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Apple iPhone 6: Looking good, slim. How about... oh, your battery died

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Re: Crap Battery

Batteries are funny things. One thing I do with a new device is charge it all day and then discharge it completely. Thereafter I use it normally. Not sure if that is still advisable with the current generation of battery but it used to be good practice.

Personally, I'd like to see a hydrogen fuel cell in my phone. Re-fill it like a lighter and run it all week. Icon for obvious reasons.

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Re: How much?

>>The lengths Apple went to to keep us away from the new iPhones was amusing."

Really? Care to share details? I'm sure quite a few El Reg readers would find a tell-all on Apple's press and marketing relationship quite an interesting one. How DO they keep you away from the phone or get you talking about it? Do they just say "no, you can't have a review sample" or do they bother to make up justifications? Do they ever hint you might be invited if you wrote a kinder review, etc?

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Re: I'm trying very hard to give a shit

>>"and failing miserably"

I realize where I've been going wrong all this time now. I had thought this was a forum for people who were enthusiastic about technology, but it's actually a place for people to complain about it. Both sorts of forum discuss tech though, so it was easy to mistake one for the other.

Much becomes clear!

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Re: I'm trying very hard to give a shit

>>"Laxatives. That's what you need. Laxatives and a copy of Autotrader."

It might be more expensive than Autotrader, but I would really personally recommend you spring for a roll of Andrex instead.

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Re: Security

>>"They don't get your name, nor any sort of unique information at all that lets them know whether you're a first time customer or visit them daily."

Is that confirmed / reference? Not disagreeing, just this is very interesting if true and I would like to confirm.

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Will Europe's ISPs unmask anonymous IP infringers?

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Anonimity is too important.

I'm against piracy and they should certainly go after those that facilitate it. And there are ways they can do that other than measures such as this. Something like this is both too damaging in other areas and fights against the nature of the Internet.

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THE DEATH OF ECONOMICS: Aircraft design vs flat-lining financial models

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Re: If you give a politician 1£ ...

>>"the problem is deciding which programs to write..."

No, the problem is specifying your use case in precise enough terms that automated tools can take over. And that not only will happen, but is happening. The nature of programming will increasingly shift from writing the software, to writing the tools to specify that software. And once that second part is done to a sufficient degree, it starts to turn on itself and reduce the total amount of programming that is done by people. Barring accident, I should be able to see out another forty years.

Forty years ago C had just been invented and people were arguing fiercely over whether programming without GoTo was wasteful. You honestly think now that we have the tools to automate much of code production we wont? From the point of view of someone forty years ago, we've already done that with all our compilers and high level languages and we're just specifying how the computer should write the code. From our point of view, the future will look the same and in the same terms.

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Re: The Mission of Banks is to Cause Debt!

>>"Speaking from the UK, the US way is the way it *should* be done: when the bank lends me the money to purchase a house, it should be evaluating the risk of me failing to repay the loan. That risk (averaged over a number of purchasers), plus a bit of profit, should be the interest on the loan."

If someone asks me to borrow some money and then they can't or wont pay it back, why should I not be able to pursue the money they have taken from me? If I borrowed £50,000 from you and then said you couldn't have it back because the way I'd spent it hadn't worked out how I planned, would you be happy? If not, then why should banks live by a different principle?

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Re: If you give a politician 1£ ...

Wow. That's a lot of downvotes in a short amount of time. I'm going to hope that's people objecting to the idea that automated code production will eventually supercede most cases of human code production, rather than objecting to the idea that women can write good software.

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Re: Where's Worstall?

>>"Both energy and time are inherently finite."

But you must concede, both are on a rather different order of magnitude than things like aluminium or land. If you have to factor in the heat death of the Universe as your rebuttal to an economic argument, there may be a case to make that your rebuttal lacks practical relevance.

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Re: If you give a politician 1£ ...

>>"even a computer program must be programmed by a man at some point)"

Actually, some very good ones have been written by women, thankyouverymuch. Perhaps you meant person. Though even that will change with time - I will certainly live to see computers become better programmers than people in the majority of scenarios, barring personal misfortune.

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Re: The Mission of Banks is to Cause Debt!

>>By the way, USA mortgage law is different to UK law. If the mortgaged house is handed over to the bank in the USA, that is the end of the debt. If the house sells for less than the debt, the bank gets to carry the loss."

SERIOUSLY?!?! How the Hell did that come about? And secondly, why the Hell do American banks not change their lending terms to be the same as in the UK?

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Re: Why the engines on an airliner are set forward

If it reassures, I wouldn't call the author of this article an economist. At least I seriously hope he isn't given the rubbish I've just read. What is his actual background / qualification to write these articles? Give me a Tim Worstall article if El Reg is going to go paddling in Economic Theory. The author of this piece is just grinding their axe.

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Re: One factor left out - The System

The Greens have one especial glaring fault - an obsession with wind power and a conditioned rejection of nuclear power. Energy is one of the few fundamentals in our society - if you have cheap and plentiful energy much of the rest follows.

But the Green Party keep turning their backs on tme best source of it in favour of massive and detrimental subsidies for one of the least effective sources. If they'd make an evidence-based decision on it, they'd have removed the biggest reason not to vote for them as far as I'm concerned.

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Blood-crazed Microsoft axes Trustworthy Computing Group

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This is stupid.

Rationalizing the newly acquired Nokia components makes sense as there's inevitably going to be some overlap. Dismantling actual research units is a terrible mistake. MS need to be focusing on higher quality right now, not cutting costs.

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'Windows 9' LEAK: Microsoft's playing catchup with Linux

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Re: Meeeh

Well it's nice to know that even though the only reason you honestly don't assault me is because it's illegal (your words and emphasis on actually meaning it)... and that you say you'd love to do so (more of your words)... Oh, and that you've elsewhere said you'll do your best to find out someone's real identity; that your post is "far from hostile". That's very good to know.

Another interesting contradiction is where you say I "lost my shit" in my initial response to your comment. My original response to your barrage of name calling was a one line suggestion not to make things personal: "That's it, let the hate flow. It's good to turn an argument personal, isn't it?"

"Lose your shit" is not one of my phrases but I don't see that my one line post above really counts! Whereas your fourteen line response to my one liner calling me further names and making up quotes from me, I think that better qualifies as "losing your shit" than mine. To say nothing of the latest thirty paragraph post (and that's excluding the quotes from me) and all the other personal insults and threats elsewhere.

Seriously, if you're now going to add the whole 'You mad?' style of personal attack to your other bits of rhetoric, I think you should realize that the one who is posting constant name calling, expressions of how they'd like to do violence to the other poster and made up quotes, is the one who appears to be "losing their shit", in all honesty.

My last post I suggested we drew a line under this. Apparently not good enough for you. You'd rather attack me further. I said right at the beginning of this that aggressive personalized attacks and name calling had no place here, that they make the forum a less welcoming place and are detrimental to good discourse. You responded that "This isn't debate club". Doesn't have to be. People can be polite in all sorts of situations. But really, you can take or leave that. The main thing is that you're taking a couple of lines of mine, putting your own vastly exaggerated spin on them with your own phrasing and going berserk over it. There's no point. It's just being silly and contributes nothing.

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Re: Meeeh

Trevor - some of what you say in your post I respect, other parts, I obviously disagree with. My interest here is constructive debate and a welcoming tone, not winning a pissing match. And I now believe you on the issue of not singling me out because of bias as my post was on the first page and so it is reasonable that you might have simply reached my post as one of the first and not gone farther to reach the others. So let's draw a line under this.

For reference, the parts that I disliked in your post were two - firstly, online threats to people are silly and remain silly. Making them will always mark your post down and likely get me responding with how silly I find them. I don't like a threatening tone and if you don't realize you sound threatening, let me tell you that now. Even in the unlikely event of violence taking place, it would still prove nothing. It simply has no place in a discussion. If you're under the impression it is humour, it isn't. I hope you'll take this as just feedback as to why this has turned into such an ugly mess from my point of view.

The second thing, and the reason you got such a strong response is because you stated I had said the Start Screen was better "because I said so". I never make subjective arguments. If I do say something subjective, I call it out myself to clarify. I respond to accusations of subjectivity about as well as you respond to accusations of lying. If you had confined your post to saying: "there's no reason both Start Screen and Start Menu can be optional, it's false to argue there should only be one preference", then you would have got an agreement from me.

You didn't do that. You went from my saying "I could do without the Start Menu back, I wish MS would stick to their vision for once" to calling me the "Champion of Fuck Everyone Else" and issuing threats. What response did you expect if not a rebuttal? You could also have simply pointed out that the Start Screen isn't being removed which is revealed in a blink and you'll miss it moment near the end of the video and which I hadn't seen. But instead you didn't do that - you went straight into war mode. You'll note that my initial response wasn't even objecting you saying there should be choice. I agree choice is usually good. All I wrote in my initial response was a criticism of your aggressive turning of things personal. Which I think is reasonable enough.

So, TL:DR; I apologise for calling you a liar (though your Hanlon's Razor defence missed a rather obvious third option, btw) as I can now see reasons why you might have singled out my post simply due to the order they appear. But making things personal and threatening is absurdly hostile and nowhere have I argued Start Screen is better just because I say so. So anyway, you have made a peace offering with a few nested But I'm Right Anyway's . I'll extend the same courtesy and this is my peace offering (with a few appended But I'm Right Anyway's ;) ). Hopefully we can be amicable and put an end to it for the sake of good discussion, now and I extend the traditional Beer icon to you. :)

Though I do have a few opinions on IPv6 whilst you're here. ;) :) (I kid! I kid!).

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>>"The freedom aspect is primarily what has made Linux successful here"

Well no, the free (as in Beer) aspect is an enabler of success. In that if it cost a lot of money that would obviously have held it back. But it's not the reason GNU/Linux has been a great success. It's because it's very capable of doing the job. Evidence: it is free as both a server platform for websites and as a Desktop OS for end users. But it is massively more successful as the former. Ergo, whilst its low cost helps allow it to be taken up, it's the tremendous suitability that has really established it. Also, anecdotally, I work with clients who would be perfectly willing to use Windows Server and pay the costs if that's what the admins told them was needed, but the admins have said "we're putting in some new CentOS servers" and the higher-ups have simply nodded and signed off pretty much the same way they would have if the admins had said "Windows Server, sign here". I genuinely think that the cost (free as in beer) aspect of GNU/Linux is a secondary factor for its success to its actual capability and reliability. And this is coming from someone who likes Windows Server 2012 quite a lot, btw!

>>"It's the fact that there are no restrictions on how you can use it, and that you can modify it in any way you like."

Well, the GPL2 does have restrictions and they're every bit as enforceable as any other copyright-based law. Also, there are practical restrictions on what you can do. The vast majority of Open Source code works in a friendly and compatible way without forking, especially something as fundamental as the Linux kernel or the GNU tools.

"If Microsoft are going to go anywhere of consequence in the IOT space they need to radically overhaul their licensing models and really let things go."

I actually don't think that's necessary. People are willing to pay an extra for things if they like it. Technically OSX is free, but in practice you pay for it as part of buying a Mac. Microsoft suffered badly as a consequence of the Race to the Bottom that most OEMs pulled between 2000 to 2010. It took a while to come home but when it did, Macs savaged Windows laptops badly and Google found a way to monetize people, meaning they could attack the bottom end as well. MS and its OEMs only good way of fighting back against this is not to cut costs, but to raise quality. They're not going to win on price because they can't and because people are actually willing to pay for quality (laptops are being bought and kept for much longer now, as the pace of technology power is hitting Good Enough, and so seen as more of an investment worth paying for).

So changes to licencing the mobile area can help encourage OEMs, but overall, MS need to focus on high quality. Anything else is a strategic mistake, imo.

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Re: Meeeh

Trevor, mostly what I got from your post is that you use the word "gonads" a lot and you're big on making Internet Threats. Reminds me of when you said you'd do everything in your power to find out the real identity of a poster here. You don't seem to care that you're making the forums here a hostile place for people.

And when I point out that all your "quotes" are things that don't sound remotely like what I said, you respond with outright saying you don't care, that "Yes. Exactly. I was not attempting to argue with you or debate" and that "I wasn't arguing with you. I wasn't debating. I wasn't trying to counter your shit. I was calling you a douche".

What is the point of that?

I asked you to find where I had written anything that matched the strawmen you keep posting in your supposed quotes, and the best you can do is tell me what I really meant by something else.

You also lie. I pointed out that of all the posts here you attack me for being 'anti-choice' (your strawman), but not any of the people calling for the Start Screen to abolished. You respond that you don't have time to go through all the posts in this thread. But in all these posts I think mine is the only one that argues why the Start Screen is better. And yet it's the single one you attacked with a load of personal insults. Logic suggests your reasons are not what you paint them.

What is the point of my debating with someone who explicitly says they aren't interested in discussion, but just wants to 'kick me in the shins'?

It's just pointless, it's intellectually flawed and it makes for a hostile environment. And honestly, it's just silly.

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Re: Meeeh

>>"Double-clicking and dragging windows around with the mouse have been pretty universal GUI interfaces since the 1980's when mouses came into general use"

Not what I wrote. My point was that double-clicking is not inherently discoverable. Most mouse use isn't. My point is that they're known through familiarity not their obviousness and therefore supposed lack of discoverability of the active sides in Windows 8 can't be dismissed for a reason that is common to both.

Also, it's "mices". ;)

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Re: Case Sensitive File Systems...

>>"Can tell you're a primarily English speaker and writer simply from that statement. I am too, but I've had to write multi-language programs, and let me tell you, case insensitive wording is NOT as easy as you make it sound; it only seems that way to those who only deal with the standard Latin alphabet. When you start getting into extended characters, defining what is "case insensitive" becomes a huge PITA."

Was just watching this sub-debate as I can see strong merit on both sides of it. But the above appears to me to be an argument for letting the OS / Filesystem handle case insensitivity rather than at the application level. As your post appears to be presented as a counter argument to Def's, I was wondering if you were intending it as such or meant it otherwise.

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Re: No POSIX

>>"The features you+TheVogon mention aren't anything special - PHP or Dart (wild/thoughtless examples), support most of that (plus more), and the others are specific to what you'd use Powershell for."

That's fine. My own point of comparison if you wanted something "better" would be Python. I was answering mainly in the context of the ongoing Linux vs. Windows silliness that is going on here. Remember, the question I asked "what can't you do in Powershell" was a direct response to someone saying the lack of decent scripting on Windows put it behind GNU/Linux.

I find Powershell very capable and very well suited for its role. I don't think Dart is really a like to like comparison. Nor is PHP, imo. Which is why I referenced Python. Perl could also be a good comparison basis if someone wanted, but I have no experience with Perl.

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Re: No POSIX

>> As a scripting language, it's OK - nothing special,

What makes you say that? Here is a list of nice extras it has that TheVogon posted a while back (and which I have shamelessly stolen from Link).

!--Not my words below here

1) Object oriented pipes so that I don't have to format and reparse and be concerned about language settings.

2) Command metadata. PowerShell commands, functions and even *script files* expose metadata about the names, positions, types and validation rules for parameters, allowing the *shell* to perform type coercion, allowing the *shell* to explain the parameters/syntax, allowing the *shell* to support both tab completion and auto-suggestions with no need for external and cumbersome completion definitions.

3) Robust risk management. Look up common parameters -WhatIf, -Confirm, -Force and consider how they are supported by ambient values in scripts you author yourself.

4) Multiple location types and -providers. Even a SQL Server appears as a navigable file system. Want to work with a certain database? Just switch to the sqlserver: drive and navigate to the server/database and start selecting, creating tables etc.

5) Fan-out remoting. Execute the same script transparently and *robustly* on multiple servers and consolidate the results back on the controlling console. Try icm host1,host2,host3 {ps} and watch how you get consolidated, object-oriented process descriptions from multiple servers.

6) Workflow scripting. PowerShell scripts can (since v3) be defined as workflows which are suspendable, resumable and which can pick up and continue even across system restarts.

7) Parallel scripting. No, not just starting multiple processes, but having the actual *script* branch out and run massively parallel.

8) True remote sessions where you don't step into and out of remote sessions but actually controls any number of remote sessions from the outside.

9) PowerShell web access. You can now set up a IIS with PWA as a gateway. This gives you a firewall-friendly remote command line in any standards compliant browser.

10) Superior security features, e.g. script signing, memory encryption, proper multi-mode credentials allowing script to be agnostic about authentication schemes which may go way beyond stupid username+password and use smart cards, tokens, OTPs etc.

11) Transaction support right in the shell. Script actions can join any resource manager such as SQL server, registry, message queues in a single atomic transaction. Do that in bash?

12) Strongly typed stripting, extensive data types, e.g first class xml support and regex support right in the shell. Optional static/explicit typing. Real lambdas (script blocks) instead of stupidly relying on dangerous and error prone "eval" functions.

13) Real *structured* exception handling as an alternative to outdated traps (which PowerShell also has). try-catch-finally blocks.

14) Instrumentation, extensive tracing, transcript and *source level* debugging of scripts.

15) Consistent naming conventions covering verb-noun command names, common verbs, common parameter names.

!--My words begin again

These are awesome things that really put it high up. Unless perhaps you're comparing it to Python, but compared to old school scripting languages such as Bash, it's phenomenal.

>>"For the interactive command line, it's quite crap (in my opinion)."

Well the bare default terminal is, that's why I pointed you at ISE which comes installed on all Windows 7 and 8 boxes by default and includes things like an integrated debugger!

EDIT: For some reason I lost my link to performing Windows updates via Powershell from my earlier reply to you. I've closed the tab now, but yes, you can do this also.

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Re: No POSIX

>>Move/resize/switch Windows?

Bit of an unusual thing to want to do from the commandline, but everything in Windows is an object so you can manipulate them from Powershell. For example:

Set-ForegroundWindow (Get-Process -id $pid).MainWindowHandle

>>Change the background image, or user's profile image

Again, everything in Windows is an object. Here is someone changing the wallpaper: Link. Of course they've written an entire class to do it, but you can see the simpler and essential part of it in the user's initial question.

>>Download and update a major OS upgrade?

We're good so far. :) But as I mentioned - it's objects all the way down and everything is accessible. If you can write a program to do it via the API, then you can do it from Powershell without any need of special programs.

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Re: Meeeh

>>Would you say to your client "You're just holding it wrong, dumbass! You just don't get it, do you? I've spent months working on this and you will use it because I know better"?

Seems to have worked pretty well for Apple so far.

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Re: Meeeh

It's also interesting that I wrote a thirteen paragraph post and it was modded down twice in under 60 seconds. Too many people vote based on their instinctive dislike of a poster or position rather than actually reading and considering. That's not helpful to anyone other than those pushing an agenda or satisfying a grudge. Less of a football team mentality around here would be a good thing.

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Re: No POSIX

>>"POSIX is an open set of industry standards, designed to improve interoperability. Windows is a closed Microsoft 'standard'. It would be easier for Microsoft to fully implement POSIX compliance than Linux implement Windows compliance. "

POSIX was designed to bring some consistency to UNIX operating systems and its family. I'm not even sure much of it applies to Windows.

>>"and it's even less common for Windows to have a halfway acceptable terminal app installed"

ISE comes as standard on WIndows 7 and 8. It's actually very nice. Also includes a built in debugger.

http://blog.soporteti.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/powershell_ise_gui.png

>>"Windows still can't be 100% configured / controlled from the command line"

Can you give an example of something that can't be managed in Windows via Powershell? Especially, as you're using this as a comparator to GNU/Linux, something that can be done on that other system.

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Re: Meeeh

>>"Your argument thus far has been "I, h4rm0ny, believe that the Start Screen is superior and new. Because I, h4rm0ny believe it is superior, and because it is new, everyone else should have the choice os using what they prefer removed from them and be forced to use what I, h4rm0ny, believe to be superior"

I've given numerous reasons why the Start Screen is better here and elsewhere and not one of them has been "because I believe so", I've talked about the number of programs commonly used, I've talked about mouse movements. None of my arguments have been subjective, all have been on direct demonstrable facts. You can argue with the reasoning if you wish, but you cannot legitimately claim that I have ever fallen back to an argument of "because I say so".

As to my "dictating" as you said, my post began "I for one could do without..." and stated I would prefer we kept the Start Screen that's the closest you'll find to me saying other people should not have a choice. Where is your angry response to all those people saying the Start Screen should be killed with fire or removed forever? Your angry post to me is because of my arguing the merits of the Start Screen. If I had argued for its obliteration you wouldn't have attacked me for 'setting my opinion up above other people's.' Don't pretend otherwise because there are countless posts here doing exactly that you ignore or mod up, because they share your preference.

I've long said the chief usability advantage of the Start Menu is familiarity. You'll find I never dispute with people when they say it's easier to stick with what you know. My position is that this is not an argument that something is better in itself and that this attitude is a block to improvement.

>>"How the metric fuck is that not personal? Calling you out for being a self-centered jackass isn't remotely out of line"

It's quite a lot out of line, actually. Calling me names carries no actual weight as an argument. It's just you venting. And as I pointed out, it's a gross double-standard as there are far more posts on El Reg doing little more than insisting the Start Menu should be obliterated that you ignore and with far less objective reasoning given than my arguments.

>>"when you've offered quite literally nothing as argumentation that isn't personal except the assertion "newer = better"

More strawmen. I invite you to find anywhere I have said that something is better because it is newer. And if you can't, how about an apology for all the personal insults and strawmanning my position? If you have intellectual honesty you will check and accept that I have never made such an argument. What I have done on occasion is criticise wanting to stick with something just because it is familiar and that's a very different thing and also often a reasonable criticism.

>>"So no, this one's on you. You made it personal from the outset by offering nothing except "I like it so fuck you all, you don't deserve choice" as an argument"

I think you don't understand the purpose of quote marks. I never said anything like that and you can only barely twist what I have said (I don't want to see the Start Menu back, the Start Screen is better) into "fuck you all, you don't deserve choice" with considerable effort.

>>"Because you're nobody"

:D See, if I post something like 'people who use more than 20 programs on a desktop computer routinely are a tiny minority and you can easily fit 20 programs on the Start Screen, thus meaning no menu navigation, just flat access, whereas even pinning things to the Start Menu you only get a dozen tops and thus have to navigate...' Well then you could respond by saying something like 'No, if I want more programs I could just pin them to the Desktop itself as shortcuts' and then you would be making an actual counter-argument. (Though a bad one as you'd now just be recreating the Start Screen on your desktop without the advanced features of it). But at least it would be an argument. But the above is just personal insult and an attack on a position I never made. Again, find anywhere in my posts at all, where I have argued something is better because I believe it so. I back up everything.

So again, stop making it personal and either actually engage in argument or stop strawmanning me. And less anger would be helpful also.

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Re: Meeeh

>>h4rm0ny: the internet champion of "fuck democracy, choice, or anyone else but me. The rest of the world should be forced to used things the way I like them, and given no alternative option!"

That's it, let the hate flow. It's good to turn an argument personal, isn't it?

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Re: Meeeh

>>"How did you "discover" these gestures? By clicking your mouse at random until it did something? Did you have to google it? RTFM?"

How did you discover double-clicking did something? How did you discover holding down the mouse button on a window bar and dragging moved the window around?

Honestly, you know you can swipe / drag from the side, I do, everybody here does. But I forget - the attitude on El Reg that we're all special people with great technological gifts. Perish the thought that Ordinary People could learn to do this quickly and easily.

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Re: Meeeh

>>"Perhaps if you didn't blindly cheer Microsoft's crappy ideas so then you wouldn't need to U-turn when they do."

I haven't U-turned in the slightest. I wrote about how I liked Start Screen when it was the way things were done, I'm writing about how I like it now when MS appear to be retreating on it. I have always been consistent except during the developer preview before I'd gotten used to it.

I am always consistent. It is MS that have changed directions which is why I now criticize them whereas before I was saying how good it was. This doesn't match up with your insults about "blindly cheerleading" at all.

And no, the customer is not "always right". Anyone who has ever worked in programming for a week knows that.

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Re: Meeeh

>>"H4rm0ny, I really can't tell whether that third paragraph is a joke or not, because nobody with half a brain could possibly hold that view."

I make a joke here about one day a year. Today is not that day.

>>"Swipe down - will that scroll? Will it close and lose my work? Minimise and keep my work? How do I tell what will happen before it happens?"

You can tell because it does the same thing as last time, and every time. Might as well ask how you would know what the little flat line is supposed to do if you've never clicked on it before. Swipe down close, swipe from left to switch between apps. Or just Alt+Tab if using a keyboard. Very easy, no need to clutter screen with window bars or icons - more screen real estate.

>>"Gestures cannot be labelled, and as they depend on context they are completely undiscoverable."

There are four directions you can swipe. That's pretty easy and once learned, you know. There are a dozen things just as unknown to you about your current OS but which you assume are obvious because you've grown used to them. Where is the tooltip on your double-click?

>>"The "half dozen" programs I commonly use pop up in the first level of the Windows 7 Start menu."

Start Screen holds five or more times that without having to resort to nesting or scrolling. Thus is better for anyone who uses forty or less programs regularly.

>>"The hundred or so programs that I don't use very often but still need to have show in a hierarchical menu structure that lets me put "like with like"."

They are still easily findable with the Start Screen either by scrolling down to the full list or simply typing. It is far better to optimize for the 90% of the time than the 10% of the time, so all those "hundred" programs (seriously) aren't cluttering up your normal usage. I'm a power user and I use about twenty programs routinely, and that's significantly more than most people. So why make people hunt for them in a menu with a small target area?

>>"I can already hit "windows" then type to search. Guess what - it simply doesn't work"

It does. I do it all day long. Win key, "ex" and return, I'm in Excel. Four key strokes quickly entered in less time than it would take to reach the mouse.

>>"How do you search for something when you do not know what it's called?"

In that minority case, you scroll down to the full list of programs and read.

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Re: It probably IS linux,

>>dressed up to look microsoftish. Because thats what I would do If I were microsoft. Make a microsoft window manager, and a mechanism for windows apps to interface to linux. Sorta super-wine

And get selling.

Seldom have I seen such a level of ignorance on software development. Do you honestly think (a) building an entire layer of fake windows on top of GNU/Linux would be less work than doing multi-desktop for real, (b) think the legions of developers who work with Windows wouldn't notice that suddenly they weren't developing for Windows anymore or (c) the huge, huge numbers of Windows users wouldn't notice that all their programs stopped working?

"method for Windows apps to interface with Linux"

You have no idea what you have hidden behind that sentence.

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Re: Bias

>>"Nothing like a biased article. The FACT is you can't even give Binux away"

Good to see that there are ill-informed trolls on both sides.

Or not.

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Re: Humble Pie

>>"Kate and Will's second sprog"

To be fair, I actually do find new mobile phone technology more interesting than some random couple's baby, functionally no different from any other baby. So I'm going to give them that one.

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JINGS! Microsoft Bing called Scots indyref RIGHT!

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>>"Matters not. The English electorate could have had a vote on either (or anything else for that matter) by following the same steps"

I'm not sure that's true. Voting to kick out a large section of the UK's population and render them stateless would be a very different prospect and I have a feeling it would be heavily illegal under International and EU law.

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Re: But would you want Salmond to be the President of Scotland?

>>"Compare Salmond to the two muppets currently battling for the UK hot-seat and you suddenly realise that some turds polish-up better than others."

You're not voting for which temporary politician you like most (or hate least). You're voting for the future state of your country.

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That's... well... Actually, yes, I would like to see that! :D

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Re: Surely the release of this apparently "reliable" prediction could influence the result?

You have to go to the "Bing Predicts "Bing Predicts Scotland Referendum"" link.

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Re: I'm fine with Scottish independence if it's what they want.

Well no-one believes Cameron's lies. For some reason, Salmond's are actually given credence by a number of the 'Yes' voters.

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I'm fine with Scottish independence if it's what they want.

I'm not fine with the amount of lies and promises Alex Salmond is telling the Scottish people. He's promising things he has no power to deliver and which are, imo, pretty unlikely to happen.

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Re: ...and then you show them

Same here - I wasn't fussed until I saw a good quality 4K TV in a shop. It was very impressive. However the thing holding me back (aside from sensibly waiting for prices to fall a little), is that I've heard old SD content on a 4K display looks awful. Can anyone confirm? I like new movies, but I like a bunch of old ones, too. I would hate to spend a lot of money on such a TV and then find that many of my favourites looked worse than on HD.

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Re: This will end up being ignored/forgotten

>>"There are many voices within Hamas who accept they're going to have to go for a two-state solution. But I'm not sure they're a majority"

Hamas did signal they would accept a two state solution and peace with Israel some years back. I think in 2005. They were serious (at least the USA certainly seemed to think so) but then Israel started a new campaign of assassinations and bombing and then the more extreme elements gained the upper hand again - as they obviously would. I have little to no doubt that this was the intended outcome of the Israeli government of the time.

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Re: A joke, or some form of Israeli PR right? @h4rm0ny

>>"When rockets rain down upon the heads of their children, how should Israel respond? With a polite rebuke? Maybe some harsh language? An appeal to the UN? Perhaps they should limit themselves to the same level of technology employed by their aggressor? (though if you choose this, bear in mind that the only reason there are not vastly more Israeli dead is that Hamas lack the capability to achieve it, not the ambition) Perhaps they should limit the use of their military arsenal to some other arbitrary level?"

The aim should be to end the rockets. For that you look at why there are rockets. Reasonable enough?

You ask what I think Israel should do? Happy to answer. Withdraw from the Occupied Territories, stop blockading supplies into Palestine, stop bombing power stations, schools, homes, stop carrying out assassinations, invite the UN to negotiate a proper peace and accept it. This would undermine support for attacks on Israel by the common Palestinians who just want peace and to live their lives.

But this would be "defeat" or "giving in to terrorists" and is thus untenable by the Israeli government and its supporters. So unable to retreat, they attack. Against a populace and people who have nowhere to retreat to and thus cannot be the ones to end the conflict. It's simply not possible for the Palestinians to end the conflict when every time they are the ones being occupied, deprived of power, building materials, freedom.

But Israel cannot countenance losing a "pissing contest" - they have declared another faction their enemy and thus cannot let it "win". It is petty emotional-territorial human behaviour at its basest. As a species we should be better than this.

>>"When you allow gunmen to hide amongst your children, in their schools, hospitals, and homes, you must realise that more of them will die when the counter attack comes. How could it be otherwise?"

Israel is bombing and attacking an urban area. Where exactly do you expect to find the people you're attacking other than in the place you're attacking? If there's a "gunman" in a home, there's a good chance that's because he LIVES there. This is what happens when you invade somewhere people live.

Again, you have come to us with the same argument as both times before, re-phrased: "they're asking for it". No Palestinian has the power to force the IDF to bomb schools and powerstations or to bulldoze homes. No Palestinians had the power to cause this

You acknowledge that the Israeli army is vastly more powerful than the Palestinians. Only the most twisted logic could argue that a group so much weaker is forcing a far more powerful and well-funded body to murder it in such numbers. Ergo, the greatest capacity to end the conflict is on Israel's side. It's like watching a huge guy pin a much smaller one to the ground, continually apply painful pressure and just the smaller guy's occasional attempts to push him off as justification for staying on top.

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Re: A joke, or some form of Israeli PR right?

>>"Frankly i think every jew & every palistinean want each other dead, so where will this end?"

Jew =/= Israeli. There are many non-Zionist jewish people just as there are a large number of Zionists non-Jews. Especially amongst American Christians, large numbers of which believe that Israel MUST be Jewish in order that God's plan can be complete. John Ashcroft, former US Attorney General belongs to a Church which preaches this for example. And I'm fairly sure he's not Jewish.

As long as you keep using Jewish and Israeli interchangeably (which is something the Israeli government vigorously encourages), you're undermining your own case against Israel and increasing anti-Semitism by equating Jewish people with the government of Israel (and a particular position of it, in fact).

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Re: A joke, or some form of Israeli PR right? @h4rm0ny

>>"h4rm0ny, you may be an engineer but historian you are not"

I didn't claim to be a historian, I claimed to be old. (well, hitting middle-age, sadly). What I said was that I had seen those same arguments trotted out decade after decade and the counter arguments to them are long since known to most of us. The whole 'they're asking us to bomb them' line of reasoning is false and always has been. However it is spun, one cannot have hundreds of Palestinian deaths, homes demolished, people displaced, power shut off to schools and hospitals and homes, and a handful of deaths on the Israeli side and present it as Israel defending itself.

>>"Now the down votes will start for the simple reason most people don't like their political shortcomings being exposed."

Again the attempt to pre-emptively dismiss any downvotes by claiming without evidence they're for bogus reasons. You didn't "expose" any shortcomings. You just said I needed to read more, that I was glib, and should look for bias. Basically ad hominem, ad hominem and an implication of bias / statement I'm misled. None of these contain the slightest scrap of argument that would expose anything.

THAT is why you're getting downvotes, just as the previous post wasn't getting downvotes because we are all sixth-form history students.

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Re: A joke, or some form of Israeli PR right?

>>"Awaits deluge of downvotes from the student politicians of the sixth-form common room..."

I like the pre-emptive attempt to dismiss your critics. Middle-aged engineer downvoting you right here.

And if you want sixth-form politics, your own arguments are tired and have been refuted more times than I can remember. They're the standard fallbacks for justifying the killing and displacement of Palestinians, just a variation on the eternal classic - they were asking for it.

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Re: Good for them.

>>"H4rm0ny, as much as I agree with the sentiment of what you state I think that the current state of affairs in Israel is so "complicated" that is is impossible to determine "what is right" or "what is wrong"

I disagree with this. Things are so complicated and messy there that it is impossible to determine which "side" is right or wrong. But that's not quite what I wrote. There are good people and bad people all around. You can say whether an action is right or wrong, or a person good or bad within reasonable parameters. You only get in a mess when you start saying one arbitrarily defined group of people are good or bad. The worst and cheapest trick the Israeli government has ever pulled is the way it endlessly tries to portray itself as speaking for Jewish people and pretend criticism of it is criticism of Jewish people. That's one reason I called out the bravery of these Israelis, because to go against that sort of propaganda, the sort of propaganda that tries to make you out as a traitor to your country or your people if you disagree, takes a special type of courage, an active courage. Not the sort that reacts against an external threat, but the leads you to stand up when you could have just kept quiet. That's where I was coming from with the sides.

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Re: This will end up being ignored/forgotten

>>"Israel has been condemned in 45 UN resolutions but the rest of the world looks the other way: "

"USA" is the single word answer to this. They are and have been the block to any action for a long time.

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Don't forget they're doing "sacred" work. Religion and armed forces always go so well together.

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