17 posts • joined Sunday 19th October 2008 00:08 GMT
Synology - are you receiving me... ?
QNAP at least talk to me (as do most of the other NAS vendors). I can't get any response from Synology, even though they're shipping our stuff embedded in their OS (see here:
for their source code - it's got Samba 3.6.x). Trevor, if you have any contacts at Synology that might want to talk to the people who create their SMB1/SMB2/SMB3 server, please send 'em my way. I don't bite, I'll even give them advanced notice of our security fixes (I do for all the other vendors :-) and help them fix any customer issues they might have. I have tried to find someone there to talk to, but got no joy :-(.
Time to remind people of the real purpose of DRM.
Everyone seems to forget - it's nothing to do with controlling pirates or users, it's to keep the device makers brought to heel to protect obsolete business models.
Hicksie nails it here:
Disclaimer (I work with Hicksie, when he turns up in the office :-).
Re: Would you want your storage array running windows ?
Pure FUD I'm afraid, and the kind I'm getting less and less inclined to tolerate. Do you have any *specific* Samba bugs you're complaining about, or are you just repeating what your NetApp or EMC rep. told you ?
You do realize Samba powers IBM Sonas storage, which is used by some of the most demanding NAS customers in the world ?
DRM does work.
See Ian Hickson (author of the HTLM5 spec) on this.
DRM works just fine. It's just not designed to stop people copying, but to restrict innovative devices.
Re: rules change
So long as they don't screw up the access to Ranch99 Chinese Market on Wolfe+Homestead whilst they're building it I'm good.
It'll make the house prices go up anyway :-).
Re: ANY closed source software might have secret back doors
Sure you can get the source code. But unless you build it yourself, you can't know that what you are running matches the source code you were given under the contracted NDA.
That always amuses me about the Microsoft claims of "but we gave the organization the source code, so it's the same as Open Source/Free Software, honest !"
Unless the organization has the build system as well, and does their own builds, then no it really isn't the same.
The wonderful thing about the Linux-based Open Source/Free Software releases is that you get the build systems as well and they're really widely understood - so if you're really paranoid yes you *can* build everything yourself. From scratch - just like CentOS does.
Of course then you have to trust the compiler, but now we're going into an interesting recursive problem :-).
Re: Napoleon Was Right
As my brother famously (*) said, "Never mind the economy, we can always just sell each other haircuts over the Internet".
Sad, so sad to see the UK manufacturing base gone..
(*) Famous to me, at least.
Re: Microsoft Lock In
Stop the anti-GPLv3 fud, it won't wash here. I was on one of the committees tasked with creating the GPLv3 and I can tell you it's a *better* license for shippinging commercial FLOSS product than GPLv2. If you don't believe me believe IBM, EMC, Symantec, Dell, etc. All of whom ship and support enterprise storage products based on GPLv3 Samba code.
Re: What a waste of time
You' re missing the point. The "free" in free software isn't about the money, it's about the freedom and control. The only thing I can say FOR SURE about what people will use the Samba 4 AD server for is that they'll want to do things with it that we in the Samba Team haven't thought of yet.
That flexibility is priceless. No one cares about spending the money, it's about doing things that are simply not possible with a Windows AD controller because you Don' get the source code.
That was then
But this is now...
He's finally admitted he has some funding from Microsoft, which is as pro-patent as you get. I really wish people would stop quoting him, but he's the lazy journalists 'rent-a-patent-quote' machine. I think it's his business model, like Rob Enderle.
Samba does not infringe any Microsoft patents.
Just want to be *very* clear about that. Microsoft has to notify us of any patents they claim cover the implemented protocols. See the EU agreement for details.
Nick Thompson wrote:
"Thanks for the personal insults. Grow up."
and then followed it up with:
"and cretins like Stallman and the FSF are trying to force it on everyone"
Pot, have a seat over here next to kettle :-).
Try a Linux based NAS
Rather than trying to set up Ubuntu or Red Hat Fedora by hand, try just buying a Linux based NAS such ReadyNAS, or even one of the HP MediaVault based servers. There's a lot of different brands to chose from and you won't have to set up a Samba share by hand on any of them.
Or if you don't want to pay..
Download the OpenFiler distro from www.openfiler.com, or the FreeNAS build from www.freenas.org. Again, an easy web based setup on your choice of hardware. There's really no excuse for complaining that Linux or FreeBSD home storage is hard to set up.
Don't need to use mount.cifs - use the GUI
As one of the authors of mount.cifs it is insane to tell newbies to use this tool.
Linux distributions these days include Gnome or KDE, and libsmbclient, the SMB browsing and file/print sharing service is integrated directly into Nautilus, the file browser for Gnome, and Konqueror, the file browser for KDE.
Just bring up the GUI file browser and click on 'Network', for heavens sake.
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