382 posts • joined 3 Sep 2008
Re: Can Tor be trusted anyway?
Snowden trusted it enough to leak his info (he used the TAILS Linux distro)
And he knew what he was doing.
Re: Wow! That many people moved to KDE or XFCE?
KDE 4.x is the best desktop I have used for any OS.
Windows 7/Vista is essentially a KDE 4.X clone.
The menu bar/widgets, etc all came out on KDE first.
Windows 8.X is essentially a Gnome3/Unity clone (which is why its unusable crap)
Re: nmap -O
The thing is that will not show info about backported fixes...
There is a test nmap script however here
Re: Bitmap Bros...
That's because those machines were from a time before Microsoft's monopoly damaged computing and set it back 5 - 10 yrs.
An Amiga 1200 (from 1991) compared to a windows PC from 1996
The Amiga ran at 14Mhz and had a 2MB RAM, the Windows PC I had ran at 166 Mhz and had 32MB RAM
- The Amiga booted up faster (seconds for a HDD boot into workbench)
- The Amiga was more responsive desktop
- The Amiga was more a more stable desktop (only games ever cause crashes...)
- The Amiga has sound that didn't stutter ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME
- The Amiga's graphics although lacked the 3D capabilities seems far faster - and didn't stutter ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME - at 1996 I saw nothing as impressive as 'state of the art' on a PC.
- Everything cost far more in Windows than the Amiga, there were loads of software on the Amiga that just didn't exist for Windows (i.e music production.) and equivalents that did cost often 2 - 10 X the amount (for less reliable software)
Going from the Amiga 1200 -> Win 95 was like a step into the Dark ages.
Thank god for Linux.
> Just a shame it's being used to automatically infect us :(
Yes Linux desktop users are pretty much safe from most malware/spyware still.
Yes - most people who don't understand even basic security on Linux will try to get (as an example) 'wordpress' to run by doing the following
- chmod -R 777 /var/www/crappysite.com
- disable SELINUX/APPARMOR (as it's 'interfering' with Wordpress)
- Maybe disabled the firewall (after all they couldn't get their 'Navicat' to connect...)
i.e in order to get a (in my mind) badly designed CMS system they have disabled pretty much all security.
Oh and there is also the fact that a lot of people running their own webservers didn't realise that (a) you had to install updates (b) that was meant to be done by them...
Native Civlisation ?
That's all I care about - Civ5 (and Civ6..) natively on Linux.
Civ5 btw is faster (in terms of 3d speed and time taken for the CPU to move) on Linux -> via wine than it is real Windows.
For the 3D speed you need Nvidia at present.
The only limitation now is lack to DX11 support.
Re: I don't get it
That is not the case now - at least with 'good' distros.
I run Arch and Opensuse - Arch has enlightenment, cinnamon, Gnome3 and KDE - no update of one desktop has ever negatively effected another (in over 2 years).
I have heard of people running Ubuntu unity and being screwed by updating other desktop components - not that I care about people who run Unity.
Gnome3/Cinnamon are pretty and good for home use. For work I can only use KDE personally.
Well you have Bodhi Linux
E17/19 is insanely fast and uses low resources - would seem far faster than XP did... They will always support a non PAE version. (including 14.04)
There is also Lubuntu fake-pae (not really sure about that)
Of course there is absolutely nothing (aside from knowledge/skill) preventing you compiling your own kernel with any distro and removing PAE - that's one of the beauties of Linux and opensource in general - flexibility.
i.e something you can never do with Microsoft/Apple OS's.
Wrong KDE version mentioned - its 4.13
The developers plan to use KDE 4.13 for kubuntu 14.04 - makes some sense as its 5 yr support.
The KDE 4.13 release schedule is roughly the same time as 14.04 release - this means there may be more bugs initially but better 'long term'.
That is unless done major breakage occurs
And now Microsoft sell operating systems to the Commonwealth and they tell them that's secure...
Re: A common API is definitely a must.
Like Ubuntu is doing.
You know the best things about Linux vulnerabilities?
They normally get fixed quickly - unlike say with Windows.
Sometimes you can ever fix stuff yourself - with Windows often your at the mercy of one company to fix it for you.
Re: Run Kryten Smug-Mode
Redhat support OS's for 10 years.
Why the fuck would you want to run a desktop using 13 year old software anyway?
If you run debian or variant of it you can generally safely upgrade to the next version anyway (which stick with a shitty old OS?)
Whatever costs would be needed for a full scale migration of the NHS to Linux the savings over decades would outweigh those costs. Not to mention reliability and security - even the UK gov has said Ubuntu is more secure than Windows8/Mac
It would mean the tax payer no longer forced to fund an anti competitive patent troll also, another bonus would be the tax payer would be funding technological improvements for the entire world, not Microsoft's patent lawyers.
I went to an NHS hospital the other day and on a large computer screen (used in reception) it had a post it note that read ' When you lose networking reboot computer' ..... It was running Windows - I can't imagine a Linux desktop ever having that note on - I wonder how much productivity is lost just in that one reception thanks to the NHS using windows - can only imagine how much productivity is lost for the whole organisation.
Re: IOPS - KVM speed
Also regarding IOPS -
" It also details test results that demonstrate that a single KVM
guest can handle more than 1.2 million I/O operations per second (IOPS) at 8KB I/O request
size and more than 1.5 million IOPS at 4KB and smaller request sizes – the
highest storage I/O performance ever reported in a virtualized environment."
So your statement regarding VMWARE /HyperV IOPS speed being greater than KVM was just plain wrong....
I can only assume your benchmarking was also.
Re: "the familiarity of Windows"
Some people were blessed knowing computing before Windows Monopoly damaged computing in the mid 90's and will never be happy using it - thank fuck.
Re: KVM = fastest Windows Virtualisation performance
Did you house your Windows VM in an LVM partition, instead of a QCOW image?
Only when I do that coupled with the cache settings NONE/NATIVE does Windows IO speed outperform other types of virtualisation - i.e you NEED to install inside an LVM partition (and use Virtio drivers to get 'proper' speed)
Also your wrong about IOPS. KVM currently holds the IOP's world record...
'KVM has achieved World Record IOPS: 1,402,720 IOPS on a IBM x3850 X5 for 8KB request using 7 SCSI pass-through devices.. For 1 KB requests, can achieve 1.65M IOPS.'
KVM = fastest Windows Virtualisation performance
As long as you set up the KVM vm correctly - i.e install in an LVM partition, set correct cache settings and use Virtio drivers it will outperform all other types of virtualisation.
You HAVE you use the Virtio Disk drivers (as your installing in an LVM partition) or the Windows installer will not see any drives btw.
(correct cache settings = native,none)
Try it, benchmark it and you will see
Polished KDE implementation
OpenSuse's implementation of KDE has always seemed that bit more polished. Compared to Kubuntu 13.10 KDE seems a but snappier and the base system more stable... i.e the original release of Kubuntu 13.10 broke on UEFI installs - without an internet connection (to get updates) even now you cannot install Kubuntu 13.10 in UEFI mode (unless you chroot into the system and fix it..)
KDE I have thought for a long time is the nicest desktop for any OS - MS 'borrowed' a lot of early KDE 4.x features for Vista/Windows7. Windows 8 seems to be a Unity/Gnome3 clone (worst of both worlds)
KDE4.11 has so many nice little usability features the most you use it the more you will never think of bothering to try and work with Unity/Gnome3
p.s you can install the Nvidia drivers now 'the hard way' - i.e via the binary from Nvidia.com (like those windows barbarians have always had to - rather than use your package manager - like the master race are used to). One good thing about using the binary is that you will always have the latest version (unlike the opensuse/debian/ubuntu repo versions)
Tax payers money
First of all taxpayers money get sent to Microsoft, then to other criminals.
If only they had chosen Linux instead.
They do ...
They do on Linux.
You only get bundled spy/ad/crap ware on Windows applications in my experience.
Never with the Linux version.
Don't have a clue about Mac and will never care.
Its still a copy of Ubuntu Unity - i.e unusable crap.
So it is powered by the mana of the idiot Apple worshippers?
If your company/organization is pathetic enough to still be using this shit then you deserve whats coming to you, and ultimately unless you have migrated to Linux / Mac that will be Windows 8 - enjoy working with that won't you.
Seriously there is no excuse.
Personally I can't wait until the police/hospitals,etc waste our tax on shiny new PC's to run Windows 8 (instead of saving money in the long run with Linux..)
Re: 6 million unsold stock?
> Incredible waste of resources
Re: Mint 16 should be interesting...
The same can be said for Kubuntu also.
If your a gamer you are better off with KDE over Cinnamon... (enable suspend desktop effects for full screen apps and disable VBLank in nvidia-settings and you'll most likely be running games faster than Windows 7/8 - Nvidia users only.)
Games are faster on non Gnome 3 desktops (with Nividia) and some games are not playable fullscreen on any gnome3 based system that is a lower version than 3.8 (i.e Unity,Cinnamon,elementary, etc)
KDE gives you the best of both worlds in terms of being able to actually do any work and being able to play games fast.
Mints desktop (cinnamon) is nice however just seems a bit rough to me (and have the issue of being based on gnome3)
Re: Computer games & drugs? Seriously?
I thought drugs were mandatory in the IT world.
198 games according to Gabe
This is just silly, Its like Chris Morris has been put in charge.
However, I heard that people who want a 'Conservative Party' share the most filth that degrades society - ban that phrase for sure.
By 'Illegal' does that mean weed, wikileaks, Snowden will be filtered?
If Linux is pkey that means most of the largest online firms (google, amazon, wikipedia) are pikey.
Although it was a weakness in Firefox, the exploit only effected Windows machines.
Tor now advise people to stop using Windows, not just for this exploit.
"Really, switching away from Windows is probably a good security move for many reasons"
They did annonce that they could not legally tell the truth.
So what is the point in listening to them....
So looks like the carrier pigeon is the way to go..
Re: Microsoft: "We're always listening to our customers"
But Microsoft said that our privacy was important... Whilst giving NSA access to their servers.
Hold on, if Microsoft lied about that why does anyone trust that their products like Windows do not have deliberate backdoors in also ?
Stallman wasn't paranoid, he was right.
Linux is the only major OS I can trust.
Re: Linux/KVM's shell far better
Flexibility in the sense that an image can be converted to other hypervisors 'easily', the ability to resize partitions inside an vm image regardless in they are the first partition on the disk (i.e /dev/sda) - see virt-resize. Flexibilty due to the fact you can script in a Linux environment which is years ahead of 'power'shell.
There is a reason most of the big hardware players are fully supporting and getting behind KVM - i.e IBM, HP, Intel i.e
"KVM is a great fit for HP customers. Using HP cloud-optimized servers; web hosting service providers can roll their own infrastructure, enterprise customers can deploy integrated hardware and software solutions, and everyone can deploy application workloads in the HP Cloud."
> Hyper-v Server has outperformed KVM ever since the release of Hyper-V Server 2008 R2
Utter rubbish = seriously do benchmarks, KVM out performs Hyper V in IO by a serious margin when setup correctlyu - i.e LVM + virtio + correct cache settings.
> Fro instance show me a KVM host running a single VM with 1 million IOPS like Microsoft demonstrated last year?
KVM has achieved World Record IOPS: 1,402,720 IOPS
> Also worth noting that KVM is limited by having to run on top of a Linux OS, whereas Hyper-V Server is a dedicated Hypervisor OS (like VMware ESXi)...
You do know that ESXI is still forked from the Linux kernel also - see ovirt (ovirt.org) - its a Linux ESXI equivalent.
It should like at least half your beliefs are just assumptions not fact.
Linux/KVM's shell far better
Well done Microsoft for realising that certain things are far far far more efficient doing them on the CLI..
Shame your 'hyper-v' will still be years behind Libvirt/KVM in terms of flexibility, performance (if you use LVM+virtio for disk) and cost (£0)
Anyone who thinks KVM's performance is behind Hyper-V hasn't done it right - Windows VM's are very fast if you choose virtio and use the NONE cache setting in advanced IO.
Re: "new apps.. will no longer automatically appear on your Start screen"
By Migrating to a sensible system like Linux + puppet.
Meanwhile Mint15 is a usable desktop and free
KDE 4.10, Cinnamon 1.8 even Gnome 3.8 are better and more usable desktops.
They are also free.
Why would I want to run Windows 8.x ?
Re: That is an obscene amount of money to spend on a toy
He skanked the money in the first place from taxpayers around the world using anti competitive methods which has also harmed technological progress for mankind.
Linux makes sense.
Yes windows 8 proves that Linux makes perfect sense. The file manager in KDE and Mint beat the shit out of any version of Windows.
I used 'power' shell once and wept.
For people who knew no better
Window 3.0 was so far behind the Commodore amiga at the time it was like the system were from different decades.
Windows was (and still is) for people who like wasting their money on an infective system because they know no better.
Re: Every call you make with Skype gets copied to MS servers
Why does this suprise anyone ?
After all its very likely their OS also has backdoors.
With closed source software you would be silly to assume there is not a backdoor..
Re: On the rare occasion that I use Explorer ...
So is everybody running Google Chrome - the code came from KDE's browser...
Re: “advance the bold vision”
If you want actual choice your running the wrong OS.
Linux you do have choice , kde cinnamon, elementaryos are all great usable desktops (most are except unity/gnome3) - also the kernel is appartantly 1/2 a decade ahead of the Windows one...
Re: Inquiring minds want to know
It will be in Ubuntu (or if you have sense Kubuntu) by 13.10 - however anyone can run it right now.
Of course you can compile it yourself (I also do compile my own to get the old oss sound modules...) or if your not skilled in this are you can use the mainline ppa
- i.e you can get it now.
I imagine Arch will have the kernel days after the final release also.
Re: More and better support for 64-bit ARM chips
With ARM Hardware beware, if your stupid enough to actually fund Microsoft any pay for a Windows 8 based ARM device you don't even have the choice for installing most versions of Linux - thanks to MS's anticompetitive (and shortly no doubt to be declared illegal in the EU) policy of making it mandatory that the user **cannot** disable secure boot on ARM based H/W.
Be it a tablet, desktop, laptop, server..
The other day it was announced that the ISS were replacing the OS used from Windows to Linux
If they had today chosen to install Windows 8 on ARM hardware in the first place they would not have the choice to replace the OS with Linux in the future (at least most versions), you are stuck with Windows like a terminal disease thanks to secure boot, you can't even install Windows 7.
i.e if an organisation today made the decision to today run Windows 8 on ARM based hardware (servers, laptops, etc are coming out now) then they would not have the choice to run (most versions of) Linux on it in the future.
i.e the use of Windows is a shortsighted solution that may bite your ass in the future.
To see a good post as to why MS's kernel is about 1/2 a decade behind Linux see this interesting post from a Windows kernel dev - explaining why Windows kernel is far behind alternatives.
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