* Posts by h4rm0ny

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Wikipedia’s biggest scandal: Industrial-scale blackmail

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Re: It's OK to say wanker, it was on El Reg

For Pity's sake, it's bad enough when people self-censor stronger words, given all it does is send a message that the author thinks the word is offensive even if the reader would not. But censoring "wanker"? This is a British tech site. I think we'll survive the word.

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>>"I avoid them as much as I can, but I accidentally clicked on a link one or two months ago. Huge banner: GIVE US MONEY!"

I actually used to give them a fair bit of money (in non-millionaire private individual terms, anyway). I stopped after that debacle with the "monkey selfie". If you want an essay in smugness, read their own page on the criticism. This was when they declared that the photo couldn't be copyrighted because the monkey had pressed the button.

Because it is just chance that the professional nature photographer had travelled half-way around the world specifically to photograph these monkeys, spent days carefully approaching the troupe and getting accepted by them (not easy, I would guess), set up the equipment deliberately for this purpose, transferred the resulting images to their computer, did the work of going through them all to select suitable ones, did the appropriate cropping to frame it artistically, performed who knows how much post work on the thing (because I guarantee that photo didn't look like that in its raw state) and did all this as part of their professional job. No, a monkey was involved so Wikimedia declare the photo is free for them now. I bet the same people are quick to condemn any lawyer in court who tried to pull some technicality trick, but it's okay for them to do it.

That sort of small-minded, self-righteousness I do not wish to fund. Lost a LOT of respect for them after that.

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Websites aimed at kids are slurping too much info, finds report

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Three solid reasons why this is bad.

Provided because there are always some who like to feel smart by contesting popular opinion.

1) Building cradle to grave information profiles gives a lot of power to those who have it. The inability to truly leave behind elements in your past is an unprecedented liability. If you respond to this with either 'you have nothing to hide' variants or that you shouldn't care what others think, then you're seriously underestimating society's willingness to not judge other people or the harm it can do. I invite critics of this one to look through the best selling magazines, TV shows and websites to show just how much most of human society loves to judge and the degree to which society's opinion of you can affect your life whether you agree with it or not. It's all very well to say you're not ashamed of something, doesn't stop and employer or partner or government or neighbourhood acting on it.

2) Children do not have the defences accumulated that adults do. When you respond that intensive profiling doesn't matter because 'you ignore ads' or 'you research your own facts' or whatever, these are defences that children do not have. To be honest, most adults don't have these defences to the extent they think they do.

3) It normalizes surveillance and intensive tracking of individuals by those with power. Society is a delicate balance of power between the government and the individual. We see daily what happens when the government no longer fears the people. Profiling and tracking individuals gives very real power to those with the information. We are at risk of raising a generation that has never not known this and accepts that free handing over of power as normal.

"Think of the children" is a cliché. But that doesn't make children not worth protecting.

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Microsoft backports data slurp to Windows 7 and 8 via patches

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Re: Linux for me now

I can, if I wish, not use SELinux, unlike with Windows 10 where it will continue to keystroke monitor even if I have that turned off or potentially even send memory dumps to Microsoft. Anyway, the "NSA effect" of SELinux was more political than anything. It stymied some development of better security approaches but with the latest point release we seem to be breaking away from that,

Anyway, I'm not someone discovering GNU/Linux as a result of this, I'm someone going back to it. I've out off Windows 10 because of privacy concerns and out of distaste at the way they have tried to force me into it with deeply irritating and very hard to remove ads inserted without my permission into my Windows 8 Pro install. If they backport things I'm not happy with into Windows 8, changing what I regard as the terms of the arrangement I'll go back to Gentoo, or try Mint that everyone's talking about. I still have all the skills, they're just dusty. I transitioned from GNU/Linux at somepoint around Windows 7 when it turned out to be actually good and I've defended MS on these forums many times against their less rational critics. But if MS are now telling me that my money isn't good enough for them and they demand my data too, then they lose my support.

And this isn't some irrational jump - the number of things I have to do to preserve my personal and professional privacy from them is getting longer and longer. I don't have time for that and if MS's business interests are now no longer "Please me to get my money" but rather "Find ways to get her data", then I don't trust it to be a fight I can win. They can just keep making it harder and harder to stop them until one slip and there it all goes. What it comes down to is that MS are telling me their aims no longer coincide with my own.

And as someone who prefers to pay for things with money, I'm starting to get quite angry about that.

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AMD rattles Nvidia's cage with hardware-based GPU virtualization

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Re: Mainframe, we've missed you!

>>"Funny my Core i7 built in 2010 is still going strong, however now I want to take advantage of USB 3and PCIe 3 and the Skylake chips finally look to be a decent leap ahead for me to upgrade."

It's a modest upgrade only in terms of power. IPC increases have been on the order of around 4-6% with each generation change which is a far cry from the old days. It's really a pittance. Where improvements have been pretty big is in terms of power-efficiency. That has been Intel's focus (insofar as they actually care now that they've all but buried AMD at the medium to high-end). Which is what I've been saying - their focus has switched to mobile devices. Offload the heavy computing and focus on something most people prefer which is convenience. The fact that your 2010 i7 is still adequate for most people's use illustrates my point. If home desktops were a healthy market, you wouldn't see performance improvements sitting in the doldrums for the last half-decade and the manufacturers obsess over reductions in TDP.

>>"See now that software bloat isn't killing CPU's since the Core series came out, people haven't been upgrading as often."

I'm not sure exactly how that addresses my point but a big part of the reason they haven't been upgrading so much is because there's little to upgrade to. If you have a 4870K then what do you actually get out of going to a 5830? Not much. To Skylake? Not much. It's stagnated in every area except IGPs (which brings us back to the focus on non-desktop) and power consumption (again, a non-desktop priority). Intel are many terrible things, but stupid they ain't. They chase the money.

>>"Also I don't know about you bu I find it much easier working off my two 24" LCD's than a piddly notebook screen and keyboard, especially with some of the keyboard layouts you get with your supposedly superior notebook type keyboards. "

Where the Hell did you get 'supposedly superior notebook type keyboards' from? You seem to have missed what I actually wrote which was that you can connect your mobile device up to monitors and keyboards. You can run those two 24" monitors fairly comfortably from a Surface Pro.

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Mainframe, we've missed you!

You store your data in the "Cloud" (aka racks of disks in some datacentre), domestic computing is moving further and further away from a bulky box and toward sleek little tablets and laptops with greater need for form-factor and low energy-usage over processing power. We're now at the point where you can connect your phone into a monitor and keyboard and use it as a computer. Just, like William Gibson said, the future is not widely distributed yet. MS claim they have a way of you encrypting remote processes in a secure way (we will see). Oh, and really fast Internet connections are becoming more common.

So if you have the bandwidth and low-latency, you can get the basics (hooking up the peripherals and providing an OS) with a small, light device and your data is non-local anyway... What's left that needs to be done locally? Well, graphics I guess... What's that you say, AMD?

Queue angry objections by those who love their big fat desktop. Loud and a diminishing minority.

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Ashley Madison hacked potential competitor, leaked emails suggest

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Re: Pen test

One of the other emails (given by Krebs' site) has the CEO emailing their CTO before a meeting with Nerve's executives asking "should I tell them about their security problems"? That may or may not be part of an approved pentest (doesn't rule it out, doesn't prove it), but it very strongly suggests that the CEO was regarding it as something other than a exploitative hack attempt of a competitor. Either it was an approved pen test as AM claim and their CEO was just wondering if the stuff was something that should be raised at that level (not being their area, they probably didn't have a good handle on seriousness / appropriateness of raising this stuff at that level); or else the CTO had just taken it upon themselves to go and have a poke around at a potential acquisitions IT sites to get a feel for their quality and the CEO was asking if that was a legitimate thing to bring up with them.

I have to say that if your company might be entering into an association with another, I am not surprised if technical people within the company go over to the other site and have a look at the front door. Isn't the general attitude on this site historically that hackers who had a look at a site or software and found some flaws and then let the vendor know about it, good guys (white hats)? Has that suddenly changed for Ashley Madison? Seems so. Though as the OP writes, this is just from two emails, there could well be others that support what AM said that it was an approved pentest.

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Scrapheap challenge: How Amazon and Google are dumbing down the gogglebox

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Re: Its not smart to buy a smart TV

It may not be smart to buy a smart TV, but is there any choice anymore? I might like to buy a better TV (4K is now affordable and content is slowly starting to appear), but I don't know of any where they're not loaded with crapware. The problem with that? Well apart from disliking paying extra for things I don't want, there's an issue which I'm surprised wasn't a core part of the article - security. I can keep my computers up to date, I can keep my router up to date and anything else that sits on my home network. But "smart" Blu-ray players or TVs? No I can't because even if I take the time to update them, I don't trust the manufacturer to do their part. Not in the short term, certainly not in the long-term. I don't trust them at all in fact. And it's not like Windows or Linux or OSX where I can have a reasonable expectation of fixes, and such. I fully expect a Smart TV to be a deep irritation to the manufacturer once it's actually sold, grudgingly updated on rare occasions if at all. In return for which I have what is essentially a low-powered and unmaintained computer on my home network that I can't review, patch or really do anything much with at all.

I suppose I can isolate it on the network or leave it disconnected entirely, but then I can't do even basic things like stream content to it via DLNA. The more "smart" a TV gets, the more of a risk it is, and you can no longer buy any decent TV that isn't.

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Krebs: I know who hacked Ashley Madison

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Re: salted duplicate check

>>"So you have to read every row in the table and do some computation on it, before inserting your single new row? Nice DDOS opportunity."

That would indeed be a consequence of what they wrote. Happily, despite some people cheerfully upvoting them, they got it wrong. However as I've been downvoted for correcting them, I like your method of actually proving why it's unworkable. Good catch.

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Re: salted duplicate check

>>"In any case, you need to store each user's salt value in plaintext so that you can use it when the user logs in."

This is correct, but the original statement was not. You do store your salt in the database - certainly not in the one that contains your password hashes. So for example, the webserver might have the salt, and it will use that to send only the hash to the database. That way if your database is compromised, the salt may not be. If people are going to use the Boffin icon and correct others, they should get their facts right. It is not necessary to have your salt in the database and is actually a bad thing to do.

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>>"12345 that's the kind of password an idiot has on his travel luggage

And coincidentally the number of times I have heard that joke on El Reg forums..

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Re: salted duplicate check

>>"If salted hash is used, the salt values for all existing passwords are necessarily stored in the authentication database along with the hashes"

No, that is NOT correct. In fact, storing your salt in the database alongside the passwords would be bad practice. You store it elsewhere and just query the database for the salted hash, not do it all on / within the database. All the database needs is the hash, not the salt.

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Hmmmm

Reading this I have to conclude one of three things. Either this Twitter account is a dead-end, well protected and untraceable back to any physical body, someone has set them up to be a patsy or, option three, the hacker is an idiot.

EDIT: I suppose a couple of other possibilities having just had a look at their Twitter feed. Deuszu could just be a fan, playing at being a red-herring. If they and Krebs have a common source for that link then that is viable. Alternately they could be the hacker and are so confident in their concealing of evidence they actually want to "taunt" people with visibility. That would be rather nuts, though. Finding someone who hacked you can be very hard. Finding if a specific someone hacked you, is a lot easier because you can start from the answer and work backwards, as it were.

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Vote now: Who can solve a problem like Ashley Madison?

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Re: JMcA obviously!

Well the thing is, normally I would pick Bruce Schneier as he's undoubtedly brilliant and one of the most respected security professionals in the business. But at this point it's gone beyond a security problem and become the sort of PR debacle that no inside-the-box thinking and seriousness can fix.

Meaning the only person on the list who I think would have a hope in Hell of pulling something out of this fire is McAfee who would shrug, make some jokes and handle the unprecedented amount of criticism and hate without at any point appearing ruffled.

(Rumpled maybe, however)

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Nano – meet her: AMD's Radeon R9 4K graphics card for non-totally bonkers gamers, people

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Re: Having a giraffe..

Better at DX12 though, based on evidence so far.

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FBI probed SciFi author Ray Bradbury for plot to glum-down America

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>>"A psychiatrist once said that optimists are people who should be certified as clinically insane. Whereas those defined as clinically depressed actually have a fairly good grip on reality"

And a non-psychiatrist once described psychiatry as "the study of people who don't need help by those who do".

I'll leave it up to El Reg readers to decide which view they trust.

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Re: Corrupting America?

To be fair, he does seem to have some success at "corrupting the youth". :D

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High-heeled hacker builds pen-test kit into her skyscraper shoes

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>>"It might come as a shock. But it's not about you. Sometimes we do things for ourselves. Crazy, I know."

Hey. Welcome to The Register! I found your article fun. Building your own hacking kit into high-heels is pretty cool. Please ignore the troll - I think some people just enjoy feeling superior by looking down on what others like / choose. If your looks make some people underestimate your technical skills because they are stuck on some "geek" image of programmer, that's an advantage to you! :)

I like that your shoes will pass under many metal detectors at doorways, btw.

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>>"however that LED-illuminated dress looks a fun idea for a girlfriend who likes to go commando"

Or actually an effective defence against perverts trying to take up-skirt photographs.

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>>"I quite like that idea, but does it recurse? I.e. if OP had included a picture of himself in heels and a tight dress, and I wanted to criticise his appearance would I need to go wardrobe raiding too?"

Yes, it's turtlesblack mini-dresses all the way down.

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>>Is that her in the picture? She looks deformed

I think there should be a rule that anyone posting physical criticisms of people in an article should be required to accompany it with a recent photo of themself. Similarly dressed, for fairness.

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Re: Given the size of a small mobile

>>I've never been sure if that was meant as a blessing or a curse

Generally meant as a curse. It is alleged to be the reply Confucious gave to a student who moaned about finding themselves living in a peaceful society instead of the interesting times they read about in history. But that is probably a later invention. All we really know is that it was supposed to be a Chinese curse by the British.

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Brit hydro fuel cell maker: our tech charges iPhone 6 for a week

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Re: Bah, humbug

>>"Streaming spotify will empty most phones in under 8 hours"

Yeah, of their personal data you mean.

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Even 'super hackers' leave entries in logs, so prepare to drown in data

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Re: Teeth grating

And invidious.

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Ashley Madison spam starts, as leak linked to first suicide

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Stealing a rival company's customer list and then spamming all of them with sales pitches is not, imho, "something positive".

Anyway, whilst I'm posting I might as well add my own voice to the Trustify are scum crowd. Troy Hunt (in the article) set up a system whereby you could search for your details but it would only confirm by sending the results to the registered email address. THAT is responsible. Trustify are not.

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Windows 10 market share growth slows to just ten per cent

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Re: not cause for celebration

"Pushed" is one word for it. 'Rammed' might be a better one. It took me three goes to finally get rid of ads for Windows 10 popping up in my 8.1. installation. Tried uninstalling the update - it just comes back. Tried uninstalling and blocking the update - no way to block them on the Pro version. Well there is, but this one is excluded from the ones you can block. Tried a registry edit I found online - no effect. Found the GWX service buried in a list of services, disabled that AND applied a different registry edit I found, finally seems to have stop shoving ads in my face.

Very unimpressed.

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Ashley Madison hack – Tory MP Green denies registering account

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Excellent.

I love our politicians being judged on the basis of their sex lives. It's such an important part of their jobs, you see. That's how we got rid of Clinton and kept Bush, for example.

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Spotify now officially even worse than the NSA

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Yeah, a bit like airport security 'ask you' to "step this way".

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Spotify climbs down on new terms and conditions

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Re: peer-to-peer

Wow. That one needs a little more publicizing - I had no idea it did that. That could be especially bad in a work context but either way is not in. Maybe they should be paying their users instead of the other way around, given all we're finding out about them.

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Re: but I don't *want* to

>>I don't know if Deezer is any better, but I am going to give it a go.

http://www.deezer.com/legal/personal-datas

Hard to say whether they're actually good in practice without trying the software, but they at least appear to allow a choice in the matter.

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I used to have a paid Spotify account - "Premier" or whatever it was called. I cancelled it when they started really pushing Facebook-integration and playlist sharing.

If they want to advertise to free users, that's up to them. But they don't get to treat my data as some sort of bonus on top of my subscription payments. So goodbye to them. I find it hard to imagine they make more money from advertisers per user than the subscription fee so their loss. These days I just buy the MP3's and on-balance, I think I actually save money that way with the range of music I listen to.

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Second Ashley Madison dump prompts more inside-job speculation

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Re: Really?

>>"The hubris of these people is astonishing. Surely they can't survive as a going concern after this."

As pointed out multiple times by people, it is very, very hard to guard against attacks from the inside. Your technical safeguards can be as good as you like but ask Snowden how much that hindered him.

But yes, the witch hunt is on. One quote in the media I saw on this was from someone saying "they couldn't find their husband's email address on the list so they must have used a fake email account then". My other favourite is someone who is complaining about the leak because they signed up to AM to try and catch their husband cheating on them and now she's on the list and he is not - and she's blaming AM for it. I'm not saying AM are without fault here - I simply don't know and I doubt anyone outside the investigating people (and the hacker) actually can say. I'm just pointing out that a lot of the finger-pointing going on here isn't reasonable. Yes, you can score a few cheap upvotes by expressing disbelief at someone's hubris/stupidity/credulity/whatever - you always can because the Internet mob is addicted to seeing people have flaws pointed out. They love it more than chips. But that doesn't necessarily make it so.

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US military says it will discipline Ashley Madison users

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What's it got to so with them?

See subject. If the US army can kill hundreds of thousands of people in an invasion for oil and some soldiers looking for sex is what brings disgrace, then there's something deeply wrong here.

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Ashley Madison wide open to UK privacy lawsuits, claim lawyers

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Re: Wait a minute

>>"Class action Lawsuit's already started, led by a widower:"

He says that he signed up after his wife died and wants $7.5m dollars in damages. That's a lot of money.

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Re: Might not be as easy as that...

>>"Yes, But... A company that refused to delete sensitive information, even when paid to do just that?"

Did they actually do that, though? I know it's been alleged but not sure there's any evidence. They still have the 'please close my account' ones in there, as expected. But do they have the paid for complete data removal ones. When is the dump from? A removal request could be after the time of the theft.

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Re: Might not be as easy as that...

>>"3. You would have to prove AM failed to implement suitable security measures (i.e. the mere fact the breach occurred is not sufficient). This could be difficult if this is in fact an inside job."

Which looks very, very likely. The "blackmail" aspect doesn't hold up - pretty much everything points to this being someone with privileged access and a major, major grudge against AM. Maybe they got cheated on and blame AM for it, maybe it's something else. But this doesn't look like some random hacking team exploiting a SQL injection in order to make money. Which means they might be able to start from a shortlist of suspects and there's a very good chance, imo, that we might find out who did this. In which case they are in some very deep trouble.

But anyway, the point is as it looks like an inside job that is very, very hard to guard against. I work with companies that have excellent technical security but could be floored by one rogue employee. Can you sue someone for having lax security in this area? When even the most secure organizations are susceptible to betrayal from the inside?

If you disagree, consider the name "Snowden".

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Now Ashley Madison hackers reveal 'CEO's emails and source code'

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Re: Internal Emails

>>"Should be fun to find out exactly what the Company thinks of it's client base."

Doesn't really matter. With a sufficient volume of emails and the ability to present them selectively, you can make ANY company look like angels or devils according to which you wish to prove.

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Re: "No, that data dump is totally fa" *SMACK*

>>"AM is still advertising on TV in Sydney Australia. I guess they're hoping no-one has heard what's happened"

I don't know but would guess, that TV ads aren't sold and organized the week before they air on a "let's buy an ad slot before tomorrow's Coronation Street, I'm feeling like it". I also don't know but would guess, that calling up a TV station and saying "we've changed our mind about that ad slot on Tuesday can we have our money back please?" doesn't get you a full refund.

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Microsoft will explain only 'significant' Windows 10 updates

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Re: @Mark 85 The seem to be going in an unsavory direction...

>>"Guess again., If none of Microsoft's Win 10 shenanigans up to this point haven't gotten you to actually move to Linux then there's no reason why this particular shenanigan should be the deciding factor."

Incorrect. Things accumulate and eventually people get pissed off enough to do something. I have a lot of GNU/Linux skills - it's where I started out. I moved over to Windows mid-cycle of Windows 7 because I found it was a good OS and I liked a lot of what they were doing. It was a new era for MS, it seemed. I'm on Windows 8 currently and MS's recent change in direction (and constant ads for Windows 10 they inserted against my wishes into my Windows 8 installation), have recently made me re-evaluate switching my primary back of to GNU/Linux. Haven't yet - am still considering. But right now they're losing my trust so back to GNU/Linux is looking more and more probable with every story like this I read.

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Enjoy vaping while you still can, warns Public Health England

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Re: Why should they ban them?

>>"If you are personally offended by then, you can personally piss off.

And that was exactly the attitude of the American guy in the pub - didn't care whether he was bothering anyone else, just a smug sense of moral superiority that other people would have to deal with it and he didn't have to show any consideration.

He didn't stop until staff had to actually tell him to.

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Re: "Almost certainly"

>>"No one believes or cares whether vaping is 'safe.' Vaping is SAFER. That's all that counts"

Obviously it's safer than traditional cigarettes - by far. The question of whether it's "safe", which lets face it nothing really is, matters because if it becomes accepted as harmless it will be promoted widely by Big Pharma who stand to make a fortune out of something that is still essentially a highly addictive drug. It's not even a fun one, really. Just something you keep needing. Being able to sell addictive cigarettes but without being damned as cancer-causing devils? Every big pharma company's dream. The new Prrozac.

So the question of whether it is "safe" matters very much.

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"No worse than cheap perfume in my view"

I wouldn't like it if someone kept inhaling and blowing cheap perfume at me, either.

Point is, it's not suddenly a way for smokers to disregard others around them like the old days when smoking in restaurants was normal.

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Still unpleasant to smell though. Was in a restaurant in London a while back and some American guy (vapourizers weren't as known over here then) pulled out his e-cig and started puffing clouds of the stuff over to our table. Seemed to think that because it wasn't actually a cigarette it was suddenly fine to use indoors in a place filled with non-smokers.

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You CAN'T jail online pirates for 10 years, legal eagles tell UK govt

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Re: Of course it will work...

>>"The link clearly states he was prosecuted for sharing files (i.e. distribution), not for downloading."

Jammie Thomas is a woman, actually. But you are correct, she was prosecuted for distributing the content, not for downloading it. Other important things to note are that this was American trial and the point was to find any cases in British law which is what we're actually discussing, and that contrary to what was claimed by the OP, the initial fine was $5,000 dollars, not $250,000. It grew over the intervening years during which court cases were dragged out and turned over again and again during which she claimed that: she'd never distributed copyrighted material, that distributing the files had been fair use, and that there was no financial harm from distributing the material. There was also the fact she bought a new hard drive and tried to fake load it with data to swap it into evidence in place of the actual harddrive from her computer. Or my personal favourite - hiring a professor of computer science from a local university to testify that the files could have been shared by someone on the same local loop as her spoofing her MAC address.

But like I say, not British law so not that relevant to this amendment. The OP will not be able to find cases of people receiving big prison sentences for downloading music in British law because there aren't any. To be honest, I'd be surprised if they managed to find cases of even tiny prison sentences for it. Maybe a couple of cases with special circumstances around them. Like I said elsewhere, what you get for small scale domestic piracy - in the rare case you get anything - is a fine. Even in this American case, that's what she initially got before she dragged it through a three-year court battle of escalating costs and outright perjury.

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Re: I'm sorry

>>The person who downvoted that comment

>>"So downloading a bunch of films is worth more than a kids life."

>>is a fucking idiot

I downvoted it. And did so because it's factually inaccurate and phrased to try and make this sound like something it isn't. You don't get two years for "downloading a bunch of films" nor will this amendment mean that you start to. And the maximum sentence for "Causing Death by Dangerous Driving" is 14 years. The poster is trying to make it sound like home piracy is treated more seriously than running someone over which is not the case. They either don't understand the law or, more likely, they're willing to misrepresent things with short sound-bites in order to bolster their preferred view. I bet they don't like it when politicians do that but they seem happy to do it themself.

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And that's a fine thing to do. It's all the people who say movies / music / software is crap and not worth paying for and then torrent the Hell out of them that are the problem.

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Re: There is another way

>>"If harmonising the maximum penalties for both the online and offline versions of the crime is necessary and raising the 2 years to 10 is seen as undesirable, why has no-one considered dropping the 10 years to 2. Obvious solution is obvious."

Because example cases where multi-year sentences have actually been handed out are for things like trading in $20million of pirated software, channelling £50,000 advertising revenue per month through Latvian banks to South American-registered companies, etc. So reducing everything down would put all this substantially lower than comparable crimes where you charged someone for the same thing under Fraud laws, etc. Do you also want to treat people more leniently for ripping off millions via fraud? Because otherwise your suggestion leads to two people committing equally damaging acts but one being treated wildly differently. And then if you're making fraud less of a crime, that's going to lead on to others in turn.

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Adulterers antsy as 'entire' Ashley Madison databases leak online

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Re: Karma?

>>"I'm all for the "duty of society" and so on, but parents (and given the >90% figure it will be the fathers) have duties and responsibilities too. If the consequences of their actions hurt their loved ones, well, perhaps they shouldn't have done it in the first place."

When something happens it is a product of all the people who made it happen, not just one of them. If someone cheated on their partner using this site, that is one requirement to be on this list (well, actually can be on it without that but anyway...). But there is also a requirement for these hackers to have publicized the list to make the problem much worse. It seems biased to respond to criticism of these hackers by trying to make being on this public list solely the fault of one party - clearly it is the product of both. It suggests to me you have a desire to blame the one party.

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