You very well may have more/better info than me - I certainly don't follow all de Icaza's activities. What I meant by "higher level" was a (perhaps naive) intuition that his guiding philosophies are about encouraging interoperability on many levels and accruing power and ease of use - by any means necessary - for unix-like operating systems. My take on him was that he is immensely practical and not ideological. Of course, I could be wrong. My link to Hoffman's post was intended to ally fears; the way I see it, if MS wants to focus on Silverlight as the UI for their cloud apps and doesn't in fact care much about trying to beat Flash at its own game, then, in a sense, we can stop worrying about Silverlight! This because I see it getting restricted to their insular (and therefore doomed) attempt to capitalize on "the cloud."