3272 posts • joined 22 Apr 2007
You wouldn't expect an IT person to work for free if they tools which help automate their job eg building images for multiple use rather than installing everything from scratch...why should a company be any different?
And you think the person who created the "includes Firefox" build was hired specifically to make that particular build? Or is it that they probably perform all kinds of tasks within Dell, and creating the Firefox build was an hour or two of mucking about on top of their normal duties?
This is something that cost Dell close to zero to make, that they probably recouped the costs on with the sale of a single, no-Firefox PC. Dell are also breaking Mozilla's license agreement by charging money for software that Mozilla stipulate should be freely available, which is kind of why Mozilla is a bit miffed at Dell right now.
And no, no I don't expect the company to work for free. If you've not noticed, PCs are quite expensive. Asking for £16 just to select the image with Firefox on it is a piss-take. Usually when people rob old grannies and other weak or disadvantaged people, we slap them in a prison cell for a while. Or perhaps just slap them a few times. Wonder what should happen with Dell, then?
Re: A completely fair charge
and at 50p there'd be no profit for them.
Quick, someone tell Google and Apple. All those 62p games are going to make them bankrupt!
Seriously, for the "service" of selecting the "includes Firefox" install image? 50p is probably a bit too high. I'm probably being generous and the price should be more like 10p (or perhaps free, you know, as per the license terms), but hey, gotta make a profit.
The knuckle-draggers also don't seem to have noticed that what Mozilla imposes restrictions on is the use of their trademarks, specifically when used in ways they don't approve for distribution of their product.
Amusingly enouogh, if it were the GPL rather than their own MPL, all of this would be perfectly legal. The software may be free, but you can charge as much as you like for the service of packaging or installing it, or providing a place to download it.
Re: A completely fair charge
And if it was 50p, I'd agree.
Sixteen fucking quid?
Re: For some reason...
WhatsApp can fuck off. The first time I heard about it was when it ninja-installed itself alongside something else. It has nothing I want, I never use it, it got uninstalled as soon as I found out I'd installed it. It can go die in the same fire as browser toolbars.
Re: I must be getting old...
It was a problem. It got fixed. At least according to a "diodesign" comment I read on an earlier article.
(and who is DioDesign anyway?)
Re: Why all the fear?
The police will only intervene if they think you're up to no good.
In my own experience, there are officers out there who can make up any excuse in the world to meet their stop and search quota.
My favourite was "seen in an area known for drug use". Really? Would that be.. uhm.. everywhere?
I even saw the pair of them next day and one of the cheeky fuckers asked me if I enjoyed "being processed".
I asked him if he'd be more worried if I said yes, sweetie. Well that one triggered a nervous laugh. I just got on the bus as it had just arrived. Never seen 'em since. Still got the chit though.
And don't get me started on the "processing" I got for the reasons of "seen filming a police officer"...
Re: Not sure where you work...
The other issue, is when it's custom made, if the guy that wrote it buggers off, and there is little or know documentation, it leaves a whole load of shit behind....just look at the banks for a classic example of this.
That's why you beat them about the head with the Big Book of SSADM before letting 'em near a compiler.
Okay, so you could probably pronounce it as "sadism", and probably compress the entire methodology down to "anal retentive attention to detail and documentation", but hey, if you want everything documented, you document everything. Before writing a bunch of undocumented code.
Or at least encourage them to use Doxygen and heavy use of remarks. Owt's better than nowt.
Re: Data Format, not Applications
it's like suggesting a professional graphics house replace Photoshop with GIMP.
Honestly while The GIMP has that truly weird multi-window interface, it's quite capable, even if not quite as advanced as Photoshop, which is only one component of the entire Adobe creative suite.
However, given Adobe's recent "cloud"-only subscription bullshit, I could see some companies tempted to make the switch to just about anything else, even if it's only Paint Shop Pro and Corel Draw.
Re: Open Source Means Choice
Also: name the features that I actually care about that your proprietary software has which the open source stuff doesn't...
Table creation that works well.
Re: Got what they deserved.
Anyone stupid enough to 'invest' in something like Bitcoin has frankly got what they deserve.
A shitload of profit? Because that's what a lot of people seem to have got out of it.
How many mathematically based applications have stood the test of time? MD5? DES? Even the seemingly best (mathematical) ideas have flaws that come to light and how can you base financial transactions on something that cannot be trusted?
You do know that money is numbers, right?
if someone steals your money then how the hell do you ever prove who did it and get it back?
You have that same problem with cash, gold bars and property in general. I guess we should abandon property?
I believe the phrased "a fool and his money are soon parted" fits well here.
A phrase that a few bankers seem to be intimately familiar with.
Re: I'm no Frontiersman
Low end ones (such as some fot eh USb miners) can be had for around £5, so only out by 3 orders of magnitude.
And unless you're using someone else's electricity, the hashes per watt-hour rating would probably end up costing you more than you gain?
That said, a Via APC or Raspi or similar attached to a whacking big battery and a solar panel...
...naw, that'd probably still cost you more than you'd gain in any realistic amount of time.
Re: Hope the contract includes upgrading the website to mulitingual support
They should show an English flag and if anyone doesn't like that, they are free to go and make up their own language and use that instead and stick their own flag next to it.
I don't think I've ever seen St George's Cross as a language option. Union Flag perhaps, but that's not exactly "English".
Re: @M Gale - Unfair Tax?
You're still talking about road tax, when I'm on about the telly tax. As is, well, everyone else.
You want it, you pay for it.
Re: @M Gale - Unfair Tax?
The colloquial term is road tax, and you can wriggle as much as you like. If you're on a scooter, which can't go on motorways, you pay massively less tax on it. If you're on a bicycle, you don't pay any tax on it.
And it's still a stupid analogy, which has nothing to do with the idiot box. However, your insistance that I call road tax "vehicle excise duty" shines a light on the whole "it's not a tax, it's a license" bullshit. It is a tax. On the idiot box.
It needs to go.
Re: @M Gale - Unfair Tax?
Whilst so-called "road tax" goes into the same big pot of general taxation as everything else (at least in the UK), if you don't have a motor vehicle, you don't pay road tax.
Electric bicycles with a motor power of less than 250 watts and a top speed of less than 15mph do not count as motor vehicles in UK law, by the way. Your mileage may vary, but considering you're calling it "a motorway" and not "a freeway", I guess not.
Also little 50cc thingies that aren't allowed on motorways pay vastly, immensely less road tax than a car or more powerful motorbike.
What this has to do with the goggle box, I have no idea. Nevertheless, next please!
Re: I hope you don't have kid's
Because you never went to school?
Comparing education to television. Really now.
Re: Take your glasses off if you want to continue this conversation...
Maybe in your head it'll go like that.
Personally I'd rather not start fights. People tend to die in fights. This isn't a ring, there are no Queensberry rules, and nothing's stopping the Glass wearer from responding by using a hard kick, firm squeeze (or perhaps an outright bite) to remove your ability to ever make children.
They'd probably get away with it under a self defense ruling, too. So, perhaps your more polite first idea should be where you draw the line, eh?
Re: Appropriate reaction
You should learn to read.
It wouldn't teach them to. Call it "lead by example."
Re: Appropriate reaction
I would think "go out and buy a better one then" would be sufficient enough to teach the value of money, without teaching them to steal from people that are smaller than they are.
Re: He previously complained bitterly about the lack of hand lotion.
Ganging up on a single person to beat the living shit out of them takes balls?
Re: I have to wonder.
Or rather, compromise a popular website with a hidden canvas element and some websocket funkiness.
In fact, after a bit of Googling around, getting data out of a WebGL shader program seems to be scarily possible, in much the same way as getting data out of a generic GLSL shader program. Pretend the array of data is a texture, pass the texture in, work on the texture, read the texture out again. Or pretend the data is an array of vertices, depending on which type of shader you're co-opting, I suppose.
Y'know I'm tempted to see if it drops below $100 then buy one just to see what it does.
Worst comes to worst, I'm out by about £60. Or it could bounce right up again and I can cash out for £600.
I have to wonder.
How long until this, plus some webgl, gets co-opted to use the GPUs of web site visitors to mine coins?
Assuming WebGL can be thus co-opted, of course.
Re: Care-o-meter: LOW <-----------------> HIGH
Can you imagine launching a UK website and that happening during your first week? Goodbye business.
Honestly, relying on natural search rankings during your first week is not a good strategy. That's what Adwords are there for. They cost less than you think. I remember about £20/week and some intelligently-chosen keywords resulting in hundreds of thousands of ad views across Google affiliates within a few days. Quite a few conversions, too.
Once you're established, people are talking about you in forums and your natural ranking starts getting bumped up, then you can drop the Adwords campaigns.
Now I'm not sure what happened for you to have your Google ranking dropped. You haven't mentioned which domain you're talking about, and I guess that Reg moderators might /dev/null the post if you did. However, I think you have to accept that with any search engine, you are going to go up and down the rankings based on quite a number of criteria. So long as those criteria aren't "we just don't like you" or "we're about to launch a competing service", there really isn't anything that any monopolies commission should be getting involved with.
Also, first post eh? Hi.
Re: Care-o-meter: LOW <-----------------> HIGH
people have become more aware of how Google are abusing their ability to gather and profile data. I for one certainly do not want my emails read through, scanned, profiled and used to force advertising onto me/sold to the highest bidder/passed over to the NSA...
Google have been putting targetted adverts into Gmail for a lot longer than the past couple of years. Whatever your opinion of it, this has precious little to do with whether they have a search engine monopoly, whether they are abusing it, and whether anything should be done about it. They also don't pass your information on to advertisers. As someone who has set up Adwords campaigns, I have to say I have not been fed anybody's email data yet.
So until suitable competition can gain traction in the search market...
Bing, Yahoo, Duckduckgo, plenty out there. You want to set up your own web spider and database? Google cannot stop you.
it can be surmised that Google effectively own the internet (or most the useful bits at least).
Really, no. You can firewall the entire Google IP range, and the rest of the Internet just carries on working.
I can't choose to block sites that use Google analytics, for example.
Yes you can. Most sites that use Analytics will continue to work when you script-block the crap out of Ganalytics. The rest are just shitty sites.
I'm amazed that anyone is still cheering them on.
Not so much cheering them on, as much as countering some of the Microsoft-sponsored bullshit being spread around. Privacy arguments may or may not be valid, but this has nothing at all to do with their dominance in search. The privacy arguments should also be aimed at Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo and any other business. Your data is worth money, and businesses are after money. It really is that simple.
Re: Care-o-meter: LOW <-----------------> HIGH
Done anything about, especially when the only people complaining are "vertical search" linkfarms sponsored by Microsoft of all corporations? Perhaps not. Especially considering you can change search engines probably more easily than you can change your socks, with less impact on the rest of the Internet than, oh, changing operating systems has on your software collection.
Really, when Google demoted all of these shysters a couple of years ago, people were cheering the chocolate factory on. What's changed in the last couple of years?
inb4 "LOL it's Android you gonna get haxed from here to Mars and back. You should use Apple. Or Windows 8. Proper secure operating systems. Fucking Linux fanboys."
That a scary version of saying "type the URL into the address bar"?
I think you're confusing an argument on the Internet with actually getting worked up. Over toys. Of which there are far better available.
After that no further internet connection is required for either.
Really? Try copying that game out of your Steamapps folder and running it without Steam. Any game that uses Steamworks, which is the vast majority of them, will fail.
Try keeping an archive of that game on a USB stick or something. Try installing it without the Internet. If it uses Steamworks, well, good luck. You'll fail.
You are trying to equate downloading a game with requiring the Internet in order to "activate" or play a game. The two are not, and never will be equivalent, regardless of how much you believe it to be so.
Congrats, you've found an opinion piece with no hard data and a Google search which brings up a bunch of articles stating that removing DRM did not reduce piracy rates.
If Valve wind down, they'll issue the patch. If Valve or their creditors sell Steam then the service will still be operational.
Your blind faith is admirable, but naïve.
I will never give money to Valve, and I will enjoy their death if it happens. Steamworks, Origin and all the others are what is wrong with the AAA videogames industry. It deserves to die.
Really, what stake do you have in continued DRM-encrustation of toys? Why are you so in favour of it?
:I'm not being obtuse. When there's no effective difference in functionality for the end user between DRM and a non-DRM game, why should the user give a damn?
You are being deliberately obtuse. Annoyingly irritating or slow to understand.
The end user will give a damn when they try to install a game without the Internet being involved. Or those remote DRM servers.
Well it does affect you since you've deliberately barred yourself from playing a large swathe of games.
Games that don't interest me, in the same way that shit that requires I install the Ask toolbar doesn't interest me.
It has been repeatedly stated that if Valve were to go bust then Steam would be issued with a patch that no longer required it to phone home.
If Valve were to go bust, then Valve would no longer be in control of their own business. The creditors would.
I believe their promises as far as I'd believe the promises of any other corp: I don't.
I already have a large swathe of games new and old, that work very well without shitty online DRM thank you very much. The ones that want some kind of other copy protection like Starforce et al, get dealt with courtesy of Slysoft's Game Jackal. Yes, I am aware of the irony of buying a lifetime-updates subscription of a proprietary product in order to not have to worry about the shit that game publishers (again, not necessarily developers) pull. It should also show that I am perfectly willing to pay for software.
I just won't give money to bullshit merchants who demand that the toys I buy be locked up under the equivalent of a nuclear fucking PAL code that has no effect on unauthorised copying, and has the only real purpose of attempting to prevent me from selling on my own damned stuff. They are toys, not bombs.
You activate game on GoG by paying for it with a credit card and then download it. You activate game on Steam by paying for it with a credit card and then download it. You can back up your games to disc with both services and you can reinstall your games offline from those backups with both services (though it needs to be on the same account with Steam).
Don't be deliberately obtuse. GoG specifically does not use DRM. Steam is all about Steamworks. Steam would not exist without it.
How about, this is the real world and if you're going to get mad about games developers trying to protect their shit...
Hardly. Shitty DRM-encrusted toys are not worth getting worked up over. Like I said, there are far better toys out there. Toys that don't demand activation, online connectivity, whatever. The question is, when time after time you see surveys and reports showing how DRM makes absolutely no difference, and if anything increases the amount of piracy of a given game title, why publishers (note, not necessarily developers) continue to peddle their bullshit?
As for Steamworks being somehow "better" than Origin, no. If it requires a connection to play at all, then I'm just not interested. Sorry.
They're bigger than the film and music industries combined. I wouldn't hold your breath.
I just don't care. They can die, I am not concerned. Valve and EA could go into liquidation Tomorrow. It doesn't affect me, because I haven't locked myself into their shitty DRM.
I'd still dance a little jig on their grave though.
So... downloading an archive from a CDN somewhere is the same as activating it via Steamshite? No. No it is not the same. Did you not even read what I said about GoG?
"Usage of this game requires activation and acceptance of the Steam Subscriber Agreement (SSA)."
A quote from the back of the box on nearly every fucking game in the shop these days. I'm not confusing anything. Valve are rapidly becoming the Microsoft of PC games.
No thankyou. Like I said, Valve pioneered this shit. I won't forgive them, nor give them the benefit of my money. Same with EA, same with Ubisoft, same with anybody else who wants to infect my computer with crap or demands I make an account with Gabe's Great DRM Distribution Service, just to play with toys.
There are better toys out there.
I also have quite a few games bought on Steam that can be alternatively downloaded direct from the developer's website.
And KSP is one of them. From what I recall, the devs only added it to the Steaming Shite store as an option, because so many turkeys have been voting for Christmas and will for some insane reason, only get a game if it's locked into Steam. Whatever. Like I said, there are better toys.
As for the "extra expense" of making a "diffenet DRM", no. How about "no DRM"? Even less expensive. Yeah, sure I'm in the minority, but I really couldn't give two hoots. Like I said, there are far, far better toys, and none of them involve infecting my computer with shit.
So, the AAA videogames industry really can die. I'll dance a little jig on its grave.
Or whenever you install a game from a disk. Or whenever "offline mode" decides it isn't. The only reason they may, perhaps, possibly allow you to sell your own stuff second hand is because they might well end up being forced to in the EU.
Valve pioneered this online-DRM shit with Steam, and I won't forgive them for it. GOG.com is also a digital download service, and yet, no shitty Steamworks DRM.
Don't confuse downloading a game, with needing to be online to play or "activate" it. The two are not equivalent.
Clicking the little down arrow does not explain how what you said has the square root of fuck all to do with anything.
Try looking up the dictionary reference for "non-sequitur".
And lay off the Friday Night beer a bit. You're clearly tired and confused.
Re: How is this even a debate?
No more than a lorry driver gets a say in whether to turn their tacho off?
Depends on what data is being gathered of course. Sticking cameras all over the interior might be met with a barrage of chewing gum.
How is this even a debate?
Oh yes. The "IP" land grab. That's how.
If you own the car, you own the data it generates. Simples.
Whether you are liable for the data it generates depends on how much extra-warranty mucking about you've been doing to it. That however, is another matter entirely.
So long as it has an off switch, eh?
Considering Flappy Bird is a rip off of the "Heli2D" game I made for a first-year university project, and the project itself was a rip-off of similar games going back decades...
What da fook you on 'bout, Gapple?
Re: Mod hat on
irc.theregister.co.uk:6667? What a wonderful idea.
You not got a spare RasPi and an effernet socket to run it off?
Re: <scratches head>
So I guess you're language is not English, hinnit?
Protip: If you replace "you're" with "you are" and it makes no sense, you're probably doing it wrong.
The irony is delicious though.
"don't pay tax, get no votes."
I know of a few people for whom their response would be "....ok. Guess I'll save some money then."
And a million dollars = a million votes? That's not a recipe for disaster at all.
The poll tax
Which got renamed and called "Council Tax". And that, you do pay.
Re: Buyer beware
One other thing that occurs to me, even if the phone is bricked, it would still have many parts, in particular the screen, that would still be valuable on the black market.
Oh indeed. Probably the fate of many stolen phones is an advert on Fleabay two weeks later for cheap screens, or a casing, or sensor glass, or a battery, or whatever.
Re: Buyer beware
Highly unlikely that any lock+wipe mechanism will stop the phone being useful for emergency calls.
Well, unless the people proposing the laws are even more terminally brain-dead than people give them credit for.
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