"If the case had any genuine merit surely they'd of filed it ages ago, in many country to stop the phone being released in the first place."

No.. They'd HAVE filed it ages ago.

"so BMW loose no sales"

Wow, their sales aren't loose eh? I guess they won't have to tighten them then!!

Yanks just don't get humor at all.

<sarcasm> Why is the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car? Is the photo reversed? It will never sell in the states like that </sarcasm>

That isn't sarcasm.

Sarcasm would be "Oh that car is going to sell REALLY well in the US..."

What you said was satire, which you get points for, but misrepresenting it as sarcasm puts you right back to square one. Sorry!

Hmmmm

Your appalling spelling aside, you just gave me an idea of how to get both my parents' ADSL speeds up from <1Mb...

Tractor + aluminum wired telegraph pole = new copper lines.

Only Joking. I think.

Er, anyone who reads reference material or instruction manuals, or magazines perhaps.

Not so much when reading novels and jazz mags.

"Am I the only one that fails to see any news in this article? If you are going to mention fansites at least provide some links to back up your "journalism"!"

You Sir are either a humorless moron, or a clueless Yank.

It's called taking the piss. Now begone with your inane prattle.

Nokia and Apple settle THEIR case in a licensing deal this year.

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there = place: "over there"

their = belong: "it is their car"

they're = they are: "They're playing golf"

It's not fucking hard.

Negative

Milestone did not have MotoBlur, and was their flagship phone. They still screwed us over on updates. I don't believe that that Motoblur is an acceptable excuse anyway... HTC have sense for example and they don't have such issues.

I really do hope that Google DO give Moto a big kick in the nuts for dragging their feet, because some of the more rtecent Moto Hardware has been very interesting, however for the moment, until some proof of this is seen, I won't throw Moto a single penny more of my money - frankly, they are lying cheating weasels.

What a beautiful handset

Just a shame it was made by Motorola and will be abandoned as soon as their next shiny shiny comes out.

Burned Milestone user here. I only hope the bigG kicks them into shape.

"Funny how (in comparison) no-one seems concerned driving around with ~100 litres of petrol under their back seats?"

Holy crap, what do you drive? A Bus?

Most cars have a 40-60 Litre tank.

Don't you mean Dumbstruck? ;-)

The theory of relativity DOES NOT say that travelling FASTER than light is impossible.

It states that the energy required to accelerate TO the speed of light increases to infinity.

Or in layman's terms - It's impossible to travel AT the speed of light, but there's nothing to say you can't travel faster.

Of course how you actually get to be faster before travelling AT the speed of light is the tricky bit, and the reason why SciFi references making a JUMP to FTL - i.e. jumping over the light barrier.

"Hydrogen-based cars were sensible, but still have problems of their own."

Yes, Like the fact that Commercial Hydrogen production uses natural Gas (*GASP!* a fossil fuel!)

They don't use electrolysis to crack it out of water, as this is highly inefficient.

Even if they DID use electricity to crack H from O, where would this electricity come from? That's right, Fossil Fuel Power stations, and it would use a SHIT load more electricity that just charging a battery directly..

That is not to say that I don't agree with you. I think Electric-only cars at the moment are not much cop as all-purpose vehicles due to the low range and long charging times.

Hydro may well be the future if they can fix the inefficiency issues of electrolysis... You may end up seeing Wind Turbines and Solar Panels on the roofs of Petrol stations that are there for the purpose of generating Hydrogen from tap water, or something else entirely may pop up on the horizon.

Personally I think Serial Hybrids (Or E-REVs as the marketing droids refer to them as) like the Chevvy/Vauxhaul/Opel Volt/Ampera and the Fisker Karma are the way forward (For Now). But that's just me.

Ideally they should just fix public transport so that it is useful for more than just Londoners who don't know they're born.

I'm pretty sure it means 'stupid' or 'dull', not silly.

Which as a very silly person I see as being a positive thing!!

Err Work phone and personal phone?

Many companies, Mine included demand that you go through your mobile bill and mark off any personal calls so that they can demand reimbursement.

This despite the fact that it maybe takes 30-60 minutes to go through a bill, costing them £10-£20 in wages to reclaim maybe £2-£3 of calls... Ho Hum.

Most people just keep their personal phone as well.

Just because YOU don't have a need for 2 phones, doesn't mean there isn't one.

If IT was easy

We'd be out of a job ;-)

Just use a proxy. All your internet traffic will then come from that IPv6 address which can be routed out over your ADSL link.

Alternatively, ditch your leased line altogether and run a 6to4 tunnel to your other site. With the money saved from your leased line, you can get fatter internet pipes.

Unfortunately the majority of what you are saying here is the typical FUD I hear every day regarding IPv6.

With the upmost of respect - you don't know what you're talking about.

".. but it is (IPv6 not IPv4) and that's why it's been around all those years with zero uptake."

Actually it is very heavily used in academia, military, research and development, and the scientific community. Just as the internet initially grew out as (mostly) a bunch of universities for them to share research - IPv6 is getting pushed from that direction too.

"-Every computer IP-trackable by doubleclick, google, etc? BAD. Effectively, an indelible supercookie."

How is this any different to what you have now? Home / SOHO networks generally all connect to the internet from a fixed / virtually fixed IP address. Larger corporate networks can use host id randomisation, which is actually built into the Windows IPv6 stack by default.

"-Internal IP addresses tied to your ISP, your LAN infrastructure therefore tied to your ISP. Bad idea."

Homes and Small businesses rarely have more than one subnet on the site - the only router on the whole network is the internet gateway, so on the very rare ocassion that they move ISP, you change the LAN IP on the router, and Stateless Autoconfiguration takes care of the rest. DHCP - Just change the scope. If you've used Static IP addresses instead of DHCP reservations, well that's just your own fault, and you obviously have the knowledge to set it again.

Large public sector / corporate networks wouldn't be using ISP provided IP addresses anyway - they would be using Provider Independent address ranges that can move with them as they move providers.

"-Nightmarish scheme for writing IP addresses... imagine giving phone support to a home user."

It will be tough at first I'll give you that - but what do you suggest - represent an IPv6 address in dotted decimal!? The new Hex format is vastly better than using decimal - less space taken up - easier conversion to binary form.

"-How the hell do you tell if your firewall is secure, with so complex a scheme? Dunno. Beyond me, and I'm just the IT guy."

Er - it's actually less complex because you take NAT out of the equation. Your entire internal network is represented as a single prefix, anything else is outside. Your firewall objects will be named anyway.

Not so long ago, when IP was winning the Layer3 wars - all the old Appletalk and IPX/SPX guys were bemoaning IP "Oh.. it's too complicated" "The old way was better" And at about that time people were getting paid 6-figure sums to go and carry out the migrations. IPv6 is going that way - and I'm seriously looking forward to it, because I'm one of those guys who is hopefully going to be getting paid obscene amounts of money to do IPv6 rollouts, because everyone else is too scared to look at it properly.

IPv6 is the monster in the cupboard - scary as hell. Until you open the cupboard and find that there's no monsters at all - it's just John Goodman is a big fluffy blue suit.

NO!

Fuck that shit. No Adverts, thanks, I like my sanity.

Sorry, but the fail is yours.

You only think NAT is a security measure because you've probably only ever experienced it on firewalls or SOHO routers. And this isn't even true NAT (Network Address Translation) it is actually PAT (Port Address Translation) or NAT Overload, depending on who you did your network studies with.

If you run NAT or PAT only on a router for example, and have no firewall or ACLs in place, then there is very little security added.

People (even some security 'professionals' I've worked with) operate under the false pretence that by having a device accessible by a different IP address than is configured on the device itself is somehow more secure. It isn't. FACT. It's the firewall rules that exist on the device that did the NATing that are protecting you.

I completely agree with you and feel your anguish...

"Well in a roundabout way it will, sponsorship is the key, if viewing figures drop, so does the teams income, the sad fact of the matter is the UK is but a drop in the ocean for viewing figures meaning Bernie could care less as long as he gets money."

...but it's COULDN'T care less, god damn it! ;-)

Me neither, but I do RECORD live TV so I can FF through the adverts. You need a License if you watch or record live TV. Full Stop, end of story.

If you genuinely don't watch or record ANY live TV, e.g. if you just have a TV for Playing console games. Then you just have to let the BBC know, and they leave you alone.

Personally, I'm happy to pay for the BBC - it works out to about £12 a month, for frankly, the best stuff on the telly. (excluding Dead-Enders) and NO Adverts!!

I pay nearly £50 for my Sky subscription a month AND I still have to watch the Fucking adverts (Well, I don't as like I said previously I just record and FF through them).

I'd happily pay £100/m to not have to watch adverts... maybe we'll get there... one day.

Try watching TV while IN America

I *felt* like a Demented Gerbil after trying to watch a film... I can't believe that level of advertisement is legal over there... Thank F**k we don't get that much.

Eh?

"did you ever here of anyone getting fined because they have 5 TVs on one licence? Just as much against the law."

Complete drivel - a License covers the address for as many devices as you like, but doesn't cover lodgers rooms, flats in the same building etc.

Business Licenses cover up to 15 devices. If you they more than 15 devices then you need an additional license for each additional 5 devices.

Also those bemoaning the plight of the OAPs... Those over 75 get it for free (Although I personally think this should be 65, the same as the bus pass), and those in a care home get it for £7.50

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/tv-licence-types-and-costs-top2/

And by the way - it's HEAR not here.

You mean like anyone who has a Linux box at home and knows their way around SSH tunnels can? ;-)

New here huh?

As title.

You buy parts from the dealer?

You made of money?

"The 3-finger salute is something you traditionally give to a WINDOWS(tm) box not a Linux box "

Actually it's a generic PC thing - 3 finger salute works during POST too you know - it wasn't invented by M$

Every Linux box I've used for the past 10 Years+ has had CTRL-ALT-DEL mapped to either "shutdown -h now" or "shutdown -r now"

Saves you having to logon see.

Tough titties AC - don't be such a coward, and you get your pretty pictures back.

"and a block for all comments containing "could of"? Please."

ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

Also a way to block people for the incorrect use of:

their / there / they're

too / to / two

its / it's

How about a grammar down-vote button? Get 100 of these and you have to suffer a "This poster is a moron" icon on all posts for 1 month!

I'm not talking about people who obviously don't have English as a first language - that's acceptable.

Oh, and people who say "I could care less" should just be shot on the spot.

Not everywhere

For example, Scarborough (01723) spans quite a few exchanges, including 3 or 4 in Scarborough itself, Filey and Hunmanby, plus several outlying ones.

You can still dial the 6 digits from anywhere within the 01723 area and get that number.

Not quite

Velv: "You simply dial the last 6 (or 7 for some cities) digits."

Actually in several large cities, including London, Cardiff & Southampton, it's a 3 digit area code, with an 8 digit number.

I think N.I is now one big area code now too.. 027 or 028... I don't remember.

I wouldn't be surprised if the place that this story refers to simply moves to a 3Digit area code instead.