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A highly specious argument.
The idea that personal papers should be muddled with creative works that have been published is an unfortunate consequence of European ideas about copyrights. This includes the daft notion that every scrap of paper is precious.
Private papers should remain as such and any attempt to drag copyright into this discussion is merely clouding the issue for the benefit of a miniscule set of corporate interests and their misguided lackeys.
Any modern discussion on privacy needs to start by rolling back copyright concepts to 1783.
Re: What about...
So the law is null and void then?
The 1st Amendment is about all manner of things. This includes things that are likely to offend or be considred obscene even if it isn't the intent of the speaker to be a troll.
Surely you understood the Mel Brooks reference in the summary. Or perhaps that was wishful thinking.
Re: In other news ...
No. Not mere sea salt. That pink snooty stuff from Hawaii.
The more expensive the better.
Re: is it bullshit Friday or something?
Can I run Android apps on it?
That's ultimately the only thing that matters.
If I can untar a copy of Oil Rush for Linux onto a Gentoo box and it runs, then Gentoo is Linux. The fact that there are a lot of other things that might be different in Gentoo doesn't really matter so much.
One typically defines a platform by compatability. This includes the Amiga, MacOS, Windows, Java, PhoneOS, and yes Android.
The fact that Amazon heavily brands it's stuff doesn't matter so much.
Re: In other news ...
I think the number for Apple products is WAY too high. Consider the distribution of percentages across various demographic groups. Some of course are going to have less penetration than others simply because Apple products are "luxury" goods and a lot of households simply don't have the money to waste on products of that kind regardless of what kind of logo is on it.
iPod/iPhone likely represents the bulk of the numbers and iPhones are already being undercut by Androids.
iPads aren't numerous enough yet and probably are secondary Apple devices. Apple's computing products simply don't have enough penetration to be relevant to this kind of study.
Even in the suburban conspicuous consumption demographic, there may not be large enough numbers to justify generalizing 50% to the population at large. The 50% number probably is for the suburban conspicuous consumption demographic most likely to even have Apple products.
Re: Buyer Beware
Improved performance is the often stated point of SSD. That includes whatever use case you happen to be interested in. Given the price premium of even the consumer gear, anything less is an obvious rip off.
Even for my own "light consumer" use, I would be shocked and dismayed if I shelled out a ton of money for an allegedly faster SSD device and only got 75MB/s of sequential writes out of it.
Clearly, you can't just blindly trust the logo on the box and just assume that it will deliver on it's promises.
Some people just don't get socialism...
This isn't about paying for something produced by Hollywood at the local Tesco.
This about your government taxes paying for something and then someone else trying to make you pay for that same thing again.
Too rich for my blood.
I am by no means a "freetard". I have quite a pile of purchased spinny disks. However, I am not made of money. The prices for BBC stuff on DVD is kind of outrageous. It's pretty much the most expensive stuff out there except for StarTrek. Although classic DrWho even has StarTrek DVDs beat.
That means that BBC material is low on my shopping list. That means that the greedy sods aren't making any money off me. Someone else is.
If it's not priced low enough to be an "impulse buy" then procrastination is the likely result.
Re: Eating your cake and having it there.
If you're British, you were already forced to pay for this stuff. Charging you again is just double dipping. The old stuff should be liberated to the public domain anyways.
If you want to charge the rest of us that have never paid a TV license, then that's another matter.
Rise? Don't you mean Beneath?
> - Rise of the Planet of the Apes (Risible would be nearer the mark)
Clearly you've never seen "Beneath the Planet of the Apples".
No Ape movie can be worse than that one. It would defy the laws of physics.
delete from program where title='Freddy Got Fingered';
> Highlander II or Freddy Got Fingered
This movie is why I use a PVR that can be hacked so that an unconditional black list of shows that shall never be recorded can be created. Some movies need a 4th thumbs down and a little black circle beside their name.
Pathetic fanboy excuxes.
If you are advocating buying the extended warranty then you've just admitted that the product is crap and the vendor doesn't stand behind their product.
The $1800 laptop from the "quality" brand should already have a 3 year warranty.
If their stuff is really all that it is cracked up to be then it won't be a burden.
Re: Worst film ever made?
It's a movie you have to watch for yourself to fully appreciate. It immediately jumps the shark with that opening monologue from the big giant head. It's so bad you can't turn away and you've got to watch the rest of it out of demented morbid curiosity if nothing else.
Re: Whatever the truth, Apple subcontractor's employee abuse under the spotlight
> The explosions don't just happen at factories making Apple devices, here's an explosion at a factory making Sony laptops less than 6 months ago.
This only comes up when it's time to defend Apple against charges of exploitation and tends to be ignored any other time, specially when drawing direct comparisons between Apple product and Sony product. Facts are only acknowledged when they are convenient.
Re: What a load of BS
Apple has a lot of obnoxious fans that like to tell anyone that "thinks different" that they are meaningless and obsolete.
That's bound to trigger a bit of animosity.
Re: Economically confused cynics?
I can wait.
These greedy wankers can pound sand for all I care.
My last batch of drives are doing great. The one before that is still holding up. Don't foresee great need for awhile. I can wait them out.
Elastic demand can be a b*tch.
Not an excuse to wait in line like a Fanboy...
Just wait. If UPS can't be trusted to handle your fondleslab just wait for them to be available in sufficient numbers. There's no need to stand in line like some Trekkie waiting for the next reboot.
It's not like you have to worry about spoilers.
...or get something slightly else.
The beauty of going to Dell is that I am offered a different set of tradeoffs.
I am not limited to the one or two options that Apple presents. Dell has more than that by itself. Never mind the rest of the market.
Dell and friends will allow me to get EXACTLY what I want without paying an arm and a leg for it. I won't need to spend $2400 just to get a drive bay or expansion port.
As far as "Apple quality" goes: In my own experience they are the worst "brand name" I have ever dealt with.
...a little self-evident.
This is a little self evident. If mammals were in a position to take advantage of climate change and the fall of the dinosaurs, they needed to be around already and flourishing in the fringes in some niche that the dinosaurs were not well adapted for.
There's a wide range possible between zero mammals and dominating the planet.
On the one hand we have an entire family of interoperable operating systems that have been doing the heavy living for business and the Internet for decades. They have a time tested design and a stable common interface. They don't need to indulge in so much "game changing" because they got it right the first time (or at least close enough).
The "clone of minix" is just one example. Trying to belittle it won't erase the rest.
"server" and "game changer" kind of have no business together. If you don't understand this then you really have no clue about any of this.
Re: Windows 7 is probably the fastest EVER generalist UI
The only advantage Windows ever had was the perception that it is the monopoly. That means that software is created for it that's not created for anything else. In any other aspect, it has always been inferior to all of it's rivals. Doesn't matter if it's 1988 or 2012.
Use Windows if you need to. Just don't kid yourself that it's worth anything on it's own.
Shortcuts are an illusion.
If you design a system expecting it to be managed by trained monkeys, you will end up with a system that looks like it was managed by trained monkeys. There's really no getting around that. The superficial top layer of the interface is the least interesting aspect of the whole system. Being able to actually understand the system is what separates the competent NT admins from the ones that have to be rescued by Unix SAs.
Re: This could be the tipping point...
Whipping out your tokens of conspicuous consumption on mass transit is asking to be mugged. Not that standing with a tablet is much better than standing with a netbook anyways. Then there's the whole issue of SPACE during rush hour. Anything you have room to use will likely be an inferior experience.
Re: Does any intelligent person see jobs as a God/Guru?
Design matters. However, there is no such thing as "perfection". The notion that there is and that it should be centrally enforced is a very destructive one.
Fanboys are fascists that have tunnel vision when it comes to Apple, Jobs, and the rest of the market.
Clouds tend to evaporate...
You would think that the Cloud would be a great thing to use for a secondary off-site backup. However, I recently had a bad experience with this that highlights the basic problem of the Cloud in general. A remote backup provider just "went away" quietly without sufficient notice and no clear indication from the local client component that the remote service had gone away.
Fortunately, someone was being diligent and double checked things. Otherwise a really nasty situation may have ensued.
Any form of outsourcing is a loss of control. An external service could be interrupted suddenly for a wide variety of reasons. 3rd parties (see Apple iCloud) also like to get in the way.
Re: How about old school HDMI?
An industry standard but still somewhat odd connector is still industry standard.
Such a socket also does not use up the ONE AND ONLY expansion port on the device.
Then there's the fact that your one-and-only-expansion port is also your power connector.
Re: Well it could take us into the post PC era
The iPad is designed to be a glorified Tivo. No matter how many people like to pretend otherwise, such a machine is not a PC. It will not replace PCs due to lack of basic features and the fact that the tech is in control of the users.
"Perfection" means something different to everyone.
> 3) Would you tell someone who'd spend $2k on a cartier watch they could have bought 200+ casios with that? Actually you probably would.
It helps to have a clue in these things lest you get taken advantage of.
> 5) It's his money.
Yes, and we retain the liberty to call him a fool too.
There are diminishing returns when it comes to bleeding edge high end hardware but you can still get some pretty powerful kit for not much money. If you hit that sweet spot, you can still have a very powerful machine that will stand the test of time and you don't have to spend 10K on it or even $3600.
Re: THIS GUY IS....
...about a year late.
How long has this nonsense been going on? Isn't this thing already a "done deal"? So who really cares if it's being disclosed now?
It's a pretty worthless gesture at this point.
Re: Market share slump
Apple doesn't lower prices. It just updates gear. They have been doing this for a rather long time now. It should not be a surprise to anyone.
iPad3 will follow the same pattern as iMacs, Mac Pros, and Mac Minis in this regard.
Re: part of the reason why I'm contemplating on moving to a Mac..
You are going to "flee to the Mac" over printing?
If you can't deal with CUPS on Fedora, what makes you think it will be any better on a Mac?
The GPL only has problems co-existing with those companies that go out of their way to make problems. The situation with VLC is a perfect example of this. Apple doesn't need to be jerks about Free Software. They choose to be. They choose to give their customers only one means to install software and then to impose conditions at odds with Free Software.
The GPL is really only a problem with people that have a toddler's view of ownership.
> Yes, on what planet is Dell "tier one" at anything.
The one where cheap PC kit outperforms proprietary RISC and clustered solutions are the norm. Even old school Unix shops ditch "little iron" for clustered solutions to avoid being reamed on hardware costs.
If you don't do any back office computing you might not notice that Dell does more than sell cheap consumer desktops.
Re: Casus belli
In some regards, a parasite is better. At least a parasite depends on keeping the host alive. In this respect, a classic patent troll is not nearly as bad as Apple. Microsoft may be scum and a parasite but at least they aren't trying to destroy the rest of the market.
Re: Flashback-G and Java vulnerabilities
...what if it never has a chance to run?
NoScript. No Problem.
Re: Re: There is only one thing to understand
...except DRM never separated any non-paying customer from content.
Although DRM does tend to make things more difficult for those that actually bother to pay.
Re: Re: Re: @Metavisor
MacPorts isn't another repository. It's an entirely different framework.
It's not comparable at all. You don't have a single management interface or a single tracking and dependency database.
Half a dozen disjoint products is not comparable to a Linux package manager. Neither is the Apple app store really. However, it's a lot closer to apt-get than MacPorts is.
None of the Apple Corp or 3rd party options allow a 3rd party vendor like Adobe to tie into the package management system directly like Linux tools can.
Tools vs Product.
Re: Think the KISS principle.
The KISS principle is simply unnecessary. The n00b consumer won't pay attention to the stickers anyway. They will just buy something that's sitting in Best Buy. They may or may not even care if it has the current version of Windows. They won't check the pedigree of the box. They simply don't care.
People choose to remain blissfully unaware. That includes these silly little stickers.
Proprietary vendor nonsense.
"innovation" is fine so long as it's not forced down everyone's throats. That is the Microsoft way. That's also how Apple does things. Bold experiments are fine so long as they don't trash the status quo. The fact that this is easy to do in Linux is why un-loved aspects of X11 are so handy.
Defaults should be sane, useful, usable, and represent the widest use case.
Unix does have some notion of UI guidelines.
> where you need to know details of the terminal line to install / remove certain applications.
Like what? Stuff that's bleeding edge and hasn't been fully released to the public yet?
That's an artifact of an open development process. It doesn't mean what you are trying to claim it does.
Time for a Jeffersonian slapdown!
> The requirement is only that it never have been done THAT WAY before.
This is precisely the sort of crap that Thomas Jefferson rejected as far too obvious and trivial when he was serving as America's first patent clerk.
You don't get a patent for a mousetrap made out of oak rather than pine.
it's time to get Jeffersonian on these people.
How 2012 is like 1984
The fanboys need to create their own reality regardless of what they actual facts are.
As others have said, this kind of approach would not cut it in any other area. Who cares if Apple leads in overpriced PCs. The bulk of the market does not belong to them.
The same is true of phones.
There is simply no need for this mindless "Apple is unstoppable" propaganda. What kind of future are these people pining for really? Are they hoping at a 2nd chance to out-Microsoft Microsoft?
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