How do they define Dark Web?
If my company has a server for staff/customers that isn't linked from the public pages and isn't in google, is that the dark web?
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If my company has a server for staff/customers that isn't linked from the public pages and isn't in google, is that the dark web?
Yep. This isn't fundamentally security, its a simple cost/benefit thing.
Given an exception like this you can either put in the systems , processes, monitoring, staffing and everything else required so that every now and then people don't have to drive 60 miles, or else you accept that every now and then people do.
Guess which one tends to work out cheaper for a small organisation? Its just the money. If you're a small organisation on a tight budget then gonzo level sophisticated systems just don't pay for themselves, and of course the more complicated the security the higher the risk, so the more attention it needs and so it snowballs.
Given efficient admin, business processes etc. a really well managed organisation would work it out so that when the need comes to drive the 60 miles there are a whole raft of useful things they do to make the trip worthwhile, not just a single damn video, but again that's nothing to do with security.
> Does it not seem perverse to you that given a circumstance in which you find you need a
> lawyer, that if you can afford a more expensive lawyer then you have a better chance of
> being found not guilty?
That's certainly what expensive lawyers want you to believe, and the sort of stuff that professions like lawyering like to promote to try and justify their ridiculous incomes. I wonder, though, if the proposition has ever been scientifically tested?
Mind you the logical alternate proposition, that justice works reasonably equably and it makes little difference how good your lawyer is, seems to ridiculously naive and utopian to have any chance of being accurate.
> Or he generated a few 1000 low paid installer jobs and a few 1M/year bonuses
> for chums at the usual suspects.
Quite right, after all we want government to learn from the efficient private sector don't we...
> I think you'll find that the flying scotsman is the name of the train service and
> NOT specifically the locomotive.
No, its simple. When there's a big board on the top front of the steam locomotive then that's the name of the train. So in the vase of the photo shown the name of the train is "the Flying Scotsman". Except that of course its not. The Flying Scotsman hasn't been pulled by steam locomotives since the 60s. So actually its another train *pretending* to be the Flying Scotsman. When there's a name about half way along the side of the locomotive then that's the name of the locomotive. Which in this case is Flying Scotsman. If there's a name on the side of the passenger carriages at roof level above the windows then that's either the name of the train or the destination, depending. If there's a name on the passenger carriages painted on below the windows that's the name of the carriage, which is usually only very high end ones. Back in the day some companies named their locomotives after places on the railway. Passengers used to think that those were destinations, not locomotive names, and get on the wrong train.
See what a mess sloppy naming conventions and confusing labelling can get you into. Funny how every generation and technology has to learn the same lessons...
You do not want to get into a discussion with the more extremely enthusiastic type of railway enthusiast about paint. Just trust me on this. OK?
Speaking as a techie I've never found penalty clauses to be of any value at all.
No-one ever thinks their project is going to go pear shaped, so if all is going well they make no difference to anything.
If things go wrong two things happen.
The first is that your supplier, instead of trying to fix things and deliver, puts their prime effort into avoiding the penalty clauses. This doesn't make the project go any better at all.
The second is that your bean counters and lawyers want to invoke the penalty clauses, so instead of getting on with doing something useful and in particular planning for how you're going to keep the old system running for another two years while another setup gets procured you're constantly getting badgered by the suits for evidence of why the penalty clauses do apply.
And the end result: loads of quite unproductive effort on both sides - and you still haven't got the bloody system.
The solution, of course, is to make sure that you pick a vendor who isn't going to foul up and can deliver, which ain't easy at the best of times, and is even less easy if half the best vendors took a look at your proposed penalty clauses and decided to withdraw their bid for the project...
Like it or not they're our best hope to get the greed of the executive class under comtrol, even though the only people who seem prepared to put the effort into running them are the looney left.
If you do that don't you risk removing the incentive to anonymise the data in the first place? Anonymising data is surprisingly hard to do well as the original implies, so if there's little incentive to do so the temptation will always be to use the full data set and not risk running into all the data integrity problems anonymising can bring you.
The scandal with the whole self serving legal system is not that lawyers exist, or that government or private organisations can be challenged legally, all this is necessary, and maybe even right and proper.
The scandal is that the whole legal system has bloated and bloated, so that the actual expense of using lawyers has increased and increased. Trials that once took three days now take three weeks, three weeks three months, and is doubtful the accuracy of verdicts has greatly increased. Somethhing needs to happen so that the more excessive the expenses the less profitable the affair is for the lawyers, but I'm not clever enough to think how it could be managed.
He is a bail jumper.
He may or may not be a rapist: I wasn't there and don't know.
The innocent until proven thing, is just a legal assumption/contrivance which is intended to reduce the risk of injustice, it has no real bearing on the truth.
I become a criminal when I commit a crime, and I remain a criminal for ever. I may not be caught, I may be found wrongly innocent, I may evade trial, I may convince myself that what I did wasn't really wrong, but I'll still be a criminal.
I came across my Virus collection floppy discs the other day: quite an array of different offenders we caught in the organisation. The only one that really hurt is was the first we got, Vacsina, which was a pain in the neck to eliminate. After that we got much better at catching them early on.
Exactly so.The lawyers bill the same hourly rate for stuff that a 4 year old could have come up with as they do for something that has some validity.
Is an interesting observation that we plebs who do the real work are considered to be likely to do as good a job as we can through pride in our work or fear of being sacked, and yet our lords and masters consider themselves so amoral and so lacking in commitment and self respect that they will only do a good job if they are bribed with megabucks.
At my level, if I thought a prospective employee would only do good work if given huge bonuses then I would be wondering about whether to employ them at all
The trouble is pace of development. Its a common enough science fiction scenario. You send off your slower than light starships, which will take 300 years to reach their destination, and 300 years later they get there, to be greeted by the crews of the FTL starships who had left base 3 months before...
Nice idea, but believe me because I know, if the IT department can't buy machines that support the standard desktop installation it's the IT department that gets the abuse, not the manufacturer of non backwards compatible hardware.
Yep.In the short term I see the executive class getting richer and richer whilst relying on the machines to hand out the old panem et circusem. In the medium term I fear it may be À la lanterne, À la lanterne...
> However a start would be a brilliant brief with a rock solid technical and functional specification
> that delivers fully working milestones that can work independently
Mmm, but to have the capability to really deliver that specification you probably need a serious in house IT capability, including the experience of running the current system with all the realworld problems that throws up.
My father was an immediate post war pilot in the Australian Navy. At the time of this incident he was mainly flying Sea Venoms, which as a 1st generation carrier jet required very 'positive' landings. However the squadron also had an Auster (think post war equivalent of Tiger Moth).
Familiarisation/check flight in the Auster. Without thinking crew apply familiar landing technique.The Auster's undercarriage didn't survive... Fortunately the Auster did, indeed I noted last year that it survived its navy career and is still flying.
Of course the people who really shoudn't be allowed anywhere near a manual car are the under 21s. However I wonder to what extent, if under 21s (far more dangerous than the elderly) were banned from driving the problem would go up the scale a bit.
Sudden vision though, of a charge of "driving whilst under the influence of raging hormones"...
Well, if you get rid of everyone who knows how it went pear shaped last time, then does that decrease or increase the risk of the same thing happening again?
A balance needs to be struck. The trouble is I'm never sure how well these exercises really identify what went wrong in the decision making process and how to rectify it. However the crack about power but not responsibility seems all to feasible to this commentard, who spent too many years in government IT.
To see that they have the new version in 32bit Windows only at the moment... Usually I use my old Win98 box for playing text games!
That the identity of the product that the rot started with may well relate to the age of the poster. I'm not sure there has been an Ms upgrade I've been prepared to recommend unequivocally to the standard just want to do my job user since the 90s.
Grief , what a nightmare, caught out, desperate for a pee, finally find a quiet corner and some damn google car drives past...
As you sanctimonious SOBs will find out, as you get older you're most likely to have less and less time to try and find somewhere to pee, so watch out...
> That's an interesting way of treating your customers. "Do exactly what I say, or I'll stop giving you
> the option of employing me. Then what'll you do?"
You must admit, though, its almost exactly in line with what Microsoft are doing here...
> just create an "internal" subdomain in the domain you officially own.
Doesn't everyone do that? Had that argument must be 15 years or more ago... Although ISTR some MS consultant claiming it was better to make internals domains something.local, which never struck me as a great idea.
Mmmm, but do you honestly think the executives making purchasing decisions at commercial cleaning companies give a flying [redacted] about how well the vacuum cleaners actually work? Probably somewhat the reverse since the less it picks up the less time is wasted empting the things.
Don't get me wrong, I loathe the Dyson stuff with the dubious marketing and what I find to be very questionable ergonomics, but I cannot see that what the commercial companies use is any guide. Unless of course you believe that commercial cleaning contractors have much interest in the quality of the service they deliver, in which case I'll just pat you on the head and walk away...
I know that quite a few of the design engineers were expecting them to be cancelled sooner or later, so perhaps they assumed there was in point in beating up about stupid decisions if they were going to come to nothing anyway. It can be a major struggle to inject sense into a bureaucracy, and it can also be very career limiting.
Yeah, all sorts of muppets like that fall for it. I remember when I worked for a local authority the marketdroid equivalents telling me we should do this and that to improve our SEO ranking. As we were already first for any google query involving xxx County Council I found it difficult to get excited...
Is there another kind?
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good to reference Bogey and the Beatles in one subheading...
Which is exactly why making it even easier for the big corporations and their fat cat execs to rip off the little people is a bad thing.
However I wonder how many bemused PFYs are wondering WTF this is all about?
Dear Mod, please may I give this post more upvotes...
The wedding one for instance: Can't go to your mate's wedding 'cause its your shift on the CCTV so you watch it on the CCTV instead? Rather sweet (if a bit sad) rather than anything evil or malicious. But deserves a slapped wrist for *not* watching what the cameras should have been on, which sounds as if its what they got....
You jest, of course. Don't you? With offshored services, script driven call centres, staff who are literally scared for their jobs if they deviate from the exact letter of the rules (Carphone Warehouse employees, does this sound familiar), escalated renewal prices as a matter of policy in my experience actual customer service is at something like an all time low. Certainly the worst its been for about 25 years.
Talking about customer service but not actually giving any, yeah sure, that's a priority...
> What's so special about animals that are going extinct?
Well, normally one would hope that new species would be appearing at roughly the same rate as old ones are going extinct. If Smith's yellow beaked gull goes extinct and its ecological niche is picked up by Jones' orange beaked gull that's a wonder of nature. But if all the gulls go extinct and are replaced by life free polluted wastelands the world has become a more boring place.
I strongly suspect that you cannot create a proper wooly mammoth without a female mammoth to grow it in, or without the gut flora it gets from its peers and all th rest of it. Then there's learned behaviour from the herd and you can carry on. I suspect all you'd have would be an artificial organism that had a vague resemblance to a mammoth. No matter what the children's pictures of Dawkinsianity might present, there seems to be an awful lot more to inheritance than just the DNA.
What, nothing that's connected to them has exposure to the net either? Congratulations if your organisation has the discipline and commitment to run with that level of isolation, but I fear most sites have the risk of a client being used as a transmission vector.
The days when shareholders were the problem seems to me to be long gone.
The current problem with capitalism seems to me to be that the executives are plundering the wealth from both the shareholders (=pensions funds, account holders and so on) and the productive staff, and grabbing an ever increasing share from themselves. They can get away with this because the ownership is so scattered into powerless pockets (pensioners etc) that all the decisions on how the money is distributed are made by executives, who have an inflated belief on what their share should be.
It would be very interesting to compare the relative payment to shareholders, staff and executives in businesses now to that of twenty years ago. It seems to me that since the crash staff have had wages held down, shareholders have had returns held down, but executives have... filled their boots. Aux lanternes...
And in Texas they've got one that is *even bigger*...
Na. we're just illustrating another principle of online discussion - that people will post about what they fancy rabbitting on about rather than the OP's intended topic.
I suspect Godwin's law is probably a subset of a greater truth. I shouldn't be surprised if there were an equivalent principle with a different subject in say Chinese or Arabic language forums where perhaps Nazism might not have such a grip on the popular psyche.
I fear so: if a powerful political element in your customer company is already looking for excuses to discontinue using your services it is not a smart move to go out on the p*** and thump their staff.
I'm reminded of Animal Farm, in that it appears that the right wing un PC misfit has become just as arrogant and disdainful of the 'oi polloi as the lefties in the BBC...
It also makes me wonder if Mr Clarkson's relationship with the booze may have ceased to be a healthy one, and his friends need to encourage him to take a very good look at his life.
Personally I like working in Britain, and I'd like other people to have jobs working in Britain too.
It is a great achievement, but is salutary to think how little one would learn about the earth with a 26 mile trek. There's a very long way to go.
That reminds me: in the flooded floor void incident I posted earlier we were left with a very damp void once the water had been drained out. But one of the Ops was into dogs, and specifically into showing poodles. You know, artistically cropped fluffy dogs. She had one *serious* hair dryer which was a big help in drying out the void.
But I once came in to find the 9 inch deep false floor in the server room 6 inches deep in water - and everything still running with all the mains sockets immersed...
Unfortunately I can't find the photo of the Unisys (or might have been Sperry) mini that was delivered in a 19in rack and the tail lift on the delivery lorry went pearshaped and it toppled over and 3 feet down onto the concrete. Enough force to make for a rack full of rhomboidal equipment...
But is it a properly unsigned copy of Mort? i.e. one that has been taken along to a book signing, opened by the master, but not actually written in?
> It was 1944 before the RAF had the Tallboy bombs that severely damaged the Tirpitz in Norway.
"With big data analytics, there is the temptation to use the technology to build up a precise profile of each individual traders' behaviour and practices. However, intrusions into individual privacy must be proportionate and necessary to comply with data protection laws."
Hold on. This is about what the traders are doing on the company's time, with the company's equipment, with the company/customer's money and on the company's salary. Why should there be an expectation of privacy? Surely their management is entitled to ask for a precise profile of behaviour and practices any time they like, or do they work on very different terms to the rest of us, and if so why?