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Apples were the playthings of the wealthy.
Commodore is who actually got computers into the hands of people.
Re: Now that's just going too far
...and to that point specifically Jobs and Woz were no Henry Ford.
Apple kit has always been overpriced since day one. If anything, Apple is more like the pre-Ford luxury automakers like Mercedes. That's certainly the comparison modern fanboys want to make now.
The Ford of computing is more along the likes of Commodore or Sinclair.
If it were only up to Apple computing would have gone nowhere. The masses would never be able to afford it.
Pottering just doesn't get it.
Yes. This is something that the "progress for the sake of progress" crowd just doesn't seem to get. In the domains where Unix has it's most powerful stronghold, the one overriding consideration is reliability. It doesn't have to be fast It doesn't have to be fancy. It doesn't have to be usable by a trained monkey. It needs to be reliable.
It's simply insane that it's a server vendor that's pushing this crap.
Re: Such hatred
> "Why do I get the feeling that a lot of the people that want to keep sysvinit have never tried to read a service script, let alone write one."
Not only have I read and written service scripts but I have done so quite successfully. They're just standard shell scripts.
On the other hand, my first attempt to alter Upstart scripts resulted in an unbootable system.
Individual init scripts can be as simple or as complex as you want them to be. Init itself is very simple and difficult to sabotage without a lot of highly focused effort.
Lies, damned lies, and marketing masquerading as journalism...
It sounds like someone has an axe to grind. I looks like some fanboy wants to distract from the fact that the PC part of Apple's business is now only 15% while mobile devices in general account for more than 2 thirds of Apple revenue based on the fanboy's own numbers.
Apple is an ARM shop pushing consumer electronics. It ceased to be a PC company a long time ago.
Re: Eric Raymond's (in)famous quote
The painter may need to take it personally. The painter may need to fix his work. Telling him pleasant lies might spare his ego but it's probably not what's really best for him.
Does the white lie benefit you or the person you're telling it to?
Different day, same song.
> I can't imagine HBO going to market for less than netflix,
HBO already has a price structure with cable that places them at a higher price point than Netflix. I can't see them lowering that significantly. I am not sure they need to. They are already the classic ala carte premium cable option and always have been.
Way to stay classy reg
You wouldn't want us to mistake you for real journalists.
Re: As a parent I frankly disapprove
Once you hit 30, you have an increasingly greater risk of conceiving a genetically defective child. In some professions, you're barely going to be established by that age. In the US, you will likely be bogged down by student loans until that age (if not later).
Preserving the fresh eggs rather than trying to make do with the spoiled ones makes a lot of sense medically.
Those ugly data caps and whatnot.
I don't stream anything from my mobile device over an actual mobile network. The restrictions are just too draconian. If my phone could pick up something like conventional radio, that would not be such a bad thing. People like to call it a dinosaur but it (broadcast) is still a much better solution to the problem. Individual streams just don't scale.
Re: I also watched this popular TV programme in the 1970's
The idea of minaturization in general was pretty common in the 50s. Pretty much anyone that read sci-fi in the 60s, 70s, or 80s could see stuff like the iDevices coming and probably imagined a number of their own that looked like "shameless Apple copies".
I thought up some "shameless Apple copies" of my own in the 80s. (Inspired by Asimov)
Re: Those in glass houses, Sir Jony...
It doesn't matter if they "stole" it or "bought" it. The result is the same. They cribbed it from someone else. They did not invent it. They merely took someone else's stuff and reused it.
Apple like Microsoft are both great at watching the innovators flounder. Then they swoop down like vultures when everyone else has done the hard work trying to push the technology forward. They steal or buy stuff and then run the real risk takers out of business.
Re: @SuccessCase Those in glass houses, Sir Jony...
> "Now I know many techies don't have much in the way of creative capacity."
I would rather that form followed function and that "design" was kept out of it. I would prefer that the practical considerations come first and the visual nonsense is only applied later once the important details are dealt with.
"Designers" are so full of themselves claiming ownership on simple things that require no real creativity at all.
Is that all?
> Simplicity and convenience, maybe. Unless you can spin up a FreeNAS instance with iSCSI, NFS, SMB, and options for apache, MySQL, LDAP, BitTorrent client working fully, with a decent interface within, ooh, twenty minutes? ;-)
Sounds like installing a modern copy of Linux.
Re: Or alternatively...
This very article articulated problems with various brands and models of drives for a particular NAS. If the entire unit goes out, how do you know that you will ever be able to get a completely compatible replacement chassis? That's never a problem with just running a regular OS.
You don't have to write your own NAS software. It's already baked into most modern operating systems.
Building your own puts you in complete control. Simple mods (like SMART alerts) are possible without adding much more bother. The problem with NAS kit is that it represents a market segment that already has to be in the top 1% of geekiness just to be aware of the product.
Re: Beyond RAID
> 4TB in RAID1/5 is already stretching it, 6TB even worse. rebuild times become so ridiculously long....
No not really.
This is not nearly as dire as everyone with zero actual experience wants to make it out to be.
Re: Obvious answer to this is, get a mac
> If you have a problem with a mac, you will find people with the exact same problem, and among them you'll find those who have found a solution.
...unless you manage to use computers in a remotely interesting or creative fashion. Then the wagons start to circle and you get berated and accused of being a pirate.
Re: As the saying goes...
You've got things backwards.
It's his "substitute" that we are rejecting. We are not seeking something different or "better". He's trying to force his sh*t on us without our consent.
It sounds like someone that can't handle being judged based on his merits.
He's been judged harshly by the community so he has to make up some nonsense and lash out. Ironically he's engaging in exactly the sort of juvenile nonsense he's trying to accuse the community at large of. He's making up baseless and wildly inflammatory accusations.
He's trying to exploit similar current media narratives.
Re: Hostile leadership vs hostile software
Pulseaudio is only tolerable because it's trivial to get rid of. If you have some stripped down HTPC machine, you can easily and quickly ditch pulseaudio. SystemD doesn't seem to be like that. It seems to have it's hooks into a lot of things at a low level that makes ripping it out a fatal proposition.
The key feature of Unix is that you can ignore a component that you don't like.
Re: The Linux community has always been this way.
> Apart from it's lack of market share for anything other than web servers and embedded devices/mobile phones.
You mean any market that didn't already have a deeply entrenched monopoly before Linux ever even existed?
Thriving everywhere except DOS legacy apps is not at all bad.
No real surprise here...
This was simply a case of a customer with half a clue. He knew what buttons to push. He knew what people to talk to and what to threaten them with. A lawyer is a pretty good example of someone with that kind of knowledge but apparently being an accountant works too.
Re: Post PC
> No I don't expect you to use the soft keyboard, any more than I expect you to click on the onscreen keyboard on a PC.
Then you simply distorted the tablet until it was something else entirely... a quasi-PC with parts from the last decade (or the one before that) and less choices about available software and less ability to directly control the system.
You're describing a very dedicated attempt to slam a square peg into a round hole regardless of whether it makes an sense or not.
More of the ARM delusion.
ARM devices simply don't have the horsepower either CPU or GPU to displace a real PC. At best you will be looking at some very severe compromises. You will just have to give up on doing some simple basic things that would be trivial with a more powerful machine.
Re: Tablets are neither phones nor PCs
No. The it's the Apple product that introduced the Wal-mart price tag. There is a natural price for these things and Apple found it. They also figured out what kind of cheap hardware they need to put into it in order to make the price point. Since they didn't have a decades long desktop monopoly, they weren't tied to the x86. As a failure at the desktop, they were free to ignore it.
There simply may be no "Herrods" niche when it comes to tables. The same goes for video streamers. Google tried selling a "premium" product and got slapped down in the same way Microsoft did.
It's possible that the price collapse in PCs got everyone used to the idea that hardware should be cheap making it an uphill battle for ANY "premium" option.
Most of us aren't made of money.
Your headline has a critical characteristic missing.
You're forgetting reliability.
Re: Oracle MySQL
MySQL isn't a product. It's a community project. A community requires trust. No amount of slick sales tactics can take the place of trust and respect. Oracle are simply the wrong people to steward something like this. They simply don't get it. They are wrongful on a fundemental level.
Re: Attacks don't matter much
It's 70K machines that have been attacked. Not 70K machines that have been compromised.
World of difference there.
Re: Alistair - glad it's not just me!
You should also have mentioned to that confused youngster that you were basically using 100 year old technology and that your record player could play equally old recordings.
Re: I still buy CDs
Digital is only inferior. At worst, it will come with annoying DRM that will prevent you from fully taking advantage of the product. At best, it will eliminate an easy and obvious way to demonstrate that you actually own rights to use the product.
Re: Oh so true...
> Newsflash: no you don't. You own the media and have a license to listen to the music
Trying to repeat the big lie doesn't make it any more true.
Re: Oh so true...
Still. Port forwarding is little more than "just another GUI option" on most home routers.
Implementing it is pretty trivial.
It just goes to show that shiny happy user interfaces didn't weren't the salvation of the tech-impaired as we often get told they are supposed to be.
Re: Proprietary software vendors - what do they do?
In a large corporation, the likelihood of that is going to be very high actually.
I worked in one Fortune 500 company where they plain had the source for their key enterprise application. They had been maintaining it themselves because it was impossible to replace and would have been desupported by the vendor decades ago.
A megacorp being able to handle the source to bash is not such a strange idea.
What a maroon...
Are you kidding? Anyone that's an Oracle customer has paid hefty coin for the priveledge. That means that Oracle will certainly be able to contact all of them. If this were an issue of sending some sales centric spam, the question of "technologically feasible" would never even come up.
For Oracle in particular, everyone in the trenches that can open a support ticket will have their own registered account with Oracle tied to their corporate email account.
Re: It sucks but..
Nope, just acknowleding that there is no "security" for celebrities. Wealth and fame are directly proportional to the amount of interest and effort people will put into doing you harm. That's just the nature of the world. It's foolish to try and ingore.
You can either whine that the world should change to suit you personally or you can deal with things.
The masses benefit greatly from the ability to be anonymous.
Re: Feminist math
I don't need citations. I have first hand experience. My world simply flatly contradicts your cult of victimhood mentality. Strong women that can take care of business have no problems getting ahead.
Women are actually WORSE when it comes to respecting a professional from their own ranks. Male culture, strangely enough, is more of a meritocracy. There's none of this middle school schadenfreude and tearing the other girl down. Guys will lift a champion on their shoulders rather than be envious of him (or her).
The reality is not quite like the propaganda.
Re: If fat, get tough!
My thought was that there are 80 year old guys that have been doing this stuff all of their lives and they are in better shape than most people their age as well as being able to defend themselves from attackers 1/4 their age.
It's not the Karate.
Re: Flaw in the argument@Dave 126
I can heartily attest to the "dammit I am sick of soup" threshold. Although that's easily fixed by mixing things up a bit.
Re: Flaw in the argument
> By the time you have washed your bakers, peeled them and chipped them
Just wash them, poke some venting holes in them, and throw them in the microwave.
Re: Flaw in the argument
> Even junk food is not that bad if you don't eat too much.
Long ago I realized that the portion sizes at fast food establishments were not sustainable. You either should eat the kids portions (which were the original adult sizes) or cut something out. Do something like just eat the sandwich and forget the fries.
As others have said, getting fat is orthogonal to eating junk.
Re: Flaw in the argument
Nonsense. The price of beef is the price of beef. If you buy it from someone other than a butcher then you have to add in extra overhead associated with that. That kitchen and those tables and chairs and the whole place to house them isn't free. Not even if it's fast food.
Tit for tat you can make anything cheaper yourself. Usually it's dramatically cheaper.
Now GLAMOUR food is more expensive. I can shop at Safeway or Whole Foods. Both will offer equally healthy options. You just have to avoid the obviously trendy nonsense.
Is it the French that make stuff based on what's in season? This can have a dramatic impact on price. You can easily pay 5x for something when it's not quite harvest time or when it's the wrong season and it needs to be flown in from another hemisphere.
Re: The trolls' actions merely prove Watson's point.
This is the Internet. Trolls are a part of the landscape. It doesn't matter who you are or what you are talking about. This particular set of trolls trolling a particular person DEMONSTRATES NOTHING about your pet agenda.
If you troll people, they will respond. Your idea of trolling might not be the same as theirs.
It can be needlepoint. It doesn't have to be anything remotely controversial.
The myth of SSD reliability
I have used a large number of HDDs. The devices are cheap and readily available in a way that SSD doesn't allow for yet. So claims about SSD reliability are mostly wishful thinking at this point.
Plus, such claims also aren't bourne out by actual customer reviews.
Re: An important question : SSD failure modes?
> All the HDDs I had failed completely without warning.
I have only had one HDD fail without warning ever. I've had plenty announce their impending demise through SMART. Based on my own PERSONAL FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE, depending on diagnostics from the drives themselves has not been a dangerous game at all. It's very useful even with notorious models from bad vendors.
Self diagnostics on drives is highly useful. Poo-pooing drives that fail to provide this is unconvincing.
Ignoring this feature is good enough reason to kick a particular SSD brand to the curb.
Re: Humble Pie
> To be fair, I actually do find new mobile phone technology more interesting
Except it's not "new technology". It's just another iteration of something that has been around for awhile now.
> If you don't constantly improve yourself, you lose value. I wouldn't hire someone who wasn't self motivated to keep their skills above and beyond.
...and exactly how am I going to gain practical useful experience and expertise with something that requires a 6 figure storage array or a multi-million dollar piece of kit? Certs and classes and even self-study is pretty worthless. They're worth about as much as the paper they're printed on.
You might be able to BS through an interview with rubes but that's about it. Anyone with half a clue will see that you have no real experience.
Re: Top marks, IBM, top marks . . .
> I wonder how many of the 15,000 cut jobs are expected to be a result of pissed-off 'under-performing' workers walking out?
You think that IBM is actually that sensible? No. It will not be the under performers that get sacked. This is all about the money. The people that are actually worth having around are considered "expensive". The guys with experience with IBM, experience with the client, and a proven track record will be the ones shown the door.
I have personally witnessed this myself.
Also, salary/hour reductions for the outside contractors is nothing new.
It Unix, not just Linux.
> Multiple workspaces was a firmly established feature in Red Hat 7. That's Red Hat Linux, not RHEL, released way back in 2000. That was the first distro I used.
This feature predates Linux entirely.
Re: And does anyone actually use this in Linux? Especially in these days of multiple flatscreens?
The existence of a useful usable virtual workstation feature has made me far less interested in setting up multiple monitors. While I like the idea of grouping Windows by task, I rarely find that I need more than on set of them visible at any one time.
So for me, adding another monitor would just be something to stave off boredom and to see what all the fuss is about ( the feature, the trolling surrounding the feature...).
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