2226 posts • joined 8 May 2007
bgi bucket of win
he shall be missed
Re: Oooo, the shiny!
The rather ungainly equivalent spec, but vastly cheaper, boxes from HP and Dell
Care to elaborate? As previously described, the equivalent spec from Dell costs at least 250 quid more than the MacPro.
On the HP UKStore website, the equivalent product with the same processor is the HP Z420
The cheapest of these is £1322 inc vat
The be equivalent, you'll need to get a SSD to replace the SATA hard drive. The Crucial website doesn't list any compatible SSDs with this HP, but lets assume the one they recommended for the Dell above will work. So that's 400 quid you need to spend.
It doesn't come with any graphics cards. They do include a NVIDIA Quadro K2000 with the really expensive model, so we'll assume that is equivalent to the AMD FirePros that the MacPro comes with. So you'll need to buy two of those. All the non-ebay prices i found were over 400 each, so to be equivalent spec you'll need two: £800+
So you're "equivalent spec, but vastly cheaper" solution from HP will be £1322 + 400 for disk + 800 for graphics cards = £2522
So you are absolutely correct sir, for a value of "vastly cheaper" = "spend £23 more"
Re: Will be getting one - probably
just as long as I win tonight's EuroMillions...
Re: Oooo, the shiny!
Really? cos i'm looking at the Dell.co.uk website right now, and there's only three options with the same processor, and only the £1600 takes the same speed memory.
But it also only comes with one graphics card. I can't find a uk price for the AMD FirePros that come with the MacPro, but lets assume you'll get equivalent performance from the card Dell supplies. So you'll need to buy a second one. Scan.co.uk are selling those for £750.
And a SATA hard drive, not a SSD.
There's no option to swap the HD for a SSD, so to get the "equivalent spec" you'll need to buy a 3rd party one and then swap it over yourself. Crucial sell one for this Dell Precision for 400 quid.
Plus Dell insist on giving you a pointless optical drive - and it's not configured horizontally so you can't even use it as a coffee cup stand!
So that's the 1600 you said, plus 750 for a 2nd graphics card, plus 400 for the SSD, and THEN you get close to the "equivalent spec" that you stated.
I believe that totals to £2750, which is £250 MORE than the "equivalent spec" MacPro.
yep, gotta hate that Apple Tax that gives money back to you
(oh, and i forgot about the six Thunderbolt 2 ports. So you'll need to add a six-port PCI-e card I guess? I google'd and found one for £350, but there was also a refubished one on ebay for only 200 notes)
Some really strange things have occurred
I think a lot them work in my office!
A problem Apple faces is maintaining the share price
Is this a problem that Apple faces, or a problem that people who have bought Apple shares face?
If Apple's share price remains the same or drops a bit, but they are still making the most profit (http://news.investors.com/technology-click/021114-689654-2014-mobile-phone-market-to-see-little-or-no-growth.htm) then is it really a problem for the company itself (sure, the upper management will be disappointed as part of their pay is in shares/options isn't it?) but the company isn't going to be unable to function because the share price drops. It's not even as if they need a high share price / rating to allow them to borrow more money - they just dip into the huge cash reserves.
Is this for new orders only? or are existing orders having their estimated shipping dates changed?
Not like people are lining up for these things
If it is just that if you place a new order now, it won't ship to April (which is how I understood it when the news first broke yesterday) then it would seem that people are, in fact, lining up for them faster than Apple can build them.
Re: Toyota Update?
can you jailbreak your Prius and install a Ferrari instead?
+1 for Borough Market recommendation
I used to work on the opposite side of the River and we'd go there for Friday lunch some weeks. Fresh cooked burgers at the butchers and then a pint or two in the pub before heading back to the office to avoid doing any work until hometime.
oh those were the days....
Re: Apple //c was not bad
Yep my dad had a //c and I got his old ][e in my bedroom to learn programming Logo on.
But I much preferred to mess around on the //c. As you say, keyboard was much nicer, and it was portable enough to move it from his office to the dinning table from time to time.
"Court slaps Apple"?
It's not really a slap, is it?
The court have restricted the monitor to only asking questions and for evidence that relates to the business he is there to monitor.
Surely this was the strategy of Apple's legal team. Ask for something outrageous, like getting rid of the monitor all together, and instead the court has agreed to what they really want, which is the monitor not having carte blanche on what he can look at.
+1 for the Gently +1
I wish he'd written more of those books, they were brilliant.
The tv show from a year or two ago was okay, but not quite there.
no no, quite the opposite.
tomAYto/potAYto : tomARto/potARto : analystPREdictions/bullsHIt
i was agreeing, they're all just different ways of pronouncing nasty vegetables that aren't as tasty as a healthy hamburger
Bullshit : Analyst prediction
you say potato, i say tomato....
Re: console kings Nintendo
like a family or a team
yes, but not like families or teams, yes?
console kings Nintendo
Yes, all of them.
My name is Nintendo, for we are legion!
(evidently proof-reading before publishing is a forgotten art in these days of the internet)
Can't we set up a kickstarter or something then for TNMOC?
If each El Reg reader gives them a fiver, it might help them out a bit?
Or if they completely blow past the target amount and end up with millions, maybe they can afford to set up their own gate, a bit in front of the Bletchley Park gate, with a tunnel (a la Steve McQueen) bypassing the Trust's entrance and so charge their own admission directly themselves?
Re: Note he said *Contracted* Developers.
Kickstarter is like gambling. It is definitely not like Amazon.
Only play with money you are prepared to lose.
Then, if the project fizzles, you've only lost what you were happy to loose. and if it's successful, then you get a reward that you were not expecting :)
some of them believe they are buying
this is a common problem with all KickStarter campaigns. i seems the average Joe Public has no idea how it really works, and then cry when some of the things they've pledged for fail to appear
damnit - i was so excited that you were going to say the other craft belonged to the Quagaars!!!
so excited, i didn't even read the sub-headline until it was too late
end up badly for the consumers
but, this has been going on for some time already, and yet, given the choice, you still picked an S4 over the competition, and you're happy with it.
so far, then, consumers are unaffected - it's only the people working in the law courts that must be sick of hearing all the technical jargon again and again each week.
Personal Computer - the term is OS and manufacturer agnostic. It's not a trademark for a machine that runs windows or linux or BeOS or.....
a fine job!
i saw the teaser for this on Twitter yesterday, and it did not disappoint!
Team Register ?
Seems like a very lightweight article to have required the collaborative efforts of the whole team? Was it one sentence per person?
but what is 'wrong' in the eyes of Ikea?
Buying your sofa from DFS? Getting a bedside table from John Lewis?
Re: All your computer data for an online tool, or...
but, to be fair, in return for your soul, they will give you meatballs!!
(some even without horsemeat!)
He says in the article that it was only Chrome browser that picked it up. If you weren't using Chrome, it wouldn't ask for permission.
Re: Floppy Eject
And we all know software never fails
Sure, if there was a crash, you're floppy disk was still in there when the machine booted. And if it wasn't a bootable disk, the machine would automatically eject it, and then it would continue to boot. What's the problem?
Re: Wired ethernet is not a rarity for laptops
in our office, only the ethernet ports that are in use are enabled. ethernet is all locked down, i guess they don't want anyone just wandering in and plugging their laptop into the network.
and even then, they're hidden under floor panels or in the cable runs underneath the middle of each set of desks, so even if you can get the networks team to switch one on for you, it's a right pain in the proverbal to find out what it's number is, let alone get an ethernet cable plugged in.
whereas the wireless shows up, and works with the same user/pass that i log into my work pc with.
far, far easier to use for the general user.
Re: Floppy Eject
Oops I left the disk in the MAC when I powered off. Darn now I have to power up again.
Not a problem with a Mac, because when you powered it down, it would eject the disc before it shut down. That's because the eject was software driven, not reliant upon a mechanical device.
Re: Floppy Eject
it also had an extra key on the keyboard that nothing else had.
and here i am at work, in 2014, looking at the keyboard, and there's this "windows" key, which no other operating system has a use for.....
and a right-click menu button too for some reason
Re: Floppy Eject
I hunted around the operating system
Not very far then? It would have been right there in the Special menu!
From that moment onwards I hated Macs and still do.
Good grief!! whatever you do, don't visit a foriegn countries then - you'll hate everyone you meet, they speak a totally different language!!
my dad had one of those, which inevitably i pinched whenever i could, and looking at the picture, surprising how much i miss the old thing. real pang of nostalgia.
yes, my macbook air totally out classes it these days, in every respect. but back in those days, it was a very nice machine to use, very capable, and it ran and ran and ran without a hitch until long past the point when we should have upgraded to the more powerful machine.
Because at least in part it's *his* company
Are you sure you aren't confusing the difference between shares and stock?
The headline says shares - although possibly El Reg is confusing the two?
Or maybe it's Icann that's confused the two and thinks he has more rights than he really does.
Stock means you have a piece of ownership. Shares just mean you've given the company some money in the past to increase it's capital then, in the hope that in the future the company is worth more so you'll receive more money back when the share matures (or you sell it on to someone else for a profit in the mean time).
Shares - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share_%28finance%29
Stock - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock
easy and cheap for the company to borrow the money
Which makes no financial sense.
They're sitting on a big pile of money.
Not only is he suggesting they give it away, to people including himself, but that they incur debt by borrowing to do it.
I understand his motives. He just wants to get richer, quicker, instead of running the risk that the market's natural movements may devalue his stock or may increase it's value, but both other a period of time.
What I don't understand is why any company in the past has paid attention to him?
It's not like they owe him anything is it? That how buying stock works. Your reward for taking the risk in investing is if the market goes up before you sell them.
didn't K-9 always refer to The Doctor and his companions by Master and Mistress?
K-9, everyone's lovable metallic dog, was a Marxist???
Re: Goodnight Earth. Goodnight humans
yeah it was Def Con One i was thinking of: "Goodbye city, hello Moon!"
But if we ever get around to making another golden disc with the best examples of human culture and sending it out amongst the stars, then Beaver Patrol should definitely be on there :)
Goodnight Earth. Goodnight humans
that reminds me of a PWEI song
Re: Yutu be or not to be....
but where's the kaboom? there's supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
Re: Ok, you've lost me
maybe it means that neither need to worry about being sued by each other, and so just need to worry about suits with everyone else. One less team of lawyers to pay for on each side.
i'd happily pay more
as long as it meant more than 3 episodes of Sherlock per season, and Top Gear specials at Xmas instead of at some random time a month or two later.
and less bloody eastenders
It's right there in the article, you just need to take a minute to read it before commenting:
"Roughly 80 per cent of people say they would keep paying for the BBC if the cost was no different to the licence fee," said Elstein. Around 40 per cent would pay double and 10 per cent of licence fee payers would pay treble.
Take it with a pinch of salt. the WSJ only says it got the info from "people familiar with the situation"
Which probably means the Digitimes article last week. And THAT one cited "sources" in the manufacturing plants, but no one specific.
And it's been proven that a Digitimes articles are nearly always wrong:
Apple seem to be ignoring him so he's working through the rest of his portfolio and giving them a poke with a stick to see if they'll do as he asks regardless of whether it is in the companies best interest, or just his.
Is he trying to make quick profits on his investments? Or maybe he just like seeing his name in the headlines?
That is the problem - to the average user, it's a great social gaming system, just like the Wii they bought a few years ago, which they already have lots of games for.
The small improvements and features that the U offers over the Wii are mostly only appreciated by gamers... who aren't interested in the social or kid games and who will have got a "serious" gaming platform instead
Re: So so far away
i think they already have, but none of the closer ones have stars in this configuration AND signs of planets, so they've had to widen the search.
technically, not an alien world
belonging to a foreign country or nation.
But - if there's no one living on the rock, then it doesn't belong to anyone.
So ripe for the picking - we claim it as our own - put a sign up that says "Twinned with Earth - please drive carefully" and maybe go there for a summer holiday.
Re: Call me Mr Sceptical
Communication might be difficult - water is believed to be one of the key requirements for life, no? And if you are hoping to communicate with non-water based lifeforms, then methods of communication could be extremely complicated.
unfortunately, it's far too close to its host for any liquid water to exist there.
So a good thing that they weren't bought by Facebook then.
people's reaction unexpected?
Interesting article at theVerge... not so much on the purchase, as on everyone's reaction to it. A few years ago, most people who have had a positive response to it. Google seem to have lost a lot of people's trust.
Instead, there’s a chorus of concern — some sincere, some contrived, but all of it grounded in fear of an unchecked Google.
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