Re: And still Apple owns 70-80% of the whole market profits...
The fact that your favorite corporation can thrive while abusing you more is really nothing to brag about.
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The fact that your favorite corporation can thrive while abusing you more is really nothing to brag about.
> Is that really what most psychology graduates do? Most of the ones I knew at college seem to work in HR now.
And would they actually achieve anything if they were actual therapist or would they just suck the life out of your bank account for a result you could have gotten from a hooker or a priest?
Pretending you're helping the client and actually helping the client are two entirely different things.
Social workers get paid crap. Clearly this one feels like a chump and needs to make up some nonsense to make himself feel better about it. The whole enterprise was carried out in a manner that tends to confirm everyone's biases against the social sciences.
> We've redesigned the desktop. Again. Applications? Nah someone else will do those...
> This is why Linux has never and will never catch on for the desktop.
You think you're really witty but you're just an idiot. This is EXACTLY the same kind of nonsense that Microsoft is subjecting people to with the interface that's no longer called Metro. The Ribbon was the same thing too.
So the idea that only Linux subjects you to UI churn is highly bogus nonsense.
And truly, if anything MATE and Cinnamon are LEGACY interfaces. They are a refuge from the people that don't want to be subjected to Unity or Metro. They are actually an example of good HID principles in action.
They're interfaces consistent with what you already know.
That last version of Mint I tried clearly seemed to be still an Ubuntu derivative. So it hardly seems to be a compelling refuge from Ubuntu. Seems like you have to go clear back to Debian for that.
If you want to have compatibility across a broad range of hardware, then the solution is to make the inferior platforms less inferior rather than gutting the ones that are better. The idea that MacOS must be gutted to accomodate tablets is precisely the kind of nonsense that non-rube users worry about.
> Why do I give a crap how hard it is to do anything inside the case?
> The services and requirements of all technology users, be they conglomerates or the domestic housewife simply cant be compared between then and now.
Sure they can. Your hardware requires 3rd party software. It doesn't matter if it's a PC from 1984 or a game console from 2013. The same principles apply today. We just give these things different names. You use terms like "ecosystem" but it's really the same thing.
Anything that can turn Apple into a minority player again will threaten it's "ecosystem".
Although Apple benefits from being an established player. Although they could be relegated to niche status again just like they were in the 90s.
That's why all of the Microsoft attempts at non-x86 platforms have been pants: no "ecosystem".
> The problem appears to be that analysts only understand one business model, the one where you have the most "market share".
If they are selling computing devices that depend on mind share with 3rd party software developers, then that's the right model to fixate on. Without 3rd party content producers, your platform will go nowhere. Microsoft is currently experiencing this problem.
When it comes to platforms built on vendor lock based on an "ecosystem", then market share matters.
I bought a "cheapo" tablet on a whim because it was cheap enough to be an impulse buy.
The local iPad fan promptly DUMPED that iPad and her iPhone soon after.
> Scientists and engineers care about their DATA.
Engineers have enough sense to let IT types do their thing.
> They do not care a jot about IT types rattling on about LUNs and SANs and choice of RAID levels
They will when their DATA goes bye bye.
Scientists are arrogant gits that treat non-scientists like sh*t. They will be the ones to whine when their data becomes a casualty of ignoring "irrelevant technical details".
The problem is that you have to define "reasonable". I am sure that there are plenty of companies that don't want to pay what everyone else has. Trying to take advantage and get away with something is kind of how these people naturally operate. So corporations whining about unfairness need to be taken with a grain of salt.
> Spoken like a person who has NEVER built a company from the ground up.
99% of CEOs are no different really. They are all just a bunch of MBAs acting as caretaker's for someone else's creation. Most of the time they can't even get that right. The lot of them probably couldn't build a successful lemonade stand on their own.
Don't confuse executive equivalent of janitors with real capitalists.
> Perhaps your experience "I tried it once" is no longer reflective
Considering that to try ANY of these devices in any meaningful way, you are going to have to spend THOUSANDS in order do it, that should not be terribly surprising. If anything that just highlights the essential stupidity of the entire concept of a "smart tv".
Interesting features are tied to the manufacturer of your TV. They may or may not be able to deliver. Chances are that experiences will vary widely. Thus a consistent experience will require creating a sort of walled garden.
It makes much more sense to plug in a cheap disposable puck that can be easily and cheaply updated as needed and represent an easy way to enforce a common interface without locking yourself to a single display manufacturer.
This "enforce a consistent experience" idea is one of the main reasons I started using HTPCs.
>> "And there we have it, a bad analogy. A bad car analogy even. All sensible debate is now over."
> Eh? What's so bad about this analogy?
An analogy is supposed to be something like a simile or metaphor where one item relates to another in some way or is similar to the other in some way. It's not just some random rambling that happens to suit your pet political agenda.
Sand in an engine will not slow it down (like a governor or extra cargo), it will destroy it.
The sand remark was pretty retarded really.
Ricardo Montalban sophisticated? You must be joking. If anything, watching the two Khans side by side makes Ricardo look like a cartoon villan. All he needed was a mustache to twirl.
He's a genetically engineered superhuman. He doesn't need a chest that looks faked. Everything can be understated rather than overdone.
...and yes I did watch the two of them back to back.
> Sub-prime mortgages were forced upon them by liberal regulators
The only thing that was forced on them by liberal regulators was the principle of treating people equally. The same rules apply to everyone. You don't get to apply different rules to the "wrong kind of people".
The ease of reselling loans is what fueled the process. This was helped along by fraudulent ratings. None of that has anything to do with "liberal regulators".
> People buying taking out loans / mortgages / credit cards that they couldn't afford,
It's the job of bankers with some skin in the game to prevent that kind of thing.
Eliminate consequences and all sorts of interesting nonsense will happen.
"Greedy bankers" are supposed to be the adults in the room.
Unfortunately, sitting at the office may not have any impact on any of the problems some people are whining about. Being present at one of the company owned facilities doesn't mean that you will be anywhere near any of your teammates.
As a simple matter of auditing, most any communication of any importance needs to be done in a manner that allows the parties in question to be on opposite corners of the planet.
Forcing people to come to the office will solve none of the problems inherent in a large company that has scaled poorly because human groups scale poorly in general.
> Many I have encountered, even recently, still don't get the virtualisation that a LUN brought 10+ yrs ago nevermind the virtualisation that automated storage tiering, etc, brings to the game now.
Unacceptably high latency?
> So you'll steal the content rather than buy it.
It's all the same on the balance sheet.
I am certainly not going to BUY something I can't crack. Media is only worth something to me if I can do what I want with it. It's no different than physical personal property in this regard.
DRM just makes the product lamer and more annoying.
> No, it won't. They'll see the drop in demand an no rise in theft; so they may begin to ask more pertinent questions about their sales strategy.
I bet you believe in the tooth fairy too.
> Netflix, Hulu etc not enough?
These services are a big part of the reason that even BDs are selling for $5 a pop.
Both serve to gravely devalue the market price of movies and media in general. You don't even need to pirate anymore. You can just wait for the latest blockbuster to get to the top of your queue and arrive in your mailbox (or be available to stream).
Netflix pretty much single handedly did in the $5 per rental B&M store.
> Remember that when you have a 20ft screen and massive pixels on 1080p - even 8k probably won't be enough.
Where would you fit yours? I have a room pretty much dedicated to this sort of thing and anything much beyond 10ft is pushing it. Furthermore, I've yet to see a McMansion with a space suitable for a larger screen (sadly enough).
It takes quite a bit to just perceive the benefit of 1080p. Going beyond that is a matter of greatly diminishing returns for most people. Screen size and the viewing environment is paramount here. Many people just don't care and/or don't bother with a setup where these larger resolutions manifest well.
Industry simply got fat and happy off of the digital transition and want the party to continue.
> Why do you armchair lawyers feel the need to try and find any excuse for your thievery?
Who cares about the law? We're talking ethics here. Remember ethics?
That also includes things like not lying or distorting the facts or the definitions of common words or legal terms.
As far as the law goes, you don't need to be a Harvard Law Professor to peruse a copy of Blacks Law. That is enough to refute some of the nonsense common on the web.
> So what - it's still no excuse for theft
What theft? Nothing is being "stolen" based on any remotely moral point of view. This is stuff that's already being freely distributed.
> Paying users won't notice.
That's a total lie. They notice already.
That is why I prefer my own rips to using a sanctioned decoder.
>> If anything they abuse emergency services and are a disproportunate drain on the system.
> Spurious malpractice litigation is, by orders of magnitude, a bigger abuse of the system than 'the poorest' draining the emergency services.
A single ER visit is likely to run 10K without even getting into treatment.
Med-Mal premiums for an ER doctor are 70K.
Your tort-reform astroturfing is just poorly informed nonsense.
> They should have seen this coming, perhaps, but then again it's not like everybody applying for health care every day of the year.
Not an uncommon problem in IT. There are many businesses that experience predictable extreme spikes in usage. Also, it is very common place for there to be "open enrollment" periods for insurance in particular.
...all of it was obviously forseeable.
Civil servants and government contractors will likely just get a free pass.
> Of course, because those who have more money deserve to live longer, right?
Yes, but not for the most obvious reason.
The poor deserve to die sooner because they are idiots. They don't live shorter lives because they are poor. They live shorter lives because they are idiots. Their poverty and their shorter lives are both effects of their stupidity.
Longevity and quality of life are a combination of good genetics and sensible lifestyle choices.
Free consumer giveaways are really a red herring here.
> Free healthcare socialist or communist?
> Hmm no, I think the word is simply - Civilised.
No. The term for that is socialist and there's really no getting around it.
EMBRACE your inner communist rather than trying to deny it.
Trying to call it something else is just dishonest.
A free society doesn't mean you get free stuff. It means that you have enough free will that you can be responsible for your own success or your own failure.
The poorest aren't "left to die". If anything they abuse emergency services and are a disproportunate drain on the system. Since hospitals (even non-profits) are essentially run by profiteers, they have no interest in curbing this. They also inflate their invoices making any analysis of healthcare in general more difficult.
More insurance is really not the solution to that problem.
> "According to our records it looks like you vote Republican. The medical procedure you need will be denied at this time."
If you manage your finances consistent with your stated political views, that won't be a problem.
Just pay cash. Take it out of your HSA.
Being a ward of the state is simply unnecessary.
> Obama missed a trick here, he should have offered a free assault rifle with every Obamacare Policy...
> The Republicans would have been running to vote for that....
With others in control of what I am allowed to buy, I entirely expect that the increase in my monthly insurance premiums will be so bad that the difference would be enough to buy an entirely new "assault rifle" every month.
I would be much less opposed to a new tax than corporate welfare for the insurance industry.
The thing about the current version of Windows is not that it is "improved" but that it is SUPPORTED.
It's the operating system full of holes. You need the support so that you can get the holes fixed.
It's much like any business that cares about vendor support. You upgrade to the current version no so much for the shiny shiny but because you have to in order to be taken seriously when you call up the vendor and say "this thing is broken".
> In the 13 years since Windows XP was first released, we've had:
...mostly new hardware released.
It doesn't matter if the bus changes. It's just a different set of device drivers. You would need that anyways. Tech changes and progresses regardless of what names you give stuff.
Even the bit about multiple CPUs is a little bogus. That's mainly a difference between server computing and consumer level computing. Multi-CPU "desktop" systems were commonplace before XP ever came along.
As a version of NT, something that once ran on Alpha processors, there's nothing on that list that should be at all disruptive to the Windows NT line of operating systems. It all should either seem like old news or be taken in stride.
An OS vendor should be ahead of the curve, not behind the 8-ball. Doesn't matter if that OS vendor is consumer focused.
>> Good luck with your 13 year old car.
> What's wrong with my 13-year-old car?
> Apart from the fact that the stereo doesn't have a USB port or play MP3s, of course.
Just get an aftermarket stereo. Then your "clunker" will have a stereo that's the envy of a BMW owner. You don't have to spend a lot to achieve this effect either.
> Good luck with your 13 year old car.
Stop buying total sh*t from Detroit.
I expect both of our cars to be purring along quite contently when they are 13. They may be doing that purring in some 3rd world nation less infested with "consumers", but I expect they will be running just fine.
> Active Directory: Supported in Linux. Look up Samba
Active Directory? Really? I hardly think that heavy AD users are the driving force in the lingering of XP.
It's like the tangent about video capture cards. Probably completely out of scope.
TV tuners are a really esoteric thing to bring into this argument. We're talking about people unwilling to upgrade machines from 2 Windows releases back. This is probably not the crowd that's lining up to use a Hauppage or Ceton card.
...although while we are add it: I have been happily using video capture cards in Linux since 1998.
>> At work for iOS development we got some Mac Minis. I can right-click on something, and then wait....
> Pardon? You must be one of those clever chaps who know much more about the system than the makers and "improved" it
One of my stock Minis felt like a bloated pig until I broke down and took a putty knife to it. The thing was pre-configured with a hardware configuration insufficient with the OS that came with it. It needed a memory upgrade before it was really usable.
Having blind faith in Apple is rather foolish.
> Paying $200 or more for an operating system is insane. Especially for one with a desktop for kinky gardeners.
The real cost is more like $90. Just get an OEM copy. These are pretty trivial to find.
Only a total rube would buy the "consumer boxed version".
> Great - and have ~ ten times as many security patches to evaluate
Don't be an idiot. It's Unix. It will chug along happily until you decide it needs to be changed. Since it's not a festering pile to begin with, you can forgo the updates if your Windows experiences have made you afraid of them.
Same goes for a Mac really.
If you are a real business user and not just some poser, your real problem with be "support". What obscure vertical market apps do you need and what platforms do those run on? The current version of monopolyware might not be supported yet.
> 3 Using the original discs, clean install Win XP in VBox
Personally I like this idea. Although I am not sure how noob friendly it is. Running an entirely other OS in a VM may also be too much for your XP era hardware to handle.
> It depends on your graphics hardware, of course - some open source drivers work exceptionally well. And with the SteamOS announcement, this should become the norm rather than the exception.
Gabe doesn't care about political purity in device drivers. He cares about performance.
If anything, Nvidia is in the drivers seat here because they have the best combination of silicon and drivers available for Linux. Anything involving Intel is a total non-starter regardless of platform. The hardware just isn't up to the job. AMD also has a chance to influence things because their hardware is not a joke.
Until AMD can provide a superior result (under Linux), Gabe will just follow Nvidia's lead.
The right tool for the job.
The things that I use most often are front and center in my UI. There's is no need to go searching for them. FORCING me to use a search interface for common tasks is less efficient and less easy.
The problem with Unity and other interfaces like it is that it sabotages my ability to keep the most relevant stuff handy.
> If properly applied, the concept of "prior art" would destroy many large companies like Apple, Microsoft and Google because they simply commercialize ideas that other people
Improving an invention does not require hijacking that invention and effectively stealing it from those that actually invented it.
In 2013, one simply doesn't need a 20 year monopoly in order to make money off of a better mousetrap. The entire market moves much too fast. Progress happens far too quickly and an invention may become obsolete before anyone successfully clones it.
> Then I discovered the US version of Netflix and realised half the films I've ripped are already there, often in HD
Your DVD rip is still probably better quality.
The features of your PC video player probably trumps whatever Netflix player you're using.
Your DVD rip is playable on just about anything including platforms that Netflix doesn't support.
Playing your local copy doesn't require any sort of external network and doesn't consume your 3G or your home Internet bandwidth cap.
Any task is going to be harder if you procrastinate until you have a huge mountain of work.
> You must rip those CD's.
> It's the closest you'll ever get to "sticking it to the man".
It's your own personal property. How is it in any way shape or form "sticking it to the man"?