126 posts • joined Saturday 6th September 2008 01:14 GMT
Multitasking and Swipe
Looks like this Asha has multtitasking and gets the swipes from the N9 MeeGo. Do I smell a rebelion inside Nokia?
Lately Im witnessing a pattern from years ago: someone trolling with an apparent bias toward Linux and then an horde of supposed balanced people fighting the troll with the classic "Linux is good and all BUT WINDOWS blablabla...", but now you have Android and WP8. Looks like a self-preserving strategy, like when cheap netbooks with linux threatned Windows XP and ultimately the lunch of Windows 7.
An article talking about a new release of the Linux kernel with interesting new features ends to be infested with comments about Linux as an OS desktop vs Windows. Microsoft is doing a good job shooting in the foot, with Windows Vista, weird decisions in 7, the Ribbon and now with W8. GET OVER IT. With Android and iOS they are contacting with alternatives and if WP8 its not doing well its because of 2-3 simple things: the steps needed to access the app store, no apps enough and because ordinary people HATE it after 2 weeks using it. I know because they bang on my door to help them after the HR dept swapped the old 6.5 phones for WP7.5 and 8 phones.
Having said this, Linux kernel development its not going disappear overnight, not matter what, its been here for more than 20 years. It have been mainstream on the server camp and appliances. Now its mainstream on mobile. And the march to the desktop, albeight very slow, it will happen. You know why? The "IT guy" started to refuse to clean windows machines and offer to install and support the new linux desktop users...
Facts:friends and colleagues at the office dont call microsoft for help, they bother me becauseim the IT guy. After hundreds of hours cleaning the shite they make just to be bothered a week later, again, i refuse now to install and/or clean the crap. If they want a linux desktop,fine, otherwisethey are fckd. Guess what, the ones who accept the deal are very pleased. The truth is, if you give to this kind of person an empty computer and the dvds with windows and linux to install, they would give up without trying probably
Re: Sunshine vs Solaris
Guess that the use of the wrong icon led to a misinterpretation of my comment...anyway, in my opinion the sci-fi theme was an excuse on Sunshine for a few moments of thriller or something like that. I tend to appreciate movies for their FX and photografy also. But, what do I know? Many of my friends disliked the last incarnation of Battlestar Galactica, which had the most real science lately.
It was. No mention that Google must approve accounts and the account tied to a domain. which means a process of checking, in theory. Very different from the idea of almost nothing, unlike what was pointed about Apple.
Windows 8 vs VXs
"Pretty much all OSs are hackable. It is worth noting that Windows 8 has one of the lowest vulnerability counts versus time of any current OS, as does IE 10 - much lower than Chrome or Firefox for instance."
Even the bad guys despise Windows 8 :-)
Why the reporter omitted the last part from the source?
"Google charges just $25 for Android developers who wish to sell their applications through the Google Play marketplace, but it also requires the accounts to be approved and tied to a specific domain."
I'm not familiar with the approval process within Google and how effective its tying the account with the domain, but I suspect that the buyer will have a hard time to find people to sell their personal information in exchange for $100...and the fraudulent ones? Yeah...
Re: "This is a platform loved by reviewers and respected by analysts" - and yet...
The 3 first steps are forbidden. Please, can you point me any of those file manager apps? I looked at the Store and no one was present. And not so long ago I read this thread...
Trend and intellectual honesty
"To be brutally frank, Samsung's "innovation culture" is mostly about following trends rather than acting as a "first mover", in your humble writer's opinion, while Huawei's is about long-term planning and strategy."
Funny, with the Galaxy Note (I) and the Galaxy SIII (big screen) I'm pretty sure Samsung was a first mover. Even with the 7" tab. Look at Apple Andrew, they released the iPad mini...
To be brutally frank, stop with the bias.
Re: "This is a platform loved by reviewers and respected by analysts" - and yet...
"Not for Windows Phone 8, which shows up as a device which you can drag and drop to/from."
Yeah, I know that, played with a Lumia 800?...but you know, I had the same stupid problem again, installing certs...no file manager, no access to the files.
"This is a platform loved by reviewers and respected by analysts" - and yet...
...hardly anyone in the real world seems interested. Maybe there's a message here for reviewers and analysts.
Just a thought...
I subscribe GrecC words. The reporter whants to deny the reality no matter what. At the time of the first Android phone, what we have? iOS, Symbian and Windows 6.5. The carriers started to hate Apple and one manufacturer, HTC, started to release good android phones. Samgung jumped in, Sony Ericsson, LG...why? No iOS to license, symbian messed by Nokia...Windows mobile 6.5?? What a joke. Everyone learned a lesson, deal with Microsoft and you are screwed. So Andrew, you can praise Windows Phone and badmouth any other phone OS (iOS exception of course). but you will go nowhere. A simple thing like not having a file manager just puzzle people who purchased a Windows Phone. I know that because my co-workers bang on my door asking for help. And if you want to manage your phone on windows, you need Zune. More and more layers of bloatware.
Re: Nokia copies Sony's low-light demonstation from 2011
It's like the 920 video promotion fiasco.
"the Motorolas use a protocol called Sectéra for scrambling which comes from General Dynamics, which does stuff for the US military, including system integration."
I guess the US military wont mind to spy at the spies. Spy vs Spy redux? :-)
Samsung did a good job with the Bada app store, even in China they have plenty of app stores but, who, on their minds think that starting a new app store for a new OS will be easy for Samsung?
@Posted Tuesday 22nd January 2013 13:08 GMT
Let me explain straight away: I want to put t the damn bloddy certs on the phone, not in the sky high nor a wacky wi-fi network that don't exist for many reasons security included. So, whats my point? If Windows Phone its the next big thing, how on Earth I can't upload the stupid certs on the phone using the Zune software for example?*SIGH*....
Can you tell me please, how can I put the certificates on a windows phone (7 or 8, you choose), to configure an Exchange mail account without mailling them to an webmail account?
Well, Nokia only got some attention on the 920? due the moniker "PureView", but the loyal nokia fans knows well that the PureView works at its best on the 808 only. Samsung its doing well because it invested in publicity and some nice tricks. The Notes (I, II) are marvellous. But if you only use a smartphone for communications, well, don't buy one, and stick with a feature phone. You are wasting money nevertheless.
@I ain't Spartacus
"MS might be much more restrictive than Google with Android, but Nokia seems to be the 'top dog' in the Win Pho market, so they don't need to differentiate. Plus they do have Nokia maps and the shiny camera on the 920"
Is it me or you and Elop (ok, lets assume he *did* say it during the interview), sometimes says that with Android Nokia wouldnt be able to differentiate from the other manufacturers, unlike with WinPho, but with the restrictions imposed by Microsoft Nokia being the top dog dont need to worry about it...I don't know but looks like a bit confusing...
And whats curious is that you like alot Windows Phone but not so if you have to pay the price that Nokia asks to have one of their phones.
"But I'm not buying another smartphone without Gorilla glass (or equivalent), and I'm not paying much over £200 - when I can have a new iPad for £400."
About Andrew, I was just joking, but truth said, I think he can't stand Android for some reason. I would love to see WebOS and MeeGo thrieve but it didnt happen, I even miss the hours that a symbian phone would give, but life goes on...
"He also pointed out that Nokia had rejecting Google's Android operating system because it would have been tough differentiating its products from all the other Android handset makers."
Like the restrictions imposed by Microsoft on Windows Phone?
P.S. I wonder if Andrew got red faced at the idea of Nokia releasing an Android phone :-D
On headlines put some words on a BIG FONT and you are done.
The network operator
"We're left to wonder what value a network operator actually offers: expensive retail units and a billing mechanism, perhaps. Anything else?"
Lets see Andrew: my network operator serves me, for my money (39 euros), digital tv, telephone and internet, all over fiber. I have free and unlimited access to their wifi hotspots whith a good coverage. They provide me with a voip number, which I can use abroad to call to landline lines in my country, for free. 100MB of data over 3G every month, gratis (enough for me to check the emails if I'm away of a wifi spot), Free phone calls to landlines within Europe and some countrys in the Americas. I think I didnt forgot anything so Andrew, what you were saying about RIM offer? Oh, and like others have pointed already, the network operator own/control the *network* where RIM users hang on...
So, politicians are now shocked about something the large corporations and the rich have doing for decades with their approval? Whats next, pigs flying?
Common users tend to follow techies choices and advices. Soon Samsung got a hit with the Galaxy II, some friends of mine (iPhone users) started to make questions about Android. Guess what they choose for their next new shiny?
I never used QR codes myself (no need), and maybe this is implemented already but, none of the QR readers out there display a message about the url the user is going to visit?
You can always make your own Andoid firmware...
I suspect that Andrew is on route of having a second Nokia WP shiny paperweight. And this time he sounds very desperate, no apps, bad OS options...oh dear...
Re: Why one anyone want a shit expensive phone?
Almost no one (the one its Andrew :-D ). But he is trying hard in astroturfing WP8...
Re: @hitmouse Paperwork
"attempted fob-offs using "I don't speak English" "
People who have english as their mother tongue must start considering that people speaks english as a courtesy and not as an obligation. Wherever I go, i always try to make myself understandable in the local language and learn about local culture. Foreigners entering the US have a 5 minutes paperwork experience right? Foreigners with dark skin entering the UK always get a warm welcome from the truly polite policemen at the airport right? And guess what, all the tight policies result from the terrorist attacks, which are not related with the political and military interventions by the US and the UK right?
You must live in a paradise, where every service works just wonderfully. If not, just go roaming and don't complaint how hard it's to get a SIM card in another country.
Re: Split screen
"He didn't say all mobile OSes.
"On rival mobile operating systems.."
He didnt say or he didnt mean it? Anyway, who cares? For some reason Andrew just can't stand the success of Google's Android, and he even praise Nokia for their Lumia phones, the same company who appointed a Trojan for CEO, who burned Andrews former love Symbian and ditched a superb OS that was MeeGo, which serves as an inspiration for BB10, ironically...
"On rival mobile operating systems, it's a pain to switch between apps when you simply need to compare information shown in each one. Here's some thoughtful design in BB10 that makes that redundant: two views overlaying each other."
Andrew, did you omit on purpose the fact that the Samsung Galaxy III and Note II have the possibility of spliting the screen? Or it's just you never touched them?
Some will say that it was Microsoft who forced HP to stop the development, maybe it was bad management on HP side, or maybe there was to many sheep following the Exchange trend (which at the time scale horribly), whatever the reason, OpenMail was toasted.
"We are committed to delivering a great experience for our developers."
"I didn't use it but what we read is that it's a confused and a compromised product".
Funny, its the same as me toward the mini. Tim, you were talking about Surface or it was a Freudian slip over the mini?
But no shortages...
on news of supply shortages...
Try the navigation outside a major city and then we could talk ;-)
No, actually till the last update for Nokia 5800 Xpress. After that I become aware of Sygic.Pity they discontinued the symbian version.
Re: Oh, that's it.
"One drawback of moving to Portugal, though, is having to learn portugese. Well, can't have everything, I suppose."
If you want to go the lazy way, you would found that most of the *Portuguese* people speaks english but before learning *Portuguese* you must check how to spell *Portuguese* :)
If its just for location, Nokia offer a great maps solution, but navigation? Last time I used their Maps, the routing routines were awful to say the least...
Tablets are not Netbooks...
...Mr Ballmer, so this time you cant impose Windows on OEMs :-P People are finding that Office its not a must have anymore and that for playing, browsing, listening music, reading a book or watching a movie their tablets only need to run IOS or Android...
3 articles in a row??
Dear Andrew, get over it, no one cares about WP8...never in its history Nokia had to fake publicity and now, with the Lumia 920 did it twice...compare it with the publicity for the 808 PureView, a SYMBIAN phone...
"The move comes as reports suggest the retailer-turned-e-book-maker is building its own mobile to rival Apple's iPhone".
Considering how Samsung SIII excels over the iPhones in terms of technology, if any new comer or new model from a present manufacturer should rival its the SIII and not the fruity thing.
I wonder if the Nokia board didnt make a mistake when they hired Elop, they should have appointed him to Vertu instead the main company...