Re: Only windows lets you upgrade...
You haven't heard of Ubuntu then?
(or maybe Android)
3536 posts • joined 22 Apr 2007
You haven't heard of Ubuntu then?
(or maybe Android)
Pretty much. Hence my wish to expand my skillset to something not so easily outsourced. Not to mention I have a fair amount of warehouse and retail experience, so if someone's on a sickie and I don't have anything that desperately needs to be done that day, I can always offer myself to tip or load the 40 tonner that's just pulled up. Or maybe sit on the tills. Or perhaps do some customer service for a bit. A one-day £150-or-so refresher course later, and you now have an extra fork lift driver on your payroll. That's me.
Unfortunately, if you're working for a business that can outsource your job to India for 50p an hour.. you're screwed. Fortunately, it's not so easy to outsource "holy shit, we need someone in the warehouse right now". Even temp agencies can't do that as quickly as it'd take me to go from the office to the shop floor.
Apparently IBM are rather desperate to take people on with zOS/JCL/COBOL/etc experience, hence they encouraged the university to offer the module as an option.
Well. Everyone and their mother knows PHP, Ruby, Java, 'web design' and possibly even some C/C++. COBOL though? Not so much.
And after a couple of days of studying it, I can see why. Godawful excuse for a programming language. You think Python enforcing whitespace indents is bad? Wait until you get a load of "well it means different things depending on which column you put the character in." A real throwback to the days of punchcards and tape.
But hey, that's what a lot of critical finance software is written in and it's not going to get ported any time soon. I already know the usual languages.. why not put something obscure but valuable on the CV?
(and why the hell does z/OS use right control instead of enter?)
Come now. I like to giggle at the iFlaw as much as anybody, but that antenna problem was fixed two iterations ago.
It's a little like some retard coming along and going "lol Linux, the one where you have to fuck about with some xorg.conf file before you can get out of DOS mode?!"
What? My car has 6 forward gears and sod all torque yet it'll happily cruise along in 6th at 30mph. If you're spending most of your time at 30 in 3rd, you need to make your way to the nearest naughty step and think about what you've done.
Not everyone has a 7 litre big-block engine under the hood. If it has 6 forward gears and comfortably cruises at 30mph in top gear, I can promise you it has a lot more than "sod all" torque.
30mph in top gear? Most cars in this country probably wouldn't make it up a 1:100 gradient like that. Think 1.3 litre Ford Fiesta. A friend's classic BMW M535 might make it like that, but that's three and a half litres of fun that sits on the spot making smoke from the tyres if you even think about twitching the accelerator too hard.
Get a bicycle, you green-faced cunts. Nobody is stopping you.
I think my response is something like "do I have a choice in the matter?"
The answer is obviously no unless you can survive without food obtained by going outside.
So therefore it is a tax.
I don't think I would want to ride so close behind a vehicle that I'm in its slipstream.
I know people do, and there is a phrase that describes them perfectly: Wannabe Roadkill.
"There is this little thing called "Stop-Start" just thought I'd let you all know :)"
You know I wonder about the whole stop-start thing. Sure you might spend a little less in fuel, but doesn't stopping and re-cranking the engine every couple of minutes cause extra stress to the parts? As soon as the thing stops, the oil starts flowing back into the sump unless you have some kind of sticky MagnatecTM-like addition to it.
Then you get that lovely metal-on-metal contact until it starts flowing again.
"3. I would rather pay a few pounds extra for fuel than have to spend a thousand on a new bike and all that safety gear your nanny government would force me to wear."
Where are you buying your bikes? Halfords or Harrods?
"160p HD works with roughly 250kb/s :-) so what are some people on about! Your eyes cant see much difference anyway! 1080p requires more 750 - 850kb/s."
160p "HD"? Whut? You sure that wasn't a typo of "720p"?
Anyway, let's assume 0.25 bits per pixel compressed video in 1080p.
1920*1080 = 2,073,600 pixels.
2,073,600 * 0.25 = 518,400, divided by 8 = 64,800 bytes per frame.
At 25 frames per second, that's 1,620,000 bytes per second. Quite a bit more than 850 kilobits. In fact several times as much. At 30fps it goes to 1,944,000 bytes per second, which doesn't really leave much of a budget out of that 2mbit/sec. None at all with a very large amount owing, actually. In fact you wouldn't get much change out of two megaBYTES per second.
Now remember that video streams are not regular, and tend to have keyframes every few seconds followed by a bunch of delta information showing how stuff has changed since the last keyframe. Suddenly, that 2mbit/sec limit seems a little... small.
Of course, not many people will play 1080p over a mobile phone... but some people have tablets, and some of us do like to tether, or plug our HDMI-port-enabled phones into TVs.
(edited because of a few schoolboy errors.. the real figures are even worse!)
"Also, it took them far too long to be honest about it, and they are still lying by stating that their data is unlimited. It isn't, it is limited, by a speed cap."
Though when has "unlimited" ever meant "unlimited speed"?
I'll grant you the "unlimited" word has been truly abused by mobile ISPs, but as long as you can download as much stuff as the pipe is capable of without incurring extra fees or a cut-off.. then I'd happily call that unlimited. Unlimited use.
Well, Virgin do throttle their land-line broadband.. but only after you download a gigashitload all at once during peak hours, and only for the duration of the day.
Honestly, they're possibly the best land-line ISP out there. Just a shame the mobile offering seems a bit pants.
For the £25pcm One plan on a rolling monthly deal, you can use your unlimited data for whatever you want.
Just like it should be. Why the hell should 50MB direct to a phone mean anything different to 50MB dished out to a portable access point?
"The vast majority of Enterprises that use Linux use Redhat, so it's the best example. Anyway, SUSE also costs more than Windows..."
You are paying for vastly different things with Windows vs Linux. Windows buys you a product and maybe some help to re-install it if you screw up.
OpenSUSE buys you anything from the basic "Windows level" of support, right up to 24x7 access with 1 hour response time for high severity cases. Costs are between a few hundred dollars and six grand depending on how much coverage you want, for a five year subscription. One year subscriptions are vastly cheaper. This is assuming you even need support and you're not some high-tech company that rolls its own software and can support itself quite nicely.
You're also probably comparing the price of OpenSUSE support with the price of a basic desktop copy of Windows 8, which is already being subsidised heavily by sales of Windows 7.
Try like for like. Windows Server datacentre-edition will probably give you similar features to your average Linux. Only a snip at $4,809 open no-level estimated retail price. Basically "as much as we can screw you for, unless you point out the price of a Linux support package, in which case we'll drop those dollars faster than a whore's knickers in the presence of a $100 bill".
And let us not forget the money Microsoft is screwing people out of for spurious unproven patent claims. That's probably driving the price of your average Novell product right up.
Now that does look interesting. However, from the compulsory "you must have an account", I can guess it's a cloud-based (ie: all your base are belong to us) solution.
I would like to be wrong.
"Linux is only free if your time has no value."
What a load of tired, clichéd old bollocks.
And what happens when Windows, Office or IIS/Exchange goes tits-up, as they very often do? "Microsoft software: It's only expensive if your time has no value."
Doesn't quite work, that one.
I still remember when that retail reward shit started up.
Saved up just enough points for a full copy of Win XP or Office. Went to reclaim.
And they'd pumped the points value up to insane amounts, impossible to achieve even if you did every single damned test on the site. I might be waaaay out of retail sales now, but if that's an indication of how Microsoft is (still) treating people who sell its products... well.
Fuck you, Microsoft. Fuck you with a barbed wire dildo.
You mean like buying a device where the case is made entirely of flammable metal?
If this were a car design, the first exploding chassis would be a recall. When the first Surface explodes in a brilliant white flare, will there be a redesign?
Or are you saying that lithium batteries do not periodically go pop? Like a lot more often than the LHC destroys the earth?
But hey, let's throw petrol on the fire. That'll help.
There is still a massive difference between melting a hole in a can (been there, done that) and causing magnesium to start going off.
For one, the aluminium stops reacting when you take the heat source away.
Seriously, what the fuck do people teach kids in science class these days? How the fuck is THIS anything whatsoever like the puny non-self-sustaining glow you get from a thin aluminium can while hitting it with a fucking blowtorch?
I say again, encasing lithium in magnesium is a disaster waiting to happen.
There is a difference. And no, I'm not on about grinding metal up into fine particles either.
(otherwise I'd choose 7 of 9 or maybe a three)
Oh, I think anybody would choose 7 of 9. At least, any hetero male and perhaps a few scissor sisters too.
"Any component has a limited life."
And on many laptops, the fan can be replaced.
On most tablets, there is no fan.
Fans tend to be the first thing to go.
There's distinctly more chance of a lithium fire causing a magnesium fire than there is of a couple of protons causing planetary annihalation.
Yeah, I'd still rather chance a battery fire with an aluminium case over a magnesium one any day. Neither would be preferable, but at least you don't have the added extra chance of a second sun being born in your living room.
Actually the S/P is equipped like most Notebooks/Ultrabooks that come with an SSD. If you want more than a 128GB SSD there are not that many choiced left. You either go "spinning metal"(1) or you go well above 1000€ even for a notebook and there are few COTS units available.
Question is, do you really need SSD? Wouldn't a flash cache + spinning metal give you a load of the advantages and some actual storage space? Not that any buyers will have the option of finding out.
Wow, that's remarkably ignorant, check out the size of the boost library and platform SDKs
1.59GB for v1.51.0 of a framework that contains so many millions of lines of code that it makes your average Linux kernel look tiny. If you're stupid enough to link to every single library, then no wonder your code is bloated. I'm using Boost right now. What's your point? Asides to prove that 80GB really isn't enough?
Unless you're recording media, video at that, how do you (permanently) use up 80GB in a few minutes?
GB != Gb. I could fill up 10GB (or 80Gb) in a few minutes while copying 5-10 films over. Or maybe 2 films, Boost, a couple of other frameworks (hello, 961 megabytes of Ogre) and a compiler. Let's say Code::Blocks, because the full MSVC is just a weeny bit on the huge side and #pragma once can kiss my bell end.
Even with 80GB free, that's a big chunk of space gone and I'm only just started.
Yeah, cause that's *exactly* the work process of a software developer...
You make it seem like that.
M Gale = Eadon?
I disagree with you, therefore I'm Eadon.
On top of being a shill for Google, that's the best accusation yet.
Fans have a limited life - they must be replaceable in any sane computer design.
Or at the very least, they must make the awful grinding noise fixable by thumping the thing when it's warmed up.
A standard Bic lighter will burn at somewhere between 420C and 800C. A windproof or "jet" lighter will go to a thousand-and-odd with the maximum temperature of a butane flame being about 1970C.
So instead of some nasty bastard putting a ciggy mark or a hole in your laptop, they get to cause a metal fire that will practically burn itself through the floor. That's if the battery doesn't explode on you. If Microsoft ever get to make enough units for the miniscule chance of a battery failure to rear its head and go "oh hai statistics", you're going to end up with a hell of a lot more than some warped plastic and and a nasty smell.
Incidentally, magnesium flames are rather blindingly brilliant.
But do you need a full PC in a tablet?
Well that might be nice, but you just told me that it's not a full PC in a tablet.
And I have a terabyte on this machine that's getting dangerously full after two years. Your point is what?
I also have laptops, and I'm constantly fighting with the Available Space issue. But then, I do think it appropriate that a hard drive is a good place to put, oh I don't know.. films, music, all that kind of stuff that you might want to use a media consumption device like the Surface for.
80GB? It might last me a few weeks. 80Gb? Probably a few minutes. I know plenty of less-technical people who also bought cheap computers with small (funnily enough, around the 120GB mark) drives, and they are also fighting for free space because these are people that actually use their computers for stuff. They don't just sit in the corner looking pretty and occasionally get switched on to edit a text file.
Now you as a software developer can probably make do on 80GB. It's not like a bunch of C++ source code for a project really takes up all that much space. However, saying "it's not meant for that" when Microsoft are trying to tell us all that the Surface is "everything at once" is disingenious at best.
The Surface Pro is sold as a premium product. Priced as a premium product.
And specced like a toy.
"You possibly don't realise how much space 80Gb is..."
I've worked with computers that have winchester hard drives. 10MB of double-height 5.25" fun with a worm gear powering the read/write head and separate ribbon cables for address and data. 10MB is an enormous amount if the only thing you work with is early 1980s software and text files.
And 80GB is a tiny amount if you are working with modern software and images.
"The Surface Pro is custom moulded Magnesium and is incredibly strong."
Mixing flammable metal with lithium batteries. Sounds like a good idea to me.
And magnesium's less flammable relatives seem to be either poisonous, irritant, or laxative. Again, what could possibly go wrong?
And when Oracle manage to sort their certificates out so I know what I'm downloading, I might download it.
Until then, browser plugin disabled.
I see this as "You will have Unity whether you like it or not. And no cheating by apt-getting Gnome or KDE."
Perhaps time to seek a different Linux until Canonical figure out what the fuck they are doing.
Pah, Components! American components. Russian components.
All made in Taiwan!
Now *CLONK* THIS is how we *CLONK* FIX problems on *CLONK* RUSSIAN space station *CLONK* because I *CLONK* want to go home *CLONK* and I *CLONK* DON'T want to *CLONK* STAY here *CLONK* ANY MORE!
Unfortunately Sony is married to Sony BMG, which is not a tech company and has a tendency to repetatively do stupid things.
"The proprietary memory card/charger thing was always annoying too, at least one of these has been ditched"
Not sure about newer Sony-only phones, but my old SE Arc S uses standard Micro USB (which fits annoyingly loosely) and Micro SD (which fits more snugly but is hidden under the battery).
Does get a bit toasty when it's busy though.
 Something I'd like to see in smartphone reviews - How easy is it to de-Twatterise and un-Faceb0rk the thing?
From 4.x onward you can disable bundled crapware. You just can't uninstall it, so it still sits there taking up space.
There's a reason every nut and bolt in a NASA project is double, triple and quadruple checked before being signed off by umpteen different groups to say it's fit for purpose.
Keeping a controlled explosion under control while it farts things into orbit without blowing up is a really big reason. I'll bet SpaceX don't just stick a dragon and a falcon on a stick and light the blue touchpaper either.
Eh. I've willingly installed a Gnome panel widget that's the equivalent of Mac's Finder. Type in a word. It searches your documents. Then other files, then Google, Yahoo, Wikipedia online dictionaries and a bunch of other search services (or no search services) in whatever order you desire. I think it also has a calculator option, though it's been a while.
Though having it all on by default is a bit of a pain.
gnome-system-monitor does that quite well, though I'm not sure what the Unity equivalent would be. Maybe gnome-system-monitor.
Or a combination of the ps and kill commands, if you're a command-line junkie.
Every single PLC on the planet is governed by rules that dictate they be bastards. I don't hugely trust Google either, but they still make the biggest phone OS on the planet and.they are distinctly unbastardly about letting you have a copy. Source too, if you like.
Now, about the lack of a post-install permission denial... Get your shit in order Google, before someone else does it for you.
Cracks me up how android users want to tout garbage things like that as a selling point...
Yep, real funny how I can plug my phone into someone's telly and be watching films and youtube with them all night.
Well, we were watching Jim Carrey.
Well, IPv4 uses 16 bits to store the packet length. Basically, 65,536 combinations or 0-65,535. IPv6 has the same limit unless the "Jumbo Packet" option is turned on, in which case the packet can be up to 4GB in size.*
So basically, it was an IPv6 attack with the Jumbo Packet option turned on. Why routers will even process a ping that's a Jumbo Packet, I don't know.
*Wikipedia is your friend. Even if it isn't an academic source.
I wouldn't call them ugly.
Maybe "well hung".
Well, if it had more than an 800mhz CPU. Okay.. maybe "built like a brick shithouse".
Yeah, that's more like it.
"Without the 'biz, we would never have heard of Elvis, or Fleetwood Mac or even Haydn"
The question is, would we care?
"filmed on a mobile phone"
I think you're trying to imply that it's impossible for an amateur band to buy an hour or two of studio time and an engineer for the duration.
If it was impossible for anybody except Google to make an Android compatible OS, then maybe they'd get hit.
The only vendor lock Google have is the Play Store. Not exactly insurmountable.
Because if you think you have the message, you probably won't bother digging any further.