Re: Game resellers as "parasites"
You should stop looking in the mirror while posting
You should come up with a good reason as to why I can't give away my own stuff.
3546 posts • joined 22 Apr 2007
You should stop looking in the mirror while posting
You should come up with a good reason as to why I can't give away my own stuff.
Nope. I wanted to point out that your solution is the typical stupid concept of "I restrict myself to hurt the big companies" bla bla coming from the Penguin sector. I go to a fitness studio because I am NOT willing to restrict myself to a pair of dumbbells! So they are NOT the solution. And Linux is similar "You do not need this!" is the PenguBoy mantra when stuff does not work / software does not run. Sorry but I decide what I need/want. If you can not deliver - I buy something else.
Ironically not a console - never owned one.
So not going along with the bullshit is "hurting myself"?
These are toys.
I have toys that do two hundred miles per hour at ridiculously low altitude, strimming the tops from daisies in a screaming blur of yellow, black and high-nitro exhaust smoke. How the fuck is not wanting to go along with DRM bullshit limiting me in any way whatsoever? The idiots want to push people like me away from the "AAA" games industry, that's fine by me.
I decide what I need/want. If you cannot deliver, I buy something else. I want something I can then give away or resell at a later date. I want something that doesn't require bullshit spyware installing. I want a product that is mine, and if Valve cannot provide that, then Valve do not get my money. Weston UK might though. Their toys are the dog's bollocks.
So asides throwing more insults at me, why should I be banned from giving someone my copy of a game?
Well I don't (yet), but after four years doing the access and then honours degree course for Computer Games Technology, I think it might be nice to make a few simple 50p things at some point. Work up to bigger things later on.
Don't worry, you'll be able to transfer ownership. As you can see, I'm not a big fan of bullshit restrictions management.
That is an ORIGINAL part. No problem with that IF it exists. I was refering to copys from another manufacturer.
You mean like the original game copies that I'm arguing you should be allowed to dispose of as you see fit? Including giving away and reselling?
You want to re-sell the bible so that is not an option.
I want to dispose of my property how I see fit, whether that's a copy of the King James Edition, or a copy of Doom.
Now stop being silly. It just looks bad on you.
game developers are moving parts of the game to server based infrastructures anyway to run various backend parts of games
For no other reason than DRM.
Oh and since copying a book is so simple would you mind copying the bible for me, it is only a thousand pages or so, done in an afternoon or three. Time needed is part of easy...
Sure. Guillotine the spine off and shove it through a document feeder. Come back in half an hour.
If it's a "high speed" scanner as used in the Census, make that 5 minutes.
I think there is a key point that is being missed here - games players (indeed all software users) now expect updates to the software as standard. Gone are the days when you literally bought a shrink-wrapped piece of software and used it bugs and all.
When was that ever the case except with games consoles that had no patching mechanism?
A second hand car has wear-and-tear, it degrades over time and that accounts for it's devaluation. A video game is basically identical regardless of whether or not it's brand new of been resold 15 times.
What you're saying is that something lasts a long time, so it should have a tax on every time it changes hands.
Ah, the Penguin solution. It does about half what the real thing does in twice the time but it's free. And ugly. Thanks but I Keep with Windows and the cute aerobic teacher.
So what you're basically saying is that I'm right, you want to charge multiple times for the same thing, and now you're going to throw insults.
The independent developers would like to fill in for EA and others but they are busy developing fully functional OSS drivers for ATI and NVIDIA as well as Exchange and Sharepoint replacements
So are you going to carry on stereotyping, or are you just going to admit that you want to be paid multiple times for one copy of the product?
Oh come on. There are all sorts of situations where you shell out a sum of money but don't get to legally own whatever it is. If you don't want to buy stuff like that don't, but don't pretend its somehow unique to DRM software.
You mean when you're renting stuff?
Good luck reselling your TV license.
Don't have one. In any case, just like road tax, you can return your TV license for a refund of any unused time on it. The license is a tax, not a product.
Good luck selling your TV. OH WAIT.
There's a set of dumbells knocking about the house.
Funnily enough I don't have to pay to use them.
I'm sure some people mourned the loss of the telegraph, too, but that doesn't mean we should have let the telegraph industry survive longer by letting them make special rules.
Funnily enough, you can send telegrams if you wish. The service was re-introduced by BT circa 2003-ish.
Mostly due to demand rather than some kind of effort to force email out through lobbying and lawyering, though. Somehow I can't see people lining up to demand that they be unable to give their stuff away.
"The games industry, in its current state, requires immediate termination with extreme prejudice."
Ok, but where does that get us...? I passionately feel that Indie developers should have easy access to the PS4 and Xbox1 to insure innovation prospers....
You would have a different games industry in a different state. In fact I think if EA, Ubisoft, Valve and the rest of the psychopaths were to fuck off right now, that would be a crapton of market for indy developers to capture. They'd fill that vacuum up in no time, I'm sure.
Anything is better than the current state.
"Actually, it is optional. Not all games on Steam use Steamworks for the physical disc release. They tend to do so if both releases are simultaneous, but there's no requirement for it."
If it says "you must accept the Steam Subscriber Agreement (SSA)" on the back of the box, or if it says "requires an Internet connection to activate" for a game that has no need to connect to anything, then no thanks. I'm not subscribing to Steam, to play with a toy. Unfortunately, these days, that's every single game in the shop. The fact that Steam is so successful indicates that there are a large number of people quite happy with being arse-raped by the games industry. Given the nature of the product, I imagine many of these are kids and teenagers that don't know any better and think that this is how things are supposed to be.
LIke I say, I'll give my money to people who deserve it. Valve can get fuck all, which doesn't mean I won't play their games. They just won't get paid for it.
The disc is merely a one-time-use key with a copy of the installation so you can do it offline.
No, it is not. Valve might like you to think it is. Why should you care what Valve think unless you are personally benefitting from this arrangement?
IOW, what happens when ALL of them do it? Abandon gaming?
In a heartbeat and without looking back once.
Fortunately, ALL of them won't do it, because "ALL of them" includes the occasional indy dev house or publisher who don't want to shaft their customers. When the "AAA" games industry implodes and disappears up its own arse, these are the guys who will be left making a profit.
But there HAS been controversy surrounding the cassette recorder and the VTR, to say nothing of CD and DVD recorders (both PC-based and consumer).
And the people "enabling" the controversy promptly got told to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Books can not be "copied and sold on" as easily as a game can. And they typically take longer to reach the "used book" market than games.
They most certainly can be copied, more easily than games. Place each page face down on a scanner and have fun. Laborious is not hard. It'll just take a while, and it only needs to be done once. Even so... so what? Not an excuse to say that I am no longer allowed to dispose of my property in whatever way I see fit.. and yes, one working copy of a game is my property if I have bought or been given it, whether new or second hand.
(3rd party body parts have legal problems)
Never heard of after-market parts? Sure, if your car is under warranty, you only use official parts if you want to keep the warranty. Otherwise, there's plenty of mods and bits for cars that have nothing to do with the original manufacturers.
I still don't see why preventing someone from disposing of their own property however they wish, is ever a good thing. It's a game, not a nuclear weapon.
You could always share one single account. That's if you can't bear to just dump the machine instead.
You'd share all the same titles, as well as presumably, the same gamertag, the same achievements, the same scores, records, save files, contacts... and the advert bots will send you spam that assumes you're some kind of hermaphrodite.
Could get interesting.
and of course you can also buy the PC DVD version of the game, without Steam, without restrictions, but for more money.
I only wish that were true. Sorry, but every single physical copy in the shops will have either Steam, or some other form of restrictions management, many of which will either limit the install count or, like Steam/Steamworks, prevent resale entirely.
And all of them want bullshit online checking. Been a long while since I bought a mainstream PC game. My later titles are all Steam-free, and in many cases entirely copy-protection-free indy titles. They deserve my money. EA and Valve do not.
Gratuitious Space Battles utterly owns, by the way.
So you're saying that if you pay over the odds for a crap game, that's currently alright because you can get some money back by foisting it of on some other unsuspecting sap? Do unto others 'cause others have done unto you, eh?
One man's muck is another man's brass. I've had a couple of high-rated games that I've played a couple of times and then never touched again. FIFA on the NDS for one.
And what do you think of the game publishers themselves, willingly foisting shit upon the public? And then not even letting them GIVE it away?
The games industry, in its current state, requires immediate termination with extreme prejudice.
. I haven't heard of any case of "I sell games to be able to afford new games" and I live in a pretty poor country (I hope you'll understand that if you follow up with "I DO THIS", I won't consider it to be very credible).
How old are you?
I distinctly remember trading in a bunch of games to get a Sega Mega CD back in the day. I know a load of people who have traded in their games. There's a CeX in both of the nearby cities that are both chock full of pre-owned console games, though thanks to Steam's bullshit, they don't accept PC games any more.
This is not "I DO THIS". This is "EVERYONE DOES THIS". And if you could do it, I bet you'd be doing it.
Whether it benefits "the industry" or not is none of the industry's concern. It is my working copy, which I damned well will sell and to hell with anybody who wants to stop me. If that's going to kill the industry, then good. The industry, if it cannot survive second hand sales, deserves to die. In fact I can't wait for the current load of psychopathic bastards to hurry up and fuck off, so I can buy games from new companies, that cost less than 50 quid a title, don't want to install spyware, and don't break if I try to give them away.
Naw, they contain lithium. The more highly charged, the better condition it's in. You can extract the lithium foil and do various interesting things with it, including dipping it in water to watch it bubble, or watching it react with moisture in the air.
Difference is, it's all wrapped up and sealed inside, which is kind of why the packs swell up like balloons shortly before catching fire if you do something silly to them.
Oh, bear in mind that lithium is a rather nasty poison and will do funky things to your head before it kills you.
Half a second? That makes all the difference! Sell me an Android right now! Not.
And if you can't keep your phone out of your beer you are intellectually on par with a potato.
Slow news day on El Reg? This is sad even for the first Fanboy Church of Android.
To quote TFA:
A submerged Galaxy S4 will outlast an iPhone by half a second - 18.8s versus 18.3s - but when dropped from nine feet (2.74m) it's the S4's screen that shatters.
There are some seriously insecure fanboys on this comments section. WHERE IN THE FUCK WAS THIS TURNED INTO AN ANDROID VERSUS IPHONE SLAGFEST?
Who in the fuck even mentioned an iWotsit vs Droidthing argument about that?
Though if you think iOS isn't chock full of spyware (and very little support for rooted devices that get rid of it), you are quite the naïve little AC, aren't you?
I don't think I've found a motherboard yet that needs any drivers for any operating system whatsoever. It kind of raises the question of how you'd boot the thing up to install them if you did.
While TFA makes no mention as to the graphics chipset, the Brix site does say "Intel integrated graphics", which is completely unsurprising and a good indicator that this device will work in the toy unix without having to touch graphics drivers. Ditto "chipset" (which I guess includes the audio as well as north/southbridge) and other specifications. None of it seems to be too exotic.
If you're unable to get Linux working on this thing, I would be highly surprised.
However when the IRA were busy blowing a fucking big chunk out of Manchester, it was called "a bomb".
Or "a van packed with explosives".
Or "a ton of ANFO".
But hey, now we have newspeak. It's "an IED", which to me sounds more like a female contraception method.
Because drawing bezier curves is really part of the OS kernel's job.
Any dafter and you'd almost believe they would shove an entire Internet services suite into kernel space.
That's going to get about 50 upvotes, isn't it. Ah well.
Well it got one from me.
You too, 'coz a sense of humour is better than an iron fist.
Actually that's an idea.
Would the Reg consider doing a quick calculation on advert-worth-per-user, and offer an option for people to pay a monthly/yearly sum in return for The Reg with no MASSIVE ORANGE OFFICE 365 BORDERS and the likes?
"blah blah one person uses the Internet more than the other."
At the top level, ISPs will pay a flat rate, whether they transfer 40MB or 40PB. That's if the peering agreement isn't as simple as "you carry our packets, we carry yours."
Why this should translate at all into per-packet pricing for consumers is anybody's guess. I guess Orlowski knows.
By the way, what ISP do you have that doesn't provide its own email service? People use Gmail because they can't be bothered, or don't know how, to set up Outlook or Thunderbird, or they plain old don't know that their ISP provides webmail.
It's sort of okay, in the same way Clamwin is. Hardly the "comprehensive" tool that Microsoft say it is though. At least, not compared to a decent paid-for security suite. The same sort of picture emerges for Windows 8 as Windows 7.
If it was all that good, you can bet the AV firms would be shouting "Anti Trust" rather loudly.
I'm sure watching your bank account getting pennies drained off, or seeing that interesting video of you and the wife on youtube, is far less annoying than a few nagging tooltips.
If anything it is easier to make the free printer + ink extortion business model work with leccies.
Because that doesn't happen with Dino Juice at all.
True, and after about 20 minutes of that when the batteries in the tesla are as flat a witches tit, you can hop into my lambo, do exactly the same - but with a _much_ better soundtrack, for an hour or two, then take it off the track, down to the pub for lunch and then home, passing the tesla, still doing tiny donuts - cos the extension lead is so short!
If you want to spend half a million quid on something that has four wheels and goes, you be my guest. A lambo can either be an awesome vehicle, or an expression of "I am a fucking tit", so which is it for you? Nobody, including me, said current batteries are good enough. What was it I said? Oh yeah, "nobody wants to be stuck in the middle of nowhere without a means to fill 'er up." I said that. Scroll up and check if you like.
Fuel cells are going to come down in price. I can see them being what future EV cars will use rather than lithium or lead packs. Eventually it's gonna happen, because there's only so much dead dinosaur juice in the ground but there's a rather longer-lasting amount of fissile material and even more sunshine.
So yes, that Tesla will still be going, long after your Lambo has had to be converted to diesel and you've had to get 100 acres of rapeseed plantation to keep it going.
Or it could just be that electric cars are a crap idea
I want to put you in a nice powerful electric car and then see you make that same statement after spending a little while doing not much else except drawing big black circles on the tarmac. They've got a higher power to weight than internal combustion engines and virtually zero noise.
do little or nothing to Save The World (tm)
Who cares about saving the world when you have maximum torque all the way from 0RPM to max, so you don't even need gears?
and almost nobody wants one even with the large government subsidies that they get (paid from out taxes).
Nobody wants to get stuck in the middle of nowhere without a means to fill 'er up. Don't confuse that with "nobody wants an electric car".
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT...
Not without the specialized equipment and trained experts that went WITH THE OIL COMPANIES they won't.
The trained experts that will work for whoever pays them, you mean? Look at the economic climate. I reckon there's a few of these experts looking for jobs right now. Drilling and refining equipment can be bought.
Do you think that the country's energy supply is not a national security issue?
Threaten to move your wells out of that country.
Government says "fine. Fuck off, don't come back." Sets up its own wells.
Governments might be notorious for not running efficient businesses, but I reckon even they could turn a profit on Black Gold.
As far as I'm aware, MJPEG is basically a whole shatload of jpeg pictures arranged in a container. So, for every new frame, you have to send the whole screen. IIRC animated GIFs are, in most cases, sent as a bunch of delta values, so only what has changed since the last frame is sent over the wire.
If you were streaming video, then MJPEG would probably be better (though nowhere near as good as one of the MPEG standards). For something where the only thing that might have changed is the mouse pointer though, animated GIF is probably better.
Though yes, the whole thing seems to have been "because it's cool" rather than "because it makes sense."
Oh come on downvoter, let's compare VNC with RDP shall we?
I'm the last person to cheer on Microsoft (okay, maybe Eadon is), but VNC is a shit protocol.
Not detracting from the amazingly hackerish thing this guy did, but VNC is still shit.
So probably about as efficient as VNC on its own then.
Bloody awful protocol, and usually used on systems that are running an Xorg/X11 server. Wasn't that originally designed to be a multi-user GUI anyway?
And who needs "classic shell" when one can put a toolbar on their desktop taskbar that points to %allusersprofile%\Start Menu? (OK, %allusersprofile%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu then.) No extra software needed.
Because while a similar hack works to replace the crappy pin-to-taskbar thing with the much more easy to read Quicklaunch bar that's been around since XP, trying it to get a Start Menu results in a hollowed out, ugly (uglier?) shell of a menu with no programs sent to it when they are installed, and no automatic placement of commonly used shortcuts right under a winkey press.
"As an updated win7, win8 ROCKS, in speed, in stability, and in some relevant extras, including ISO mounts and VMs without needing anything third party."
Have you actually tried running Windows 8 in a VM?
It's a bloody horrible mess of bugs and glitches, and if you should dare try Seamless Mode... well, just watch TIFKAM fall apart completely.
Nope. They'd just increase the price opaquely and call it "inflation".