60 posts • joined Friday 18th July 2008 09:41 GMT
Re: Almost perfect
>I don't like Elop, I won't buy a single Nokia phone while they employ the guy.
I feel the exact same and wonder how much business they miss just because of that guy (apart from a possible dislike of MS-products).
Re: ...so long, farewell: hosting & Data Protection
>Apart from that, WTO regulations already prohibit import tariffs etc.
This is just not true. There are lots of import duties in effect, and the WTO doesn't really prohibit them, just mitigates. Or in WTO speak: There is no legally binding agreement that sets out the targets for tariff reductions.
>(politicians say that) leaving the EU means cutting trade etc.
Be that as it may, every country that wants to export their goods/services to the EU has to play by the EU rules, rules that only the member states decide upon. Leaving the EU would just mean: leaving the biggest single market in the world, still having to abide by their rules but not being able to influence those rules.
Beginning of the End
The things that led up to the N97 disaster were the beginning of the end afaic. They're just winding up now.
Re: Caveat Emptor
Care to share a link that points to those 'EU directives for spying on its citizens', or is it just your opinion?
Bribe what's bribe?
But then again. 85% for this PoC? The only thing that makes stand out from the rest of the WP7 crowd (such as it is) is the querty keyboard, which, like the rest of this device is mediocre at best. Either was an exchange of money, or there should have been one.
So it's reasonable to remove apps that simply takes money from gullible souls. That doesn't explain why Apple hasn't removed 99.99% of all apps.
You can find the real reason in the NYT btw:
Apps must comply with all local laws and may not put an individual or group in harm’s way
It is questionable whether this app doesn't comply with local laws, there aren't any formal accusations yet, and Apple should refrain from a value judgement about 'putting an individual or group in harm's way'.
This is nothing but big business protecting big business with the Merikan government as waterboy, in other words: muzzling.
And no, I don't think disclosing these cables was a very good idea, by the way, but we have legal systems in place for what Apple is doing here.
The joke will be on Google and their silly astroturfers, there's no doubt about it
If you want to play on the biggest single market in the world, you have to play by their book. The book gives the commission power of the shock and awe kind, just to enable them to deal with Google and their do no evil ilk.
Google will be fined into oblivion if it doesn't do what the commission orders them to and then it still has to comply, and all the best lawyers their monopolistic money can buy won't change that.
Oh, and don't forget: there may still be some anti dumping complaints in the pipeline.
Europe is not Merika. Live with it.
To see all the Andrones coming out of the woods (perhaps someone could explain that you can't reach all places with a VW Polo that you can reach with a VW Touareg, because I really start to miss the automotive analogy that made the Apple fans so infamous).
Fast forward 20 years and the geeks in their proverbial pub will be talking about this once very promising Android system that became a badly fractured nightmare.
Angry Birds plays very well on my S^3 system. Nice game, I must say!
But I wouldn't bet on it, not as far as Nokia's concerned. Other than popular believe and the journalistic narrative has it, their smartphone market share is up. iPhone market share has been going down for several Qs now http://tiny.cc/7gox7 .
So it's not the waiting for the iPhone 4 either.
You are right
I had a look at the original article. It mentions these figures but only as total market share figures, i.e. from all phones the market share of smart phones has grown from 55% to 66.7% and is likely to become 73.5% of the contract market. Smart phone is broadly defined as phone with an advanced OS and an Advanced OS is defined as all Operating Systems which are able to run independent compatible applications (to keep RIM on board, no doubt).
Not that it would stop a journo hack from selling any article, but there aren't actually no figures for Apple mentioned.
Meego is Maemo 6 and vice versa. So yes it will be very open source, and yes you can compile your own cookies on it/for it.
Maemo 5 can already run qt stuff, Maemo 6 will be able to run GTK thingies.
It must be that special reality distortion called the blogosphere or whatever, but outside of the internet, in the real world Nokia, is the company that managed to become the world's largest supplier of touch screen smartphones in a couple of months' time, with a growth of 4700%. But the blogosphere keeps underestimating them. Nokia and Intel have enough clout to shake the markets.
Meego will probably be a success.
I can see why the Finns want to steer clear of Android. It's pretty meh to begin with, even if you want to be borked by the add brokers and their NSA cloak and dagger friends. And Google is not to be trusted as a business partner.
Evil Steve, the f*ckin' prince of Merikan post modern imperialistic darkness.
I looked it up in the dictionary. Legitimate is also rightful: legitimate sovereign, so it's more than just 'legal'. The Iranian people hasn't just 'chosen' its government, it kicked out the Old Guard, and replaced it with a revolutionary one. How much more 'legitimate' do you want it to be?
And yes, the Iranian people is responsible for the consequences, not Nokia/Siemens. That was actually my point.
Perhaps this is the moment...
to point out that the Iranians have, by ousting the Shah, chosen to be ruled by these clowns. It's their legitimate government, even if the Western powers don't like it.
You basically describe a kind of Israeli system (although it's not nearly as brutal) which works very fine for them. I wouldn't mind if they introduced this worldwide and it's really worth to think it over.
Human rights is, always have been and should be, a multilateral relationship. Perhaps it's time that our Muslim friends are going to recognise that fact. And yes I do see that generalisations are bad, in principle.
That's short term. That's the Google way of doing handset business.
In the long run it would probably have been a disaster for Nokia, the company that sells more smart phones than its two nearest competitors combined. For a start they would have lost face right now (just like Motorola and Samsung did). And apart from that they have come a long way with Maemo. Giving up that position would only strengthen Google, a 'partner' that has now proven to be very unreliable.
It won't be forgotten, I am sure.
Think how Nokia would have felt...
If they would have chosen to develop some Android devices, and side track Maemo for it. Perhaps the Finns understood what they are dealing with, when it comes to Google.
Evil S. the posterboy for Merikan post empire imperialism.
I am so glad
That finally Google showed its real face and starts selling its Nexus. Now that the fanbois and the google goons both have an American enemy to battle, they will start leaving the rest of the world in peace.
"..it is possible that certain components of the Company’s products and business methods may unknowingly infringe the patents or other intellectual property rights of third parties."
The silly buggers seem to be just trying to escape the 'knowingly' part.
Evull Steve because he'd claim not tobe, not knowingly.
This will probably...
end up in exchange of patents. Apple the real technical patents. Nokia the 'multi touch patent'. Can't wait for a multi touch enabled Maemo device.
Evil Steve's getting some of his own medicine for a change.
It's been a truism—
It would be nice to look back in, say, 12 years only to find out how wrong the 2009 truisms have been. Especially those involving IT.
Evil Steve, because truism has it that he won't be leading Apple in 2021...
OE is interested in seeing less formal integration across Europe, and a return to more issues being resolved at the national level.
Please guys, don't publish all looney so called investigations from all kinds of silly so called think tanks cum conspiracy theory-mongers that raise their stupid heads.
'Europe' guarantees and protects more civil liberties than most of its member states ever would.
If anti poaching agreements (Apple/Google) are bad, then poaching must be bad. So then Apple must be the badass here, and Microsoft the knight in shiny armour.
/Evul Steve, because he's the flippen PoD.
The iPhone has been customised to the needs of the operators, surely?
"It would be absolutely incorrect to assume that we will not offer operators the ability to tailor future Maemo devices to suit their needs."
The iPhone certainly has been suited to the needs of the operators without 'us' even knowing it. So let's just wait and see if the 'customisation' will really affect the UI and the user experience of 'future' devices.
The question is...
What would happen if there were massive riots in the USA? Would they be asked to do some 'prolonged maintenance' in order to 'fight terrorism'?
Good thing Obama seems to distance himself from it.
Horned Steve for obvious reasons.
Worked fine last time I had a peek. I could select different handsets and accordingly get the software. After selecting what I wanted I received an sms and downloaded my selection. It was that simple, actually.
Would like them to offer more stuff, but that's all.
Used to be a bloke
Actually she was a woman from the day she was born (in the wrong body).
Horned Jobs just because.
Every idiot can spend money, but they should start making money anytime soon for a change. Real money not the phoney stuff the FED is printing at the moment. Because our Chinese friends aren't going to give the mericuns a free ride for ever.
Horned Jobs for obvious reasons.
They just waited for the right moment
As Tom Tom seems to be in serious financial trouble they'll be willing enough to enter a settlement.
There goes the last bit of sympathy I used to have for the Redmond behemoth.
Pissed away what?
No mobile phone maker is going to survive without value added services. It's Apple’s trick, it's Blackberry’s trick and it's going to be Nokia's trick. The development of those services is just product development. I would hardly call that pissing away money. They maybe backing the wrong horse here, but we just don't know yet. Just like no one knows how much money they actually spent on the development of these services.
It won't be billions.
I am one of the two users
I had no problem whatsoever with Ovi I use it every day, and it just worked. Must be the other guy who had problems with it then.
I don't think they're planning to have you pay for synchronising your data anytime soon.
Most of their software is actually very good and their new e-mail client is splendid.
@catch a finance sector worker
Everyone, especially our Chinese friends, could have known that our American friends were living way beyond their means. But yet we were happy to let them buy on tick (and laughing behind their backs) like there was no tomorrow.
Tomorrow is here now, and we all are all going to feel it, not just the finance sector.
Horned Jobs, for obvious reasons.