@acerimmer Fail, check the words decent and fair. (i3 for £460) This situation is improving now, it was only a couple of years ago when none were available. I am talking no OS with no support for chosen OS, like they do with servers. @ac Ignoring the patent system abuse then?
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In the UK, one cannot buy a decent X86 laptop, at a fair price, without paying the Microsoft tax (they also tax Android).
The only place where there is true choice between Microsoft (Bing) and somebody else (Google), the competition win.
One can choose any search engine, but there is little choice with PCs.
As others have said thgis will only cost us, the consumers.
@ test man the Microsoft monopoly's Windows Eight desktop is full of bing ... it is hard to avoid.
[Insert your choice of standard "Microsodt defence" comments from the usual suspects here]
Thank you dogged.
I take your points, just as you would respect Eden's view. Are you trying to re-write history?
I've just helped someone with an Acer Win8 laptop, he got at Christmas, it had pokki on it. Malwarebytes removed alot of spyware. He didn't know what pokki was and said he didn't click on it. The desktop was full of pups like Wild Tangent. He has just emailed back saying he is getting ads from Strong Signal ... anybody know that? This was an i3 with 3GB ram and it was slow. I don't know how people have the patience for the monopolist's OS.
1 on shark in fish tank
some laser diodes in the bits box, they are good to play with.
First time seeing a laser, was a physics presentation in the school assembley hall on the properties of light. when I was 13.
I was looking for the market penetration problems.
I had a customer ring me up and say "I have just let this Indian chap on my PC, should I have?" This is an intelligent ex school head master.
What is the best way a "victim" can harm the caller cost wise? Presumably just extending the call. Any other ideas?
Although some of those servers are specialised, I would imagine alot of those servers are just file and mail servers that will just migrate without problem. One of my new customers has one and probably does not even know what it does. I will just migrate his stuff to a linux server.
"Sadly, WebM never really caught on"
... because of patents?
@ Anonymous Bullard IE is part of the operating system, that is to say you have paid for it just like you paid for notepad. Microsoft do not give.
Thanks to Firefox the Web is not owned or controlled by the monopolist.
Wonder if the EU will follow now.
Get the Facts
Microsoft Windows has short limited lifetime.
"Amazing new technologies were pouring out of Microsoft, and Redmond appeared to be listening to its customers." :D
@El-Fev ... you don't live anywhere near the east end of the A66 by chance?
I can't see how they can get payment without being traced. I know CryptoLocker uses bitcoin but I don't think the police ones do.
I also wish those horrible people at Microsoft would do an update where the default "Hide known extensions" is not ticked.
"Get the facts"
Remember the "Get the facts" by Microsoft all about the total cost of ownership. The escalating cost of XP prove the FUD.
RE:From a Nexus 4 owner
I also don't have a problem with the glass back, but would not miss it.
It would be nice to have a phone that can receive telephone radio signals though.
(Admittedly I'm on 3).
If you at El Reg review it, can you please also review its capability as a telephone.
My Nexus 4 is useless in low signal areas, and as I am on 3, that means most of the country.
On wikipedia Mr Pitbull endorsed the Kodak brand :)
@The Original Steve
Give your ill manners a rest.
"virtually every laptop running Windows "just works""
@ForthIsNotDead ... speed it up. A 1980's BBC micro is at the command prompt within 8 seconds. I know Windows has graphics etc, but there must be loads of room for improvement. Make it more secure, less susceptible to viruses, reduce bloat etc.
But that would go against the monopolist's way.
'under the bonnet' ... slow
Customers bring their new laptops to me to remove the manufactures crud. I have a new Acer Aspire here now with an i5 and 4GB memory and it is slow. 8 minutes to remove Wild Tangent games. There is also all the 'Bing' crud to remove now. The start button is still there it is just spread all over the desktop. Before I installed the usual apps like LibreOffice, I looked at the winsxs folder ... 7GB.
The bloat and slowness would be my main complaints if I had to use it.
Balmer is doing well here, he gets to sell the same stuff twice like he did with Vista and Seven.
@Sandpit different product / market
@Mike Tyler Looking at my Farnell bill £66 for two inc VAT and delivery
@Anonymous Coward 15 the i/o is NOT 5V tolerant
Glossy screen no ethernet port.
@El Andy Your analogies are wrong.
There is no cost for Android.
The Ferrari one is just stupid. May be a Ferrari that only takes Esso petrol.
If bing were in google's position
Imagine if bing was successful, the monopolist domination would be complete.
Win 8 has a load of 'bing' default apps, IE 9 is by default littered with bing.
Re: Wah Wah Wah
Why are the M$ shills always anonymous?
If as MacGyver says is true, then M$ tax one has paid is lost (assuming laptops).
unfair tax also
Have a large family with couch potatos, it is great value for money. For a single person who rarely watches, it is poor value for money.
@ ac 10:01 yes .. remember the £18M Ross affair and the proposed cuts for the great Radio 6, but we are not forced to pay it. @vimes ... unlikely.
I don't have a TV or licence, but am feeling a little guilty as I am sat here listening to the BBc's most expensive radio transmission!
Similar position to Tom 7
Used to get a little under 2Mb now ~1Mb due to sodden ground, higher water table, etc. 2Mb is not bad for 6 miles though, I'm ~6km from the exchange. You may be on a new pair, but have a thougth for the poor sods that have your old pair! The people with the best wires are the ones that complain the most.
Re: Plenty of hardware available.
Nothing should ever be said against your beloved corporation.
just had some nice tastey chicken.
road tax for bikes
Most cyclists own a car therefore pay road tax and are doing less damage than no cycling car owners.
@bodhi It is not 'petty' when rootkit removal costs the customer.
It is not 'petty' when something is bought in good faith with one paticular feature in mind.
Not a corporation to trust now.
Will nominet get more dosh if / when Scotland gets independence.
foo.sco ... etc
Or may be Ukraine could get .uk.
Does any genuine person know what the few ACs mean by most calls don't touch the BT network? Is it something to do with BT wholesale not being BT or something?
Have a good weekend all.
I blame the BT monopoly for most of these problems. I call my brother in NL he knows who is calling. My brother calls me all I get is "International". I pay additional for caller id, he does not.
If hardware / firmware can be destroyed by software then that hardware is not fit for purpose.
Khaptain, you got downvoted because you do not understand the difference between firmware and software. Your comparison between this and chipping a BMW is laughable.
The free in this instance obviously relates to freedom as the MS tax has already been paid.
The ACs got alot of bites from this thread. If any of them are serious, I hope they are not in technical jobs.
Wonder how long before the Chernobyl/CIH/Sammy strikes?
The extra storage will be required for the ever expanding side-by-side folder
Dell's penguin boxes are already underpowered, overpriced ... hence include the MS tax.
Thanks Alan Cox.
Are we all free to use this term? .. or may be FaceTwatting is better.
@ Anonymous Coward 12:26 I just did a google search on your name .. I'm afraid your social on-line presence is massive!
I got an Odroid-x and the hidden Fedex charges put it to > £120.
X86 is still cheaper, look at atom boards, AMD's low power stuff and old PCs, if you forget about power usage.
hidden from addd remove programs
What got me about the pinball was why was it hidden from add/remove programs in XP?
Because of this I always removed it (edit sysoc.inf) from customers computers, thinking it was some sort of MS spyware.
.. and Gates had the nerve to call Linux 'Pacman'
May be a way around using Apple's patent would be to throw your phone on an inductive cooker to charge.
Instead of 20 years for a patent, 5 years would be more fair.
If you don't trust the corperations then owncloud is getting very good now.
Why do all the comentards say stupid USPTO, I would have thought they would more likely be corrupt than stupid. They are patent lawyers with qualifications I presume. I don't know .. I'm not a yank.