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Dave, it probably came into awareness in English first with the “chic” pronunciation (e.g.The Sheik of Araby). The “shake” pronunciation is closer to the Arabic pronunciation, and was preferred in Zappa’s case for his Sheik Yerbouti pun.
influenced by dialect?
Efros, I’ve wondered about that dialectal aspect as well. One simple tongue twister that trips up most people here is saying “toy boat” ten times in succession, as rapidly as possible. Over here, it almost invariably morphs into “toy boyt” before the end, and I’ve wondered whether that would tend to happen with native speakers of other English dialects.
Stateside nasal payment plans
cambsukguy, the prices here depend upon where one is in the States. Most of the US has a lower population density than most of western Europe; in my case, my county’s population density is akin to that of Shetland. My monthly cost for two landlines, 3½ Mb/s downstream DSL on one of those landlines, no mobile phones, and no cable TV is roughly four times what you pay for your service, so I suppose that I’m on a dual-nostril plan.
What is the most basic article of faith?
dssf, it’s cogito, ergo sum.
“This is complete bollocks.”
“This whole discussion is bullshit.”
btrower, if this be your true view on the matter, then why contribute to the steaming entirety?
legally mandated exceptions to patient confidentiality
Anonymous Coward of 16:18 GMT, I am aware of such exceptions in instances such as actual abuse of children or dependent adults, or (for physicians only) of injuries due to gunshots, ice picks, &c., but I was not aware of such an exception because a patient “might be interested in children”, nor that there would be a requirement for the medical person to lie about having to report such information. Do you know the name of the law that requires these actions?
“the sort of people who have to wear googles when using cultery”
boltar, in this phrase, I must admit that I prefer your spellings to the standard ones.
Archimedes in the USA
Anonymous Coward of 13:04 GMT, at the time I looked into purchasing an Archimedes for myself when they were first offered here in the States. For me, it was its price that caused me to not buy one. (I probably still have the brochure and price list up in my attic somewhere, but it would take an archæological expedition to uncover them.)
getting this straight
Will, some background can be found at this blog entry from June at Slate: a ten-year sentence is not a given for Lostutter.
Why were there two-year sentences for the rapes? Actually, one of them received a one-year sentence. The rapists and the victim were all 16 at the time of the rapes, thus all minors in Ohio. The rapes in this case were “digital penetration”, involving the rapists’ fingers rather than their genitalia. Their acts met the statutory definition of rape in Ohio because the victim, as a minor, could not grant consent to those acts in Ohio, even if she had been sober, had been asked, and had assented. The rapists were tried in juvenile court and found delinquent (analogous to guilty in Ohio juvenile court), and are serving their sentences in juvenile detention. Their sentences are minima; there is the possibility that both could remain incarcerated until they turn 21, and a future hearing will determine whether or not their names will be added to the sex offender registry once they turn 21 . Since the one who received the two-year sentence was also convicted of disseminating child pornography (because of posting pictures of the 16-year-old naked victim online), due to that concurrent sentence he could remain behind bars until age 24.
from North Sumatra to Western Australia
Gray Ham, it looks like it would be quite a long voyage from North Sumatra province to Western Australia state. From Kupang on Timor, which is considerably closer to Western Australia than is North Sumatra, it looks like about 480 km/300 mi to Cape Bougainville.
old enough …
… to have taken the overland route to Pakistan through Argentina? Getriebe, did that overland route cross Beringia?
Re: “The 200 year old booze, which was the oldest ever found”
Graham, listen, don’t mention Cousteau. I mentioned him once, but I think I got away with it all right.
Re: Being right doesn’t make the OP wrong
I. Aproveofitspendingonspecificprojects, given the chronological order, perhaps you meant that Churchill was Lincolnian in the list of actions above? (Unless by Churchillian and cannon fodder, you were referring to Marlborough at Malplaquet?)
Regarding slaves on the eve of the US Civil War, the price of a youthful slave in good health was comparable to that of a small house at the time, roughly five times the annual salary of an average middle-class worker. According to the 1860 US census, 26% of households in what would become the CSA had at least one slave. Were slaves worth that much to the free people of the CSA? We only have the historical record to inform us on their thoughts on the matter.
Bitcoin and gold
Evil Auditor, oddly enough I heard two stories on the radio today. The first story was that part of the reason for the Senate’s current hearing on Bitcoin is that a PAC for one of the major parties is interested in receiving Bitcoin as campaign contributions, and thus part of the familiarization process for members of this chamber is comparing and contrasting Bitcoin’s anonymity with current legal requirements for identifying contributors to candidate-specific campaign funds.
The second story (mentioned in passing) was that the Indian government has increased their import duty on gold bullion three times this year, from 4% to its current 10%. In India, at least, there is a gatekeeper who must be satisfied before imported gold can be freely traded.
I admire your faith in the equivalence of ownership of gold-backed ETFs to ownership of physical gold — but perhaps I’m too skeptical for my own good on certain topics.
Mahatma Coat, to build upon Chris’ point, I’ll quote from a book on Dutch grammar regarding diminutives:
Diminutives often indicate smallness, but they may also express a variety of attitudes toward an object or person: familiarity, affection, tenderness, irony, or even disdain. Often they lend an untranslatable connotation to a word, something that only the native speaker can perceive.
In my view, this explains the Australian usage better than abbreviations would.
ShelLuser, SeaMonkey does receive frequent updates; it’s just that its version numbering is not as “inflated” as that of Firefox. (SeaMonkey has been on “version 2” since 2010 or so. Its current version at this writing is 2.22.1; 2.21 was released in mid-September, 2.20 in early August, &c.)
Re: Lose points for not going through lower courts.
John, for this case, going through the lower courts was not possible; please see my reply to Tom 13 above.
Regarding which cases the Supreme Court should hear, these remarks by Chief Justice Rehnquist in 2001 could provide some insight on why they decline to hear most cases.
Tom, I agree that the Supreme Court certainly had the authority to make a decision on this case had they chosen to, in contradiction to Shaun’s claim in his article.
The reason why EPIC petitioned to have the Supreme Court grant a writ of mandamus was for two reasons: (1) the lower courts have no jurisdiction over the FISC, and thus would not be able to grant relief for the FISC’s actions; and (2) EPIC was not a recipient of a FISC order, and so couldn’t challenge the order within the FISC. That left only the Supreme Court as a possible source of relief. Certiorari is intended to instruct a lower court to apply judicial review; mandamus is intended for judicial remedy, to have the Supreme Court itself review a federal agency (in this case, the FISC) for abuse of discretion.
I have to disagree with the notion that EPIC’s petition was merely a “PR ploy”; given the circumstances surrounding the FISC’s Verizon order and the legal limitations in seeking relief from it, I saw this as an entirely bona fide effort from EPIC. (EPIC is a Verizon customer.)
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For what it’s worth, Stanley has been arrested down here, in case Alberta Justice decides to extradite after all.
cold southern comfort
Trevor, certainly one person with a record like Michael Sean Stanley’s is more than enough for anywhere. Why is it that Canada cannot deport between one and 9,410* of these people in Canada of US origin who are criminals? From your linked article, apparently Stanley self-deported to Seattle, and Alberta Justice has stated that they will prosecute Stanley should he return to Canada. Do you think that Alberta Justice made the right decision in not pursuing extradition of Stanley back to Alberta? Or do you agree with the official Opposition, that Stanley should be extradited?
* — In 2012, I knew three of these 9,414 people, and none of these three was a criminal. The two who are still among the living brazenly continue with their non-criminal lifestyles.
Trevor, in 2012 there were 9,414 permanent residents of Canada from the US. Are you stating that all of these 9,414 people are criminals? Or are you stating that all criminals in Canada are called “Americans”? Or are you using the word Americans in its broadest “from somewhere in the Western Hemisphere” sense?
But I can’t stop you using those equations […]
Tim, if excludability is Job One, then assassination is typically quite effective for the prevention of equation use. However, that comes with its own set of externalities.
Re: Slightly strange complaint
ribosome, Tim’s figures were on US public healthcare expenditure, not US total healthcare expenditure. The system here in the States is not fully private; for example, most people 65 and older are on public Medicare.
Re: The lack of upgrade option is slightly ironic
Michael, I’ll take your word for it on the ironic aspect. ;*)
I’ve just started on the long process of retiring my 13-year old ThinkPad X20 (bought new), having recently purchased a 2010 MacBook Pro (and a SSD, and a MBP-suitable set of screwdrivers) as its replacement. The X20’s only upgrades over the years were maximizing its RAM (from 128 MiB to 320 MiB), getting a larger hard drive (from 20 GB to 100 GB), and buying a PCMCIA card to provide two USB 2.0 ports (its built-in USB ports are 1.1). I wouldn’t have considered replacing the X20 with a laptop with non-upgradable memory and storage.
Van Diemen’s Land writ large
Mahatma Coat, the Australian usage seems more focused on making diminutives rather than abbreviating, so the better comparison could be to the -je et al. in Dutch.
Anonymous Coward of 11:47 GMT, in the US, that situation would only be of legal concern to that main investor if his advice were based on non-public information. If his advice were based solely on information available to the general public, then no legal issues would be involved. I don’t know if the situation would be the same for a UK-based main investor.
Whom does the public go to for redress?
Anonymous Coward of 02:20 GMT (and Brian), the proper body from whom to seek redress in this case is Congress — to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and/or §215 of the USA PATRIOT Act, for reining in the excesses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court orders. However, given the current political climate and the apparent satisfaction of the executive branch with the status quo, it is highly unlikely that there would be enough votes in favor of an amending act to override a presidential veto. Thus, the likeliest possibility for redress would likely come through the Supreme Court granting a future petition for a writ of mandamus from a similar case yet to find its way before the justices — that is, don’t hold your breath waiting for another such case to appear.
one of many right times
When I indulge in a pot of coffee at home, it’s almost always in the late afternoon. At a diner, I might have a mugful or two with either lunch or supper. I rarely consume caffeine before the crack of noon.
25! more vulnerabilities
Anonymous Coward of 12:45 GMT, 25! more vulnerabilities = 15,511,210,043,330,985,984,000,000 more of them. One can only stand back in undisguised flabbergastion at the activity of the Oompa-Loompas.
Re: notable mathematicians of Rome/Byzantium
Ken, I don’t know about Diophantus and Nichomachus, but Claudius Ptolemy and Boëthius were Roman citizens, having the same citizenship rights as that of any Roman citizen who was born behind the Servian Wall.
Did Ramanujan have the same citizenship rights as someone who was born within earshot of Bow Bells? If not, then it would not be a valid comparison.
notable mathematicians of Rome/Byzantium
Ken, Claudius Ptolemy was a Roman citizen. Diophantus was another mathematician in Roman Alexandria. Nichomachus was from Roman Syria, but his Art of Arithmetic is lost to us. Boëthius, unlike those previously mentioned, spoke Latin rather than Greek, but he is better remembered for his philosophical works than for his mathematical works.
ribosome, sarcophagus originally referred to a type of stone (probably limestone) which was believed to consume flesh; thus, it was thought to be a good choice of material for coffins. Coïncidentally, the word coffin also comes from Ancient Greek (“basket”); however, casket comes from cassette.
Let your money do the talking.
Lottie, what could actually be done is to not purchase any new device from any firm which does not meet your personal standard of ethics. If you cannot determine where a given firm stands relative to your standard, then you’ll have to make a decision on whether to treat that firm as “innocent unless proven guilty” or “guilty until proven innocent”.
Roger, the statutory common assault of England and Wales is only applicable when the victim “apprehends immediate unlawful violence” (in context, violence here means touching). As far as I can tell*, assault in Massachusetts is still a common law crime, and so would be generally defined as “attempted battery”. If the Peeping Tom in question did not touch his “subject”, and had no intention of doing so, then it would not be a Massachusetts assault, since it would not have been an attempted battery. However, there are many varieties of statutory assault in Massachusetts; perhaps being charged with one of those might have been more suitable in this case.
* — I am not a lawyer.
the official position on neckbeards
tony2heads, the official position on neckbeards is illustrated here.
stockpiled tax breaks
Anonymous Coward of 15:08 GMT, average taxpayers in the States have at least one tax break which can be “stockpiled”: capital losses. Over here, a maximum of $3,000 per annum can be claimed as a capital loss on an individual tax return, so any capital losses above that amount get rolled over into subsequent years. Perhaps Inland Revenue offers a similar scheme?
Buzzword, you could install KeyRemap4MacBook to let the Fn key make the 789/UIO/JKL/M keys act as a numeric keypad under OS X.
Anonymous Coward of 16:38 GMT, both singular they and epicene he have been used in English to refer to someone of indeterminate sex for at least five centuries. Like you, I prefer epicene he, but singular they is a perfectly acceptable alternative. Do you really stop reading something purely on the basis of finding the writer’s choice of pronoun “ugly”?
the art of gerrymandering
DougS, even after the most recent Congressional redistricting, which took effect with last year’s elections, Michigan’s 8th congressional district is nearly 50/50; that’s why I suggested the possibility of Rogers’ opponents making his quote widely known within his district.
obnoxiousGit, Representative Mike Rogers has been elected to consecutive two-year terms of office since 2000 by the voters of Michigan’s 8th congressional district, which is centered on Lansing, Michigan’s capital. He is ex-FBI. I don’t know how long this view of his has been known to his voting constituency, but his opponents now have a year until the next election to make sure that the voters there are aware of it.
Anonymous Coward, I’d feel more sorry for those who believe it. They who spout it on behalf of their employers at least receive remuneration for their actions.
Regarding Whitelegg’s observation, please don’t take the views of Coviello, Schmidt, McNealy, et al. as being representative of all 310+ million of us.
Simon, what piqued my curiosity about the photo of the PCs in the learning centre was the sign above them: “MEN’S SIDE”. In reading about the Warlpiri language, I found a cultural explanation for the sign. Are there other cultural conditions which those of us nowhere near Willowra should keep in mind as we try to think of things that might meet the needs of the Warlpiri people?
Re: “notorious, proprietary pentalobe screws”
Charles, at least one non-Retina MacBook Pro model uses both pentalobe and tri-wing screws — the latter for securing the “non-user-replaceable” battery.
In the States, there is still at least one domestic manufacturer of drivers for unusual screws: Moody Tools. (I am a satisfied purchaser of their “9 Piece Reversible Electronic ESD Repair Kit” [which is useful for pre-Retina Apple products]; I have no ownership interest in their corporate parent.) Perhaps similar driver manufacturers also exist in other industrialized nations?
as some Romans said
Scorchio!!, the “Si vis pacem” quote is a paraphrase of what one particular Roman wrote. The British did not forget that between the wars; the generation of men who in their youth saw hundreds of thousands being slaughtered in No Man’s Land during the Great War were (in their middle age) trying to figure out how to avoid subjecting their sons to the same horrific experience. I dont think that it’s entirely fair to judge their choice of actions on the basis of our 20-20 hindsight.
Regarding Stalin, he was called “Uncle Joe” not due to any sort of international proletarian affection, but in tongue-in-cheek honor of Joseph “Uncle Joe” Cannon, the Speaker of the US House of Representatives in the first decade of the 20th century, after whom Stalin allegedly modeled his own rule.
effectiveness of provocation
Willard, making your point in a provocative way may well be useful in creating a debate, but the debate will almost certainly be distracted, if not completely detoured, by the particular provocation itself. (Compare Femen: they make their point in a provocative way, but how much debate is focused on their point rather than on their provocation?) If you honestly desire to create a debate that will last beyond the shelf life of a newspaper issue, please stick to the boring weirdo method of focusing on relevant subjects, so that discussions will be concentrated on what matters, rather than on what doesn’t.
Boring Weirdo several timezones west of Tunbridge Wells.
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