@ GrantB

Apple can get away with some cross-over between Lion and iOS as they certify apps can run on 4" iPhones, 10" iPads and that the MACBOOKS RUNNING LION HAVE MOST OF THE SAME HARDWARE.

Gibberish

@ Brian 6

No, they switched because IBM had no interest in producing a low power powerpc for laptops ie battery life.

Some comments on previous comments

AJ

""all" Freesat adds is the EPG (electronic programme Guide)."

Not so. The (BBC/ITV) Freesat channels are on different transponders from the Sky FTA stuff ie there's a lot of apparently wasteful duplication but probably necessary to maintain independence from Sky's ideas of what should be free to air. Where channels are duplicated you can tune in to use either or both.

AC

Yes it's not a Freesat receiver and probably can't use the Freesat EPG but I assume it can use Sky's. I have setup 2 (non Freesat) Satellite receivers recently (Pace and Humax) both of which use Sky EPG perfectly. You wouldn't expect this box to handle most of the Sky HD channels since they're sub only but I don't think we'll have to wait too long for more HD on Freesat. Course you still wo't have the rather good Freesat EPG

@Brett #2

Where the f**k did you get the ludicrous idea that that Apple don't sell full OSX installers !

More to the point where do you get the neck to actually post such bollocks

How about a Dreambox ?

Can be bought with DTT, Sat or cable tuner. All models networkable, can record to network share on PC, Mac or NAS. Pricier models can have internal drive or use CF card, can also be fitted with two tuner. They're also linux boxes and fun to play with.