1901 posts • joined 26 Jan 2009
Re: For Windows guest - KVM or XEN and which distro for host?
My thought was a small headless box for the Linux work. It's only purpose would be computation and could be a smallish box with a decent (but not terribly expensive) CPU. It would be a compute node that sits in a corner or closet somewhere out of the way. Since you're only interested in connecting to it with terminal sessions it would just be a headless "server".
Linux will play nice with Windows network protocols going either direction.
Re: MS took that to heart and people still complain.
>> MS took that to heart and people still complain.
> No one is complaining about the security of Win8. What people complain about is the utterly broken interface.
I think that's only because people are distracted.
It remains to be seen whether or not Win8 is a security disaster like the versions before it.
Re: Avoid the commodity
> The fact of the matter is that 'single X86' is no longer an appropriate technological solutin except on the desktop or small office server,
You couldn't have come up with a statement that is less true if you tried.
Furthermore, that statement is even less true now than is used to be.
If anything, it's IBMs more "high end" server business that's in danger of being obsolete.
Re: buy out
> That kind of death previsions already have been done in mid-80's, remember?
...and IBM was basically bailed out due to direct intervention from the President of the United States. It wasn't quite as flashy as the fed throwing billions of dollars at them but it was an intervention at the highest levels all the same.
Re: One very important thing...
> In my time I've seen countless people completely screw up their system by attempting to partition hard drives and install linux. Many a kid has accidentally wiped their windows installation and erased their father's work files.
...which has squat to do with whether or not it's installing Linux, Windows, or MacOS. Each of them will happily destroy your files for you if you decide to use them on the wrong machine, or in an inappropriate manner, or without backing your files up first.
Re: probably be a low take up
> Linux's backward compatibility is strictly at the Source Code level -- you generally have to recompile anything to make it run on a newer kernel or libc.
...which is not that different from DirectX really.
On the other hand, Unix-in-general has a number of ways of helping you get around this kind of problem.
Re: Locked into enforced throw-away
> Mac Mini?
Overpriced and underpowered crap that will cook itself.
> Mac Pro?
> Basically they are two separate things on the same site, pay for one or the other or both, its your call *
It's useful to have a heads up either way. It would be a shame to fly across the pond and then schlep all the way up there and miss out because of a misunderstanding fueled by petty politics and the egos of tiny men.
Re: "heroic codebreakers of Bletchley Park"
They were heroes. So they were heroic by definition.
China also has the benefit of 50 years worth of experience of other nations and the intervening improvements in technology. The US and Soviets were making this stuff up as they went along and doing it with tech older than you are.
Re: In the words of Arnold J. Rimmer
Nah. You know everything made in China is crap...
Re: Floppy Eject
> Seriously, what's with all this intolerance?
The myth of Apple superiority and improved usability is pushed hard and often.
That trash can nonsense is a good example of how bogus the mythology is and always has been.
Re: Floppy dicks
> Then laptop development reached a stage where you could go light and breezy, guess what happened next?
What really happened? PC manufacturers delivered.
Apple waited another 5+ years and then all of the blithering fanboys assumed that Apple invented the idea.
Re: Floppy Eject
> Software ejecting is something USB drives do today, or do you just pull your USB memory stick out and enjoy losing your data?
If your OS is doing that to you then it's inferior trash that belongs back in the 80s. Every little hiccup should not be a total disaster. Sometimes those hiccups aren't even caused by the end user. Ensuring that they get kicked in the balls is just bad engineering.
Re: Floppy Eject
> You drag the disc to the trashcan to eject. Simples.
Yes. Because THAT is oh so intuitive.
That sounds like something you would do to WIPE a disk, not eject it.
Re: Wired ethernet is not a rarity for laptops
Network EASIER with wireless? You're all on crack.
Ethernet is a stable well established standard and a mature technology. It's cheap, reliable and secure. Meanwhile, anything wireless has to deal with multiple protocol variants and even more protection schemes. NONE of that extra complexity is present with wired networking.
Then there's the whole speed thing.
Wireless is only OK if you have very low expectations.
Re: The Internet is so so last decade
> The internet is being depreciated in every way. Apple and Microsoft are concentrating on apps so don't expect your web support to work well there.
Was this meant as some sort of satire or sarcasm? It's hard to tell sometimes. Some people are just stupid. You can't always be sure when someone is joking.
Re: when their interests coincide with ours.
> And me streaming an old episode of Chuck on Netflix shouldn't gum up your phone calls. Prioritizing services can guarantee that. Net Neutrality destroys it.
No. Allowing the common carrier to run amok ensures that you will have no choice in VOIP carriers and you will be forced to use your local ISP which also happens to be the local physical monopoly.
This is about Verizon packets and Netflix packets being equal. If they want to prioritize one type of traffic, then they need to do it for EVERYONE.
If you're a sheepish rube, then it shouldn't only be your VOIP packets that get through. Mine also should benefit from the same QoS policy even if I choose to treat my local physical monopoly strictly as a common carrier.
Re: Precedent-setting by the overseers...
...as if I already didn't have plenty of reasons to stay out of the local movie theater.
Swatting flies with a shotgun.
It was a real "Judge Dredd" style of over reaction. The guy should have just been asked to leave.
Re: Actually old boy,
>>"Thomas Jefferson was an American."
>>>He was British and a traitor.
>>>>No, he was fully American: born and raised in Virginia.
.> .. and that made him British.
No. That made him a Virginian and he would have told you so.
That's something else that people tend to overlook about the States, the fact that we are distinct states. You would think the name would be a clue. Apparently not.
Re: But... it is the USA...
> You know... the same place where property rights as so sacred that it is considered acceptable in many states to kill a person with a gun i
No. You can be shot for committing the violent act of burglary. The notion of "home invasion" being a crime of violence is an idea that we inherited from that country that founded our original colonies.
It's not about "stuff". It's about being enough of a man that there's a place you don't have to retreat from.
Re: They might be able to refocus on cord-cutters
> I am well aware that I could build my own HTPC that would also have DVR capabilities, but I have other hobbies that are more rewarding for me.
The idea of an HTPC is not for it to be a pet. The idea of an HTPC is for it to be a custom appliance. You set it up and pretty much forget about it.
Re: Oh the irony
It's perfectly comparable. Being the original manufacturer doesn't mean that you can claim exclusive rights to service end user devices. In classic form, this software robber baron is trying to claim rights it doesn't really have. It's trying to lay claim things to things it would be laughed at for suggesting with actual property (as opposed to imaginary property).
Re: Broadcasting Linear TV Should End
Netflix can be as passive as you want it to be. Just start it up and it will keep itself going.
Re: But will there ever be anything worth watching?
TV drama is not good fodder for increased image clarity. You will just end up becoming far to intimate with the skin conditions of the actors. Not all films benefit from increased image clarity or increased screen size.
As far as sports goes... it already sounds like they are being gravely compromised.
That's not even getting into whether or not your home viewing setup is even capable of showcasing the extra screen resolution.
Re: A common API is definitely a must.
> Windows has always had a common API. It is called Win32. As of today, you can run a Win32 app written 10 years ago in any machine
How a bout a Rasberry PI? Where's the version of msword to go with it?
Talk is cheap. I can recompile stuff for the PI and go on my way. Microsoft seems unwilling or unable and their lack of comittment sets the stage for the rest of the industry.
Re: Microsoft change CPUs???
What's to bet on? You take some of your billions and a few interns and you start porting your product to the other CPU. You don't have to bet the farm on it. Just make it a viable option. At least port your own stuff.
The whole point of Microsoft's core product is to isolate applications from the details of the underlying hardware. That's what an operating system is for.
If they weren't the incompetents and PHBs that we all know that they are, they would be able to target a different hardware platform at the drop of a hat.
> Leaving incompetent admins stranded. Good admins were already
That's great except you're talking about a platform sold on the idea that you don't need competent people managing it.
Re: Laughie Charlie Translation from MS speak
Linux killing Wintel? I think you have that backwards. It was NT that was supposed to kill Unix in the server room. People were saying that back in the 90s. So how did that go for you?
Linux doesn't need world domination. The fact that Linux makes the world safe for other Unixen is an incredibly good thing. Those hacked ATMs are the perfect example why. The world needs ot be kept safe from totally crapulent monopolies.
Re: Dinosaur MS
> SecureBoot is a good technology. Look at the ATMs
...which is the perfect reason to force this on consumers buying ARM based tablets.
The question isn't one of portability. If you build your platform tools on a particular architecture, then porting apps is a relatively trivial affair. This is how different Unix platforms feed off of each other. They are all very similar and a relatively easy port versus something entirely else.
The real problem is one of comittment. Microsoft had an Alpha port. Sun had an early x86 port. Neither of those was really supported as well as they should have been so they kind of languished and deteiorated.
That's why Windows ARM tablets are so tricky. There's no software for them. The 30 years of Win/DOS legacy apps aren't there.
3rd parties have to be willing to port stuff. Microsoft saying "make it so" won't change anything. Although there isn't any good reason that Microsoft's (or Oracle's) flagship apps couldn't be ported to whatever-on-ARM.
Re: I have looked
> If I work on it, zero. One of the first things I do when I start working for a new company is to enforce warnings-as-errors
So what you're really saying is that this problem is pervasive across the industry and that closed proprietary code isn't any worse in this regard than Free Software is. It's just easier to hide your sins when no one can see your code.
> Given the little boxes us plebs have to live in (and getting smaller every year) pretty soon anything over 42in is going to seem huge.
I think the whole point of this tech is that you don't need a bat cave in order to throw a large image.
A conventional projector is what forces you to have a cavernous expanse in order for the image to expand.
> Keep these sort of systems for those that can afford dedicated home theatre spaces.
All you need is a room with a nice unobstructed stretch of wall and the ability to draw the shades.
There's no reason the space has to be "dedicated".
In fact, all of the dedicated media room spaces in the local McMansions all seem to be total pants.
My "finished attic" is better than all of that oversized/overpriced nonsense.
4K projectors are a welcome addition to the market. They are absurdly priced now but they won't always be so. These things will allow you to fully appreciate the format unlike really small TVs in spaces not well optimized for them.
More corporate welfare please.
No. "HD took off so quickly" because there was a government mandated transition causing everyone's old TV sets to become doorstops.
Re: hold 25% of a film.
All of this nonsense makes me glad that I still have the disk-by-mail part of Netflix.
The amount of over compression that pirates will put up with is appalling.
Re: Devaluation of the K
Kilo as 1024 makes perfect sense in context... once you realize that you aren't dealing with base 10 anymore.
NONE of the SI units make sense in a base 2 context. It's best to not bother getting your beaurocratic panties in a bunch to begin with.
> Go and see one of these in the store and tell me you still don't want one.
Of course putting your nose up to the screen doesn't count.
What kind of impression does it give in a real viewing environment that closely matches your own house?
"Artificial benchmarks" really don't tell you anything and never have.
Re: Tabarrok's curve, first mover and the elephant
>>In the real world, being first to market is an advantage.
> Something of a myth, I fear. Far easier to learn from the mistakes of the first mover.
That's still not a problem. Progress will occur rather than everyone being stuck in a 20 year quagmire waiting for some patents to expire. The current market leaders benefit from this despite whining that others want to do likewise to them.
Re: Proof by assertion
> The problem with your argument is that innovation then becomes a trade secret.
...which is really no different then the situation we already have.
Patent applications are CRAP. They SUCK as documentation. They're worthless for their stated purpose of disclosing trade secrets. Beyond that, something being a "trade secret" is more advantageous because it allows all of the trivial crap that can be recreated by undergraduates to be safely recreated by other companies.
On top of all of that we have the treble damages rule which ensures that NO ONE ever looks at the patent database anyways. They do this to avoid further liability.
The "point of patents" has been totally subverted.
> Having owned a mac mini for years I wasn't even aware that intel
PCs have had standardized low profile form factors since before Steve came back. Some of us even suggested these as alternatives to the "desk lamp" Macs back in the day.
Re: Far too expensive
> Ask yourself why laptops sell more than desktop PCs
Laptops are portable and self contained. A NUC is none of those things.
Some laptops are even far more expandable than this NUC and will run circles around it.
HELL. I can probably get better hardware in laptop form for less than this NUC.
Re: Far too expensive
> One of these days you're going to figure out that your personal wants aren't representative of the general buying public.
You need to stand in front of a mirror and repeat that.
Re: No passive cooling!
>> "The NUC (new and old) is very quiet indeed, despite the active cooling"
> Until the fan bearings get sad.
I've been a low profile PC user for a long time. I used Minis for awhile and then switched over to IONs.
I will let you know when "the fan bearings get sad".
My most aggressively cooled machines continue to chug on and not bother the end user with the bionic ears.
Re: Far too expensive
Small and quiet are only selling points for stupid fanboys that think that Apple invented the low profile PC.
This kind of machine is far less exciting when you've got stuff from the likes of Alienware, or Dell, or any random white box builder that combines better performance and lower cost while still being sufficiently small and much more maintainable.
Past a certain point, the extra cost of smaller just doesn't make any sense to the vast majority.
Re: No passive cooling!
> Intel's web site makes it clear: active cooling, so it would be useless as a media centre even if it it were not massively over priced for that task.
My projector generates more fan noise than any of my other AV components including the HTPC.
Re: Desk Clutter
> couple of days of dropping the monitor face down on the desk while you prat about cos you cant get at it
There are these things called HUBS. Perhaps you should look into them.
Re: Power Usuage
500 Watts? Even my Hex core AMD tower with 10 drives and a discrete video card doesn't draw 500 Watts.
Re: Neat in a way, but too "middle ground" for me.
> I'd rather the built in power in the Mac Mini - yes harder to replace if it does wrong but neater and less chance of being pulled out.
The "tidy" aspect of this is of very little value in the average home viewing setup. On the other hand, putting another source of heat in your HTPC just complicates things.
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