the same way that Windows does. Crude and kludgey and not necessarily what a Unix user would expect.
It's like saying that a burned out hulk of a Ferrari without an engine is good to go. It's true that it's a Ferrari and you can kind of push it around to where you want to go but it's not usually what people have in mind when they think of having a Ferrari.
Re: so does that mean
> Er, just because something is simpler doesn't mean it's not as good for technical people.
How does Apple manage to be "simpler"?
They do that by reducing what the user sees, giving them fewer options. A labyrinth of networking options become a single dialog box. On the one hand it's easy. On the other hand, you're SOL if the option you need isn't presented.
> That's a pretty glaring logical fallacy. Witness OS X. Preferred simultaneously by the least and most technical people I know.
Were you trying to be ironic? You certainly did a great job of it.
What Apple did was screw over it's loyal users by forcing a switch that didn't really need to happen.
They also dumped SCSI? Was that a "proprietary" port too?
That's kind of like the problem with Thunderbolt. If you are lucky enough to have kit new enough to have a TB port, you can't use any of that new gear to connect to anything else. That includes Macs as well as PCs. Having a PCIe slot doesn't matter either as you can't get a TB interface on one of those.
Apple is great at forcing ugly, expensive, and unecessary transitions.
> And even today millions of professional users use FIrewire
I rather doubt you are in any position to talk for those people. You're just another fanboy repeating someone else's marketing propaganda. You also seem really butthurt that Apple's annointed standard was completely displaced by USB as far as any normal person can tell.
Re: Apples and Oranges
> SCSI was meant to connect data-processing equipment like harddisks, printers, scanners and so on via high speed connections
The catch there is that "high speed" in this case is from the perspective of someone in the 1970s.
My USB devices run circles around any of the SCSI2 devices I ever had to deal with.
> There is a data aspect of USB, but that is just as hard as SCSI to get reliable.
You're on crack.
I wouldn't even go that far. Apple isn't a luxury brand really. They're just a PC brand with a little bit of extra "polish". There's some wood veneer and perhaps some leather upholstery over the same parts that everyone else uses.
Apple is much more like Lincoln. That's a slightly tweaked Ford.
Re: WANTED: iOS Desk
> Not sure if you are trolling, but Samsung already have. Its the SUR40 and runs Windows.
That's the thing about things not Apple. If you've imagined it, chances are there's someone out there already making and a whole community of enthusiasts that will declare you late to the party.
Re: I've ordered a 5C
> Or, to put it another way: "I buy, guided by plain ignorance and prejudice
Neither product is really that exclusive despite fanboy cries to the contrary. It's not that hard to have solid experience with either. Apple phones are just as subsidized as Androids. They aren't any more expensive. BMWs can be test driven or rented.
Both are consumer brands with an inflated sense of self-importance.
Both are like Cleveland.
> they all aspire to own an iPhone, iPad and Mac Book.
I dumped my iPhone for a Samsung phone.
So did the missus. She also dumped her iPad for a Samsung tablet.
Macs neither impressed either one of us.
Re: I've ordered a 5C
> Look at the iOS vs Android usage / web figures
It sounds like Android users are actually interested in a PHONE.
A smartphone buyer actually wanting a PHONE. Imagine that?
It must really blow your mind.
Total loss of control.
The moment you put something offsite, you immediately lose control of it. It's like the proverbial bank safety deposit box. The media makes these things out as secure and protected and they're not. A bank will give you up just as readily as an American Internet company.
At least in the US, you still retain privacy rights to your stuff so long as it remains in your possession. The moment you let it leave your control, all of this "you need a warrant" stuff evaporates.
Plus there's the usual trust issues of letting someone else manage your stuff.
The only reason Windows ever works "out of the box" is that it's installed that way by some hardware vendor.
Getting any n00b to install ANY OS on their own is going to be a problem.
Although Linux will be dramatically easier despite all of the Lemming protestations to the contrary.
The only easy Windows install is the special single-use one that your hardware vendor gives you with your new PC (if you're lucky).
Re: I bet a lot more people would switch if...
I have an Linux production box running an NTFS volume.
The idea that Linux doesn't support NTFS is just outdated nonsense.
Re: Change screen resolution in ubuntu
MythBuntu? Really? A novelty fork intended for a single narrow use case?
I see people whining all the time in general forums about how hard it is to make Windows into an appliance and how this makes the Windows equivalent of MythTV unsuitable for the unwashed masses.
Been in IT for decades and it never occured to you to revert? Really?
Although it sounds like a combination of lame (for MythTV) video card and bad driver version due to Canonical being dipsh*ts. Hard to tell really in the near total absence of any useful information.
Re: Nice idea, but...(perhaps try Win7 instead of XP??)
> Honestly the number of complaints about difficulty installing XP just make me laugh. Win 7 finds everything you can throw at it,
No it doesn't. Been there done that.
You're just repeating the same old tired propaganda.
"They got it right this time. Really they did."
Re: Nice idea, but...
A Windows style installer is nothing more than a crude script that spews files everywhere. It does this because there is no sense of process control on Windows due to it's heritage as a single user system. It may have the appearance of being easier because it doesn't really do anything except in the most crude fashion possible.
You just push the shiny button and hope for the best.
Although sometimes even this isn't even good enough as Windows software still has dependencies.
Linux package management automates and centralizes everything. Even if you do stray off the reservation, chances are the package manager will be able to rescue you.
Re: Nice idea, but... X marks the spot.
The video card issue may very well be a genuine support issue given the age of the hardware. I would not be at all surprised if the proprietary BLOB driver doesn't include support for that card anymore.
Although I would be surprised if the libre driver dropped support.
These people might not be able to run Win7 either for similar reasons.
Re: Object: It's not just about storing stuff...
Anything that displaces the conventional file system is likely to require that same displaced file system under the covers. It may be invisible, embedded in some highly proprietary storage layer. However, sooner or later something is going to have to address it in conventional terms. That might even be the end user or admin. Less abstract elements of systems don't suddenly go away when a better abstraction is found.
A file name (or something like it) will likely continue to remain the most efficient path to an object regardless.
Re: "the guesswork of capacity planning is eliminated"
> I can see you missed the point of
Adding more capacity on a whim? From the likes of EMC? For only the cost of a single employee?
Surely you've never actually had any experience with this sort of thing.
Re: Format war
What war? In order for there to be a war, there needs to be 2 armies on the battlefield.
I only see one.
Sure, you hear a lot about the other guys but you never really see them.
I can get USB3 gear without seeking it out. It's just there. It's all around you and even if you don't seek it out, you may find that you've bought it already. TB is something you have to specifically go out of your way to try and find. You can't bolt it onto an old system (like you can with USB3). Even if you try to buy an entirely new system to get this stuff there are still fewer devices and vendors to choose from.
This right here, us in the peanut gallery, we're the only thing resembling a "war" on this matter.
If you think there's an actual format war going on then you're just a stupid fanboy.
Re: Blah blah blah -@AC 14:24
> I've visited the US and they don't have my fingerprints.
Do they do this in the non-US citzen line? I just got back from a trip to Europe and I don't recall seeing any mechanism or apparatus where they could/would get your fingerprints.
Re: Blah blah blah -@AC 14:24
> You missed the bit where Apple said
I have a bridge to sell you.
Re: Local Storage vs Cloud
You whine about the slowness of WIFI and USB2 and then declare that local storage is silly.
That's such obvious nonsense.
You have just demonstrated the reason why local storage is better. If wired connections are too slow then wireless ones certainly will be. That's not even getting into the problems of reliability and availability. Then add in bandwidth caps and international roaming.
Re: Like Henry Ford said....
> This drive is a very fast horse in a world of Model T flash storage.
...which reminds me of a Tom Selleck western where some jack*ss in an early auto gets himself stuck in the mud. Tom's horse has no problem with the mud and gallops off triumphantly into the sunset.
Re: One really has to ask
Most consumers are stupid and need someone to lead them around by the nose. If some well advertised company doesn't offer a product, then it doesn't exist. This is the case with beefy media players. The rubes don't see the potential of a 500G tablet so they don't demand it from Apple. They are content to be force fed whatever the guy living in the castle on the hill wants to give them.
A fat Archos is great because you can load it up once and largely forget about it.
The problem with underequipped media devices is that you always need to futz with them. You have to constantly decide what you do or don't want on them. UIs don't impact this problem.
You sound like someone declaring "but I don't need access to my whole music collection".
Re: The arrogance!
That is classic American fundie/neocon rhetoric right there. Their inability to oppress me is somehow violating their fundemental liberties.
It's MY speech that we're talking about here. It's not Verizon's. Verizon wants to interfere with MY speech. That's THEIR idea of "free speech".
Re: Switching from big iron to x86 virtualisation
> But there are no high end SMP Linux servers for sale and has never been,
The largest SMP server was a Linux server sold by SGI.
Also, large workloads may very well do better with some form of clustering which marginalizes the sort of large NUMA box you seem to be fixating on. This applies equally well to commercial Unix as it does Linux.
Also, a big Unix server is more likely to be more akin to a virtualization solution than something required for a "big problem".
Re: Surprise? NOT
> Can Linux do (reliably, no matter what distribution, any kernel 4 years and younger) do:
> Voice recognition
> Handwriting recognition
...probably does it better than Microsoft products considering what platform is the mobile market leader.
Although even on the desktop, that's all down to 3rd party products anyways. So you're basically crowing over the fact that Microsoft is the defacto standard. Says squat about the actual OS.
> Q; Who really uses a custom programmed APP?
This is Microsoft's bread and butter. People don't run Windows because of the stupid word processor. They run Windows because of all of the obscure little apps you've never heard of. Some of these might not even be targeted for the current version of monopolyware.
...and plenty of companies use customized and custom software.
Re: Show MS how you feel....
> Are they trying to kill Linux by being one of the major contributors to the kernel
They are no such thing.
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