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Re: to undetectably (sic) alter or sniff your traffic
Phil, a non- prefix would certainly be possible, thanks to the flexibility of English, but does not fully address the “correctness” issue which you’d stated came from root inconsistency, since biodegradable is itself a mix of Greek and Latin roots.
English has a long tradition of using an un- prefix with words which don’t have English roots, e.g. unsavoury from the 13th century. My original point was that there was no reason to mark undetectably with “sic”, since that word exists and was used comprehensibly.
Since the OED is descriptive rather than prescriptive, collecting linguistic turds is part of its remit.
Re: to undetectably (sic) alter or sniff your traffic
Phil, English has many, many words with mixed roots. How should a word like unbiodegradable be made “correct”, with its mixture of Old English, Greek, and Latin roots? “unlifeshendable”? “abiodiasporable”? “invitadegradable”?
If you would really like to get to the historical truth of the matter, read the wall of text which is the entry for un- in the OED.
to undetectably (sic) alter or sniff your traffic
Darren, what’s so sic about “undetectably”? Both “undetectable” and “indetectable” are in the OED; “undetectably” is also present as an adverbial form of its adjective, unlike “indetectably”.
Gene, as a citizen with the right to vote, you get a choice every two years with your federal Representative. Your ballot might offer you more than two pre-printed choices, and you could write in a candidate of your choice if the ones on offer are not to your liking.
Which Canadian accent do you practice?
Re: Unemployed and going on holiday overseas?
Bucky 2, another possibility is “between contracts”.
Offer them a stage and they get stage-fright?
… wrote an Anonymous Coward.
Re: Robertson Rules!
Barry, the reason why Phillips and slotted screws are so popular in the US is ultimately due to Robertson’s refusal to license his patented design to foreign manufacturers. (Phillips was willing to license his design to anyone, and eventually sold his patents to Ford. Slotted screws were unencumbered by IP issues.)
The US accepted metric measurement in 1866.
quantum physics has been as edin love with cats as Facebook
Richard, what does “edin” mean?
a game of skill to pick attendees
Given the recent popularity of words for hardware in Arapaho, I hope that a limerick in one of the Pama–Nyungan languages would earn extra points for antipodean wordsmiths. Good luck to all of the entrants!
Re: Upgrades to software, other platforms.
Herby, another example would be TenFourFox, a version of Firefox made for G4 and G5 Macs running Tiger and Leopard, still supported years after Mozilla dropped their support for them. It takes advantage of the PowerPC AltiVec instruction set, which I think no other PPC Mac OS X browser ever did.
ancient tech is rubbish, do yourself a favour and lose the many year old stuff
Longrod_von_Hugendong, do you practice what you preach by eschewing all ancient tech, like inclined planes, levers, pulleys, screws, wedges, and wheels & axles?
A Scottish government can no more grab the spectrum back than it can lay claim to the land on which my house sits.is there no power of compulsory purchase / eminent domain under Scots law?
The competition mostly focused on restaurants and hospitals
The focus of the competition should not be presumed to be based upon cause and effect.
Captain DaFt, the reconstructed classical Latin pronunciation would be [tɐ.bɛrˈnɐm.kwɛ] (or approximately “tuh-bear-NUM-kweh” in English phonetics, where “tuh” sounds like tub without the letter B, “bear” is rhotic (with an audible R — as pronounced in North America), and “kweh” sounds like quell without the letters L). I think that it would have the same pronunciation in ecclesiastical Latin, in case you feel a hymn coming on.
This triumph demands some blatant thievery from a Horatian ode:
Nunc est bibendum, nunc pede libero
pulsanda tellus; nunc Saliaribus
ornare pulvinar deorum
tempus erat dapibus, sodales.
Re: Makes IE more attractive every day
AMBxx, have you looked into the Firefox ESR stream? It resynchronizes with the main stream every seventh version (10, 17, 24, 31, …), and only gets security updates in between.
HP has launched consumer “tabloans”
Should that have been “tablones”? Or does “tabloans” rhyme with “Samoans”?
Uncle Slacky, my translation came only from offline sources, viz my brain and my dictionary. There aren’t many Latin words for hovering, so similarities in different translations of this phrase are inevitable.
Kubla Cant, the division is not “full of” + “something”, but “full” + “of something”; that is, adjective + genitive. Plenus/plenum/plena is perfectly acceptable in this way: Cicero used plenum sceleris (“full of wickedness”), and Horace used plenum laetitiae (“full of happiness”).
Oddly enough, my Latin grammar book notes two exceptions from Early through “Golden Age” Latin: for adjectives denoting either fullness or deficiency only, adjective + ablative was equally acceptable. Thus, plena anguillis could also have been used.
the App Store paid out $20bn in revenues to app developers
In other words, the App Store has garnered $8.5bn in revenues for Apple.
Re: Bundy bear?
Re: I think…
On out of state purchases, the consumer is supposed to pay a “use” tax and pay it at the end of the year. Would you think it is accurate to say that 100% of this revenue is reported by each consumer and remitted in full to the IRS each year?no, it would not be accurate to say that. Anyone who pays use tax knows that it is remitted to his state’s taxation department rather than to the IRS.
one more time, with gusto
Along with VAT being included in UK prices vs. sales tax excluded from US prices, another reason for the UK vs. US price difference is the coverage provided by the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland, and by the Sale of Goods Act 1982 (as amended) in Scotland. The warranty which the seller provides in the UK has to be paid for somehow, and that somehow is through a higher retail price. Note that there is no mandatory seller’s warranty in the US; but if a seller decides to offer a warranty, then legislation (e.g. the Magnuson-Moss Act) governs it.
Re: Let’s hope…
Richard 23, how about Flat Tyre by the Del Vikings?
Or No Engine by Army of Freshmen?
Michael, how does -que imply equality? Consider the first sentence of Tacitus’ Germania:
Germania omnis a Gallis Raetisque et Pannoniis Rheno et Danuvio fluminibus, a Sarmatis Dacisque mutuo metu aut montibus separatur: cetera Oceanus ambit, latos sinus et insularum inmensa spatia complectens, nuper cognitis quibusdam gentibus ac regibus, quos bellum aperuit.In this sentence, Gaul is not being equated to Rhaetia, and Sarmatia is not being equated to Dacia.
The Filioque controversy had more to do with ἐκπορευόμενον having been translated into Latin as procedit, and the differences in their respective connotations when “and the Son” was appended in Latin.
Re: to the pub
EddieD, as a follow-up to my previous reply, I did a spot check of one of Cicero’s books. There, he much preferred ex over e for nouns beginning with consonants — I had thought that that was a feature more characteristic of mediæval Latin — and consistently used ab with nouns beginning with an H. (There was one inconsistency: a natura was used thrice, and ab natura was used once.) So, I’ll correct myself by stating that ex taberna should be fine in a motto.
the ablative of WD-40
Vincent, may you receive the laurel for your efforts in cleaning this corner of our Augean stables! (If you have a masochistic streak, the rest of the entries start here.) I’ll add a bit to what you’ve observed above:
- Da has several possible meanings; my guess is that “give birth” was (figuratively) intended.
- Pila has several meanings; my guess is that pilae was intended, as a literal translation from English for colei.
- For the ablative of WD-40, perhaps mixtione WD-40; to also “translate” WD-40, one could use XL WD (as Mud5hark originally offered), or XL VVD (since Latin didn’t have a letter W), or XL IA (roughly translating “water displacement” as immutatio aquae). Fortunately, XL is indeclinable.
Re: Word order ?
JimmyPage, because of the inflections, Latin’s word order is far more flexible that that of English, but it’s still quite possible to create Yoda-Latin.
Re: to the pub
EddieD, ex (or ab) would only be used with a noun beginning with a vowel; in this example, e taberna (“out of the pub”) or a taberna (“from the pub”) would be preferred.
Ah, glory days
IBM released its first boring personal computer in 1981, a couple of years before that first beautifully conceived Macintosh was thrown at it.
Confounded whippersnapper journalists. Decede ab agro meo!
I’m sexting my illicit lover with suggestions regarding the Crimea question.
See Sevastopolʹ with Balaklava.
Re: some suggestions
Faceless Man, at least it got two of the words correctly conjugated/declined that time. My own translation of that would be Navis volitans mea plena anguillarum est, but I wouldn’t propose that as a motto — LOHAN deserves better.
Lester, regarding the first raw effort at the patch, in my view there isn’t enough contrast between the selected shades of red and blue; either a darker shade of blue, or thin white dividing lines at the red/blue borders, would help. I don’t know if most of the patch’s stars were randomly placed or not, but in honour of the SPB I’d suggest using the pattern of the Teapot asterism in Sagittarius, perhaps with τ Sagittarii as the star located between between the r of Navigator and the L of Low.
On the topic of a stirring motto, I’ll offer two possibilities:
- Profectus per evectionem
- Cursus Liber citat
Both were kept brief, in case the motto would be going on the patch. The first is a straightforward, no-nonsense message; the second has multiple possible meanings, some cheekier than others, depending upon which definitions of the verb and object are chosen. English translations are intentionally left as exercises for the reader, particularly since a certain online service offers translations (in these cases) with eelful-hovercraft levels of accuracy.
[Obama] promptly passed the buck and said it was up to Congress to get it done.
Iain, after reading 17 USC §1201 (a) (1), I’d concur with Obama’s view on this — short of waiting until January 2017 to see if Billington (or his successor) changes his mind again, the ball is in the Congressional court.
Who knows who’s going to win this one?
Steven, I know who’ll win this one — the attorneys.
the Greek alternative
Does Ford have a Model Ε? (That standalone vowel is a capital ε, pronounced epsilon.)
the important stuff
Martin, here in the States, there are no referendums at the federal level, and only about half of the states have them at the state level.
If your shires were states, they’d probably be led along by the national purse strings just as much as the states are here. There might be a silver bullet somewhere (the Swiss constitution might be a good place to start your search), but it won’t be found here.
Re: But the demanding public need to know…
For €1, apparently.
Re: Isn’t it great…
Eddy, given its roots, the plural for Linux should use the Finnish “instructive” declension — Linuxin — with tongue optionally implanted in cheek.
Re: Version 13?
Irongut, my money would be on Anonymous Coward being up-to-date on Linux with Flash Player 22.214.171.1244. Your comment certainly announced a thing or two about yourself.
the joys of log log
ian 22, ain’t that the truth! (Mine is an early 1950s K&E log log duplex decitrig.)
well-travelled Ethiopian stone tools
Steven, thanks for the link. No, I’m not a xkcd reader; I guess that I’m still a creature of the 20th century in preferring comics on paper.
after travelling more than 17 light hours through the radiation-wracked nastiness of space
Steven, I figure that 19,093,090,914 km is a bit shy of 20⅓ Earth orbits through the radiation-wracked nastiness of the heliosphere, so your Casio FX calcluator (as well as a number of old, working items at Deficient House) has travelled more than Voyager 1.
Re: “our own country”…?
strum, your Bill of Rights is an act of Parliament which will remain in force unless it be amended or repealed. Similarly, no part of our Bill of Rights is immune from amendment or repeal, although it would not be as readily accomplished here as could be done there.
Regarding the alleged lack of inalienable rights, how can I lawfully sell my right to vote in US elections to someone who does not have that right?
Re: “our own country”…?
Anonymous Coward, you can determine which one by scrutinizing my previous comment for mention of a year. By reading the text of the appropriate Claim of Right, you’ll discover “nonsense” such as
- That the Imposeing of extraordinary fynes The exacting of exorbitant Baile and the disposeing of fynes and forefaultors befor sentence are Contrary to law;
- That the Imprisoning persones without expressing the reason therof and delaying to put them to tryall is contrary to law;
- That the putting of Garisones on privat mens houses in tyme of peace without their Consent or the authority of Parliament is Contrary to law.
Re: “our own country”…?
Blitheringeejit, as a Brit, you have your own Bill of Rights (or Claim of Right, if Scottish) from 1689, from which inspiration for our own was derived a century later. Citizenship in the UK has existed since 1949; not many people are still a British subject without also being a British citizen. Neither of us will discover whether democracy has any power to mitigate our respective realities until we each collectively decide to elect a legislature with a majority of representatives who are neither associated with our major political parties nor connected to our major wielders of influence. Should it turn out that a legislature so populated has no such power, then perhaps the bitter remedy prescribed in the preamble of our Declaration of Independence — to alter or abolish a form of government which is destructive of certain unalienable rights — might be a necessary step to achieve that mitigation.
all you need is a reasonably good 17 meter ham …
<span class="homer">Mmmmm, 17 meter ham …</span>
“HDMI, thy end is near”
By the sacré culot of the Marquis de Favras! — it’s “HDMI, thine end is near”.
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