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how does the first to file thing work?
Apple's patent was filed in 2006...
it has an icon? is that it? do you have to swipe your finger across the screen to drag the icon and so unlock the screen?
because, if you had _read_the_article_ it says that "Motorola's Xoom tablet, as that uses a drag-finger-outside-circle unlocking which is sufficiently different from Apple's approach"
So having an icon to unlock the screen is also not the same thing as the iPhone's "drag to unlock" finger swipe motion.
Re: Isn't the bigger question
> How does adding a few utilities make this a new OS release?
This isn't all there is to it. the Reg article has chosen to only highlight the changes that are most likely to get people frothing at the mouth.
The cool and interesting stuff they've neglected to mention. Plus, this is only based on the pre-release beta code that Apple have chosen to release. Apparently there are over 100 changes in the final version, but Apple have only announced the 10 that feature more integration between your OS X desktop/laptop and iOS mobile device
> unless you can be bothered to dismiss warnings
What's this? El Reg scaremongering for the sake of pandering to the penguin fiddlers and android fanciers? say it ain't so?
all that great journalism that went on last year with the tsunami issue and highlighting the poor sensationalist reporting in the rest of the journalistic world, and here you've gone and done exactly the same thing, skimming the facts to generate the mass hysteria we've seen in all of the above postings.
<pub landlord>shame on you El Reg, shame on you!</pub landlord>
Surely, if you're not smart enough to know that you can't Facebook and drive at the same time, then we really don't need you in the same genepool as the rest of us, and we'd be grateful that you remove yourself by smashing your car into the nearest tree, bridge, hole in the ground, etc etc.
where does it say that Apple published these images? or provoked the "Chinese news site" into going and taking them?
didn't they just discover the smallest frog a few months ago, also under a leaf?
possible, boffins should try looking under more leaves, there might be miniature pandas and elephants and hobbits and all sorts under there!
Re: Can someone enlighten me?
I took it to mean that Proview only applied for and registered the rights in 10 countries. So their worldwide rights is equal to just 10 countries.
In the rest of the countries not including those 10, then Proview have no rights to the trademark and Apple was able to claim it without contention.
HK court's ruling seems quite damning against Proview
"The court said, in its findings, that Proview, its subsidiaries and at least one other company had combined together "with the common intention of injuring Apple," by breaching the agreement over the iPad name. The court, calling the event a conspiracy, further said Proview had "attempted to exploit the situation as a business opportunity," by asking for money."
to make it, you need to cut down more trees, and it's going to be difficult to get the paper back out to recycle?
doesn't sound _that_ environmentally friendly to me
sure the javelin event would have been perfect for broadcasting in 3D, no?
i shall wait for the super powers along with the rest of the hoi poloi next week. i came here just looking for a free cookie!! :(
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<Count> five! ha ha ha ha </Count>
Re: Match your wage scales.
so if you build 3 ipads in a day, you can afford a nice restaurant meal that night?
and lets face it, these guys aren't soldering the components, it's fitting together parts into the ipad casing. so you can probably build 10, 20, 30 a day? once you get used to it, I think 20 a day should be easy. so that's quite a good wage then, by comparison.
really needs a comparison to how much workers in factories for other products get.
workers in south korea get 6 times the pay of those in china. are they doing the same role? or are the ones in china just bolting together the screens and the boards and the casing and putting them in boxes, and the south korea workers are fabricating the LCDs? it'd be a great world if we were all paid exactly the same regardless of the work we did, but that's not how it works.
because Proview only registered the trademark in 10 countries, so that is the worldwide extent of their ownership of the trademark.
Dominos emailed me details of their special Valentines Day offer (free chocolate cake desert i think it was) and I scoffed that anyone would have the guts to order in pizza tonight. congratulations sir, you're a far braver man than i!
would be awesome to get Lego LOTR ps3 game
the Star Wars and Indiana Jones ones were brilliant, tongue in cheek, adaptations.
was also going to note that the Hobbit figures are going to be completely the wrong scale
also, why is Helm's Deep the large set? surely a full working model of Minas Tirith, or Mount Doom would contain many many more pieces. and be quite awesome too.
i hope they do a Isengard set, if only so that then someone will inevitably do a youtube video of a Lego version of the "They're taking the hobbits to Isengard" song/video/meme which cracks me up everytime I see it... almost as much as the "What's tatters?" one...
research into girl-centric relationships
that's a relief, I thought you were going to say it was company set up to breed happy lesbian Labrador dogs....
how big are Proview?
Because, the loss of business to Foxconn and Pegatron etc etc could be more damaging to the Chinese economy than a small trademark license?
needs more V. Stob books
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1.7 inches really a big difference?
I don't see how going from the 9.7 inches of the current iPad screen, down to 8" will really make that much difference, unless they're also making the screen go edge to edge. and if they did, why wouldn't they also do the same with the big iPad?
8" just doesn't seem to be enough of a difference from the existing model to make it appealing to all those that believe the iPad is too big for their needs
i quite agree. the story doesn't actually tell us what was said between the companies. it could well be that apple said "we're going to need X time more casing for the new macbook range" to which pegatron replied "we can't fill that order until after march because we're committed to producing X units for Asus" and apple answered "fine, in April, we'll add those X to our current order of Y... or we can take X+Y to another supplier"
there might not have been any specific threats, just standard business practice.
will the US employees work for the same wages? and in the same conditions? somehow, i seriously doubt it. otherwise, companies would be using the US (or anywhere else in the west) for manufacture.
these companies aren't getting their products made in china to spite the US workforce, y'know. it's pure economics and capitalist forces at work. they're bid for the work is cheaper, so they get the work. if you want the jobs to be in the us, then set up a manufacturing plant that can produce the same components/parts at the same quality or less, then Apple will switch to using you as a supplier
top effort that man!!
now, if only someone could explain what those other El Reg twitter accounts are for - and should I follow all of them? or just the main one?
really, i'm getting the last one for myself if the missus doesn't...
to give it strength in the courts, perhaps. without the thick borders, Apple are certain to cite the casing design as a copy of their trademarked design
perhaps. but most certainly, thanks to google's rush to be first to bring this to the market, it'll be coming a bit later than perhaps it would have otherwise
you know what they when you assume....
> The launch, we assume, is Apple's hyped refreshed TV device.
I thought McRumors theory was far more likely, that the short stock just points to a new version of the Apple TV external device that'll support the hi-res videos that the new iPad is apparently going to be capable of.
IF they are going to be releasing full television sets next month, why would they be running down stock of the Apple TV unit? There's clearly two seperate markets, one are the people that'll pay many hundred of pounds/dollars on a television with the Apple TV interface running on it, and the other those who already have expensive televisions that do not need replacing just yet, who'll happily pick up a hockey-puck type device for $99 to get the same functionality. It doesn't make sense that Apple would be replacing the £99 peripheral device with a $999 lcd television.
I just watched the previous week's TopGear where they went to China and were looking at all the car fakes. And how BMW had tried to sue over the fake X5 (or whatever it was) that looked identical to their model, and they lost the case because the Chinese courts ruled that there were no similarities at all.
I'll admit, Apple can be a bit over zealous, but it seems crazy over there, you haven't got a chance of winning unless you're a Chinese company.
i'm intending to unfollow and then follow over and over again when it gets really close, so even though i've been following for ages, i still get a chance at being the #10k :)
ignoring that it's an apple patent for a moment...
...but this seems like a very nice idea for a UI on a small screen.
If there's all these prior art examples, why hasn't anyone gone ahead and produced a phone with a UI where, instead of sliding left and right to get to more app icons, or background apps, etc, you move through the depth dimension. I think it'd be a very cool to see, and very intuitive to use interface.
maybe there is quality on youtube, but i have.... seven devices already that i can watch youtube with, and those are just the ones within easy reach of my sofa where i'm watching telly at the moment. if i'm prepared to get up and walk around my flat there's even more. why do google think i'm going to pay for another one?
for google to make money on this, they'll have to sell not only analytics on our tv watching patterns, but also bombard our screens with advertisments. no thanks.
plus, is this article seriously suggesting that YouTube is the video content that they going to be driving this product's roll out with? they'll need a lot more than 30 second clips of talking dogs or kids off their heads on novocane.
yes, massive joke - I use it everyday, and the media I can't stream to it I send to the PS3 instead. But the AppleTV is the device of preference because it's so much quicker to start up and begin playing that the PS3 is.
i don't get it
So i can see how this TLD will be great for musicians and labels and publishers and whatnot.
But do they assume that the general public is only going to look for music on .music and won't look anywhere else?
It's not going to stop pirating. But I guess it will stop someone setting up a site to look like an official one and perhaps phish for people's details?
no more shopping?
that sucks, as I regularly used that feature.
then again, i knew this day would come, when they changed it's name from "froogle" to "shopping"
shall be giving duckduckgo a try out this weekend then
hat off to the man. this is a valuable life lesson not only in actions and consequences but also in the perils of social media. this is top parenting in action and i hope one day to follow his example.
i like the touchscreen dash
i like the lcd screen for the drivers display
i very much like the gullwing doors (with the exception that i'd never be able to get our of my car if the cars on either side of my parking bay were present)
but i don't like the look of the car at all. are all electric cars going to look so ugly? it's got frikken gull wing doors, why doesn't it at least look a bit like a deloran?
I quite like my normal wallet, thanks, I don't think I'll be using any of this NFC malarky any time soon until all these issues have been ironed out.
we all know the patent system over there is broken, and it makes it so easy for patent troll firms to thrive. there needs to be a change. patent trolling needs to be recognised as a criminal activity, it is, afterall, practically a form of extortion. so that way, if a company feels they are being trolled, they could counter-sue with the charge of patent trolling ("seeking to pervert the course of commerce and innovation" or whatever the legalese term would be). And such a charge should carry the death penalty. This would both cause companies think twice before attempting to troll, and also reduce the number of active patent trolls out there too.
questions about this survey
survey was by US Consumer Electronics Association - so totally unbiased then? :)
And I note there is a lack of specifics in the report:
- "expressing an interest in electronic kit" and
- "they were especially keen on devices"
Are these "electronic kits" and "devices" the sort of thing they sell in Maplin? or the kind of things they keep at the back of the Ann Summers shops?
+1 for the win
this - we're all tech savvy types, we should all be able to set up something similar and seriously skew their results
bit of common sense
a) it's obvious that the tweet wasn't meant as a serious threat
but b) equally, you've gotta be pretty stupid in this day and age to make a public announcement about blowing up an airport
so both sides are at fault here, imho
the company said that if [things that cost us money] were excluded it would've have presented shareholders with [still a loss of a lot of money]
that's not good news however you spin it
celebrities and newspaper people
The problem, then, is our scientists are, as Pete 2 says above, "white-coated, bespectacled, bearded, geeks"
We need more celebrity scientists, who can command space within our newspapers and our tv shows and the public's mind, and from there can push the reasoned scientific arguments and evidence. Who doesn't enjoy the programmes that Brian Cox makes, explaining complex science in a way that non-scientists can appreciate. Science's very own Amy Pond, Dr Alice Roberts, is infinitely watchable and again, able to explain the science without losing the rest of us. We need more celebrity-type scientist to be in our daily lives. Then the public will start listening to what they have to say, and then there's a chance to public also pay attention to what they're saying as well.
no thanks. am sure they'll start charging for it once enough people start using it
oh i want one, i want one!!!!
where's the cake?
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