* Posts by Michael Noonan

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Boffins riot as Hadron Collider upgrade is delayed

Michael Noonan
Alert

No risk oh really

From the article "Obviously concerns that the LHC might destroy the world, unleash some form of interdimensional portal invasion etc are baseless".

The most important duty of the teckkies is to keep the beam on track.

Risk in ten easy steps:-

1 Nuclear fusion of hydrogen gas by energy beam, proven.

2 Lots of energy in beam of aging under funded facility. presumably the point of the article.

3 Grumpy scientists searching job ads (or protesting) not keeping eye on the job.

4 Beam with several mile punching power.

5 Lake Geneva in range (or wet earth aquifer under Geneva).

6 Thousands of tonnes of nuclear fuel to fuse when reaction gets going.

7 Blast to shake the planet (like slapping a soggy pudding cos most of it is molten).

8 Oceans slop around for a while and London gets a soaking.

9 Combine captured carbon in lake mixes with nitrogen in air to form cyanide (many types non-toxic)

10 Glucose sugar shortages fail to offset long term cyanide health effects like paralysis.

No risk. Sure apples and almonds and cassava fruit carry small doses of cyanide and pose little risk. Industrial chemical prussian blue (dark blue) is a cyanide. Stock up on the sweets, floaties and don't drink the blue liquid.

LHC pulverises previous record: 2.36 TeV surprise collision!

Michael Noonan
Coffee/keyboard

#Simon Waddington#

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# Doesn't the average human being have a higher average "energy density" than the core of the sun. Or is that different from heat generation? - hell it's in Wackypedia so it must be true. The core of the sun has a pretty low, "specific energy" doesn't it?

Cripes, it may me just want to sit in an icy bath of water to think I could be responsible for spawning interdimensional beings.#

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Core density is the pressure and heat in the middle of the sun. It is fairly hot and in the center of the sun is under a bit more pressure than I am. Actually it is hot enough and 'dense enough' through all the sun stuff around it that it 'pushes' hydrogen together to make helium. The process is called nuclear fusion. That is the process that makes hydrogen bombs go 'bang'.

Second there is enough hydrogen in the water of the average human body to level a whole city if the nuclear fusion process ever got started in people. Crikey mate, if I had more energy density than the core of the sun an icy bath would be just the start of something much worse.

Michael Noonan
Alert

Area Effect

Just a little bit of info about cosmic ray collisions. A cosmic ray has been recorded 110 million times more energetic than the billions being collided at CERN. Such high energy collisions light up a patch of sky similar in size to the full moon for a trillionth of a second or two. The speed of the energy flash is why you do not see them but it still means an area effect miles across.

All points on earth can be hit by highly energetic cosmic ray collisions including the beam crossing point and its immediate surrounds which unlike the rest of the planet has an energy density 100,000 time hotter than the core of the sun. New science means new risks. That is not rocket science. What people like Luis Sancho and hopefully myself are doing is asking have enough questions regarding the risk assessment been asked.

Scientists are paid to think of the risks and so have the scientists at CERN thought about a collision event in the beam crossing millions of times more powerful than the little ones they are claiming are safe. People have the right to know if these safety questions have been asked. Or am I to assume people are so stupid that their safety means nothing to them and their children. In the absence or good information I am tending to lean toward people are stupid.

'Doctor Dark Energy': The Ultimate LHC eccentric?

Michael Noonan
Megaphone

Particle collisions

Single particle collisions up to 110 million times more powerful than CERN particles do occur naturally and can hit anywhere, typically in the atmosphere. What HAS changed is here on earth. Twin beams with energy intensity 100,000 times hotter than the core of the sun are being pushed around the 27km ring at CERN. So to answer the question from:-

Rattus Rattus

Ok, Herbys and Michael Noonan:

Posted Monday 7th December 2009 10:04 GMT

Repeat after me -

Collisions of much greater energy happen in the atmosphere every day.

-: and so on what you say is true.

The earth gets hit by cosmic rays every day and that is why dark matter detection experiments are placed so far underground to try and filter most of them out.

Mathematically a single particle collision by itself is not a danger. What is the new is the high energy intensity in the beam they will be made in. Second we are now at a new risk posed by nature. The hottest and most energy intense target for high energy cosmic rays is now right here on earth at CERN.

Michael Noonan
Stop

Gravity is not a particle

Hello Rattus Rattus,

Gravity has variation hence the Pioneer effect. Without hypothetical dark matter the rotation of the galaxy is also a gravitation anomaly. Satellites need relativity based corrections to account for time distortion due to being in a lesser gravitation than the clocks on earth and that is a variation in gravitation. Mordehai Milgrom a highly respected physicist founded MOND or Modified Newtonian Dynamics Theory to explain galaxy rotation a reference "http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070802_darkmatter.htm"

Professor Milgrom's proposal is that gravity is variable. If gravity is variable then it can't be a particle because a particle has exact defined properties and can not possibly be a variable. The Higgs boson is supposed to be the particle that explains undetected quantum gravity at the expense of the destruction of General Relativity.

I have written on forums of a unifying solution to physics which excludes gravity from the three QED quantum dynamic forces those being electromagnetic, weak force and the strong nuclear force. The three QED forces all have properties somewhat like electricity, gravity does not.

I wont bore you with what my proposal to the unified solution is sufficient to say that it is not accepted in any scientific journal not because it is wrong or possibly even right. None of what I say matters because as an avowed non scientist none of what I write matters.

And it wont matter all that greatly after the great destruction either.

Michael Noonan
Boffin

Freedom of choice

So and I am only a cleaner with a self taught understanding of physics. That does not mean I do not know the shape of an equation or variations in the explanation of dimensions. Dear moderator how come in this real world the electricity we take for granted is based on the mathematics of imaginary numbers. Doesn't sound like a problem in dimension does it but it is.

Go back to the March 2008 article in The Scientific American "The End of Cosmology". It states in time the evidence of the Big Bang will disappear. The 'known' age of the universe is 13.7 billion years, is it really. How can you be certain that there isn't something well beyond your vision and lost to human instrumentation already.

What if the Large Hadron Collider is a bomb which will start with cryogenic helium in an uncontrolled nuclear detonation. Then Lake Geneva will vaporize releasing the hydrogen from the water and adding millions of tonnes of even more nuclear combustible fuel to the explosion. Is it a coincidence that in the quadrant of the planet in range of the particle experiment is the vast bulk of the world's population.

What if Ivan is right and the Large Hadron Collider is a magnetic hole generator. Electricity and magnetism are forces that only came together fractions of a second after the Big Bang. The collider will have a continuous beam of concentrated energy unlike anything known in nature. So it might take a thousand seconds, about the time it takes to fall to the center of the earth or a thousand days which puts it into an interesting time frame.

What if the scientists are right and we all simply suffocate in forty or fifty years because we cut down all the trees and poisoned the oceans, weakened the coral and killed the oxygen renewal cycle. The doomsayers are going to be right ... now prove me wrong.

Michael Noonan
Boffin

Bursting the beam pipe (already happened)

Perhaps I should point out the explosion scenario was suggested by Wagner before the rupture of the cryogenic helium piping in 2008. That was before the site was targeted for shoe advertisements and pornography. Somehow the explosion scenario is already prophetic because last year when scientists lost control of the beam the first thing the beam did was to rupture the pipe and burn through the cryogenic helium containment.

From stellar observations a helium nuclear explosion is way hotter than hydrogen. The evidence is in the stars because one day our star the sun will go nova meaning it will swell and probably swallow the earth in the firestorm.

Wagner and Sancho did more than just consider monopoles, micro black holes and neutron mass forming strangelets. By reading the scenarios they offered for consideration at least one has potential given more energetic accidental starting conditions.

In a way that might be the best of all the disaster potentials as opposed to the suffocation of the next generation. It beats the heck out of being ripped, popped or stuffed into some strange new dimension.

Michael Noonan

So you think you are safe

Naturally the mathematics the scientists adds up. So you think you are safe. Well you're not. In mathematics the solution to a problem is to add an unknown variable often called 'x'. The scientists can balance their equations but nothing guarantees the assumptions they make are accurate.

Remember this reality has physical and holographic qualities and needs a multi-universe for gravity to leak into. Logically if physics was properly known then all the parts would unknowns like dark energy to explain thermal law breaking expansion. Galaxies would need invisible matter to stop them flying apart. Atoms wouldn't need an undetectable Higgs field to explain energy equivalence.

As I said if one uses enough unknown variable the mathematically any old piece of rubbish will add up. There is no safety in mathematics. Why do you think scientists are so unwilling to have their precious theories questioned? Because in the cold cruel light of logic they are a load of shit.

El Reg's LHC visit - Deleted Scenes

Michael Noonan
Pint

Rads to the tads in the nads of the lads of the nation

Beer alert ... don't drink the water.

I never got a response to the question of what do they do to all the damaged particles. Trillions of shock treated particles dumped twice a day next to one of the largest fresh water sources in Europe. The stuff in the tube still numbers enough to be part of the water content of every person on earth within the first days of running. Statistically speaking of course.

Does the nation with the greatest number of accelerators have fertility problems. Perhaps long ago someone said we should not paint ships with anti foul because it would poison the oceans. My guess is that they were called an idiot. Back then there was one dead sea and now there are fifteen of them, some as big as continents.

Large Hadron Timewaster

Michael Noonan
Happy

Why no TV

Commercial TV was available in the 1930's and the early particle accelerators were proof of concept machines with the first built in 1932. X-rays were known in 1875 from cathode ray tube emissions. Einsteins 1921 Nobel prize was for the photomultiplier tube which led to scanning equipment. Without particle accelerators there would be very little not discovered except that particle physics is a better than the unemployment benefit for a group of glorified academics.

A single spin off I have heard of is a cancer treatment which took 40 years to implement from proof of concept. To pop a proton under the skin to an inch to two takes much less power than a machine with beams designed to burn through 40 km of copper. There is no practical commercial process that can not be accomplished by other cheaper and safer alternatives. For those who need particle accelerators to tell them what vintage wine they have in a bottle (a use for particle accelerators) the alternate method is to read the label.

The electron gun was developed separately and the bulk of useful scientific advances have involved the exploration of electricity which was started back in 1663 with charge collection devices. To date particle physics has produced no useful particles that last for more than a tenth of a nanosecond. If teeth decayed at the rate particles do they would useless. Even to call something that exists for such a fraction real is a bit of a joke because particles have a waveform duality meaning the science boffins may have just been watching energy changing form for the last seventy five years.

Hadron boffins: Our meddling will not destroy universe

Michael Noonan
Pirate

Are we ready to share black holes responsibly?

I worry about the things that responsible scientists might NOT think about. A black hole is very highly charged electrically. There is so much science that is not yet understood. What if a terrorist group found a way to harness the huge electrical charge to attract the micro black hole into a city.

OK that sounds strange but there is still stuff on the net with things like a Tesla experiment caused Tunguska. A massively electrical point source could totally disrupt communications or harm people if controllable. How do we know this is not the weapon of the next Unibomber or Alkieda or rouge terrorist nation?

Scientists will by nature try and assess the safe and responsible use of technology but how does anyone prevent the harmful use by an organization that would not have had access if a stable micro black hole was not created in the first place.

That is an extreme example and assumes that Hawking radiation fails to allow the black hole to dissolve. The density difference would mean that any such object would treat any substance as little more that a thin gas, even rock. Sure scientists are not planning to harm society but not everyone in this world has such high altruistic standards.

Are we really ready for this ... beyond the science what do we know and fear of ourselves.

CERN: LHC to fire first proton-smash ray next month

Michael Noonan
Paris Hilton

Rewriting Reality

For the Large Hadron Collider to work it is required to assume that time has no dimension. Reality is a series of sequential unrelated reference frames. Otherwise CERN is a time machine more than capable of rewriting reality.

Now to look at the proton just in points of simultaneity lets assume all the beam paths away from the directing, kicking and focus magnets are not subject to anything other than relative difference in velocity. It is your Einstein classic train in the tunnel relativity conundrum in micro scale.

Take the bulk of the beam path not subject to stress and divide it into paper thin sections. From the point of view of the along side the accelerator observer the option is to capture the proton between the paper thin section between the front of the sheet and the back of the sheet. Once the proton is in the page you can close the book and reopen before the proton leaves the page. Just as in the larger example of the train in the tunnel the gates of the tunnel so for our proton the closed book happens at different points of simultaneity.

So it can't be proven that the proton is different over the three quarter hour mark before impact or in the ten hour user time before dumping the entire beam into a carbon sink. But one can use the already accepted rules for matter for relativistic behavior at each point along the experiment and state that simultaneity does not exist for the protons in use. It is a leap of logic to therefore extend the concept to the entire windup and wind-down or ten hours and dump-stage.

So it is not the same proton at any point in reference frames of time equals zero or the whole machine is a time machine if time has any relevance to reality and symmetry breaking indicates that something is stretched beyond breaking point and now all that remains is to see is if there is a safety point.

Simply according to the math time has no significance and is not included otherwise the LHC is a very large and powerful time machine. Time is not included in the calculations because it means the protons injected into the machine are not the same ones getting smashed up during the hours in the machine. I don't know about the end of the universe but this machine has the capacity to rewrite to a trillionth of a second after the big bang some small part of our reality.

Just off topic momentarily it was pretty crude how the Olympics were used as a look away feel good to see the dogs of the old cold war given a run. I am so glad science didn't use global celebration as a foil for dumping the bad news. Just don't tell the kids there are no more shopping days until Christmas ... ever.